Xbox 360 Elite sales up by 43 per cent

By Robert Purchese Published 2 September, 2009

Price cut provides a bank holiday boost.

Sales of the Xbox 360 Elite rose 43 per cent during the bank holiday weekend in the UK.

Microsoft cut the price of the upper-tier bundle to £199.99 (a saving of £50) last Friday, ahead of the PS3 Slim launch today - a coincidental occurrence, MS assured us.

"Sales of Xbox 360 are up 43 per cent," data detective GfK Chart-Track told GamesIndustry.biz. "Essentially, looking at the price, obviously it's the Elite that's done the business with those sales."

Gfk Chart-Track noted this as a "good start" for Microsoft ahead of the upcoming console battle. "It's quite a big deal for Sony next week," added the spokesperson.

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  • b00n #1 2 years ago

    I imagine the PS3 will be up a lot more as it's a bigger price cut and a new model, and has had more PR in general.

  • kendoji #2 2 years ago

    Yes, I'd think so too. Somewhat surprising numbers, considering the Xbox was already great value in the UK - at least compared to the PS3.

  • Edwin #3 2 years ago

    i still think with the 360"s superior software library and online and if you only want to play games the elite is the way to go.

    ha ha ha ha........ you don't half spout some shit, ever heard 'an empty vessel makes the most noise'

  • Razz #4 2 years ago

    Interesting I wonder if all those people that bought elites over the bank holiday will have enough cash left over to justify getting a ps3 slim? If not it's a master stroke for Microsoft. But it's not just cash, its justifying buying 2 new consoles within a month.

    Come to think of it, I wonder how many of those sales were existing xbox owners upgrading to an elite after the price cut.

  • onyxbox #5 2 years ago

    So what does up 43% actually equate to?

    (last week the "industry" was reporting a huge decline in sales)

  • rotmm #6 2 years ago

    There were some good deals at retail too. A couple that I noticed at being particularly attractive were in Currys (Elite, Extra Controller, 2 games for £199) and Tesco (Elite, Fight Night 4 and Tiger Woods 10 for £199).

    I'm sure there were others out there too.

  • Xerx3s #7 2 years ago

    That's what I've been thinking as well. MS's wasn't so much to get more sales imo as it was to make sure that people wouldn't be swayed to buy the slim. After all, if you've already spend a lot of money on one console, there is a slim (pun) chance that you will spend money on another so soon.

  • Retroid #8 2 years ago

    Well, the Elite price cuts where being reported weeks ago so it's not a last minute decision.

    Are those sales for just the Elite model itself? Because that'd make sense, I'd imagine the Pro still taking the lion's share until they sell out (if they haven't already).

  • rotmm #9 2 years ago

    donnie,

    Please take some time away from posting.

    Thanks.

  • cyacomini #10 2 years ago

    a 43% increase in sales of the Elite - I think there needs to be some distinction between Elite and Pro console sales.

    It's my view that Elite sales only ever accounted for a small percentage of total console sales so even a 43% increase in sales of the Elite version could still be small fry.

  • jjolley #11 2 years ago

    I hope folks don't take this the wrong way at EG, but there is a pattern here. It seems that the 360 is favoured more, especially with regards to news articles about the industry. I don't personally think that the 360 is worth it for my needs these days, the crap hardware put me off after our 6th. PEople can defend it all they want, but how come we never get any sony praise at all? It's not a bad system really for what you get. Basically it comes down to the fact that EG is biased entirely towards the 360 and this is terrible journalisim on any level. Should they rename the site to 360fanboys.net then?

  • Beek4257 #12 2 years ago

    @Cyacomini
    I think the first sentence of this article is a misinterpretation by EG/GI:
    Chart-Track states: "Sales of Xbox 360 are up 43 per cent,".

    Still what this amounts to? IF this is a week on week sales-increase - I'm guessing it is based on the article - that would be hardly suprising. Who's going to buy an Eilte the week before an announced price-drop anyway, right?

    Still buying one though. Shame about the loss of the HDMI cable ...

  • sfp_noodle #13 2 years ago

    beat me to it beek! i was jus about to say the same thing. sales are up 43% from what exactly? console sales have been poor in general really, so the rise is hardly suprising. having said tht, i work in toys r us where we sell the elites for a good price of £184.99. nobody over the weekend bought a single one whereas in comparision, we sold 14 ps3's in a day yesterday (priced at £229.99). the slim wasnt officially released until yestersay, so i dnt think chart track will count all the ones shipped early from online retailers am i right? having said tht, it will be a very interesting xmas battle this year between 'the big two after nintendo' :p
    Edited by 1 at 02/09/09 @ 11:01

  • Rodney #14 2 years ago

    Jjolley

    there might be a bias in favour of xbox in the comments but I dont think there is a Eurogamer editorial bias at all. If the fact of the matter is that one system is better than the other then this reality will be reflected in Eurogamers articles/news items.

    I think the PS3 represents far better value compared to the new Elite price and I am a bit of a 360 fanboy
    Edited by 1 at 02/09/09 @ 11:11

  • spookyzombie #15 2 years ago

    I'd imagine that the now ridiculously priced Arcade didn't do as well. The PS3 Slim sold like crazy at our store yesterday. So much so that we're nearly out of stock already.

  • GamerG #16 2 years ago

    Well done Eurogamer for messing up the article, 360 sales wer up 46% not elite sales!

    Still most of that was probably because of the bank holiday weekend!

  • paulf #17 2 years ago

    dont you just love the way statistics can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say

  • sfp_noodle #18 2 years ago

    sales were up sure, but they were only really up because of the elite. and since the arcade costs around £30 less than the elite, it kinda makes most peoples mind up for them ;) the arcade RRP hasnt hit retailers just yet, but with the eliterepresenting better value over the arcade for a little bit extra money, only a fool wud go out and by an arcade console now

  • ps3owner #19 2 years ago

    I had a wonder around HMV on Sunday and I have to say there was a big crowd around the PS3 Slim, myself included. Not going get one since I prefer the fat version ;).

    It could be just curiosity though, maybe nobody is going to buy any of the slim's? also went to the Sony store, had a look at the HD-LCD SONY KDL-52Z5500... hmmmm nice.

  • MiniAmin #20 2 years ago

    Once PS3 hits 200 this'll get real interesting. PS3 has the better Xmas line up and I may buy one just for Uncharted 2. However an Elite at 199 is also a bargain. Next year I reckon Natal will be huge for Microsoft, especially if the Elite is still 200 by then.

    I want to upgrade to an Elite. Does anyone know how I can transfer all the content on my 60GB 360 Hard-drive to an Elite?

    Any help/information would be appreciated :)
    Edited by 1 at 02/09/09 @ 11:31

  • LilithsCurves #21 2 years ago

    "Sales of the Xbox 360 Elite rose 43 percent during the bank holiday weekend in the UK." So, this is a +43% in comparison to the week before? If that's the case, well not really a surprise since everyone who wanted to buy one was holding off until the everywhere announced price cut was in effect.
    PEOPLE ARE BUYING XBOX 360 +43% !!! That is a good motivation for potential customers, only natural to trust what so many deem good. So every company likes such news. Edit: I did look up the sales numbers on vgchartz and there is no significant down on xbox 360 hardware sales up to 22 august - so the +43% should be a solid +43%.
    Edited by 2 at 02/09/09 @ 17:49

  • sfp_noodle #22 2 years ago

    @ miniamin
    if u buy a brand new elite, go to xbox.com and u can download a form for a data transfer cable. all u have to do is enter the serial numbers of ur old pro model and the serial number of ur new elite. send tht form off and within a week ull get a free data transfer cable. once uve copied the data over, sell ur transfer cable online for a nice £20 :p

  • MiniAmin #23 2 years ago

    @ Sfp noodle

    I didn't know about that! Thanks :)

  • AphoticCosmos #24 2 years ago

    Interesting, it's nice to see some good figures in these economic troubles.

  • muscleblade #25 2 years ago

    "If the fact of the matter is that one system is better than the other then this reality will be reflected in Eurogamers articles/news items. "

    Exactly! If the PS4 turns out to be better than the next gen xbox it will be the other way around next gen. And i will own a PS4 if that should be the case.

  • dither #26 2 years ago

    MiniAmin, I've heard the data transfer cables are only for use with 20gb drives to the 120. 60gb ones do not work. Dunno if it's true.

  • KDR_11k #27 2 years ago

    So what's the change to the total 360 numbers? I expect quite a few of those Elite sales to be at the expense of the Pro version

  • BadBoyBonner #28 2 years ago

    Hmm not so sure about £200 being the sweet-spot some think it is.

    For me the sweet-spot will be the 360 Arcade at £99.99 - an I expect it could be that this Xmas.

    Putting the price up and then removing value is normally an indicator that any retail product is about to have it's price reduced to effectively double the reduction. Obviously those in the know will feel like the masses are being hoodwinked - but the press will gobble up the "inflated" price reduction and no doubt feature it heavily in the run up to Christmas - generating free publicity/PR.

  • sneetch #29 2 years ago

    @KDR_11k
    So what's the change to the total 360 numbers? I expect quite a few of those Elite sales to be at the expense of the Pro version

    A good question. It's a bit confusing, the article claims that the Elite sales are up 43% but the quote states that 360 sales are up 43% but that they think it's due to the Elite price drop more than anything else (seeing as how the Pro is really now the Elite I can see how that is the case).

    "Sales of Xbox 360 are up 43 per cent," a representative for GfK Chart-Track told GamesIndustry.biz. "Essentially, looking at the price, obviously it's the Elite that's done the business with those sales."

  • patchbox360 #30 2 years ago

    no blueray

  • SwedBear #31 2 years ago

    Come on EG. In the actual article you say it is the combined 360 sales that are up 43%, not just the Elite so why haven't you changed the title for the news item? If most of those sales were the Elite I would expect the % increase for the Elite to be much higher than 43%.

  • itsfuzzy #32 2 years ago

    Regardless of where your loyalty lies,you have to admit the 360 elite is a cracking offer at that price.

  • Collymilad #33 2 years ago

    "i still think with the 360"s superior software library and online and if you only want to play games the elite is the way to go.

    ha ha ha ha........ you don't half spout some shit, ever heard 'an empty vessel makes the most noise'"

    Learn how to properly use phrases before you try and look clever, eh?

    Xbox still pisses all over the PS3 gamewise.

  • EvilBob_leeds #34 2 years ago

    Isn't this appearing on the list of PS3 filtered articles kind of inviting a flame war?

  • GreyBeard #35 2 years ago

    @Evilbob

    And that surprises you?

  • patch #36 2 years ago

    Wasn't there a 40% sales increase after the last price cut? This story is fairly meaningless without figures. It could mean they sold an extra 43 or 43,000. Can we not do any digging? Surely someone out there subscribes to the GfK Chart Track email? I also note that sales of the PS3 dropped by 20% last week ahead of the slim release / price cut. And that's with lots of places selling the fat ps3 for around £250.

  • makeamazing #37 2 years ago

    I think i read that 43% was about 5000 extra Xboxs sold... this was on one of the other gaming sites (cant remember which one).

  • jjolley #38 2 years ago

    It's interesting how my post got marked down for being factually accurate. EG is biased towards one console. End of. To be honest, the price is good for the 360, but factor in the fact that many will be returned because the hardware is shite - oops many here won't as the RROD doesn't make a difference. How the hell is it acceptable to go through 6 or 7 of these shit boxes anyway and not think that there's a problem? Imagine if it was a car that constantly goes out of control and you kill innosant kids when driving. They'd soon recall them. Even the three year guaranty is a complete joke, many of the units that get sent back are broken after a week or so. Really, the marketing figures here are just to please the Xbox fanboys, bet if Sony had an increase nobody would comment. It's pathetic.

  • Xerx3s #39 2 years ago

    "PS3 has the better Xmas line up"

    I keep hearing that a lot but looking at the PS3 EG release list, all I can come up with - as pure exclusives - is Uncharted 2 and GT5 (maybe this year but knowing PD...). While not bad, it's not exactly the "THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE PS3!!!1!" home run winner kind of thing. Am I missing something here? Is that list not complete?

    Not that the other platforms are particularly better mind. ¬_¬

  • Xerx3s #40 2 years ago

    "Imagine if it was a car that constantly goes out of control and you kill innosant kids when driving."

    Actually, I need to send my car to the repairs every year because something keeps breaking down every now and then. As for the rest of your post, people don't mark you down for telling the truth. There will be nobody here that claims that the rrod doesn't occur. People mark you down for the way you tell it.

  • wez_316 #41 2 years ago

    This is such a hilarious article. When you consider that there is no longer a premium on the shelves and that was the most popular model anyway... the Elite's sales going up by 43% in likelihood means that 360 sales on a whole are less than last week. The Elite was previously at such a stupidly high price compared to the other models that it shouldn't have really been a viable option for anybody buying a 360 unless they wish to just throw money down the tube.

    Also, this article is conflicting. It states that Elite sales are up by 43% and that 360 sales are up by 43%. For this to be true then the Arcade model would have had to have sold as many units as the Pro and Arcade did last week combined. Seeing as the Arcade has had a price increase by £30 I find this extremely hard to believe. If 360 sales in general are up by 43% then that's worth commenting on, but if it is just the Elite sales as EG states then the price cut meant nothing for 360 sales.
    Edited by 1 at 02/09/09 @ 13:19

  • laudy #42 2 years ago

    @ jjolley

    All you will receive for your latest comment is more negative marks, along with someone denouncing you as some sort of fanboy. The question is, do you care about Elite sales being up 43%? I know I don't.

    I doubt that you're the only one who sees a pattern, oh, and you may well be pulled up for the RROD reference.

    hmmm... -5 after 5 minutes...what did i tell you?

    Brace yourself!!
    Edited by 1 at 02/09/09 @ 13:06

  • muscleblade #43 2 years ago

    @jjolley

    You forgot to read this article.

    [link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digital foundry-system-failure-article
    ]http://ww w.eurogamer.net/articles/digita...[/link]

    I think you can lay the PS3 fanboy RROD issue to rest know. Seems like the only people having real problems with RROD is the people that only owns a PS3. How ironic.

  • Bazfrag #44 2 years ago

    "If the fact of the matter is that one system is better than the other then this reality will be reflected in Eurogamers articles/news items."

    Its not fact. Its subjective.

    "Xbox still pisses all over the PS3 gamewise."

    Ditto. Personal taste etc.

    It applies the other way, too.
    Edited by 1 at 02/09/09 @ 13:09

  • IneptPercy #45 2 years ago

    You have to consider this amazing PS3 Xmas line up will mean nothing to a lot of buyers who are finally upgrading from the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube/Wii. To them the lineup is all the games to date, much like a lot of people bought the PS2 over the Xbox due to the games.

    It really comes down to what you want, as much as the PS3 does offer better value due to blu-ray, how many people are bothered about blu-ray? how many people even own HDTV's? yes many of us on here do but we don't represent a true cross section of the population do we.

  • GamerG #46 2 years ago

    typical PS fanboys trying to turn every discussion into something about the PS3!!!

    Complex much??

  • laudy #47 2 years ago

    Since this item turned up on the PS3 filtered news articles, what did you expect?

    If these "ps fanboys" actively went looking for this piece, you may well have a case...

  • EvilBob_leeds #48 2 years ago

    @muscleblade

    You forgot to understand the article. There are currently 5.8 million PS3s out of warranty in Europe as opposed to 1.3 million XBoxes.

    The XBoxes still outnumbered the PS3s at this repair shop (which you would obviously only use if you console was out of warranty) by 60% to 40%.

    Which means, roughly speaking, that at that repair shop the average XBox was 6 times more likely to break down than the PS3.

    There are lots of good things about the XBox. Build quality (either considered as how likely the Xbox is to break down VS other consoles, or as a percentage of the total number of XBoxes sold) isn't one of them. Stop being a fanboy.

    EDIT: Apologies, I know its off topic, and fair play to MS.
    Edited by 1 at 02/09/09 @ 13:41

  • IneptPercy #49 2 years ago

    "which you would obviously only use if you console was out of warranty"

    Out of 5 360's I know have been fixed 2 where done away from microsoft despite the warrenty, they believe they 'would get it done properly'

    Many where in repair shops within the first 3 years too which shows some people don't trust the system (no idea why).

    As gamers we should all be happy, the 360 has put an end to Sony's monoply and introduced good competition. If the 360 was later or not as good then we would still have to pay £400 for the PS3.

    The current situation is perfect, neither console has a massive lead and probably never will have, but they are close enough for both to have full support. As gamers we all win whatever choise you make.

  • jmg123 #50 2 years ago

    Must be a slow news day. This is not news (and won't be news next week when they report the same increase in figures for the ps3)

  • Toadie48 #51 2 years ago

    Instead of lowering the price every minute, try making an Xbox 360 that is as reliable as a Super NES.

    My Super NES and N64 still work just fine, despite the fact that when I was little every time I lost at a game I used to pick up the console still plugged in and throw it, then chuck the games out the window.

  • jjolley #52 2 years ago

    At evilfoxhound:
    I agree that this is good for MS. contrary to what people here might think of my previous posts, I honestly believe that the 360 is a good machine in principle, hardware is a complete waste of time though. Also, MS figures are way off generally, because it's hard to work out which machines are new ones sold compared to ones replaced.seems like many don't appreciate reality.

  • sneetch #53 2 years ago

    @jjolley
    It's interesting how my post got marked down for being factually accurate. EG is biased towards one console. End of.

    Claiming something is a fact is not the same as it actually being a fact. I know this confuses some people but even saying "Everyone knows", "Fact" or "End of" doesn't make it into a fact.

    "People are made of paste and bicycles. Fact."
    "Everyone knows that horses are actually a type of cat. End of."

  • sneetch #54 2 years ago

    @Toadie48
    Instead of lowering the price every minute, try making an Xbox 360 that is as reliable as a Super NES.

    My Super NES and N64 still work just fine, despite the fact that when I was little every time I lost at a game I used to pick up the console still plugged in and throw it, then chuck the games out the window.

    In fairness though, the SNES and N64 (mine still work fine too) have zero moving parts and have circuitry that's about 1 km wide (ok, slight exaggeration :) ) those old consoles are like bricks and not as delicate as a 360 or PS3.

    That's not to try to excuse or defend the build quality (which has been poor, dunno how it is now) but I reckon in 20 years time I'll be showing the SNES to my kids (and I reckon it'd be a bit like "this is my SNES and this is the spear I used to hunt dinosaurs with" ;) ) and both my 360 and PS3 will have kersploded.

  • GamerG #55 2 years ago

    @jjolley

    MS's figures are not hard to figure out they always state GFK/charttrack or some other retail trackers and those figures only include new unit sales not replacements or repairs!

    Infact its Sony who's figures are difficult to track as they state "our own internal figures" and dont even specify exactly market they are talking about..
    Edited by 1 at 02/09/09 @ 16:48

  • jjolley #56 2 years ago

    Interesting. I hardly see how you can have a huge increase like this anyway. Games are games. If people want a console, you buy whenever.

  • Xerx3s #57 2 years ago

    "Good for MS. But I can't wait to see the PS3 numbers. "

    Just curious. Why? Will it make your life experience better when you have seen those numbers?

  • malexous #58 2 years ago

    "I'll bold this for the ADD crowd...

    360 sales overall were up by 43 percent for the bank holiday weekend and it was comented that it was most likely due to the Elite's price drop"

    Please don't be offensive.

    Also, that has already been pointed out by at least two other people. Did you read the comments?

  • SpaceMonkey77 #59 2 years ago

    Well, I know if I had the money, I'd buy a second 360 if i could. Fairplay to those that bag an Elite, at that magic £200 price tag.

    Build quality of consoles has been a problem as they've become more advanced, but its true that Nintendo never suffer from this. I still have a SNES that works well, along with my other Nintendo consoles.

    Despite the RRoD, I think MS recovered from it spectacularly, and offer a gamers a fair deal for free. While many people may have been through more than one 360, they should be checking the serial numbers/SKUs when they buy a 360. Only through this will you know if you are getting something that is likely to fail or not.

    I'm lucky, I have a Falcon 360, which I've had for four years without any problems. When any of you go to buy one, ask to see the box and check the SKU number. Look online and you'll find guides to help you with this selection, to make sure you don't get a timebomb 360.

    Don't feel too bad, Sony fans. Its nice to have some balance in the industry. Doesn't matter what you play, just that you bother buying and playing at all.

  • FrankCannon #60 2 years ago

    All hail the free market economy! I'd love to see a steam powered British console come onto the market. Something along the lines of the Wii only using a Sinclair Spectrum with a Quickshot 2 joystick and Daley Thompsons' Decathlon. Talk about giving the kids exercise whilst playing video games, this would give your average teenager wrists as big as George Formans and forearms that would make Olive Oil give you a double take. I didn't become the man I am today by playing your namby-pamby wireless controllered, online sh%t@. No,my gnarly arthritic digits were forged in the the primeval melting pot of Sir Clive Sinclairs evil videogaming empire, I laugh at the pathetic wrists of you people that jump around your living rooms whilst waving their Wii in the air.
    Edited by 1 at 03/09/09 @ 00:05

  • Xerx3s #61 2 years ago

    "I have shares in Sony. "

    Fair enough. So do I. Looking back, I should have invested in Nintendo. Fuck me, if people would have told me that the industry would be like this today, I would have declared them bonkers.

  • SleepyMagpie #62 2 years ago

    Seriously considering getting a 360 Elite at this point (in addition to my pro), as are several of my buddies. The 360, now that it's sickly early years are over, is turning into one hell of a gamers' console. And by the look of things, will continue to be supported and tweaked for several years.

    The PS3 on the other hand, while well made, and a competent media platform, is not a great gaming console by any definition, and any Sony fanboys telling themselves that have joined the church of praystation and do not want to own up to the facts.

    The facts are that more games are coming out for the 360, multiplatform games generally play and look better on the 360, and Live! is a MUCH BETTER multiplayer hub than PSN will be anytime soon. The 360 is also cheaper, and the RRoD issue is resolved, in that yes, 360's still break down, but it's not a pandemic anymore.

    Get over it Sonyboys, this generation Sony doesn't have a clue. And this coming from a guy who owns both machines. And loves Valkyria Chronicles, the little drop of gaming excellence on the PS3, the exception to the rule!

  • Rodney #63 2 years ago

    "If the fact of the matter is that one system is better than the other then this reality will be reflected in Eurogamers articles/news items."

    Bazfrag " Its not fact. Its subjective"

    Of course one system can objectively be better than another. The 360 is objectively less reliable. The PS3 has objectively been more expensive while offering only roughly similar performance. Sony has made a quite a few fuck ups this gen. Microsoft hasnt made so many, just one big one (RROD). I would expect the news/articles to reflect this.

    "Xbox still pisses all over the PS3 gamewise."

    Bazfrog "Ditto. Personal taste etc"

    I agree more with this. The most you could say is that the 360, up until recently, had a more popular and critically aclaimed library, now with Wipe HD, Uncharted 1&2, Little Big, MGS, its pretty close and down to personal preference. I generally prefer the 360 library but only because of Forza and Halo so I wouldnt claim it has a better library as a matter of fact.

    Personally, if I was to enter the HD console market today I'd probably go with the PS3. I think the PS3 now with blueray, reliability, media functionality, free online, good library of games represents far better value than the 360 elite. It also has Wipeout HD which I want really badly.




    Edited by 3 at 03/09/09 @ 03:19

  • davisorle #64 2 years ago

    @jjolley "Xbox fanboys, bet if Sony had an increase nobody would comment. It's pathetic"

    Are you SERIOUSLY bitching cause you consider this article unfair to the PS3 cause according to you ppl wouldnt be making as many comments? Not only would be more cause due to the fact there ARE xbox fanboys but specially the SONY fanboys like you are so pathetic like you stated, that you first would be there to make sure that it topped this article in comments. Just lik when you have to look your f**king face in the mirror when you do your hair or makeup or wtf you are i dont give a f**k, honestly, you should also read your own comments before you post them. You are with one foot in the rediculous side and the other on the pathetic with just one comment of yours i read o.O

    Article related: The only thing proved with the +43% sales is that there were just ppl that had already planned on getting a 360 and they just did now with the pricedrop. Why? Cause ppl were more aware of the PS3Slim and pricedrop than the Elite's, since its the news of the month or whatever. So still the results of this month or next 4 weeks, is what will be interesting to see as in sale boosts etc. Ofc I guess the PS3 sales boost will be way bigger than 43% for the first week. If not I'd consider Sony screwed since this is like the biggest news/step for them in this gen. Was BDs at first and now the Slim. Wand wont matter since its no news. Just a more accurate Wiimote I guess if proved even that ingame.

    NOW will be the first time to admit that PS3 is a good value as hardware in total. BUT for someone that has no console at all and doesn't need a BD still the 360 has better gaming value. Specially since Im not a racing fan and Uncharted will be the only other exclusive for Sony till the end of the year :S ( which looks cool btw ).

  • Calgon #65 2 years ago

    EvilBob_leeds you also forgot to understand, that 360 is a year older which is relevant to what the article suggests in itself(i.e. over time the PS3 is more and more likely to fail due to wear and tear) and the fact that MS' warranty is 3 years.... meaning the vast majority of those console repaired by them are the first build which we know is a large leap from Jasper in terms of reliability.

  • EvilBob_leeds #66 2 years ago

    It suggested that both have the capacity to fail over time due to the tremendous amount of heat generated by their chipsets, and that the damage caused by can be cumilative. We'll have to see a 600% increase in failing PS3s over the next year to suggest that the problem of inadequate heat dissapation is as bad as the XBoxes though.

    Yes the average Xbox out of warranty will have been bought longer ago than the average PS3 out of warranty, but answer this - given that the failure rate since Jasper / Falcon hardware is still at 50 odd percent, how many of those year one XBoxes are there out there that haven't had their original soldering/circuitry replaced, or that haven't just been completely replaced by MS at some stage? It's pretty daft to assume that many of those 4 year old XBoxes have 4 year old innards.
    Edited by 1 at 03/09/09 @ 13:36

  • Calgon #67 2 years ago

    how many of those year one XBoxes are there out there that haven't had their original circuitry replaced, or that haven't just been completely replaced by MS at some stage?

    @EvilBob_leeds

    We know the story with refurbs, the point is the vast majority of them aren't falcons let alone jaspers, it's daft to ignore that ;).

    As for the rest, theres an article linked to in the comments to that article from a company that offers extended warranties, theres a nice graph which shows a steep decline(theres also other data which sugggests with the RROD in check, the 360 will be at PS3 levels for reliability) even at a time when there was a mix of falcon and jaspers at retail(i.e. even when jasper was introduced on that timeline a big chunk of falcons were still in the retail channels), added to the fact that people like pyschotext have kept tallies on some of the most populated gaming sites... granted there's no way for us to know 100% what the figures are but the signs are pretty encouraging.

    It may be you werent talking about the current 360s at all, in which case your statement could have been a little clearer.

  • cyber_nicco #68 2 years ago

    I bought a PS3 slim yesterday. I'm still a card-carrying Xbot, but I was deciding on a second console for the bedroom and was vascillating back and forth between the two.

    I finally decided that I would buy one of the new Natal Xboxes next year, and play some PS3 exlusives and Blu-Rays this year...

    I feel kinda' guilty, however. Also, I have explained to my wife so many times why I like the 360 so much more that she now thinks I'm out of my mind... :)

    /edit: removed unnecessary "now" from last sentence"
    Edited by 1 at 03/09/09 @ 21:08

  • Rens11 #69 2 years ago

    I bought a PS3 slim yesterday. I'm still a card-carrying Xbot, but I was deciding on a second console for the bedroom and was vascillating back and forth between the two.

    I finally decided that I would buy one of the new Natal Xboxes next year, and play some PS3 exlusives and Blu-Rays this year...

    I feel kinda' guilty, however. Also, I have explained to my wife so many times now why I like the 360 so much more that she now thinks I'm out of my mind... :)



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