EA sued over Sports Active trademark
Company wants $75,000 plus legal fees.
Exercise website the Active Network has filed a lawsuit against Electronic Arts.
The company is complaining that forthcoming Wii, PS3 and iPhone game EA Sports Active 2.0 infringes its trademarks.
As reported by Gamespot, Active Network reckons it owns the right to use the word "active" in relation to all things sporty, such as personal training schedules, fitness chat rooms and workout trackers.
It's claimed that the online functionality in EA Sports Active 2.0 will make it a direct competitor to Active.com. (The previous games didn't have any online options, so the company wasn't bothered.)
Active Network is asking for $75,000 in damages, legal fees, and an injunction that prevents EA from releasing or promoting the new title. EA has yet to comment on the lawsuit.
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But seriously these petty suings are running rampant in the industry, something needs to be done.
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"A new law needs to be passed..."
I'd be extremely wary of a new law that went anywhere near the word "foolish".
How would we determine whether someone's legal claim is foolish? Ooo, I've an idea... we could test it in court. If not there, then where? Down the pub? Across the office using a show of hands?
Seriously, we can't start creating laws that prevent people from testing the legality of things in a court of law. Testing such things is the reason courts exist. Trying to enforce such a law would (if the law were to be fair) eventually end up in us creating another court... but calling it something else.
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Even though (imo) this looks like a fairly legitimate claim.
This isn't like Langdell trying to stop anyone using the word "edge" in a game, this is a case of EA using the word "active" in relation to a very specific feature of their new game. Notice that there wasn't any sueing with the first EA Active, because that game didn't include this feature and so didn't (allegedly) infringe on the trademark in question.
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I think it is rediculous how someone can seemingly "posses" a word in the dictionary.
"WTF, you are calling yourself a baker? But I'M a baker! I'm going to sue you for loss of earnings!"
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As examples go, that is rubbish.
If you had called yourself "The Tasty Bakery" selling your world famous "Tasty Pie" and someone else then opened a shop up the street, also called "The Tasty Bakery", also selling a world famous "Tasty Pie", then the comparison might stand.
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"Trademark infringement" only becomes important when it causes confusion in the marketplace. Since this group was web based they didn't care about the first one because it didn't involve the internet. The second one does, so people could get confused between the products, hence why they believe it is trademark infringement.
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That's a bit far, and only a bit less far than Langdell (his Edge applies to everything, even a burger, I imagine, though I have no idea why a burger would be called Edge). It'd be legitimate if they make even the smallest game in terms of scale. There are so many other reasons why this is just a money grab. Another is that EA's thing is called EA Sports Active. It's a game. It'd have been legitimate if it's a network. It's just not right to have rights to one word that encompasses a whole genre.
@kangarootoo: That's funny, I was just about to pose this question, "Should I have rights to the words "juicy" and "tasty" for all food-related stuff if I register for them?"
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Bingo
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you have a bakery called "Tasty Bakers" selling your "Tasty Pies" but then someone opens a shop down the road called "Burt's Yummy Tasty Bakers" selling "Burt's Yummy Tasty Apple Pies".
To me theres a clear distinction and no confusion between the two, the whole trademark thing has been blown out of proportion, similar to the patent system by greedy people out to make a quick buck. Im not defending EA here as Im sure they are just as bad in their own respect, but the whole thing just reminds me of little kids squabbling in the playground over who gets to play with the pullback car next, but on a corporate level, its frankly a discusting way to see humans behave.
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Well your examples are perhaps better ones than mine. There is a strong degree of similarity, in the same market, which could lead to customer confusion. Not confusion to the extent that they think the products are exactly the same thing, but perhaps that your Tasy Apple Pies are made by the same dude up the street who makes Tasty Pies (i.e. me).
Maybe a customer that fancies apples goes into your shop, thinking you are an extension of my business, and I lose money as a result of that confusion.
Now that is unlikely in your specific example, as you used the word "Bert". Though the absence of any name from my brand could perhaps lead people who make the initial confusion to believe I am Bert too (and if I started using the word "Bert", you may want to counter sue me as well).
However, as I said at the start of the thread, how "obvious" a confusion is or isn't is hard to decide fairly. And a court of law is probably the only safe place to do it. We should probably get together first and discuss whether one of us can call our pies something else, but if we couldn't agree, we need a 3rd party to determine who is right... i.e. a court.
Lets not forget that at the root of all of this is a business that wants to protect its income. Companies don't do this sort of thing for fun, or because they are greedy. Whether Active Network turns out to be wrong or right in this case, they are suing because they are worried that EA is going to end up taking customer from them one way or another.
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You could indeed trademark those words if the context was specific. It all depends on content though. If your tagline for your orange drink was "Sure is juicy!", someone else using the same tagline would be in trouble. If their tagline was "made from fresh juicy oranges", probably not.
If your tagline was simply "Juicy!", you would have a tougher time in the same example. But if another company was to start using ther word Juicy in issolation, just like you, things would get mroe complex I think.
I think key in this case is that both companies don't have much context padding around the use of the word "Active". A sports company called "Active Network", and an online EA product called "Sports Active" (presumably part of the "EA Network"
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EA Sports Active is actually a game. That's the name of it, "EA Sports Active". Admittedly, "EA Sports" are printed smaller compared to the big "Active"; regardless, I'm sure that's the name they registered under. Whereas "Active Network" is just a website, where they have sports news and articles and other sports related stuff. Check it out if you haven't. Seems like a big difference to me, though I agree that they don't have much padding in the name, but just generic words.
Edit: Actually, pardon me. "active.com" is their website with news, articles and whatnot. "activenetwork.com" is their business site, about marketing, management, and other stuff. Still, my point in previous post (not this one - same one with the "Edit" post) stands.
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I have to disagree with you on this one Kazza...
EA Sports Active (the first one) has been out for a good while now, with no hinderance to it's IP, thus wouldn't you assume it's safe for EA to continue using it? I would've thought so, how were EA to know that a company were waiting in the dark to slam them with a lawsuit if they took the name online.
Now there are probably hundreds of thousands of online patents, god forbid if EA were to miss taking the word 'Active' online with their product, active is often associated with fitness so the way I see it EA are doing no wrong, this is a ridiculous patent that needs revision, not a lawsuit.
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Based on this, I am going to assume that the majority of people here are talking on a subject they know very little about and what they do know is the kind of 'I know my rights!' law that is often discussed on the internet.
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I do think there legal team have been active...
Oh no I used the word active, they will be after me now!
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Microsoft and Sony are up in arms and sue.
Lamb incorporates Lamb's Microsoft and Lamb's Sony and countersues.
Seriously the trademark system needs to be overhauled. People will associate quality with the actual supplier if its more than a soundbyte.
Give me something of quality and value to me, when I need it and I will gladly pay for it regardless of who thought of it first.