DualShock 3

By Kristan Reed Published 4 July, 2008

It's out here today, but is it worth 40 quid?

Speaking from experience, there's a lot you can do in nine months. You can make a baby, catch up on every single episode of 24, Sopranos, West Wing and Alias, and grow a mighty beard. Or you can make rude origami hats. Or, if your name's Sony, you can release the DualShock 3 in Japan and then make everyone in Europe wait for it. But like Jack Bauer during his year-long Chinese torture episode, or Sydney Bristow buried alive, we're simply not going to break. We've had decades of experience waiting for everything, which is probably why your correspondent loves Glastonbury so much: it offers endless queuing opportunities.

And this week, dear, hard-pressed, undervalued European gamer, you too can relive the spirit of Glastonbury by indulging in self-defeating queuing, mind-bogglingly inflated prices and questionable personal hygiene, as Sony's long-awaited DualShock 3 joypad finally goes on sale across Europe. This incredible event brings one of the most baffling delays in gaming history to an end, finally introducing the incredible concept of rumble to PlayStation 3 gaming, fully 15 months after the console's introduction to PAL territories.

Available for the princely sum of GBP 39.99, gamers have expressed everything from mild consternation to undignified rage over the price-tag of a controller which is, lest we forget, available on import (and Amazon sellers) for five or ten quid cheaper - including shipping. But, bleh, the whole rip-off Britain/Ireland/Europe debate is a short-circuit to doom and one we're certainly not going to solve by hanging around here cluttering up the word count. What's important is to guide you on what the controller's like to use, as well as any pertinent information on the many things that have and haven't been fixed since the release of the Sixaxis.

'DualShock 3' Screenshot 1

Dishy grey void sold separately.

The first thing you'll notice about the DualShock 3 controller is the fact it looks exactly like the Sixaxis in every conceivable way - with the exception being the presence of a DualShock 3 logo, shunting the original Sixaxis logo down half an inch so that it sits to the left of the USB connector port. Chin-stroking execs who earn more money than God probably sat around boardroom tables for an entire month deciding that. I digress.

Prised from its ludicrously secure plastic packaging by murderous scissors, the next discovery is that the DualShock 3 is considerably heavier than its cloudy sibling, meaning, if anything, it's now more effective as a blunt instrument. Don't fling it at the telly. While not quite as bulky as the generally loveable Xbox 360 wireless pad, its weight is now almost identical, giving it a more solid initial presence when you first pick it up.

In terms of its other physical features, Sony has once again passed up the opportunity to tweak the decade-old design introduced with the original DualShock back in 1997. That means that, yes, the rubber grib mouldings on the dual analogue sticks are back. While this is never an issue when the pads are shiny and new, any long-term PS2 owner will tell you that they have a tendency to work themselves loose after a while, either spinning around the plastic underneath them, or coming off completely. I find it odd in the extreme that Sony still hasn't found a more robust, longer-lasting solution.

In addition, those of you longing for a newly-refined approach to the d-pad, or unhappy with the Sixaxis' new analogue L2 and R2 triggers, will be out of luck. Sony's approach to joypads appears to be to evolve them as little as possible to cause the minimum amount of fuss from the user base (how ironic). One suspects that removing vibration in the first place had little to do with practicality and more to do with the ongoing Immersion case that was literally rumbling on at the time, but that's another story.

Another fairly obvious quirk that Sony has failed to fix with the DualShock 3 is the absence of any kind of discernible power-saving measures. Unlike the Wii remote or 360 pad, neither the Sixaxis or the new DualShock 3 will turn themselves off when left idle, meaning the pad's constantly draining its power at all times.

Equally irritating is the lack of a built-in synchronisation button - again, standard on the Wii and 360 controllers, but mystifyingly absent on both the Sixaxis and now the DualShock 3. If, like me, you're always misplacing USB cables (or taking them to work, breaking them, or casually lending them out), sometimes you find yourself completely unable to use the PS3 until you do find one in some dark corner of your cable breeding ground. Given the PS3's remote control can be easily synched wirelessly, why the heck can't the machine's own joypad?

With the various moans and niggles dispensed with, the actual in-game performance varies from very good to very poor, demonstrating, if anything, that much of the pad's potential is wrapped up in what individual developers want to get out of it. As you'll note from Wikipedia's handy list, there are an awful lot of existing games which already support rumble - many as a consequence of the pad having been released so long ago in other territories.

'DualShock 3' Screenshot 2

Overlord opened our eyes to the pad's throbbing potential.

Recently, I actually reviewed Overlord on PS3 using the DualShock 3 and was pleasantly surprised with how strong the vibration was, exploding my own myth that the pad didn't really have the same assured presence that the 360 frequently displays so ably. However, for whatever reason, several other developers have taken a completely contrary approach, with games such as MotorStorm featuring bizarrely weak effects which do very little to enhance the sense of immersion, and, in fact, draw attention to the weedy feedback transmitted to your palms. Some of this might be an attempt to conserve battery, of course, but it's not something that has ever stopped any 360 developer from transmitting road drill levels of vibration willy nilly.

Happily, for those of you lucky enough to own a backwardly compatible PS3, the added bonus of owning a DualShock 3 is its uniform vibration compatibility with all PS2 titles - particularly crucial for certain games that rely on vibration, like Splinter Cell with its lock-picking. In case you were wondering, yes, Sixaxis tilt functionality remains, but whether you'll make much use of it is another matter entirely.

All told, vibration is one of those undervalued background effects that you never really notice until it's taken away, and Sony completely misjudged the mood of gamers by dismissing it as a last-generation feature. Thankfully, the company has seen the error of its ways and put the feature back in - but at a substantial premium that many gamers will balk at paying.

The majority will argue that it should have been in there from the beginning, but it wasn't, and Sony has done little to make the situation any easier to stomach by taking so long to rectify the situation, and then following up the debacle by releasing it without any useful modifications and at a price most people will resent having to pay. So yes, it's yet another PR gaffe from Sony, but given that this now incorporates most of the things we wanted it's probably one that will burn brightly for a few days and then fade into memory. I'd give it about nine months.

DualShock 3 is out now and costs GBP 39.99.

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About Kristan Reed

Kristan is a former editor of Eurogamer, dad, Stone Roses bore and Norwich City supporter who sometimes mutters optimistically about Team Silent getting back together.

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  • GamesProgrammer Verified Games Team Programmer, Eutechnyx Ltd. #1 4 years ago

    Gameplay, the first website i looked on are selling it for 32.99, so that £40 rrp is obviously not as fixed as it normally is on hardware.

  • stephenb #2 4 years ago

    Too expensive for something I dont miss.

  • Gaol #3 4 years ago

    Usual fanboy bait spread throughout the article.

    The writers here really are flame whores.

  • J.C #4 4 years ago

    No its not. but if you want rumble their you go.

  • Killerbee #5 4 years ago

    It's expensive if you were to go out and replace a complete set of Sixaxes, but in terms of picking one up as a second controller (or rather, 'first' controller and demoting your Sixaxis to being the spare), the internet prices - £32.99 or so - are probably about right.

    The main gripe is why the hell has it taken Sony so long to release it in Europe?

  • the_dudefather #6 4 years ago

    reading the article you would think that a dual shock controller murdered the writer's entire family or something

  • KayJay #7 4 years ago

    This is possibly the biggest load of tripe I have had the misfortune to read in a long time.

    EDIT: the reviewer just sounds like one of the rabid Fanboys in the various DS3 threads, It just so painful to read.
    Edited by 2 at 04/07/08 @ 09:04

  • Dizzy #8 4 years ago

    "This incredible event brings one of the most baffling delays in gaming history to an end"

    Not really..; Sony just had to get rid of the old stock. Then again they could have given ET some company in that landfill ;)

  • americorloliveira #9 4 years ago

    so much anger, cool down and enjoy the summer.
    Edited by 2 at 04/07/08 @ 09:06

  • berelain #10 4 years ago

    Actually, the article comments on every single issue I have with Sony's controller design. They really did miss a trick with the SixAxis pads, and haven't taken the chance to fix anything with the DS3. Seriously, the analogue is loose, the L2 / R2 triggers are a joke, and the lack of auto-off ability just eats into battery power for no justifiable reason.

    Seems to me Sony couldnt think what to do with their pad and were instead content to just let things lie.

    and the £40RRP is absolutely laughable.

    I'll still buy one of the bloody things, though, if only because the nigh-weightless SixAxis feels like its going to fly off every time I pick it up.

  • Moonprince #11 4 years ago

    And this week, dear, hard-pressed, undervalued European gamer

    oh do fo that's pathetic

  • Steroyd #12 4 years ago

    No controller is worth £40.

    Well... except those that comes with a game.

  • KayJay #13 4 years ago

    I don't get the Charging & Sync comments at the top of page two...

    Dont you just press the PS button to Sync.
    And if the DS3 is on then shouldn't the PS3 be erm'... on, therefore you would expect the DS3 to lose charge.
    If you want the turn the DS3 of the either turn the PS3 of or press the PS button and select Turn controller of. I don't get it..

    I have had 4, 5, 6+ hour sessions on Warhawk, RFOM, GT5 & Uncharted etc.. and Charge or Sync have never been an issue.

  • DFawkes #14 4 years ago

    I remember Sonys first analog pad for PSone had longer handles and concaved plastic ends on the sticks. I really liked that one, then they shortened the handles and stuck rubber onto the sticks. No idea why, I liked it the way it was.

    I do like the triggers of the PS3 pad,and the d-pad is nicer than the one of the 360 pad, but the 360 pad is still better overall IMHO.

  • Skurmedel #15 4 years ago

    So being critical about a particular product is fanbaiting?

    What would they say? If they were defensive and very mild in their remarks, it wouldn't convey the rubbishness of it, you might not agree with their opinion, but that is not the point either.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 09:16

  • gaselite #16 4 years ago

    I'd love it if you read the strapline and clicked through to the article and all the article said was 'No.'

  • bioreit #17 4 years ago

    I think the article raises very good points about the controller. Why hasn't it changed at all? It isn't a perfect design by any means - merely functional.

    The point about the sticks is spot-on, too - whereas Microsoft have a blind spot when it comes to making d-pads (they have too much lateral travel, huge dead spots and often recognise incorrect moves - useless, in a word), Sony are inept at making robust analogue sticks. This even extends to the Sony Ericsson phones - much as I love them and always get another one, their joysticks seem to be shipped out with a six-month shelf-life. And that's even now, after I use every single keypad shortcut I know about.

    Doesn't stop me buying them, though. And I think that's what Krudster is getting at. For all the technical and PR problems associated with the DS3, for all the ridiculous delays, the DS3 is worth buying.

  • robg #18 4 years ago

    I suppose to all of the Sony uber-fanboys, the middleground looks like extremism. The article was a touch pessimistic, but tbh there are enough constant disappointments, about-turns and trumped-up, badly delivered promises with the PS3 to make anyone pessimistic.

  • onezeonx #19 4 years ago

    had mine for 10 months or so.......wouldnt go back to old ones now

  • berelain #20 4 years ago

    "Is that really true that you can't sync a PS3 controller without a USB cable? I find that quite shocking TBH, as the PS3 generally is very good with peripheral integration. "

    Yep. So if you take your controller to a friends house, you'll need to plug it in with a USB cable first before it'll work- there's no way to sync wirelessly at all.

    "Dont you just press the PS button to Sync.
    And if the DS3 is on then shouldn't the PS3 be erm'... on, therefore you would expect the DS3 to lose charge.
    If you want the turn the DS3 of the either turn the PS3 of or press the PS button and select Turn controller of. I don't get it.."

    Yes, but if you're watching a lenghty cutscene *cough*MGS4*cough* or just aren't using the controller for a while- say if you're watching a video- it'd be nice if it turned itself off after a period of inactivity to conserve battery power. The 360 and Wii controllers do.

    "I do like the triggers of the PS3 pad,and the d-pad is nicer than the one of the 360 pad"

    You do? Ye gods, why? They're practically unusable as analogue triggers =/ But the d-pad is leaps and bounds ahead of the 360 pads.

  • Garulon #21 4 years ago

    "Remember when we replaced our ENORMOTRONIC GIGANOTROLLERS on the original Xbox with S-type controllers? "

    I loved the Fat Controller dammit!

  • Krelle #22 4 years ago

    or rather, the "score" should say" No".
    Think of everyone who cant/wont read the whole story. Now they dont know which side to stand on.

  • GamerG #23 4 years ago

    Cant believe people are complaining about a review for meerly pointing out its drawbacks, what else were they supposed to do?

    Its expensive, it doesn't auto turn off, you need a lead to sync it etc these are all completely valid points!

    My only problem with the review is that it give sthe impression that the PS3 can play PS2 games when you haven't been able to buy a PS3 that plays PS2 games in Europe for almost a year!
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 09:29

  • bad09 #24 4 years ago

    I don't get the synch issue either, what would a synch option achieve? It's not like the 360 which you can synch to a PC or Wiimote. It works exactly like it should.

    Love people getting upset at anti-sony EG. Sorry guys your god Sony messed up big on this it's not EGs fault. Were you all complaining when EG reported on 360 failure rates?

    To be honest farticusmaximus has a good point with the old Xbox, I didn't think of it as I came to Xbox quite late so got the new pads. Sony did take the piss with PS1 as well. The real problem people have this time though is we all know Sony didn't put rumble in this time because of legal battles which is different to improving on your controllers.

  • dan13l #25 4 years ago

    @GamerG

    "for those of you lucky enough to own a backwardly compatible PS3"

    How does that mislead you into getting "sthe impression that the PS3 can play PS2 games"?
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 09:34

  • FladgeMangle #26 4 years ago

    It seems to me that EG have completely lost the ability to appraise anything without comparing it to something else. I also get the impression that, generally, the writers on this site play Xbox 360 for fun and PS3 for work, which results in slanted opinions.

    EG, I personally don't give a flying fuck how the DS3 compares to the 360 pad. If I had one I'm sure I'd know what it's like and nothing you say will cause me to use the PS3 controller with envy. It's pretty much useless information asn you're either preaching to the converted or flame baiting.

  • chrisjm #27 4 years ago

    2 pages to say 'no' lol

  • SeesThroughAll #28 4 years ago

    My only problem with the review is that it give sthe impression that the PS3 can play PS2 games

    well, mine can!

  • Andy247 #29 4 years ago

    Me too. Fat Controller rocked.......

    ....cue the Thomas the Tank Engine theme
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 09:41

  • Shinji #30 4 years ago

    It seems to me that EG have completely lost the ability to appraise anything without comparing it to something else.

    Good lord, it's almost like you're starting to understand how this whole criticism and reviewing business works.

  • berelain #31 4 years ago

    @bad09 - "I don't get the synch issue either, what would a synch option achieve? It's not like the 360 which you can synch to a PC or Wiimote. It works exactly like it should. "

    It'd mean you wouldnt need to keep a cable lying around which, for a *wireless* controller, would seem to be a good idea...

    @ FladgeMangle - "It seems to me that EG have completely lost the ability to appraise anything without comparing it to something else. "

    But how can you form an opinion on something if you *DONT* compare it to what else it out there? Ignoring the competition is just blind faith.


  • onyxbox #32 4 years ago

    I've had a DS3 for some time now and I think it's great. I think a lot of this article is a little negative because the EG staff are used to (and use) the 360 controller more. Anything other than 360 would feel wrong.

    I love the way EG are reviewing the DS3 by comparing it to the 360 :-), let me just say this... Most PS3 owners aren't interested! They have a PS3! They're not going to go out and buy a 360 controller to see what the differences are... now if you could use a 360 controller on a PS3 then there would be some reason to this type of constant comparison but as far as I'm aware you can't use a 360 controller on a PS3.

    I personally like the symmetry of the DS3, the D pad is very good and I can reach every button without shifting my hand at all. I think the triggers could be better but at least they don't squeak all the time. I've never had the issue regarding the analogue stick grip on any Sony controller so I don't know what the writer is talking about.

    And let's not forget that you don't need to buy a charging kit for DS3 or batteries every week.

    As for the re-sync... isn't there a little hole to push a pin/paperclip into to do that.

    All in all... I got the feeling EG are baiting again!

  • berelain #33 4 years ago


    It seems to me that EG have completely lost the ability to appraise anything without comparing it to something else.

    Good lord, it's almost like you're starting to understand how this whole criticism and reviewing business works.

    Damnit! Said what I wanted to say better than I did!

  • SeesThroughAll #34 4 years ago

    Eurogamer *hearts* the 360

  • stampax #35 4 years ago

    too expensive, and im annoyed at it not being included originally, and annoyed at having to wait and being treated poorly in europe as always.
    BUT - i want it, i miss the rumble effects when playing first person shooters, so i'll buy and give Sony my money anyway.

  • Dizzy #36 4 years ago

    "So yet another entire article dedicated to bashing Sony in sublte, ye obvious ways. "

    Yea because everything Sony does is fantastic and cannot be criticized. Put them against the wall damn commie EG rebels!

    /calls in the death star

  • SpyroViper #37 4 years ago

    I guess the writer is a complete nonce. The sync issue is not an issue. I carry around my USB cable all the time, I have never lost it, misplaced it or anything. My controller has been charged and runnign for almost 2 weeks without a single charge and I play every night for around 4 hours. Which is very good, considering Xbox 360 wireless pads use batteries! lmao.

  • mikeck #38 4 years ago

    I had one in my hands this morning, feels great...HOWEVER, you don't get a sodding cable with the controller to plug it in, therefore £40 is FAR TOO expensive for this controller!

  • Putty-Man #39 4 years ago

    Are the triggers on the DS3 the same as dual shocks of old?

    I would point to the fact they have such a small travel as a big disadvantage, esp for driving games where throttle control is so important.

  • SeesThroughAll #40 4 years ago

    Is that really true that you can't sync a PS3 controller without a USB cable?

    Actually, that's complete bullshit. All the time I've had my PS3, both my sixaxis and DS3 have never had any sync problem (save the sixaxis that once synched out, while it actually was plugged, ironically enough). I have always only used the USB to recharge either of them.

  • Starbow #41 4 years ago

    "I loved the Fat Controller dammit!"

    Wow, who knew you had a penchent for over-weight railway operators.

  • bad09 #42 4 years ago

    @ berelain

    Wait I think I get it now. I only have one pad at the mo (been waiting for DS3) a friend who owns PS3 came round with a pad and if I remember we had to plug his pad in with the wire to get my PS3 to pick it up.

    But once I get another pad that's not an issue and the cable is close anyway for charging (just like the 360 one)
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 09:51

  • berelain #43 4 years ago

    Is that really true that you can't sync a PS3 controller without a USB cable?

    Actually, that's complete bullshit. All the time I've had my PS3, both my sixaxis and DS3 have never had any sync problem (save the sixaxis that once synched out, while it actually was plugged, ironically enough). I have always only used the USB to recharge either of them.

    Er, no it isnt. If you take a controlelr to someone elses PS3, you need to use a USB cable to sync it, and likewise to sync it back with your own PS3 when you're done.

  • Krelle #44 4 years ago

    "I carry around my USB cable all the time"
    Really? As what? A necklace?

  • KayJay #45 4 years ago

    You only have to sync the controller once and come on are you telling me I am the only person with about 50 mini usb cable lying around.

    berelain Wrote: "Yes, but if you're watching a lenghty cutscene *cough*MGS4*cough* or just aren't using the controller for a while- say if you're watching a video- it'd be nice if it turned itself off after a period of inactivity to conserve battery power. The 360 and Wii controllers do."

    Right, Take out MGS and lets face it what other games would you want to turn the controller of mid game... And if you have played MGS4 you would know that its probably a good idea to keep hold of the controller for Flashbacks, using your little robot (Cant remember his name) to go and find tracks for your iPod and im sure everyone has used the d pad to zoom in the various low cut tops worn by the female characters in the game.
    Even then as far as im concerned the DS3 has a really long charge life. You certainly don't need to go out and get a play and charge kit for £15 maybe a USB Cable but thats it...
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 09:54

  • SeesThroughAll #46 4 years ago

    Yes, it is!
    The very first time I synched my DS3, hitting PS was enough.

    The only time I needed to be wired, was on the OS very first boot (understandable).

  • brockenheimer #47 4 years ago

    Great article I thought, and in the spirit of Glastonbury (which was fooking ace this year - sunshine!!) please can I nick the wonderful name "Dishy Grey Void" for any future band I might set up, in the unlikely event that I develop some musical talent?

  • NorfolkNClue #48 4 years ago

    I prefer the heft of the DS3. As for the 'no auto off' option - at what point do you need to turn the pad off while playing games? If you're on about watching movies, get the BD remote. It's 12 pounds, and is pretty much essential.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 09:54

  • mossychops001 #49 4 years ago

    YES!

  • bag-in-box #50 4 years ago

    my DS3 triggers (japan import) are way better than my launch sixaxis. less mushy, lesser force needed to push them down. same goes for the sticks, no dead space at all which my sixaxis have so it has a much smoother movement.
    And the rumble in warhawk is so so good.. :)

  • berelain #51 4 years ago

    @kj66246

    You only have to sync the controller once and come on are you telling me I am the only person with about 50 mini usb cable lying around.

    Unless you take it to a friends house. And apparently so, yes. I have exactly 2. One for the PS3, and one at work for my phone.

    And actually, I was mainly referring to watching videos. MGS4 was a bad example since you do, indeed, really need to keep the controller nearby. But I dont have a Ps3 remote, so I use the pad to control any dvds or vids I watch on the Ps3.

    The pads do have exceptionally long charge lives, though. I use rechargeable batteries in my 360 pads (no expensive cable for me) but I do wish there was a way to replace the battery in the PS3 pads. I worry that once the internal battery goes (and it will, eventually, they always do) I'll have to fork out for a whole new pad.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 09:56

  • berelain #52 4 years ago

    @ bag-in-box "my DS3 triggers (japan import) are way better than my launch sixaxis. less mushy, lesser force needed to push them down. same goes for the sticks, no dead space at all which my sixaxis have so it has a much smoother movement. "

    Really? Thats good to hear :) Something to look forward to there at least then :D

  • NorfolkNClue #53 4 years ago

    Berelain - Sony are claiming to replace controllers with dead batteries for free. I'm not sure if anyone has taken up their offer yet, or indeed if Sony have reneged upon it. I think the potential press storm alone would prevent them from doing that.

  • berelain #54 4 years ago

    @ Norfolk'n'Clue
    Berelain - Sony are claiming to replace controllers with dead batteries for free. I'm not sure if anyone has taken up their offer yet, or indeed if Sony have reneged upon it. I think the potential press storm alone would prevent them from doing that.

    Really? I hadn't heard that, its good if they are doing, though. Im sure the batteries will last for a good while yet, but its like any fully enclosed piece of technology, I do wonder about replacing parts that go wrong.

  • Tomo #55 4 years ago

    Some of the comments in here are hilarious.

  • TheJuriel #56 4 years ago

    I never got the whole hoohaa about vibration. The controller shaking a bit never adds to my immersion, so I just always turn it off in the options.

  • Dizzy #57 4 years ago

    Top selling PS3 product on Play gives a hint:

    http://ww w.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4...

  • Xerx3s #58 4 years ago

    Don't get the price issue. It seems fair and about the same that you pay for a similar deal from the others.

  • drumbaby #59 4 years ago

    Amateurish article. Shame.

  • berelain #60 4 years ago

    @ Dizzy - those are awesome.

  • WinstonChurchill #61 4 years ago

    Wait a minute... Rock Band gets announced with an RRP of £180 and people decree EA to be hung upside down from their underwear but Sony announce a controller with an RRP of £40 and people (well, those who, for some reason, feel an affinity with a Japanese corporation) say "you can buy it cheaper on the Internet! EG is biased!"?

    I love games but, god, do I hate gamers.

  • tobsen #62 4 years ago

    What nonsense is that. Of course the PS3 pad has a sync button, it sits right there in the middle of the controller.

  • systems #63 4 years ago

    I thought it was a good article (the best articles are those which you already agree with). The points were entirely valid, so I don't see why people here take everything personally. You sync with a cable (not with Wii or 360) and the controller doesn't power off (does with Wii and 360). The L2 and R2 triggers are easy to slip off (hence the GioTek Real Triggers, which are great).

    On the plus side though, the D-pad is very good (360 is pure penis) and it's nice to have the weight of the controller back. Rumble in Uncharted really makes the game and I'm glad I never had to play it without it.

    Note that the DS3 uses the same battery as the Sixaxis, but the power drain is ten times the amount (300mA, not 30mA).
    http://en .wikipedia.org/wiki/DualShock#D...
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 10:30

  • mingster #64 4 years ago

    All the complaints in this article are completely correct factually.
    If anyone things they are wrong then you ar unfortunately blinded by sony's hype machine.

  • will. #65 4 years ago

    I got mine from Japan for £24 (£20 for the control and £4 P&P)

    Gotta say though that it doesn't feel any better than the last one and now that it has rumble shaking it makes me feel like it's about to fall apart.

  • adamamosa #66 4 years ago

    When will somebody make a ps3 pad where the left analogue is in the right place!!! I refuse to get a ps3 until there is one!

  • gamzino #67 4 years ago

    You are a pretty good writer.. ever consider a career as a games journalist?

  • Weezer #68 4 years ago

    Wow! Official: Longest Joypad Review Ever!

  • bad09 #69 4 years ago

    "Did this really warrant 2 pages though? Nope. It was written to fuel fanboy flamewars, and Eurogamer knew it, and positively encourage it."

    It seems to have worked....


    "2 fucking pages for a gamepad that came out in 2007. "

    Everywhere else........

  • themorganator #70 4 years ago

    Really good article in my opinion, and I don't really understand how people can criticize the review when there's nothing but realistic fact present. I applaud console loyalty, but failing to recognize the errors of your chosen console is blind faith. Sony have shat all over EU gamers.

    15 months from launch and we finally get rumble????

    Is this when the next generation officially starts?
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 10:48

  • StanleyPointLarge #71 4 years ago

    Ooohhh! It was you I saw at Glastonbury after watching Dan's band. I've only just twigged.

    Hope you had fun, I obviously did, I can't even remember people who are introduced to me :p

  • monkie_king #72 4 years ago

    themorganator: no, this is when the last generation officially starts. In Europe anyway, the last gen started elsewhere some months ago.

    This is failing.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 10:52

  • Spydy #73 4 years ago

    Ahhh, the usual poor journalism from Eurogamer never fails to depress.

  • DrDamn #74 4 years ago

    I'll not be picking these up anytime soon. I've got two controllers already and really don't miss rumble as much as I thought I would. The price is actually fine all things considered and comparable to other manufacturers.

    The reason I won't pick one up is because they've missed a good couple of tricks to improve the controller and I'll wait around to see whether this split controller ever materialises. There are a couple of things which I feel makes the PS3 controller one of the best - d-pad and symmetry of the sticks, but the 360 controller is better in stick sensitivity/control, triggers and general feel. I think it's time for Sony to progress their pad a bit and this was a good opportunity missed.

  • DrDamn #75 4 years ago

    Oh RE: Farticus question on Syncing. Intial sync of the controller may still require connection by cable. Not that big an issue as with the rechargeable battery built in as standard everyone should have a cable handy all the time. In my experience its actually a more reliable method of syncing than faffing with extra sync buttons on the machine and controller. It's quick and immediate and no more hassle.

  • peterfll #76 4 years ago

    I hate Kristan and EG for this. I can't believe you'd write such bile induced filth. Poor Sony. In protest, I've ordered an iMac to replace my M$ Widows riddled PC, made love to my PS3 and burnt my Wii (as well as my bra).

  • bitesize #77 4 years ago


    hmmm, interesting - the people complaining that the article sounds like a fanboy's rant: gaol, banfoi, arbiter, drumbaby... what do those guys have in common d'you think? ;-)

    can't beleive anyone could possibly defend the dualshock, the rest of the open-minded gaming world thinks it's the worst controller ever (apart from the jaguar) - the sticks especially are awful. the 360 controller on the other hand, is widely regarded as one of the best (apart from the shitty d-pad). obviously they're gonna compare the two...

  • aidey6 #78 4 years ago

    I've read shorter actual GAME review it's just a pad ffs, surely a quarter of a page; max. It's just a Six Axis with rumble added, which Sony have priced at £40 rrp end of.

  • Lexx87 #79 4 years ago

    Why why why why must you people froth at the mouths when this website comments on the bad stuff about...anything? My god! People tell me I react a little too much to the idiots on here, but I really do want to strangle them all.

  • bad09 #80 4 years ago

    @ bitesize

    I wouldn't say it's the worst controller ever. I think it's problem is it's been around too long personally I was surprised Sony stuck with it last gen let alone now, although the added sixaxis is cool for uncharted and turning the camo off in cuts scenes on MGS4.

    360 best all round pad ever (alright d-pad sucks), but DS is close behind it.

  • IronCladChicken #81 4 years ago

    It's official - The PS3 owners are this generations biggest whiney pussies

  • yupyup #82 4 years ago

    ...Sony completely misjudged...

    Pretty much Sony's outcome for the PS3

  • Daymare #83 4 years ago

    "hmmm, interesting - the people complaining that the article sounds like a fanboy's rant: gaol, banfoi, arbiter, drumbaby... what do those guys have in common d'you think? ;-)"

    Touche' :)

  • septimus #84 4 years ago

    FFS no one will pay £40.

    Been using DS3 since it's release and like the Sixaxis I've only had battery life that trounces my Wii controller and 360 controllers when using recharge packs, no sync issues or lag.

    Another EG triumph 360 supporting.

  • bitesize #85 4 years ago

    I wouldn't say it's the worst controller ever.

    ok, maybe slight exaggeration. i really hate the dualshock tho. probably just cos i been using one at work for years (both for ps2 and for pc-via-usb) and i really thought i'd have seen the last of it by now...

    the jaguar joypad was the pinnacle of joypad evolution, way ahead of its time and still yet to be surpassed

    are you serious?? wow, i guess you proved your point that everyone has a different preference, never met anyone who liked the jag controller before (and i did really like the console) - liked having all the extra buttons, but the rest of the controller was bobbins.

    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 11:22

  • Dizzy #86 4 years ago

    "Been using DS3 since it's release and like the Sixaxis I've only had battery life that trounces my Wii controller and 360 controllers when using recharge packs, no sync issues or lag. "

    That is because Bluray playback doesn't use a lot of battery power ;) It is also immune to lag.

    /gets coat

  • samaran #87 4 years ago

    i'm pretty sure the 'turning itself off' issue is something you'd expect to be sorted by firmware, not a new controller.

  • SeesThroughAll #88 4 years ago

    i'm pretty sure the 'turning itself off' issue is something you'd expect to be sorted by firmware, not a new controller.

    Yes. Try reasoning that with people who actively looking for ways to criticise the controller, because they appear to have a mission against the manufacturer...

  • DrDamn #89 4 years ago

    @Zerolight
    The trigger add-ons do go some way to helping with that but do have an unfortunate consequence of appearing to make them more sensitive to accidental presses.

  • Bitkari #90 4 years ago

    £40?.. srsly?

  • Darren #91 4 years ago

    I'm surprised EG managed to write a two-page review of the DualShock 3 but when you read it it's more about what Sony DIDN'T do with it. For me, it's a fine pad, marred by loose analogue sticks and horrid triggers (thankfully this can be redeemed somewhat by using clip on ones that curve outwards). The DS3 still has the best D-pad of any of the current three consoles, which makes navigating menus and entering text a joy compared with the 360 (unless you use the chat pad for the latter) plus its flatter face buttons make for more comfortable lengthy game sessions than the 360's controller. It really is about time Sony updated the design though; what was great back in 1998 really isn't so great in 2008 IMO.

  • Retroid #92 4 years ago

    No auto power-down sucks arse.

    Back when I first got my PS3, I decided to update Motorstorm. A 200mb+ 'update' which included extra stuff I didn't want, but meh. I was getting it anyway.

    Problem was.... it was taking almost three hours to get to 50%. The controller wasn't fully charged so I decided I'd best knock it off before it turned itself off. Turning off the SixAxiS quit the download and returned me to the XMB.

    To say I was 'unimpressed' with the sheer fuckwitted stupidity of that was a massive understatement!

  • SwedBear #93 4 years ago

    Amazing. Just amazing. Fanboys getting upset by a Gamepad review.....
    And even more amazing, the points rasied are valid (and yes, I have one imported from Japan, a nice white one) and yet fanboys complain.

    Re: syncing. It is a pain in the butt when you take the controller to friends. yes, we all have USB-cables lying around, I know I usually have a bunch, but it seems ALWAYS when i forgot to bring one we cannot find one at my friends house. So why is raising this isssue and wondering why Sony could not just make it much easier to do the first sync without a bloody cable fanboy baiting?

    And for the charging. This is also bloody annoying. I often let my PS3 be turned on, either to watch a movie or to Fold or just stand there downloading something. I almost every time forget to turn off my controller and trust me, the charge does NOT hold for weeks when you do this often, especially when it is turned on over night. I get far more battery time from my 360-pads as they understand how to conserve power. In fact, I often pause my games, both on PS3 and 360, and go do other stuff (eat, talk in the phone etc.) and again I almost always forget to turn the controllers off and presto - empty battery.

    It's a nice pad with it's pro's and con's and while I'm not regretting getting it it's not realy that amazing compared to the original DS. I still prefer the rumble on the 360 to the rumble on the DS3. The D-pad of course though is much better but other than that I think the 360-pad has better triggers and in my hands it is far more comfortable when playin for extended periods (but that I think will be very personal for each person).

  • Darren #94 4 years ago

    @Retroid - It really is worthwhile picking up the PS3 BD remote and using that for navigating the XMB as I do. I put some batteries in mine when I bought it last March and despite being used an awful lot, including being used for watching BD and DVDs, it is still showing 2 out of 3 bars on the battery indicator. That's after nearly 16 months of use!!! It only costs £20 and it's brilliant. It also has an eject button so you never have to leave grubby fingerprints on your lovely shiny PS3 (yeah, I know you can do that from the XMB now but at the time I bought my PS3 you couldn't)! :)

  • Retroid #95 4 years ago

    I might get a remote at some point, I fancy the idea of using that more than controllers once I get more BRs.

  • johnnybrn #96 4 years ago

    Crikey, handbags at dawn

    I want to see a match like Uwe Boll oneto decide who has the better console.

    I nominate Arbiter in the PS3 corner and Farticus in Xbox corner!

  • #97 4 years ago

    £40 quid. Where the fuck do they shop, Harrods?

  • Mister_G #98 4 years ago

    Much cheaper than 360 pads, if you factor in the hidden cost of buying batteries :o)

  • monkie_king #99 4 years ago

    Wii hands?

  • Olemak #100 4 years ago

    DS3... D-layStation 3! :D

    Or is that an old joke?

    I'm a PS3 owner myself, but I still thought the pun was funny enough to post. Food for the hatebots.

  • phatb0y #101 4 years ago

    Fanbait.

    Now with added vibration.

  • BobsUncle #102 4 years ago

    Got mine from the states for 25 quid. The 360 controller beats it hands down in every possible way.

    I've noticed I couldn't sync wirelessly either, I kept pressing the button going "But my 360 one does it". So I had to connect the stupid little cable. Which is also fucking useless if you need to recharge and play at the same time, plus it doesn't recharge while the console is turned off. Which the 360 does.

    The 'triggers' have a rubbish action and shape, the sticks are domed so your fingers slip off and it's un-ergonomic. The original Dual Analogue pad on the PS1 was better than this pile of shite.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #103 4 years ago

    Seriously guys, if you don't like this place then kindly fuck off elsewhere.

    There was nothing wrong with that review! It was full of information, had some targeted criticisms and it compared the controller with other controllers on the market (360 AND Wii). It's perfectly valid to point out what other companies are doing with their controllers in comparison, even if they're not available for your system. Is it not fair to point out that Porsche have PSM in their 911's when reviewing a similar car?

    It's really getting quite tedious now.

    Personally I loved the Saturn pad and then the Gamecube pad, but the 360 pad is the best I've used so far (apart from the shitty D-Pad). Never used a DS3 but I've used my DS2 (and the sixaxis) lots and the issues for me are, in order:

    3) Quiet angular body to hold comfortably compared to the GC/DC/360 pad. Not a biggy.
    2) Preferred the triggers of the above 3 pads.
    1) I always felt the analog sticks where in the most god awful place ever! Especially for my small hands it puts my thumbs in a less comfortable position compared to the slightly higher position of the other 3. Add to that sweaty thumbs on slippery domed sticks and it's my biggest gripe.

    If you care to pick holes in those points, be my guest - I couldn't give a monkey's left bollock what your opinion is when all you do is complain about a review for criticising your mum...sorry I mean Sony. I'm comparing my DS2 (which is still a perfectly usable pad) to other pads, and I've used almost all of them in the last 25 years.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 13:04

  • Kropotkin #104 4 years ago

    I've heard that the strength of the rumble is more like a buzz when compared to the the 360. Is this up to the developers or is it a hard ware issue?
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 13:08

  • FladgeMangle #105 4 years ago

    I'm a bit late a replying to my critics, because I've been working and that.

    Reviewing something by use of constant comparison as opposed to pragmatic appraisal is basically lazy and in the case of this particular review, inappropriate considering the XBox controller isn't a competitor to the Dualshock 3 as it's doesn't work on PS3.

    Compare it to the Mad Katz stuff or the orignial sixaxis if you really must, but using this review as another excuse for letting us all know that you (EG) believe the 360 is a bit better than the PS3 is just making you look unprofessional.

  • Dizzy #106 4 years ago

    "Reviewing something by use of constant comparison as opposed to pragmatic appraisal is basically lazy "

    Errrr????

    Make some sense man!

  • monkie_king #107 4 years ago

    FladgeMangle, so by your logic, a review of Uncharted couldn't mention that its cover system is inferior to Gears of War, because they're not competing products?

    The DS3 review is comparing a new controller with other state-of-the-art controllers, and it is found wanting. Just because it's your only option on the PS3, that doesn't automatically make it a good pad.

  • onyxbox #108 4 years ago

    Shinji wrote:Good lord, it's almost like you're starting to understand how this whole criticism and reviewing business works.

    Bollocks, the DS3 is aimed at people who already own a PS3 so why the f*ck are you comparing it to the 360's? The audience who are considering buying the DS3 are only interested in one thing... How does it differ from the old one.

    If you say the D Pad is better than the 360's it doesn't mean jack shit to a PS3 oweber trying to evaluate how good or improved the controller is.

    I'm only getting emotional about all this because there was a time where I really valued the opinion of EG and more and more I just see this constant baiting for fanboy activity.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 13:41

  • mkreku #109 4 years ago

    But.. the cover system in Gears of War sucked..? I couldn't run away from the Berserker because my stupid fat-necked character would get sucked into any and every obstacle I was trying to run past! I don't understand why people would need THAT much help seeking cover..

  • monkie_king #110 4 years ago

    So it's not relevant that Sony has missed yet another opportunity to sort the sticks out? Or that the triggers are still all wrong? If you're only comparing to the Sixaxis then you have no frame of reference for how bad those aspects are.

    mkreku: random example, I don't actually know which one has better cover.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 13:45

  • Moonprince #111 4 years ago

    I'm only getting emotional about all this because there was a time where I really valued the opinion of EG and more and more I just see this constant baiting for fanboy activity.

    Try meeting them in person. Opinion -100!

  • bad09 #112 4 years ago

    To be honest after a while you get used to the triggers. I do prefer 360 but after using sixaxis for a while I don't really notice a problem with the triggers. First time I tried the pad though it did feel wrong.

  • Dizzy #113 4 years ago

    "Bollocks, the DS3 is aimed at people who already own a PS3 so why the f*ck are you comparing it to the 360's? "

    Because products need to be compared so buyers know if a company is selling you a quality product based on the current market trends. Yes even if those other product have no real relevance for you.

    Same goes for lenses of cameras. Why do reviewers compare a Nikon lens to a Canon one???? Because people wanne know if "their" company is giving them value for money.

    This squirming and excuses are starting to get annoying now guys. Take it like men!
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 13:51

  • samaran #114 4 years ago

    i don't know, i'm pretty sure the eurogamer staff is made up of the same people that you were all accusing of being sony fanboys before the PS3 came out.

    90% of people in these comment threads need to seriously grow up.

  • BluShock #115 4 years ago

    You can get a DS3 for £30 from Game.co.uk - use the voucher 'modgamer' to get a fiver off :D

    Edit: Sorry not quite a fiver - down to £31.99 :o
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 14:07

  • onyxbox #116 4 years ago

    If you're only comparing to the Sixaxis then you have no frame of reference for how bad those aspects are.

    yes you do, you can say "The triggers are the same as the Sixaxis" and because the people who will be buying this device already own a sixaxis they'll know exactly what that means.

    saying any aspect is better or worse than a 360 is makes no sense in this context... reviewing the controller in this way only serves to fuel a message of DS3 is better than 360 controller in some ways and worse in others and what's the f'ing point in that?

  • onyxbox #117 4 years ago

    @Dizzy who wrote: Because products need to be compared so buyers know if a company is selling you a quality product based on the current market trends. Yes even if those other product have no real relevance for you.

    Same goes for lenses of cameras. Why do reviewers compare a Nikon lens to a Canon one???? Because people wanne know if "their" company is giving them value for money.

    Ok, fair enought I didn't see that side of it... I'll calm down a bit now.
    :-D

  • whoelse #118 4 years ago

    I'll play 25 but no more.

  • electrolite #119 4 years ago

    So to sum up, according to some of the comments on here, because EG raised some quibbles with this Sony product, it's poor journalism, and/or fanboyism, rather than Sony being at fault.

    I wish my head worked like that....

  • Bagpuss #120 4 years ago

    Still say the Dualshock is shit for FPS.....those analogue sticks have always been second best to the Xbox and Xbox 360 for accurate aiming.

  • chudders #121 4 years ago

    Some of you people need to take a good long look at yourself.


  • monkie_king #122 4 years ago

    Peace breaks out in lens metaphor shocker!

  • bioreit #123 4 years ago

    @ SeesThroughAll

    Yes. Try reasoning that with people who actively looking for ways to criticise the article, because they appear to have a mission against the writer...

    See what I did there?

    If you and Arbiter and banfoi and the rest of you hate this supposedly 360-centric website that much

    WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?

    Sod off and populate the PS3fanboy comments section, where you can guarantee that no articles will be critical or ask genuine questions or say anything bad about the poor defenceless multinational corporation.

  • systems #124 4 years ago

    @Kropotkin - the strength of the rumble depends on the game. In Uncharted it nearly shakes out of your hand when scenery is collapsing around you or you're near a grenade, but in other games like Motorstorm it's very light but still noticeable.

    My personal preference is to have rumble, and it would be nice if all developers added a "rumble strength" option as in Bad Company.

    Before anyone says they don't miss rumble - I don't really care.

  • Darren #125 4 years ago

    @ Kropotkin - "I've heard that the strength of the rumble is more like a buzz when compared to the the 360. Is this up to the developers or is it a hard ware issue? "

    I can't speak for anyone else but I think the 360's rumble is more like a buzz compared with the DualShock 3's rumble. For example, in Top Spin 3 you get a satisfyingly solid jolt that feels like the ball bouncing off a racquet in the PS3 version whereas it's just a strong buzz in the 360 version. Some PS3 games have weak rumble effects like MotorStorm, which EG mentioned, and Ratchet & Clank ToD but most are very good. I always thought the PS2's rumble effects where better than the Xbox's and the same is true with this current generation. The PS3's rumble seems to have more variations from weak to strong than the 360 equivalent but I accept I might be just imagining that.

    I am finding that the batteries drain quite quickly if you play games with lots of rumble though. Typically I'm finding I'm having to recharge every 10-15 hours instead of every 25-30 as with the SIXAXIS. I suppose that's to be expected though and it does last longer than the 360's which has that annoying circling light that distracts you when it's down to two bars rather than the last one. At least the light on the DS3 flashes at the back where you can't see it and you get a warning onscreen,which is much better, something I don't think I've ever seen on the 360.

  • HyperShadow #126 4 years ago

    Maybe EG should start writing two versions of articles now. One version a critcal look at the product in question, and the other appeasing the fanboys with nothing but good things to say reguardless of quality and a big fat 10 at the end. Everyone would be happy then.

    Also, if you were only comparing this pad to its predecessor, you'd have on line of writing; "The Sixaxis but with rumble added". The fact is, Sony had a perfect opportunity to update certain flaws with its original product but failed to admit there was anything wrong with it. The article points out that there are certain features withother controllers on other consoles that would have been welcome on this pad and certain design issues that were better dealt with, but Sony's arrogance/laziness or something else passed a decent opportunity up.

    Thats all I have to say on the issue.

  • monkie_king #127 4 years ago

    The circling light is annoying, especially since it lasts for hours.

    From the feel of it, the 360 pad only has one motor, or it doesn't have as much weight on the low-frequency motor as the DS2 did. It's probably a battery life concern though -- I can't imagine the DS3's battery lasting long with the kick you got from the Pike's Peak Vitara in GT, for instance.

  • JamboXL #128 4 years ago

    The Dual Shock 3 should have been in the f#ckin box with my PS3 when i bought it a month ago, for MGS4.

  • Totoriko #129 4 years ago

    Only £20 here in Canada!! WAHAHAHAHA

  • mischief #130 4 years ago

    Its a very small consolation for being Canadian

  • johnnybrn #131 4 years ago

    @ banfoi,

    Everyone knows that you are a Sony fanboy of the highest order and dont own both consoles!

    Plus I have strong suspicion that you are indeed swam/headbog etc.

    Debating whether to ignore you but your idiotic ramblings do make me smile.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #132 4 years ago

    You still here banfoi?

    Care to mention what's wrong with Farty's unusually succinct post?

  • Redeye #133 4 years ago

    Atari 2600 joysticks FTW!

    /runs like hell

  • Dizzy #134 4 years ago

    "who has a PS3 saw sense months ago and sodded off to less flamewar friendly sites, like Gamefaqs. "

    The irony. Well it could be worse... he could have mentioned NeoGAF.

  • Dabs #135 4 years ago

    Amazon have it for £29.99.

  • frostcircus #136 4 years ago

    165 comments on an article about some shaking plastic; this is truly the greatest internet of them all

  • Tyedyed #137 4 years ago

    Still needing the page hits eh eurogamer?

  • matpsp #138 4 years ago

    I imported 2 DS3's when they first launched in Japan and I think they are miles better than the sixaxis pads. They're weightier and use thick plastic, they feel much better quality. The review really did play on the negatives of the pad rather than the positives. And they didnt mention that the battery life is excellent and is on par with the sixaxis, which is quite an achievement considering its now got the rumble to power.

  • DrDamn #139 4 years ago

    @Farticus
    I actually agree with Arbiter on the sync thing. We never have any problem finding your 360 charging cable of a Friday night. We do have problems getting everyone to press the right button at the right time to sync things up though. In my opinion connecting up a cable you have to hand is a quicker and less hassle than the pressing a button on the machine and controller, particularly in the case of the Wii where sync buttons are under flaps/battery cases (or going through the whole A+B madness). Maybe we just got unlucky with Dave & Haydn ;).
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 16:10

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #140 4 years ago

    banfoi & arbiter

    ....ARRRRRRrrrrrrrrRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh!!!!!!!

    You make me want to poke my eyes out with my car keys!

  • monkie_king #141 4 years ago

    So do you think a review of some Windows software shouldn't be allowed to compare it to a superior application on a Mac?

    Or, more pertinently, that a review of Haze shouldn't compare it with Halo? Because after all, "the only conceivable reason to buy [Haze] is because you already own a PS3! As such comparing it to a [FPS] on another platform is utterly pointless".

    Incidentally, Immersion sued Microsoft too, but MS took a smart business decision and settled with them. Sony took it to court and lost, hence the whole Sixaxis/DS3 debacle. They could have prevented the whole fiasco.

  • johnnybrn #142 4 years ago

    Arbiter,

    This is not about Microsoft. The issue is the way the article demonizes Sony for "dropping" rumble functionality like it was a strategic decision. Whereas the reality was that being involved in ongoing litigation over the patent meant that including it in future hardware plans was never going to happen. As usual the argument is spun to Sony in the least favourable light. '

    Im gonna have to call you on that one.

    Sony insisted that rumble was a last gen feature and have been a source of amusement ever since

  • HolyJebus #143 4 years ago

    JESSSSSSUS CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST

    Why do so many retards have to ruin my favourite site.

  • bazpartu #144 4 years ago

    40 bucks big deal, totally worth the effort to go and buy it. im just pissed that people want to see the design changed - its not changed in 10 years because its spot on

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #145 4 years ago

    Care to contribute to the debate rather than poke fun at people you disagree with?

    No

  • HolyJebus #146 4 years ago

    lol

  • DrDamn #147 4 years ago

    @Farticus
    "It's a small issue, granted, but it smacks of lazyness to design a cable-free controller that requires a cable to sync when so many other elements of the PS3 hardware are much slicker in operation."

    It's not a cable free controller though is it? It's got built rechargeable batteries so has to be cabled to charge. I still think connect with a cable is a slicker operation than press a button on the controller, then press a button on the machine before the controller gives up syncing, then wait for it to sync. To a lay person it's also a much simpler operation. One thing which does piss me off is the length of the standard cable they give you - far more worthy of comment. It's shite.

  • onyxbox #148 4 years ago

    I'm going home.

  • MasterNameless #149 4 years ago

    @Arbiter

    Hah! If Eurogamer dared to ever mention Sony as arrogant as you did, you would be the first to start spitting bullets and claiming MS bias - just as you always do for virtually every single article that gets written. It's kind of boring.

    Why don't you learn portuguese and go join Apologie on eurogamer.pt, they luuurrrve PS3 blindly over in Europe! Or maybe SDF?

    And Farticus' post isn't a wall of text... you're clutching at straws now. Now this is a wall of text;

    actually it was said even on this site or vidoe gamer that battlefield better on ps3 i think that thetwo big gamsites ign and gamespot said they are identical also forza 3 lol if its anything like forza 2 or should i say forza 1 cos that what it looks like lol what with its realsitic damage model lol watch what happens when gt5 gets released and every 1 proclaims it to be the most realstic driving sim ever rember u heard it hearwe got gt5 which graphically at least blows forza oh and by the waysplinter cell is multi format and how long have we waited for the mythcial alan wake lol banjo kazooe lolgod of war mt god warof gonna piss on gears as for killzone game spot ign and all other major sites are saying it has got the best graphics ever seen on a console so wel will have to wait andseeabout gamplay but things look promising and has for too human read videogamer 247 its suposed to be shit halo wars lol dont ya remeber halo 3 the worst fps i have played in yrs i mean for a triple a title dont make me laff resistence2 gonna rock and if fable is like the 1st which i purchased for xbox its gonna be shit and as for ghost recon cod sorted that prob out and drake has got better graphics and gameplay the queers of war truth the the truth is after a massive head start ps3 is out selling 360 in amercia and japan for such a shit console its done well and if its so shit y u by 1 lol u make me laff u idiot oh and mgs4 only the second biggest selling game in history which all other reptible game sites regonsize as a fantastic game i could give u so many quotes from numerous sites saying graphically it is the best looking game out there on console and internet is freee ill say that again internet free with new update which rivals xbm lol so lets get it right mt oh and i forgot that my console is reliable as well and heres the clincher if u got the money and aint a peasent and can a afford a 50 inch lcd wiv surround sound can apreciate its a blueray player as well oh and by the way truthfull cod 4 fact is superior on ps3 check most gamesites for proof off that lol cant wait till u see god of war rain on ure sad parade

    LOL, still laughing at that thread... it really is the definition of comedy. I was laughing so much whilst reading it, it was actually painful! I hope you guys didn't scare tnt_2008 off, he's just too funny!
    Edited by 2 at 04/07/08 @ 18:07

  • Tyedyed #150 4 years ago

    Top post arbiter.

  • Totoriko #151 4 years ago

    @mischief

    Well, I'm not Canadian
    WOOOSHHHH! +1

  • electrolite #152 4 years ago

    "Sony took it to court and lost, hence the whole Sixaxis/DS3 debacle. They could have prevented the whole fiasco."

    Debacle? Fiasco? They saved coin by releasing a controller with reduced functionality, dismissed anyone who wanted rumble, then released a follow up with rumble at a high price, and they've got people defending them for it. I think they'll regard it as something of a success.

  • #153 4 years ago

    @evilfoxhound

    Im in agreement with you, makes no sense. People speak of fanboys and tbh its a shite label to give someone, but some peoples post just absolutely reek of it and will do anything to attack a brand which makes no real sense, but then I guess we`re all guilty of it now and again.

    No offense anyone, im just saying.

  • Zappa #154 4 years ago

    quote-Usual fanboy bait spread throughout the article.

    The writers here really are flame whores.
    ------------------------------------------------------------ ---

    right. I knew as soon i saw the link what to expect.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 18:58

  • SilentScream #155 4 years ago

    Gaol: Usual fanboy bait spread throughout the article.

    The writers here really are flame whores.

    I'm glad other people have noticed, because I was gonna say that the "authors" do seem completely biased to Sony, and the whole Playstation range.

    You're meant to be a professional, giving a non-biased opinion...
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 19:09

  • belziah #156 4 years ago

    What none of you seem to get, is that PDF or XBOT, EG is getting paid.

    Yes, EG has a "special relationship" with Microsoft, and it's obvious for all to see but, there's no point coming here to support or defend it as they're laughing either way.

    For EG its a win/win situation and until you stop posting here, why the hell would they destroy a successful business model.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 19:26

  • HolyJebus #157 4 years ago

    "EG has a "special relationship" with Microsoft"

    Do you think that there could be any wild possibility that just just plain and simple think the 360 is a better console. They don't hate the PS3 or Sony. They don't get paid from MS. They just happen to think that so far this generation MS has done a better job. And yes that includes the whole RROD.

  • chronom4n #158 4 years ago

    It seems to me that all they have done is given an opinion on wether the pad has improved things or not. From my understanding on reading the review how can anyone come to the conclusion that they are MS/NGC biased is probably lacking some sort of intellingence. The thing for someone like me who needs to know wether they have improved the pad or not because I am close to jumping onto the 360 or PS3 bandwagon, knowing that the pad is using the battery all of the time is making me choose the 360 because I do not want the hassle of always wondering if my pad needs charging up or not.

    The other thing and I wonder if anyone has noticed this with regards to the rubber analogue sticks, I think the stickiest rubber they used was on the PSone pads. Gosh, those analogue sticks were made of rubber that had real stickiness. Other issues I have with the DS3 is that I for one need to have rumble but the L2 and R2 are still no different to the original pad. Sometimes I wonder if sony really do have the gamers real intentions in mind or do they think that we will just accept what they will give us. I think I will go for the latter.

  • chronom4n #159 4 years ago

    It seems to me that all they have done is given an opinion on wether the pad has improved things or not. From my understanding on reading the review how can anyone come to the conclusion that they are MS/NGC biased is probably lacking some sort of intellingence. The thing for someone like me who needs to know wether they have improved the pad or not because I am close to jumping onto the 360 or PS3 bandwagon, knowing that the pad is using the battery all of the time is making me choose the 360 because I do not want the hassle of always wondering if my pad needs charging up or not.

    The other thing and I wonder if anyone has noticed this with regards to the rubber analogue sticks, I think the stickiest rubber they used was on the PSone pads. Gosh, those analogue sticks were made of rubber that had real stickiness. Other issues I have with the DS3 is that I for one need to have rumble but the L2 and R2 are still no different to the original pad. Sometimes I wonder if sony really do have the gamers real intentions in mind or do they think that we will just accept what they will give us. I think I will go for the latter.

  • HolyJebus #160 4 years ago

    Hello benny_hill please fuck off.

  • DanWhitehead #161 4 years ago

    Guys, guys, guys, guys. The Tigers are playing. To-night! And I never miss a game.

  • Genome #162 4 years ago

    200+ comments on a controller?

    We should make sure most of you never breed.

  • DanWhitehead #163 4 years ago

    I doubt that'll be a problem.

  • dom6918 #164 4 years ago

    Got the DS3 alongside MGS4 in the post..from shopto...60 quid for both..and must i say...finally ive found a PS3 game worth playing..ive never played MGS before..and im regretting it now..

    Oh and the vibrations themselves are amazing!! dare i say it..better then my 360s!!
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 20:55

  • rawburger #165 4 years ago

    good vibrations

  • tonynibbles #166 4 years ago

    Surely the PS3 controllers get away with not having a power saving feature as their batteries last so fucking long!!?

    Methinks this article is overly pessimistic.
    The worst thing about the DS3 is the delay.

    Sony did a great job at patching old games right from the start of the Jap release, it just really sucks they took 8 months.

  • smelly #167 4 years ago

    @belziah: They have a "special relationship" with anyone who advertises with them.. for obvious reasons.

    But i dont get why you think that microsoft are paying them off to tell you the bad points of the pad?

    Surely a review/article is only bad if it DOESNT tell you about the bad points?

    If the review stated "this pad is ace, there's nothing wrong with it at all.. and it's totally worth paying 40 quid just to get the exact same pad but with rumble feature now turned on" .. THEN i'd be calling foul and suggesting they'd been paid off.

    Crying because they pointed out the FLAWS is so far beyond sad i dont know where to start!

    Sony have released the same controller but with vibration. They expect you to pay 40 quid for the priviledge of having vibration. Apart from the vibro - the pad hasnt changed at all - and still has the same problems (you have to connect it using wires to register it, you cant physically change the battery when it eventually decides not to charge, there's no way of turning it off, yadda yadda)...

    So the review is therefor asking "is it worth paying 40 quid to have the same pad but with vibration?".

    What makes you think they're "anti sony" ffs?

    They've reported bad things about the 360 too!

    Sure, they havent given many ps3 exclusives great scores.. but then.. there hasnt been many great ps3 exclusives - that's NOT Their fault.

    Get a life, and stop crying because you paid silly amounts of money for an inferior machine with an inferior pad which needed replacing just to get rumble.
    Edited by 1 at 04/07/08 @ 21:26

  • smelly #168 4 years ago

    @TonyNibbles: "Surely the PS3 controllers get away with not having a power saving feature as their batteries last so fucking long!!? "


    Erm.. except they wont last so long now that they have vibration...

  • tonynibbles #169 4 years ago

    I'm talking about my DS3 ;)

  • tonynibbles #170 4 years ago

    Theres alot of dicks waving around alot of piss streams on this thread.

    All the pricks shouting out about how the review is 'purely FACTual'. Its a review. Its opinion. Sure, there are some pieces of information based on fact but the way you lot are yabbling on reminds me of Dr Fox "There's no scientific evidence, but it is FACT". Come on. Its a review. Its opinion.

    My opinion is that I got mine last Nov for 28 quid and its great. Still love the DS pad design.

  • belziah #171 4 years ago

    @HolyJebus

    When 360's were RRODing before PS3's launch EG couldnt bring themselves to criticise Microsoft(in fact they've excused it every step of the way) but, they've bent over backwards to criticise Sony(not without cause)every step of the way.

    I ask you what would upset you more, your console dying and the manufactoror denying all knowledge(as they did for 16 months) or a ridiculously packaged joypad?

    There was more bile reserved for this "review" of a pad than has ever been shown towards MS's failure's(which have truly been few but ultimately more annoying) since the 360's launch. From the taglines to the language used in articles, EG has been an exercise in stealth marketing.

    And dont get me wrong, Sony are only second to Gordon Brown in their inability to deliver on a promise but, as a so-called independant news site, contributed to by alledged journalists, one at least expects balance, which is something EG has proven its incapable of delivering.

    I used to come here for the news and reviews but now, if I'm honest, its to watch the monkeys sing(that would the writers) and dance(the rest of us).

  • frostcircus #172 4 years ago

    Perhaps EG is biased against dignity?

  • spookyzombie #173 4 years ago

    I thought it was a good review. I own a 360 and a PS3 and I've always thought the 360 pad was far superior. Just my opinon.

  • frostcircus #174 4 years ago

    There's no such thing as an opinion when it comes to matters of import such as this

  • UncleLou #175 4 years ago

    A thread full of paranoid dimwits with post-purchase anxiety, what a surprise.

  • MrsPacMan #176 4 years ago

    i love reading these kind of threads.

    The P$3 fanboys just can't get over the fact that sony has fucked up big time. There are 2 maybe 3 exclusives that make it worth buying. Give it up people and admit it's a joke of a 'next gen' console. Yes I own a 360 and a wii. So fuck off.

  • ISmoke #177 4 years ago

    Fuck me £40 i got mine just before MGS4 came out imported from Japan for £29 and that was including the delivery charge and in games that were created with rumble in mind it works very wel. And look at it this way the DS3 dosnt need auto off because unlike the 360 pad and WIImote it has a built in battery that puts the other controllers batt life to shame
    And surely im not the only PS3 owner that constantly has a USB to Mini USB pluggged in ready to charge. Stop picking at little things

  • Gaol #178 4 years ago

    As always the muppets moaning about fanboys outnumber the fanboys 10:1.

  • chronom4n #179 4 years ago

    OK, for me the dreamcast controller was a very well conceived peice of controller design and tbh, the xbox controller and its successor really grabbed the best bits of the dc and bettered it by a country mile. As to the DS3, it seems to me that sony'smain concern was to sell as many consoles as possible it that means not giving real issues to the design of the DS3. So all in all, the sony camp had done a great job in their effort to make a quality controller from their first attempt. But now, as gamers have more choice it is a shame that their effort seems to stuck with a design that is a little over a decade old.

    On the subject of using a controller for a particular game, i have been giving Forza a blast this evening and all I can say is that the controller really complements the 'balance' needed to eek the most out of the cars. In that way the MS controller although uising the DC controller template i.e. triggers mianly have also done well.

  • smelly #180 4 years ago

    So it seems to me some fanboys are totally over the moon with happiness with the thought and prospect of paying 40 quid for the exact same pad they already own albeit with vibration functionality (which should've been in it to start with).

    And anyone who points out that this is a bit much to pay just to get a rumble feature in something they already own - that person is a 360 fanboy or something? And whoa betide any reviewer that happens to mention preferring a pad on another system HOW DARE HE!

    I always get confused by fanboyism.. But claiming anyone who mentions the faults of something is a fanboy in love with another system.. come on!

    For example...

    Nintendo - hate waving my arms around when a button press will do. VC games cost to much. 3rd party games suck. 1st party games few and far between.

    360 - Unstable as hell.. Currently waiting for my 4th repair

    PS3 - launched with an obsolete pad, now expect us to pay 40 quid for the priviledge of owning own which shouldve come with the system for free. less than a handful of decent exclusives to even begin to justify the price tag of the console (which now is in effect 40 quid more).


    There.. I've just slagged off all 3 consoles. Maybe reviewers on here should do the same on each review just to stop the fankids crying that their favouritst machine has just been slated.


    BTW - Where in the review did the reviewer say the pad was shit anyhow? I thought it was quite positive towards it myself..

  • dom6918 #181 4 years ago

    Look im not fanboy!

    But im chuffed with this and MGS4...rumble is excellent..this is someone who has a 360 too!

  • Kryon #182 4 years ago

    dom6918 is a blatant fanboy ;)

  • drxym #183 4 years ago

    Rumble does add *something* to the experience but mostly its nothing you would miss for its absence. I have the DS3 and frankly the only games which make much use of it are MGS4 and SSHD. The experience in SSHD is great with deep rumbles and pulses. MGS4 uses it to enhance cutscenes and explosions. The rest (including most PS2) use it in very forgettable ways. I would suggest that its worth getting if you need a second controller anyway, but don't expect to transform your experiences.

  • chronom4n #184 4 years ago

    But im chuffed with this and MGS4...rumble is excellent..this is someone who has a 360 too! If you remember rightly in the PS1 days, kojima and company blew us all away when the dual shock came to life in MGS1 with the scene where the russian helicopter roars into life and the DS starts to rumble! man that was awesome. One thing you have got to hand it is Kojima and his team for being so original (well IMO anyway) with what they get given.

  • VMerken #185 4 years ago

    I have a 360 and own a PS3 and for hardcore gameplay, the PS3 pad is far superior. Just my opinion.

    Either way, considering the fact that one can buy 2 official SIXAXIS for the official price of one official DS3 and the "extra value" rumble brings to gameplay... hmm.
    Edited by 1 at 05/07/08 @ 11:06

  • GamesConnoisseur #186 4 years ago

    EG should just give up and pack it in, no one like their controllers being just critically looked at!

    Of course comparasions would be made, not to say which controller would be better and for you to go out at get that instead! Simply about the features that should have been built in or similarly adopted, such as synch or auto power off to conserve battery life, also the ability to change battery when it died and gone to battery heaven, being no longer rechargable (IT WILL.. just a matter of time).

    I applaud EG for pointing out that Sony still hasnt adopted what other rivals are doing, and its boring to say it is flame baiting when EG is trying to serve PS3 consumers interest. This article is aimed at PS3 owners and where we would need to give feedback to Sony about how they can better their products.

  • spookyzombie #187 4 years ago

    @ V Merken - Yeah, my local stores don't sell hardcore 360 games either. There's only PS3 titles in that section.

  • chronom4n #188 4 years ago

    This got me thinking and it seems that each pad has now been associated with the console. I mean to the MS masses the 360controller is synonymous with Microsoft and the DS1,2,3 is the same with sony. I hope you see what I mean.

  • Codger81 #189 4 years ago

    @Shinji
    04-Jul-08 09:41:16

    "It seems to me that EG have completely lost the ability to appraise anything without comparing it to something else."

    Good lord, it's almost like you're starting to understand how this whole criticism and reviewing business works.
    ------------------------------------

    Post of the Year Award goes to ...

  • smelly #190 4 years ago

    @banfoi...

    for a moment i was taking you seriously.. then i noticed your name..

    Well done!

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #191 4 years ago

    EG Version
    "Available for the princely sum of GBP 39.99, gamers have expressed everything from mild consternation to undignified rage over the price-tag of a controller which is, lest we forget, available on import (and Amazon sellers) for five or ten quid cheaper - including shipping."

    Arbiter Version
    "...even though the RRP is £40, people looking to upgrade should realistically expect to pay £5 to £10 less if they shop around. Particularly as the exact same hardware has been importable at that price point for several months now."

    ...OOPS! I've just split a hair!



    Edited by 1 at 05/07/08 @ 20:55

  • samaran #192 4 years ago

    [link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=69854 ]http://ww w.eurogamer.net/article.php?art...[/link]

    read this comments thread, guys

    seriously

  • Retroid #193 4 years ago

    God, fanboys (FOR ANYTHING) are a painful experience.

    Neither company is perfect, neither console is perfect, neither controller is perfect.

    Pointing out negatives for anything IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOUR MOTHER / LOVED ONES.

  • Retroid #194 4 years ago

    Maybe.... JUST MAYBE..... Sony have fucked a few things up with the PS3 / DS3 launches & designs.

    Just as MS fucked up with the RRoD issue, and Nintendo have fucked up with the limited internal storage of the Wii coming back to bit it on the arse with WiiWare.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #195 4 years ago

    It's actually like banging my head against a brick wall!

    Almost anyone except for a retard or a fanboy (yes I know they're similar), would agree that the RRP is a princely sum for something that people hoped would be standard and were told by Sony it's not going to happen. Yes, a lot of people were also pissed off about it.

    He mentioned both those issues and helped the consumer by saying despite this you can get it for a tenner less!!!

    What makes me laugh even more than your pedantic approach to proving this site is run by a WHOLE group of people that HATE Sony, is your alternative to one of his paragraphs...

    "Although the rechargable batteries in the previously available Sixaxis controllers have an enviably long period before requiring docking..."

    A bit hypocritical methinks.



    Edited by 1 at 06/07/08 @ 15:58

  • Kryon #196 4 years ago

    Arbiter, SpaceMidget75 did actually pwn you quite badly there, just admit it and give up your fantard ways, it gets embarrassing after a while tbh...

  • m0thr4 #197 4 years ago

    I don't get the issue about the controller not having a power saving mode. There's a red led that indicates when the controller is switched on, and that light goes out if you switch an individual pad off or switch the PS3 off (from the 'PS' button menu). As far as I can tell, this means the pad is off (or at least in some kind power saving mode), exactly the same as the Wii and Xbox 360 pads.

    I had a quick trawl through Google and Wikipedia to see if I could even find any discussion of this supposed 'isssue' and came up with nothing at all, let alone anything with any hard evidence.

    The author of this article needs to lay off the 'shrooms, I think.

    (EDITED twice for spelling mistakes - guess I need to lay off the booze!)
    Edited by 2 at 06/07/08 @ 18:36

  • wayneh #198 4 years ago

    Battery seems to last for ages on my pads, unlike the xbox360 I was for ever charging them. As for the price anyone who pays £40 is a mug as there are plently of places selling them cheaper. I still don't like the triggers though as the Xbox360 ones were a lot more responsive. Apparently there is a third party add-on you can buy can anyone tell me where to get them and how much?

  • monty2k #199 4 years ago

    @m0ther4:

    The 360 pad and wiimote both enter a power-saving mode after about 15 minutes (or so) of inactivity. The 360 and wii will still be switched on but you'll have to manually switch the pad/wiimote back on. The PS3 pad is always on - it doesn't feature a similar power saving feature. This is what the author is talking about.


    @ wayneh:

    [link url=http://www.play.com/ Games/PlayStation3/4-/5675248/Gioteck-Real-Triggers-For-PS3/ Product.html
    ]http://ww w.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4...[/link]

    I've seen them for a little bit cheaper (around £2-3) in my local HMV and GAME but I haven't bought any since they look pretty cheap and shitty.

  • smelly #200 4 years ago

    The way i see it..

    If you need a new pad and were going to shell out for a sixaixs - then it's probably worth the money

    however "upgrading" your sixaxis to have rumble .. for 40 quid.. feck off.

    That's like paying 40 quid for a rumble add on..

  • rprince #201 4 years ago

    Losing your USB cable? How do you charge it whenever it needs charging? And when do you unsync it? My controller is permanently synced and my USB cable always plugged into the PS3 ready to charge. Why isn't yours?! ;-)

  • muzzer77 #202 4 years ago

    I have never had anything come loose on any PS controller. I think the DS3 is a great pad and well done Sony, unfortunately for Eurogamer the only thing it really is missing is the Microsoft logo. I have a 360 and the fact it does not have a built in battery is rubbish, the rumble is too aggressive, especially in COD4 and kills my battery. I am using the charge battery (£14.99 + £30 when i got the pad = £44.99 thats for eurogamer going on about the price). The play time from the official charge and play kit is crap compared to the Dualshock 3. So eurogamer if your going to compare do it probably, if you don't have the charge and play kit how much have you spent on batteries since having your 360?

  • EmiliasHorse #203 4 years ago

    Great thread. Well done to all.

    Not sure a review about a controller is worth so much hate. I had a fiddle with the DS3 seems quite nice, bit like the old one.

  • Harmonica #204 4 years ago

    NEWS: DualShock still the most uncomfortable borderline un-ergonomic controller on the market. Lots of people buy it.

    My hands have basically all but been stretchered off after 24hrs playing PS2 Pro Evo in the past. I have played many 24hr events on PC, Xbox (1+2) and even Wii (boxing - all but my hands were destroyed), and never have I had the same rictis-induced pain as when using the PS2 controller. It is old and shite. Apparently Sony have calculated that they will sell more units by reproducing the previous controller identically than by bothering to redesign it.

    Just so there's no element of bias: 360 controller has the worst dpad ever and the analogues go on the wonk after 500 hours. The Wii-mote is built for people with no sweat glands, has stupid japanophilic buttons, and the Wii nunchuck C-buttons always break. The DS is built for midgets.

    Xbox original S-type controller is THE BALLS. Except no shoulder buttons, alas.
    Edited by 2 at 08/07/08 @ 19:08

  • lordbarron #205 4 years ago

    The author is clearly a fanboy of the competing consoles. I wouldn't take this seriously folks. If you want to take a digg at ps3 then at least pick on something they've truely ballz'd up ie the 2.40 firmware.
    As for the controller, they got themselves in deepwater with the patent, thus the delay. But who else has a controller with both rumble and accelerometer functionality? Sony missed a trick with the wii games, seeing as the ps3 is perfectly capable of replicating these same titles.
    The controller lasts so long on battery life u honestly dont need power saving functionality, unless of course the new ds3 has 50% or less operational time than its predecessor (i doubt).
    And it syncs when u turn it on, so ii have no idea what he's reffering to there.
    Get off the crack mate, its becoming quite clear the ps3 will become the defacto home entertainment platform in the upcoming years, fall all its faults it does so much more than anything else on the market and for the best value.

  • bitesize #206 4 years ago

    But who else has a controller with both rumble and accelerometer functionality? Sony missed a trick with the wii games, seeing as the ps3 is perfectly capable of replicating these same titles.

    just to pick up on one of your ridiculous points (i'll leave the rest for someone else to point out) - the accelerometers in the sixaxis/ds3 are NOT the same as the motion/position sensing of the wiimote. if you think the ps3 is capable of the type of control that the wii has, you're sadly mistaken...

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