Edge Games "completely certain" of win
"When did EA become the good guys?"
Tim Langdell's Edge Games has told Eurogamer how "completely certain" it is of beating EA - and Mobigame - in court.
An unnamed spokesperson for the company talked of a "biased" press, and said EA "doesn't like the fact there is still one UK company older than itself that they have not yet destroyed".
"Yes, we are completely confident we will win," began the email. "Isn't it amazing how biased towards Electronic Arts the press is on this? When did EA suddenly become the good guys?
"Just before they filed their amended petition to cancel we filed our Motion for Summary Judgement, but their resubmission of their petition gets coverage and our Motion to have the entire issue go away gets no coverage. How could these people be more blatant in their bias in favour of EA?
"Yes, we are completely certain of winning in both the US and UK against EA/EA DICE and against [Mobigame] on the European CTM issue," the letter added. "We have asked Connect2Media to remove [Mobigame's] EDGE from mobile phones and are confident they will do so if they have not done so already."
Edge Games said it was "extremely likely" that EA's advances will be dismissed, because the US publishing giant has "no new detail that enables them to argue fraud", merely "trumped up" accusations of it. Edge Games believes EA will "lose the US action shortly".
"Bottom line," Edge went on to say, "we are the oldest remaining British game company, and one of the oldest remaining US game companies doesn't like the fact there is still one UK company older than itself that they have not yet destroyed. And they wont succeed. False rumours, misinformation and defamation never won any trademark case and it wont this time, either."
Check out our feature on the Edge Games controversy form last summer to catch up on both sides of the issue.
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Around the time they went after your sorry ass Langdell...
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His perception that the press is being biased towards EA is completely irrelevant - people will call out dickheads when they see 'em, regardless of agenda.
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I thought the bottom line was this guy is a trademark-squatting jerk who's barely published anything in the last two decades?
I bet he owns http://www.electronicartz.com too and wants to sue EA for clearly infringing on his good name.
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Or a genius.
However any judge that enforces such a trademark...
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Compared to you lot, they are the good guys.
I also love the fact he seems to think we'll all be on his side simply because they're 'British' (how long have they had their office in America, by the way?).
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The moment the world learned that there are complete dicks like you.
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How much do I owe you Tim ?
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Leave EA alone and pick on someone your own size!
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What is he, an adult businessman or a whining teenager on a web forum?
"Good guys" indeed. Grow up ffs.
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Though I'd love to be proved wrong. Come on Tim, what's stopping you from releasing 'Racers' or the episodic 'Teenage Wasteland? The "extreme sports and Hip Hop audiences" are crying out for decent games.
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...about the time you made and released that statement...
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Tim, Tim, Tim... if our oldest remaining game company is one who hasn't done anything related to games except trademark troll for 20 years, then I, for one, welcome our new American overlords!
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They are bringing out and championing new games
and best of all they are standing up to complete fuck heads like this guy and Activision.
Now i know that if they ever regain their power they will be typical corporate bastards again, but for now i love you EA .. I LOVE YOU !!
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Funny that: i'm completely certain i'll sleep with Megan Fox. Still, that certainty doesn't mean it's probable or even possible.
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I hope he loses every single case and gets a stint in chokey to reflect on his actions.
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But seriously, yeah, hopefully this sorry mess will be over soon. Doesn't surprise me that an amateurish 'company' like Langdell's has resorted to petty mudslinging. Again.
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Yeah, that's because the motion's going to be denied. Again. Idiot.
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Try playing manager mode or getting online achievements on the first week of a FIFA release and saying that
On the whole, yes, their turnaround is remarkable, and is great for gaming. Their main problem now is shutting themselves in the dark when it comes to customer feedback and post-release problem fixing, which hopefully will come in time.
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Wikipedia says: Edge Games was founded in California in 1990 by Tim Langdell. At that time, it acquired the intellectual property assets of Langdell's former company, Softek Software, itself founded in 1980 in London, England.
So there's nothing 'British' about the company at all!
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Any chance you could paste us a link to the thread? I'd like to read that shit, cheers.
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Now as much as Langdell is a dick, let’s not say that a fascist group committing some of the worst atrocities the world has ever seen is better than a trademark troll.
When he says they are confident of Connect2Media removing the game from phones, does that mean that if you’d purchased the game before it was pulled form sale, this company can somehow delete it from your mobile without your permission?
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So, no mister Langdell (yes, we know that you are that anonymous spokesman, nobody in their right mind would represent you), Edge games is NOT the oldest existing UK company. That would be Rare or some other company that actually added good games to this world.
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When they decided to take down a parasitic little cunt like you, Timothy.
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Hi Tim!
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So no, he isn't going to win. He may, in fact, be going to prison if the legal system works as it should. It's 5 years in jail for perjury over there. I hope they absolutely fucking nail him to the wall.
And the unnamed spokesperson is Langdell himself, of course.
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Certain of that win, really?
"we are the oldest remaining British game company"
Just how was the prehistoric era, dinosaur?
When Edge Game starts burning from the fire EA will bring, watch as no-one goes running for water, or wastes liquid on it.
@17. 100% agree.
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Ah, I've missed this good old Langdell nonsense.
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Is it just me or can EA do no wrong at the moment ?
C&C4 DRM says hi!
Otherwise they're great, IMO.
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[link url=http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92051465&pty=CAN&eno=16
]http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=9...[/link]
All I can say is O.M.F.G.
That fake Edge cover is incredible. I particularly like the way he's elevated his own brand of gaming PCs to front page news!
He also submitted the cover of an amiga game released in 1989, and an Incredible Hulk comic published in 1995, claiming they were both proof of his trademark being active in the last 5 years.
Wow. Just wow. Did he really think that nobody would notice?
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(No, I don't work there but I *am* grateful that they published BC2 for PC as well as consoles...)
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I'll let Tim Langdell have the use of a few of my letters though, those being W.A.N.K.E.R
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Having had some success with Edge magazine and a little indie dev who had an iPhone game called Edge, he decided to go after EA for Mirror's Edge.
This may prove to be a mistake, as EA obviously didn't get where it is today by bending over for anyone who hires a lawyer, and their legal team have twigged that much of the evidence he provided in his claim is either deliberately misrepresented, or outright forged.
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LOL! That is quality. Cheers.
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Good overview there, but you are slightly wrong. He never made games himself, he ripped off developers, publishing their games and never paying them.
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You colossal moron.
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When Tim Langdel decided trolling law suites was a better way of making money then actually developing his own games.
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Do some fucking work.
Regards,
Everyone
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Bottom line is you are a fucking embarrassment to Britain and you should just piss off and take your lame trademarked word with you. He should trademark the word asshole, at least that would be valid.
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That's my favourite bit. As if it was EA who went after him, as he was quietly minding his own business as one of Britain's longest established and best respected developers.
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You note I said might. I'm no expert and this is pure speculation...
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He definitely is. There's no other explanation. If he genuinely believes that he's telling the truth, even after all the "forgeries", then he must be completely delusional.
But if he knows he's lying and carries on the charade anyway, and believes for a second that anyone is taken in, then he's nuts there too. A compulsive liar on another level to practically anyone else I've ever heard of.
So there's no possible reasoning that could make him anything other than padded cell material, tbh.
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Do some fucking work.
Regards,
Everyone
You know until I read this I never actually thought about it but. Langdell is really trying to avoid actually doing some honest work isn't he.
With so much negativity against him and his methods, what human being would want to live with this stigma?
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Mental illness is an affliction, he should only be gently mocked, rather than openly derided!
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Come Tim, your company has'nt published a game in more than 15 years, stop cyber squatting!
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Either he's got a time machine - or is just forging stuff. I suspect the latter.
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My hard to spot joke was based on me avoiding being sued by Langdell*. As I hear he is quite partial to a bit of suing from time to time
You might want to chuck the word "allegedly" into your post somewhere, just in case he writes you a threatening letter (allegedly using a mix of crayon and his own poo)
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If I'm not much mistaken, that is a clip from the film "Session 9". A very great film (though a slow burner, so give it a chance).
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"I love it how he goes "we at edge games this" "we that" "we such" when "we" is a guy on a basement."
Hey now, it just isn't fair to forget his mum like that. That tray of milk and biscuits won't carry itself down the stairs you know.
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You're a cunt.
Regards,
Everyone"
/fixed
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Who is he going to have defend him? Lionel Hutz or something!?
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shut the fuck up langdell you talentless, exploitative prick
hope this guy loses every penny of his ill gotten gains and dies a horrible death. worthless, useless cunt
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He also tried to sue Marvel Comics when they had a line called "Marvel EDGE" in the early 90s. They promptly renamed the line instead of paying him.
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There is actually an unconfirmed report that he HAS gone after The Edge from U2, before backing down when they called his bluff.
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Really? On his website he claims to have published the Marvel Edge comics.
One of them iis referenced in the EA proceeding as one of the pieces of evidence he claimed showed that the trademark was still current and active.
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If he is to have a successful case against Mirrors Edge with his fabricated bullshit 'Mirrors', he is going to have to submit at least 4 years worth of development work to prove it is a real project and not just a load of bollocks he made up.
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When you started acting like a FUCKING GODDAMN CUNT.
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<a href="http://chaosedge.wordpress.com/">ChaosEdge</a href>
I believe EA have even used some of the evidence from it in their case. It's a fascinating read - I dare you to read everything without thinking Tim is a cuntwank.
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When did EA become the good guys? Come on, dude, that's an easy question.
The answer is: the second they stood up for all that is right. You have no reason to feel threatened by other companies using the word EDGE because your company isn't even on the map therefore it stands to lose, hmm, nothing at all by their using that word. It seems that the only reason you might threaten them is because you can't sustain yourself financially without doing so. I believe the reason you need to threaten them is that you'd go hungry and homeless without their money, because you don't have any other skills. That's just my belief of course.
I think you're an evil human being and I hope they take you for everything you've got.
Cheers,
Jackface
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Really? On his website he claims to have published the Marvel Edge comics.
On his website he also claims to have owned Edge Magazine. You're going to believe Langdell over fact?
I have the comics in question. And as Marvel are a massive publisher of comics, why would they choose to publish some of them (such as the Incredible Hulk) through Langdell? Incredible Hulk, Punisher, etc (which were published under the Marvel EDGE imprint - meaning they were EDGY, mature comics) - were IPs owned by Marvel. Read the Chaos Edge blog for evidence of this - when he claimed the comics in question were "in circulation" they had actually been OUT of circulation for nearly a decade.
EDIT: Said comics were published in the early 90s - 1995 to be exact. After Langdell asked them for a licensing agreement, they dropped the line - the Marvel EDGE imprint lasted for around 6 issues.
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Seriously, what a dick. I hope EA not only destroys his trademark in both the UK and the US, but pummels his shitty little company into the ground and makes him work for a living.
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I wrote him back a very polite and civil reply dripping in thinly veiled sarcasm and borderline passive aggression. I look forward to a long and productive correspondance with him.
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.. Because (looking at the court documents) it seems he keeps stalling. He hasnt "won" anything at all yet just applying stalling tactics (as far as i can see) - i may be wrong *
* - i only wrote that last bit to cover my own ass legally :-D
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Seems to be a universal hatred for langdell
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I'll give him this: he's got a doctorate in being dead inside, spinning a good sob story and studiously avoiding the point.
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My Italian based company that is developing a new, automated shopping trolley have also been the target of completely unfair bullying from Electronic Arts.
I cannot divluge any details of the proceedings at the moment though.
Martin, CEO
Electroni Carts
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Not only does he seem to claim to own the word 'Edge', he also seems to think that he owns everything else that uses the word 'Edge'. It's one thing to claim that Marvel or Future are infringing your trademark, it's quite another to claim that you are then responsible for their products.
Er, allegedly.
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Langdell has some very nefarious practices, with the game "Racers" by EDGE (really though provoking name their Tim, how did you come up with that intriguing title?) he found out there was a game on the Apple App store called Killer Edge Racing. Then he sneakily registered a trademark for "Racers" by EDGE then wrote to Apple saying the game was infringing on his ownership of the word 'EDGE' and the title Racers.
I'm still astonished that there was someone stupid enough to actually allow him to trademark a word that has been part of the English language since Jesus wrote the dictionary. =)
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I couldn't plus this comment quick enough.
"Langdell's face makes me angry."
He always looks so harmlessly carefree... it still makes me angry though, because he always looks like a poorly photoshopped Matt Groening. Would you put it past him?
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you mean either Tim or his wife?
as they are the only actual 'employees'.
TIM!! BAD TRADEMARK TROLL IS BAD!!
/sigh.
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Edge Games "completely made" of fail.
Fixed.
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He basicvally just goes on and on about how all he's doing is following the law, which has essentially forced him into taking action against people in order to protect his own mark, or he'll lose it. He never once answers the question, "Do you genuinely believe these games and films and comics and magazines are damaging your reputation by using a word in the name of your company?"
The reason he doesn't answer it is that he doesn't have to. As he repeatedly said to me, the law agrees with him. He's in the right, legally.
And that's the point, that's what EA are trying to do, ultimately: get the law changed.
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That's because you're a cunt Tim.
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quite how this guy has been allowed to trademark a generic word like edge is beyond me, but somehow he did and he's been squatting on it ever since sueing anybody who uses it in a successful title.
say what you will about ea but they haven't stopped to that level yet.
ea have been putting out games for years and this other guy hasn't made anything for over a decade.
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If you find yourself in a position to say "When did EA suddenly become the good guys?" it may be that your moral compass is in need of adjustment. There is a certain depth beyond which man was not meant to sink.
* I use the term loosely
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