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EA Sports' Peter Moore Interview

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Interview by Johnny Minkley

19 May, 2008

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Ten months after stumbling his way through Rock Band at Microsoft's E3 2007 press conference, Peter Moore is back in the spotlight. The former showman of Seattle's shock departure from the platform holder came less than a week after Eurogamer's last interview with Moore. Now firmly installed as EA Sports supremo, Moore used this month's Season Opener event at EA Canada to re-emerge from self-imposed public exile, not just to showcase the publisher's latest sporting wares, but also to launch himself back into the media frontline and evangelise the changes he's implemented since sliding into his big, leather Mr President chair.

Whether it was unveiling the studio's bold new casual strategy, limbering (and dressing) up in the ring with world-beating bruisers, or appearing in contorted digital form in several of EA's upcoming titles, Moore's mark was stamped all over the event. This was his vision, and he's very clearly been itching to tell us all about it. Once he'd ditched the iridescent boxing garb and slipped into something a little more 'executive', Eurogamer caught up with Moore, as candid and forthright as ever, to tackle him on his roles past and present.

Eurogamer: It was good to see you in the ring this morning, looking great in your robe.

Peter Moore: I'm never afraid of making a fool of myself as you well know.

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Lennox Lewis. Sadly we don't have pics of Moore in his gown.

Eurogamer: You're certainly never afraid to get involved, and it was good to see you back out in front of a crowd again yesterday. Is it fair to say you've missed being centre stage over the past year?

Peter Moore: Well, it was a very high profile role I had at Microsoft and I thoroughly enjoyed being a protagonist for Xbox, being the face of the business and running the business as well. But I like to think that the work we're doing here is equally important. We're doing a lot more work now, as you've see from the Season Opener - it's less about me.

I enjoy it and I enjoy having fun. [EA's PR] talks me into doing some weird stuff. There was going to be a lot worse than that at one point. I was gonna be in a mo-cap suit and it was gonna get ugly. That would have been the jiggles you saw there. You know me, I have a lot of fun - it's a fun industry. What's not to like?

Eurogamer: Couple of quotes that stood out to me in the presentation you gave yesterday. "Our games can be too hard sometimes"; "there are issues of approachability". I also notice there's a Satoru Iwata portrait on the wall over there talking about games for the masses [commemorating his 2007 visit to the studio]. I couldn't help but notice an irony - aren't those the sort of problems that Xbox currently has?

Peter Moore: It's a very similar branding problem. When we moved from Xbox to Xbox 360, the Xbox was the shooter box, the hardcore box; it was black, it was aggressive in its design. The advertising - you remember the champagne ad in the UK of the baby being born? It was very dark.

That, if you will, set the tone for the Xbox brand from that moment onwards. Here at EA Sports we have a similar problem; I don't think it's quite as big a problem as we had at Xbox of taking a piece of hardware and all the content, and moving to a more mass-market. I think we did a reasonable job of going from black to white, the architectural design being more organic, from "It's good to play together" to "Jump in".

But the same here, we run a very large, hardcore business that is a little bit out of position for Nintendo Wii consumers coming in. You don't want to lose that core consumer, but you've got to go after and captivate the masses and find a way to bring them in.

We used the analogy of a swimming pool, which people have mocked us for. But it's a good analogy. EA Sports was the deep end, right? You either jumped in, you sank or you swam, or you were intimidated and didn't go near the water. We needed to provide a shallow end. So things like All Play for the Wii, the Freestyle brand, provide that shallow end that you can get in and hopefully move down the pool, which we want you to do. But unless we do that, we're really out of position.

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Skate It is one of EA's new run of Wii games.

Eurogamer: And having tuned in to this change, that Nintendo has done so much to push and that you talked passionately about yesterday, did you feel that towards the end at Microsoft, with the way the company is structured, that you weren't able to pursue this goal there, as you can now?

Peter Moore: Microsoft has different motives for getting into the business. We saw it as a way of being in the living room, being a major player, building some great games, but really looking to a consumer that was more technically able. Linking in MSN Messenger, Zune, all of the things we felt would provide a much broader experience.

It's two different companies. You've got the hardware, software, services mentality of what Microsoft needs to do, and then you've got us who are pure software play, but are also gravitating to a service-oriented company. But our consumer segment is so wide, and the industry is changing enormously. We really were feeling about six moths ago that we needed to do a completely different job on the Wii. We needed to build the games from the ground up, and we needed a more approachable face for the brand - at the same time not dumbing things down.

I saw a number of stories today: 'EA Sports is dumbing down the experience'. I must have said three times yesterday, we're not dumbing down the experience. As you've seen in the games, there are ways to help you along. Tiger Woods is a great example with Hank Haney [your mentor in-game].

The key is, it recognises how good you are pretty quickly. If you're a hardcore Madden player, you don't need a lot of help. But if you're like me and you jump in and you're not very good, the game helps you along. And that's the key.

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DB2k
19/05/08 @ 07:19
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did that tatoo come off then?
morriss
19/05/08 @ 07:42
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I love PM. Top man.
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19/05/08 @ 07:49
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I always thought Peter got the mix of corporate bollocks, humour and humility correct, unlike so many others in his position.

A shame then that on a personally level I'm not intrested in sports whatsoever, and hence, am very unlikely to ever buy one of his EA games.
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BadBoyBonner
19/05/08 @ 07:58
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You have to love how honest he is about most things - always refreshing in an industry typically full BS's.
thomasbeff
19/05/08 @ 07:59
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"I always thought Peter got the mix of corporate bollocks, humour and humility correct, unlike so many others in his position."

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Killerbee
19/05/08 @ 08:15
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Great interview. He really does sound like a top bloke and was undoubtedly a great loss for Microsoft. You can't argue with his reasons for moving on though - fair play to him.
Eighthours
19/05/08 @ 08:19
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I like Peter Moore. Good interview, guys.
Laika
19/05/08 @ 08:41
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He reminds me of Ming the Merciless in that picture for some reason.
rotmm
19/05/08 @ 08:43
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Top interview.
woodnotes
19/05/08 @ 08:43
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"I was on a retail tour last week in Arkansas, Minnesota and Texas and in multiple stores you couldn't find a Nintendo Wii. How stunning is that, two and a half years on?"

You mean one and a half years, Peter.
samaran
19/05/08 @ 08:48
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peter moore is king of kings.
CallousB
19/05/08 @ 08:50
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As far as I can see EA's Wii output is looking as half assed as ever. Boom Blox is good (although awful presentation..and they didn't market at all on tv..which you HAVE to do with mass market aimed Wii games)..but the rest seem to have little effort put in...you can smell the flops from a mile off.

They say the right things..but that's about it.
ulov3
19/05/08 @ 09:18
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Why didn't you ask whethe,r as a brit, he would care to make a decent rugby game.

cheeseweasel
19/05/08 @ 09:21
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"It's not like in the old days, when Dreamcast and PlayStation, then PlayStation 2 and Xbox were all crowding into a similar space."

Eh?

Aside from mixing and matching generations, how is the PS3 / 360 any different - it's only the Wii that's stepped out of the mold...
Garulon
19/05/08 @ 09:30
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"Aside from mixing and matching generations, how is the PS3 / 360 any different - it's only the Wii that's stepped out of the mold... "

Except for the moldy old gamecube chipset, that is

Vin
19/05/08 @ 09:42
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Sadly, the great show from Peter and co at E3 2005 shall never be repeated.

mk-1601
19/05/08 @ 10:17
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So his leaving MS was nothing to do with the $1.15bn RROD repair bill then?
JaysonG
19/05/08 @ 10:24
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"Depending on what you want out of games now, there's three distinctive platforms.

Clearly Xbox is about online, connectivity and social entertainment; the Wii is about fun and pick-up-and-play and getting off the couch; and the PlayStation 3... seems to have benefited from the GTA launch well."


lol
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Vertical Stand
19/05/08 @ 10:26
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The questions were far too polite for my liking, he's an ass, who now works for EA. Insult him, right to his face!
Avaloner
19/05/08 @ 10:44
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Why do they insist that we will switch to total digital distribution in the future? I do not see it happening. Music has been avaliable digitally for a long time now - it is easier to manage with smaller files and all plus there have been very good players which cater specifically for that type of media. Yet, despite all these advantages, we still have cds. People like having something physical in their hand.

Yes digital distribution will become more popular and games will start being distributed digitally instead of being discontinued like is happening now - but it might be several years and a few breakthroughs in internet connection and data storage before we can even start thinking about forgetting the packaged goods.
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19/05/08 @ 10:47
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does he ask for the photos of him to be cropped there to hide his bald nogan?
ulov3
19/05/08 @ 10:52
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GIVE US A DECENT RUGBY GAME, MR PETER MOORE, i know u read this forum, come on enough madden and nba rip off updates,
cut the pr crap and use the technology you have to make something we actually enjoy playing.
ulov3
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GIVE US A DECENT RUGBY GAME, MR PETER MOORE, i know u read this forum, come on enough madden and nba rip off updates,
cut the pr crap and use the technology you have to make something we actually enjoy playing.
xbendystevex
19/05/08 @ 11:05
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Great interview. I just wish EA sports would release NCAA Football over her for the 360. I hope they do a European release for the MLB games when (if) they get the license...
miiiguel
19/05/08 @ 11:15
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Avaloner, what "they" say is, phisical media will become less and less important - audio cds are not as important as they were 10 years ago, actually they seem ancient tech... .
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19/05/08 @ 11:22
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GIVE US A DECENT RUGBY GAME, MR PETER MOORE

they did, it's called rugby 08.

shame it's only on ps2 and pc though, as i really want a rugby game.
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19/05/08 @ 11:27
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GIVE US A DECENT RUGBY GAME, MR PETER MOORE, i know u read this forum, come on enough madden and nba rip off updates,
cut the pr crap and use the technology you have to make something we actually enjoy playing.


That would be cool, especially now Swordfish are too busy making games with crap rappers in.

Not much money in it though, I fear. And I think they'd really need to move production over to the UK as well. American made rugby and cricket games always give the impression of having been made by people who've never actually seen the sport themselves, but have had it described to them over the phone...
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19/05/08 @ 11:30
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@miiguel mp3s are poorer sound quality than CD audio, oh and vinyl is better than both CD and Mp3s, support the vinyl!
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19/05/08 @ 11:35
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vertical stand, you are wrong, and there almost no way you could tell the difference in a double blind test, other than from hearing pops and crackles in your "superior quality" vinyl.
miiiguel
19/05/08 @ 11:59
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Vertical Stand, you say mp3 are poorer than CDA and then you praise vinil?! I mean, vinil is nice if you dig 3D sound (bass, treble, and... noise).

I can't distinguish mp3's from cdas, and I tried hard..., just can't.
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19/05/08 @ 12:04
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Peter Moore: No, I don't think... Chris is right: physical media will ultimately go away. I think it's a lot longer than 12-18 months.

miiguel: Avaloner, what "they" say is, phisical media will become less and less important - audio cds are not as important as they were 10 years ago, actually they seem ancient tech... .


They are arguing about the total switch to digital distribution. Yes, physical media is less important definitely but I doubt it will be overtaken by digital distribution in the foreseeable future let alone being replaced completely.As to your point about music CDs: Audio CDs are less important than they used to be but they are still more common than digital distribution if you discount the pirated digital media. I would have to disagree that CDs feel like ancient tech.

NewbieZilla
19/05/08 @ 14:13
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"Audio CDs are less important than they used to be but they are still more common than digital distribution if you discount the pirated digital media. I would have to disagree that CDs feel like ancient tech. "

That is a very big if (discounting pirated digital media, that is)
Vertical Stand
19/05/08 @ 14:20
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I never said vinyl was superior sound quality to Cds and Mp3, just that the wax is better!
seasidebaz
19/05/08 @ 15:11
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analogue audio > dvd quality audio > cd quality audio > mp3 > telephone.

simply down to bitrate.
Krelle
19/05/08 @ 15:15
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Of course digital distribution will get more and more popular with games, as with music, but I dont see the discs to go away in another..20-30 years. Those generations are still used to picking up games at the mall as kids, and alot of us still like the feel of something solid when you bought it.

Im tired, cba to spell check etc ;c
Krelle
19/05/08 @ 15:19
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The mp3 of today (with decent bitrate) is good enough. Almost no one can distinguish it from "superior" formats anyway so the whole discussion is pointless.
ulov3
19/05/08 @ 17:19
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ONE MORE THING:

I like the way he manage to say nothing positive about Sony....a part from some generic "and the PlayStation 3 seems to have benefited from the GTA launch well"

Anyway i like the man, if he only managed to tell someone to use the fifa engine for a proper man's game called rugby...
subtlesnake
19/05/08 @ 23:49
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"Aside from mixing and matching generations, how is the PS3 / 360 any different - it's only the Wii that's stepped out of the mold..."

Well, the Xbox and Dreamcast were still fledgling brands, where as I think the 360, Wii and PS3 are all very well established, and have their own semi-established user bases (in terms of popular perception at least, the 360 has the US online oriented 'hardcore', the PS3 has the European market, and the Wii appeals to those outside the mainstream games market).
Zappa
20/05/08 @ 23:53
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look more m$ trash by eg.

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