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Editor's blog: How the Top 50 works Comments by Tom Bramwell

16 December, 2008

Assuming it actually does, obviously.

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Widge
16/12/08 @ 10:50
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I'm preemptively OUTRAGED.
Stu
16/12/08 @ 11:07
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Can we have an article on how the Daily Mail's games journalism works, please?
Carlo
16/12/08 @ 11:26
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Bloglol
ParanoidZombie
16/12/08 @ 11:37
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I hate this top 50 thing, last year I was very outraged that virtua fighter 5 didn't make the final list (in both categories, readers + staff), and in 2008 I'm gonna be very pissed if Ninja Gaiden 2 is ignored. I apologize in advance for all the nasty things i'm gonna say in the comments section if that happens.
mazzl
16/12/08 @ 12:13
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i can think of some thing i would like to know:
how are articles edited, how much freedom does a writer have to publish their opinion.
do you have a casual friday and bar in the building
how's the coffee?
where are the EG TV shows? lately it's just specials.

i like the top 50 articles, i wouldn't have player psychonauts if it wasn't for Eg and it's readers!

WillyWanka
16/12/08 @ 12:32
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wall of text
Carrybagma
16/12/08 @ 12:45
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Top ten tips for top tens:

1. As any fule kno
2. XBOXES and PLAEYSTATIONS :oD
3. It's completely wrong and stupid every time you do it.
4. Publish your secret formula, so we can say it's completely wrong and stupid.
5. You're evil and wrong. At the same time. In the same sentence.
6. Actually, I have nothing constructive to write.
7. Errr.
8. And
9. that's
10. it.
Carrybagma
16/12/08 @ 12:51
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Oh! How about FORCING your peeps to write a bog reviewing their year - however brief? That way, we'll get to know more about them, and hopefully condemn them (and this site) forever for either owning XBOXEN or PLAYESTATIEN.
Carrybagma
16/12/08 @ 12:58
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Have any of you been caught picking your nose while composing a review?

Do any of you hate beta keys giveaways, but daren't say anything in case Rupert puts pins on your chairs?

Do any of you have secret sock accounts with which to post rude comments about other reviewers?

How much dust is on your Wiis?
Frandroid
16/12/08 @ 13:15
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1. Games you feel you should have played this year but haven't, and why.
2. Games from previous years you only just discovered/got round to this year.
3. What was involved in getting EurogamerTV on to Live and Home, restrictions and editorial oversight etc.
4. Extras and fluff that accompany review copies. The good, bad and the downright weird. Also, any relationship between the quality of the game and quality of bribe... er... fluff.
Putty Man
16/12/08 @ 13:16
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Did anyone at the EG towers find GTA4 repetitive AND clunky?

If so, I'd really like to read about it so I don't feel so alone.

(...ok, maybe its just me then...)
Chufty
16/12/08 @ 13:59
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Why are all multiplatform reviews and articles in the Xbox 360 section with an Xbox 360 header graphic? Is it not about time you had a multiplatform graphic?
Doctor_What
16/12/08 @ 14:01
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How much time do you get to play games before reviewing them?

What is the average underwear colour of the staff?

Do you all like cheese?
ShakaCarnage
16/12/08 @ 14:53
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I'd like an editors blog on what you have to deal with every day, from Irate PRs to Shit contributors. Theyre all great, obviously.
GamesConnoisseur
16/12/08 @ 15:17
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I enjoyed EG's Top 50 and reading all the angsts from the 'experts' gaming population!

Keep it up and dont listen to the moaners. They can always post their 'alternatives' list and I secretly know that my top ten is the ONLY real thing that matters to a particular game player....moi!

Man! Of course everyone's list would be different!
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HolyJebus
16/12/08 @ 15:33
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I think it would be good to have a little bio on each of the writers with their favourite games of past, present and future (i'm in a xmas mood) and maybe a little write up on favourite gaming moments, consoles and developers. This would help the readers relate more to the writers and also make it easier to single out who's recommendations they should be paying more attention to. Then have a link to these bio pages at the end of each review ala the scoring policy. I've been reading EG for years now but still have no idea which reviewer I relate most to.
orakio
16/12/08 @ 15:54
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I'd like to know more about the process of reviewing... We already know scores are dictated by the people reviewing the game, which is a personal interpretation and entirely up to the reviewer... But is the technique of reviewing itself somewhat standardized? Do you have a EG procedure or checklist that everyone has to go through?
Is the end score a single 'gut feeling' one or is it a representation of various subscores combined with another magical formula?
Is there a lot of paperwork involved with reviewing a game?

I know, I'm being very nosey ^_^
peterfll
16/12/08 @ 16:45
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I'd like to know to more about the EG team. I'm talking salacious gossip, rumours and the politics. I want to know who hates who, who holds a grudge against someone else. Who got a bigger rise, who got that bonus they didn't deserve, who got those back-handers. Remember, truth is always subjective and rumour is fine.

I'm especially interested if anyone has slept with someone else on the team or otherwise done anything else sexually perverse or interesting.

Please furnish us with these details Tom and, of course, let the rest of the team freely contribute as required.
iokthemonkey
16/12/08 @ 17:17
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I don't get why people get so bent out of shape when somebody draws up a list of games and their favourite isn't on it.

Does that suddenly mean that all these years of playing games *I* enjoy playing was somehow wrong and that I should instead care what a group of people I don't even KNOW think about the games THEY play and like?
vansinne
16/12/08 @ 18:25
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I couldn't agree more with the coments saying that it's about time you introduce yourselves properly! The reason I keep coming back to EG is that you are a bunch of insanely good writers, and maybe mostly, that you always manage to be personal with an ironic halfsmile instead of stumbling over into self promotion (a rare feat these days). Now that you have firmly established that you are having a laugh once in a while simply because you love having a laugh, you can safely put up your profiles without anyone accusing you of just wanting to shout your own names. Many of us come here just because you are so personal. So goddamit, be personal.

And for the Editor's blog. Would love to hear about the relationships between different gamepages and magazines. Comerades in arms that share a pint when the day is over or open warfare?

And of course, I would love to read tidbits out of the fanmail and love letters that Ellie has gotten. Just to check out the competition before I start writing to her myself.
DUFFKING
16/12/08 @ 19:44
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On the other hand Paranoid, I hope NG2 is nowhere to be seen :)
Tehren
16/12/08 @ 20:57
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Well said sir
shotgun44
16/12/08 @ 22:36
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I think it's pretty obvious that writers' biographies are what the people want. Failing that, an article on why you didn't listen!
Mudo
16/12/08 @ 22:49
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I love dan whitehead myself can we have an editors blog about dan whitehead please
wok
17/12/08 @ 04:13
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Love reading the meta (?) reactions to your own top 50 list, makes for very enjoyable holiday reading. Also I'll throw another vote for more insight into who these mystery writers are and how they ended up reviewing games in the first place.
Les
17/12/08 @ 08:32
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"And then your list - based on your votes, compiled with the same system and far more respondents - comes out, and BioShock wins. Man, and we're supposed to be populist!"

?! A BioShock win = populist. It's basically the game equivalent of The Matrix: Cleverly disguised shallowness. Though I did actually enjoy The Matrix a bit. Sure had better lighting...
JJKrista1
17/12/08 @ 09:14
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Points to HolyJebus

Do what he sez.
Farzlepot
17/12/08 @ 09:43
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- How do you decide whether or not a game is better than Halo?

- When writing console exclusive reviews, are there any subliminal messages that you can put into them to induce artificial outrage in fanboys? If so, is this your primary form of entertainment?

- Does Microsoft send hired goons over to your office whenever a new Halo or Gears comes out, thus forcing you to give it a nauseatingly positive review?

- How come I can see Eurogamer when I switch my Xbox on now? Was it there before? How did it get there? Are you on Playstations as well? Or Dreamcasts? Or Magnavox Odysseys? Do you pay Microsoft with money or souls? Or both?

- Where did you find Ellie, and which Z-list, completely irrelevant 'celebrities' will you have her interviewing for shits and giggles in 2009?

- Do you guys exude clouds of smug as you lounge around in your ivory tower, safe in the knowledge that you earn money from playing video games while the rest of us suffer in rat-race hell? Can I work there too?

- What are you doing to combat the fraudulent websites cashing in on your name, such as eurogamer.de which looks identical but is somehow even more illegible than here?

- What manner of substance exactly was being passed around your office when Earth Defence Force 2017 was awarded 9/10? Does this kind of hedonism occur often at Eurogamer HQ? Can I work there too?
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mingster
17/12/08 @ 12:22
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Get a blog..

o you have ok.
merkdot
17/12/08 @ 13:28
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let's kick off the system wars.

Wii will be lucky to get more than a couple of entries this year.
vegard
17/12/08 @ 13:38
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i would like to hear about encounters with midget prositutes
Tomo
17/12/08 @ 14:39
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This is an intriguing blog post. Good idea tho I think. Will have a ponder...
Fr002
31/12/08 @ 03:02
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Maybe you could tell us about what you think make a good review in term of writing :
Style of writing you like to use,
The line between description and analysis in a game review,
How long should be a review to have a good analysis of the game you check, but ensure that it dont become some kind of essay (1,2,3 pages ?),
Normally, how do you organize your themes (graphic, sound, gameplay...) in your reviews,
How much time it takes you, how long do you play the game before, do you takes notes when you play, do you discuss the game with someone's who also play it after ?

Having been a reviewer myself (in french) for Zeden.net, i think these subjects could be interesting (well, at least for me !)

That said, i really think you are one of the best review site on the web.... Great Stalker and AC (PC) reviews, and many others.
Love your style, love your web site and i love your Top 10 (lol LBP !) i would have put Geometry War 2, but well english ppl...
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