Earthrise Comments by Robert Purchese

So again, it sounds like "we're going to depend on the PvP players to make their own content..."

So by skill based, do they mean twitch-based, or am I missing the point?

So by skill based, do they mean twitch-based, or am I missing the point?

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I wondered about that, too and got the impression it was twitchy. But then other bits sound like it's stat-skills... /hmm

Air Rivals is a sci-fi MMO that hasn't tanked. Yet, at least.

I hate the PvP focus of so many MMOs. It's like they see WoW, think "Ah, they've got PvE done", and just don't even try to compete. That's the reason I like WoW and LOTRO so much. If I'm playing against other players, I'm sure as heck not paying the subscription - to me, that pays for the persistant world, not arenas that are just as well being peer-to-peer.

That's just my opinion though, I appreciate there are people out there who like PvP.

Maybe a post-apocalyptic MMO could get me back into the MMO world? Hmm.

anarchy online - still going

anyway, fair fucks to them, it might be ok

I hope either this or Stargate Worlds is gonna be good. Even both, I'd love an MMO like this.

eurogamer your mad old teacher meant the fourth world war, not the third :p

The Player economy is the most important part to me. He is right that other games have utterly failed in that aspect. Crafting doesn't matter in WOW and the AI controlled supply/demand system of guild wars is, at best, predictable. I have always wanted to play a game without levels too. Levels are a built in value system. A level 34 player can obliterate a level 15 player no matter how well the level 15 player uses strategy. Without levels a smart player can spend 2/3 the time playing his opponent does and still overcome. The person who works 40 hours a week should be able to compete with the person who works 20 hours a week and lives with their parents.

The ideas are great, but lets be honest Hellgate promised innovation. It took them forever and they still released an incomplete failure. Further more I don't understand why the article didn't call them out on the fact that they are picking up the Hellgate pieces. First it's Fallout, then Tabula Rasa, but neither come as close in comparison as Hellgate does. And Hellgate failed miserably so I would like to know how they plan to overcome the failures of a Post-Apocalyptic SCI-FI MMORPG that has already failed.

Also as far as the PVP idea I would like to point out that Shadowbane tried that. They are free to play with a premium pay account now. What would be innovative would be a PVP based game where the Pay to Play content was the typical hero content and the Free to Play offered players the chance to play as the monsters. I have always wanted to play as the monsters in the game because AI is made to lose, but if you are paying to play than I want to see the monster I am kicking the crap out of try to run before it dies. And on the other hand I would like to be able to lure some Noob into the middle of a group of other monsters and see if he dies or runs first.

That is all.

The Player economy is the most important part to me. He is right that other games have utterly failed in that aspect. Crafting doesn't matter in WOW and the AI controlled supply/demand system of guild wars is, at best, predictable. I have always wanted to play a game without levels too. Levels are a built in value system. A level 34 player can obliterate a level 15 player no matter how well the level 15 player uses strategy. Without levels a smart player can spend 2/3 the time playing his opponent does and still overcome. The person who works 40 hours a week should be able to compete with the person who works 20 hours a week and lives with their parents.

There's lots of robust economies on MMOs. EVE's economy is as complex as it's PvP and general game mechanics - and that's saying something. In fact, the market is pretty much entirely PvP between what we call carebears [people who don't fight and usually get blown up a helluvalot].

Don't write every in-game economy off because WoW's is full of fail [WoW is full of fail in general]

do I sense Earthrise being a big grind... RF Online?
I hope not because it looks like an interesting game.

it's nice that it's pvp based. it will scare the pve weak losers off, which is gd. but if it's going to be another subscription based mmo, then no thks! gw is nearly gaming perfection and it's free to play. i will allways choose that over this.

Skill based sounds better than grinding up numerical values and just managing stat sheets. Sounds as if being able to aim with a mouse is finally going to be rewarded again.

But PvP based, seriously? PvP might be a good testing grounds to see if combat works and is entertaining over long periods of time, but it is also not a popular as shooting up some monsters in co-op. Which was the last successful PvP only game? UT3 isn't so hot, servers are few and super tough to get into for newbies. Fury failed miserably by being PvP only. PvP means, that at least 50% of players will go away empty handed from a confrontation. That's not motivating for most players. Sure, blame them for not training every day, but games are entertainment, not suffering. Let's hope there are plenty of opportunities to take your friends and shoot some monsters without stressing out on team tactics, PvP exploits and other game mechanics. Left 4 Dead has shown the way.