Dungeon Siege III Preview

Between the Diablo and the deep blue sea.

Always the bridesmaid... Poor old Obsidian Entertainment seems to be fated to ride the coat-tails of others in the North American RPG scene. Born from the ashes of the famous Black Isle Studios, it made its name as a capable understudy for BioWare on Knights of the Old Republic II and Neverwinter Nights 2 - and perhaps unfortunately, that name stuck.

With its Aliens RPG lost in space and rough diamond Alpha Protocol meeting a mixed reception, things don't seem likely to change for the Californian outfit. But after last week, you have to ask if that's such a sad fate after all - because Fallout: New Vegas, in which Obsidian stands in for Bethesda, and Dungeon Siege III were easily two of the best RPGs on show at E3 2010.

Gas Powered Games is the role-model in this case, with boss Chris Taylor overseeing this third instalment in his series of straight dungeon-crawlers, to be published by Square Enix - the Japanese giant's first Western RPG. But it shouldn't be mistaken for the cut-and-shut sequels, no matter how well-welded, Obsidian's done before. It's also in a different style to the studio's previous work.

Instead of simply plugging new content into an existing framework, Dungeon Siege III is being built from the groud up in Obsidian's own engine, brought to consoles for the first time, and gently remodelled as a pretty, punchy and immediate co-operative action-RPG in the classical style.

In other words, if you're one of the many who are disappointed that there are no plans for a console version of Diablo III - or impatient for the presumably distant release of Blizzard's game - then you should be paying very close attention.

'Dungeon Siege III' Screenshot 1

Square Enix has only released concept art so far; no idea why, because the game looks lovely in the flesh.

If you're no fan of fantasy cliché, however, you might want to look away (unlikely as it is that you clicked on an article about a game called Dungeon Siege III in the first place). The game's setting and art style are pretty generic. A once-great land, the kingdom of Ehb, has fallen into fractious in-fighting, and it's up to you as a member of the disgraced 10th Legion to restore order and people's faith.

Naturally, you do this by taking quests from townsfolk and bashing up skeletons and giant spiders in misty forests and dank cellars. The placeholder quest in the E3 demo of the game is called Find the Source of Evil in the Crypt. "We're trying to distil RPGs down to the very essence," says Obsidian chief executive Feargus Urquhart with a wry chuckle.

The good news is that Dungeon Siege III is a very, very attractive kind of generic. We watch Lucas, the lead character for the Guardian class of melee fighters, getting stuck in to his skittering arachnoid foes (we don't know what hardware's being used for this demo, but it's being played on an Xbox 360 controller). While he fights on his own, the game's presented from a fairly tight top-down view, a well-judged halfway house between the isometric perspective of action-RPG convention and a standard third-person action-game camera.

'Dungeon Siege III' Screenshot 2

In terms of atmosphere and colour palette, though, these paintings give you a good idea what to expect.

You don't see a lot of the world, then, but what you do see is lush, colourful, solid and sumptuously lit. The air sparkles with dust motes and there's a lovely, shallow-focus depth-of-field effect which, combined with a fair amount of vertiginous verticality in the level designs, makes the most of the unusual viewing angle. It's richly atmospheric and makes the environs seem very inviting to explore.

Your window onto Dungeon Siege III's world is also left pleasantly uncluttered by a very simple, clean user interface, and we're promised that you'll never encounter a loading screen once. For a game that just has a 2011 release window at present, it looks very slick, with even menus and inventories having a bold design and finished sheen worthy of Blizzard itself.

The Guardian has a few special abilities available, but he's also switching between one-handed and two-handed stances - the first dealing heavy one-on-one damage with his enormous sword, the second enabling him to cope better with large groups of enemies. By the look of his portrait in the bottom left, he's expending a fast-recharging stamina resource to fight. The action is lightly tactical, quite fast and seems to have a tactile crunch to it.

He picks up a companion for his quest, a rather stern-looking female Archon mage who uses potent but slow-moving flame spells. This happens via a conversation tree (choices cutely represented by the branches of an actual tree in the interface); Obsidian is known, of course, for its storytelling depth and flexibility, and regards this as the principal element it's bringing to Dungeon Siege III and this normally much more linear and less chatty end of the RPG spectrum.

The Archon acts as a capable AI companion at first, but then a second player presses start and immediately jumps in to control her in co-op, the camera snapping up to a loftier, more isometric-style view to give them both room. Co-op is central to Dungeon Siege III and Obsidian tells us that the game is entirely designed around it - although online multiplayer isn't confirmed yet, and locally it's only possible to control a companion character rather than bring a character of your own into someone else's game.

"We want the game to be about multiplayer, and we want it to be as easy as possible," says lead designer Nathaniel Chapman, noting that his girlfriend would watch him play Mass Effect 2 to follow the story, and wanted to be able to jump in and take control of Tali. Intriguingly, Obsidian is working on multiplayer aspects to the conversation system, too. "Multiplayer and single-player are not two separate games. They're totally integrated. That was a very important point for us," he says.

All the game's enemies and spells or abilities have been designed with the tactical interdependence of the classes in mind, and there are even explicit combos that can be executed by two classes in tandem, using each other's strengths to expose enemy weaknesses by forcing them into certain states. The classes, we're told, are designed for uniqueness over flexibility and will be pretty carefully defined, although you'll naturally still have some choice over skills as you level up.

The Guardian and Archon take on a large skeletal boss who summons crowds of minions in what looks like a fun, relatively tough fight where spatial awareness and crowd management are key. One of them dies and is resurrected by the other; any class can do this by standing next to them and holding the left bumper uninterrupted for a few seconds, Obsidian name-checking Left 4 Dead as an influence on this particular co-op dynamic. At the end of the fight, and the demo, is the one thing you really want to see in an action-RPG: a huge chest full of shiny loot. Yum.

'Dungeon Siege III' Screenshot 3

There won't be difficulty levels that crank up hit points, but there will be optional side-quests with more complex encounters that will be "really hard".

It's all admirably stripped-down and focused. It's also quite a long way from New Vegas and Alpha Protocol. "We've made really big, complicated RPGs," says Urquhart. "One of the other games that we're doing right now is 60,000 lines of dialogue... I don't want to say it's ponderous, that's the wrong word. But it's a different flavour. For Dungeon Siege, it's meant to be fun, with fun boss battles with lots of effects going on and all this crazy loot."

"Dungeon Siege is a fun, pick-up-and-play game and Obsidian makes deep, story-driven RPGs, and we really look at Dungeon Siege III as a hybrid of those two styles of game," adds Chapman. "You're still going to get a story, you're still going to get your companions and have dialogue with all of them - and you're still going to be playing an action-RPG."

There's a middle-ground to be found here: we ask if the game will go to the same extreme lengths as Alpha Protocol in the pursuit of Obsidian's mantra of "choice and consequence". "No, not at all," says Urquhart. "The idea is to have some very specific points in the story where you make these decisions, so you feel like it's your story and not just the story we're forcing down your throat. But we're still doing that," he jokes.

'Dungeon Siege III' Screenshot 4

There's nothing at all shared between character classes - animations, equipment (beyond some rings), items and abilities are all unique.

It's a balancing act, no doubt, but there's a considerable prize to be won. Blending fast-paced action gaming with the freedom, scale and intimate involvement in story of Western role-playing is just what's propelled Fallout and Mass Effect to such huge success in recent years.

Doing that in the trad fantasy context, with co-op as an additional hook, makes a lot of sense, and Obsidian strikes all the right notes in this E3 demo. Square Enix's choice looks canny indeed; perhaps this game could see the apprentice step out of its masters' shadows once and for all.

Dungeon Siege III will be released for PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 in 2011.

Comments (27) Latest comment 2 years ago

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  • mingster #1 2 years ago

    gonna have to be special to beat Diablo
  • technotica #2 2 years ago

    Or just come out before Diablo 3 and everyone will buy it to kill the time till D3 comes out :)
  • Miths #3 2 years ago

    Diablo 3 probably isn't out before 2014 (incidentally coinciding with the new release date for GT5 I expect to be announced around October :p), so there should be plenty of time for DSIII while we wait.

    I hope this turns out decent. I remember not liking Dungeon Siege 2 very much (and only played it briefly), but I spent a pretty substantial number of hours on the first one.
  • dudefella #4 2 years ago

    Let's hope Obsidian don't screw this up somehow, it sounds promising.
  • UncleLou #5 2 years ago

    I bet Obsidian farm out the development of Alpha Protocol 2, they're too busy doing other devs' sequels.
  • Shinetop #6 2 years ago

    Wish there were some screenshots... concept art looks promising, but so did Epic Mickey's...
  • ybfelix #7 2 years ago

    Find the Source of Evil in the Crypt

    really.
  • EraSerX #8 2 years ago

    want Keeper instead of Siege
  • sneetch #9 2 years ago

    I didn't like the second one as much as the first but still really enjoyed it, I like the sound of this. The management of the multi-character party (which I hope they don't dilute too much) distinguishes it sufficiently from Diablo III (which may or may not be released near it) that I'd get both from the sounds of it. Also the fact that this is on console means that it doesn't really have to "beat" Diablo, just be good, to make a killing.
  • velimirius #10 2 years ago

    I played both first and second,liked that long side quests like ones started in act 2 and finished somewhere in act 3 or 4,and story was great. I hope that there is still something left of that world there,otherwise ill be disappointed.

    Im going to play for sure Diablo3 but also ill play DS3 cuz i loved first 2,just dont screw it...
  • darc #11 2 years ago

    The rest of the world has since caught up, but when the original Dungeon Siege hit, I thought it was, by far, the most streamlined and intuitive UI/engine I'd ever seen for a video game. Just simple, pretty, flexible in the extreme. The story arc and game play got a little predictable after many hours of play, but the overall package was really an achievement for its time IMO.

    It's hard to see how they could possibly mess this up. Worst case scenario it will be more of the same, but co-op alone ought to make it worth picking up. And wow, it's still so pretty! Similar art direction brought into the HD age, can't complain about that.
  • AshTray #12 2 years ago

    Love DS 1 and 2.. Was really happy when they announced this. Until I read It's made by Obsidian, that It's coming for the consoles, It's co-op etc. :(
  • MeBrains #13 2 years ago

    this could be good. i quite like the hack 'n slash type of RPG. more than I do the FF's of this world...
  • Xardan #14 2 years ago

    Okay well after reading this i can tell obsidian are incompetent dullards and are set to ruin another franchise. Its a real shame as i loved dungeon siege 1 & 2. Pretty much all info about this rings alarm bells. New engine? New design philosophy and they want to make it as easy as possible? They think the franchise is about story? No no no no no! Who on earth are these people and who keeps giving them the opportunity to ravage and ruin so many franchises?!
  • UncleLou #15 2 years ago

    and they want to make it as easy as possible?

    I have no idea how it can possible be easier than DS was. The game literally played itself.

    Love action-RPG/loot-em-ups (probably my favourite genre), but I thought the Dungeon Siege games were really dull. A new design philosophy can only improve things.

    Not seen Obsidian ruin a franchise yet, either.
  • BigJonno #16 2 years ago

    The combination of hack and slash, action RPG with a hint of Obsidian talky-decision stuff sounds good to me. Plus couch co-op puts it instantly into my good graces.
  • Metalfish #17 2 years ago

    Er, they mean making co op play as easy as possible. As UncleLou states, making DS any easier is pretty much impossible.
  • Feanor #18 2 years ago

    I remember my wife asking me to get Dungeon Siege on our PC after it was hard to find, and I finally tracked a copy down for a reasonable price, but then she barely played it. Meh.
  • darc #19 2 years ago

    @notmyrealname - Neverwinter Nights 2 was an absolute disaster, we're on the same page there. Probably the most disappointing game I've ever purchased. But it has it's fans (or apologists, depending on how you look at it...)
  • UncleLou #20 2 years ago

    @notmyrealname - Neverwinter Nights 2 was an absolute disaster, we're on the same page there.

    The complete disaster was Neverwinter Nights 1, in my book, with probably the worst single-player campaign of any RPG ever. Absolutely horrible game. NWN 2 was pretty good.
  • Subquest #21 2 years ago

    another hand raised sheepishly to declare my love for DS2. I think I played it through 3 times in all. An up to date version of that would be just fine by me. Please keep the secret vaults, and the loose bricks / dodgy candlesticks etc that opened them! I'm a sucker for that shit.
  • Miths #22 2 years ago

    I think my favourite "Diablo clone" to date has been Titan Quest and its expansion. Great gameplay and beautiful graphics (which I suspect may still look pretty good even here three years later). And the greek mythology setting was also a definite plus for me.
  • Apaar #23 2 years ago

    Another _action_ rpg, yet again? Why is seemingly everyone so obsessed with making every game so action heavy? Even a developer that is capable of making those "ponderous", deeper experiences resorts to this repeatedly. RPGs should be allowed to be "ponderous", pause-heavy and/or turnbased more often than they currently are. Dragon Age is basically the only "ponderous" big budget roleplaying game we have seen in years. Making Fallout into a shooter-RPG and XCOM into an FPS are prime examples of sacrificing thoughtfullness in the name of action. This is a tiresome trend that impoverishes videogames as a form of entertainment/art.
  • man.the.king #24 2 years ago

    Long long ago, I played Dungeon Siege and really enjoyed it. I may get this one for my PS3 when it is at an affordable price (unless the reviews are really good, in which case it would get elevated to an insta-buy).
  • UncleLou #25 2 years ago

    Another _action_ rpg, yet again?

    No idea what you mean, this kind of action-RPG is as good as dead. Last truly great one was Titan Quest years ago. Fallout, X-Com etc. are totally different games altogether (the old ones as well as the new ones).

    Don't get me wrong, I love turn-based, story-heavy RPGs, but there can't be too many loot-em-ups in my book.
  • UncleLou #26 2 years ago

    Ah, right. Yeah, TL is alright, but it never had me that hooked.

    Whatever happened to Snowblind studios, anyway? I'd love a BG:DA/Champions of Norrath sequel.

    edit:

    Aha, Snowblind are doing a Lord of the Rings RPG. Hohum.
    Edited by 1 at 25/06/10 @ 13:39
  • darc #27 2 years ago

    "The complete disaster was Neverwinter Nights 1, in my book, with probably the worst single-player campaign of any RPG ever. Absolutely horrible game. NWN 2 was pretty good."

    I can see why you'd feel that way about NWN 1 - it was "lite" in the extreme, especially following so closely in the footsteps of games as great Baldur's Gate 2 and Planescape Torment. I think I enjoyed NWN1 because I just took it for what it was - a dumbed-down, crate-smashing 3D RPG. Sort of a middle ground between your Baldur's Gates and your Diablos. The thing was, the technology worked.

    With NWN 2, I saw the potential for a great game - it seemed a lot deeper, and it was a bit prettier and all, but it just wouldn't run on ANYTHING at the time, and even when it did the UI seemed sort of borked, with a really nutty camera and so on. It was just insanely off-putting for me, and I'd really looked forward to it. By the time Mask of the Betrayer came out, I was way too sour on the game to even try.

    "They should port games like planescape torment to xbl and psn, games with an actual story that goes somewhere, so the new generation can learn how to read and learn something different than just teabagging and calling names."

    :) I'm all for that! I'm replaying Torment on PC right now, with all the hi-res/widescreen patches that have since hit the web. I have to admit that my own attention span is not what it once was, but there's no question this game is one of the all-time greats. Def. in my personal top five.
    Edited by 2 at 26/06/10 @ 15:04