Can Consoles Run Crysis?

By Richard Leadbetter Published 5 December, 2009

Digital Foundry lays out the ultimate test for CryEngine 3.

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It's just over two years since CryTek released its astonishing first-person shooter Crysis, and despite enormous technological leaps in the PC space, it remains the single most important game available for testing graphical performance. At maximum settings, even the most powerful available combination of CPU and GPU still cannot run this game at 1080p with a sustained, v-synced, 60 frames per second.

That being the case, the tantalising glimpses we've had of Crysis running on console during CryTek's recent technology demos are all the more remarkable. The firm's motto, "maximum game", suggests a zero-compromise approach to its releases, which doesn't quite seem in step with the accepted wisdom that something has to give when you convert state-of-the-art PC games into PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 releases. So the question is, based on what has been revealed to date, can consoles run Crysis? Looking ahead to 2010, what can we expect from the sequel, which is also CryTek's first cross-platform project?

First of all, it's only fair to point out that the actual form Crysis 2 will take remains a complete unknown - CryTek is playing its cards very close to its chest. However, we do know that it is based around the developer's new multi-platform middleware, CryEngine 3, and in its quest to sell the engine to other developers the firm has released plenty of source material that gives us some idea of the properties of Crysis 2's underlying tech.

CryEngine 3 looks like a remarkable piece of kit, seemingly combining all the elements of the Crysis engine and then some, alongside tools that allow developers to sculpt levels and gameplay within a single, unified environment that provides "what you see is what you play" results on all three platforms as the game is being made. It's within this environment that we've seen our first tantalising glimpses of Crysis assets running on both PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.

It's undoubtedly Crysis, but with a visual look quite unlike any of the default settings on PC. Elements of the engine have been repurposed. They've been scaled back in many places, but it's clearly still Crysis, and obviously running on console in real time. So just what has CryTek done to make the impossible a reality and what's the performance like in its own demos?

Digital Foundry charged accomplished Crysis modder Nebula with an uneviable task: to recreate the console look within the existing PC game. CryTek's engine is so scalable and so flexible that for someone with an intimate knowledge of the game this isn't quite the onerous task you might imagine. CE3 appears to be based significantly on the core Crysis tech, so it's no surprise that we're able to scale back CE2 to give a very close replica of console CE3, even if some of the headline tech (such as the hugely impressive global illumination engine in CE3) can't be copied.

Before we continue, check out some of Nebula's existing mods. It's a series of before-and-after comparisons that pits CryTek's original up against our collaborator's remixed renditions. The tech is so flexible that in the right hands, it is capable of more subtle, realistic lighting and more apparent atmospherics. Despite the increase in overall image quality, the mods run with no performance penalty over the unmodified game, as you can see in the debug readouts in the top-right of each screen.

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Despite the more realistic, less-artificial-looking lighting scheme, engine load with the mods in place is no different to the unmodified Crysis. Original CryTek version to the left, mods to the right.

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  • Chufty #1 2 years ago

    Moving onto a sequel allows CryTek to concentrate on levels and gameplay that do suit a cross-platform product.

    In other words, the game will be compromised as a result of it being cross-platform.

    The engine may well be scalable to high-end PCs (just like UE3), but that doesn't mean the actual game will be. Which, at the end of the day, is what's important.

  • PearOfAnguish #2 2 years ago

    "Crisis is only about graphics"

    It's Crysis.
    Nice to see someone has bought up the old 'Crysis is only about graphics' bullshit on the very first post. Have you even played the game? You don't need a monster system to get the most out of it, that's yet more crap. Crysis is a great FPS that looks lovely even on medium settings and runs quite happily on a wide range of systems.


    Nothing particularly surprising about this article. Would guess that maps will be slightly smaller on the consoles as well, but there's no reason it shouldn't look really pretty.
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 10:42

  • ChthonicEcho #3 2 years ago

    You don't need a monster system to get the most out of it, that's yet more crap.

    To this, I have to ask your very own question: have you even played the game? You don't need a monster system to play it, yes. But do you need a monster system to get the most out of it? Yes, you do.

  • PearOfAnguish #4 2 years ago

    Only if by 'get the most out of it' you mean 'I must play it with all the graphics settings at very high or I will not enjoy it'. The gameplay is the important thing. If your enjoyment of a game is spoilt because there's an graphics option you can't enable - as the post I was responding to implies - then you're doing something wrong.
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 11:04

  • des #5 2 years ago

    "Both consoles are capable of great things but Crysis is only about graphics. For me, personally, that doesn't make a great game. "

    Spoken like a true console warrior...amazing

  • Hotcooler #6 2 years ago

    You can actually get 60fps sustained with Crysis now. Even 100fps sustained at 1920x1200! You just need 1x ATI 5970
    for 60fps or 2 of them for 100 xD Proof: 2cards - http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=Oy78T2wZWdA 1 card - [link url=http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=pooz-gLyoVc
    ]http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=pooz-gLyoVc
    [/link]

    I dont actually believe that we'll see any 3rd party cryengine tech games this generation on consoles. Let's assume that Crysis 2 will be out in 2011. Some time that year companies will start buying the engine.. 3 year dev cycle it's 2014... It would be either last games for this gen or first games for next gen consoles..

    '''Both consoles are capable of great things but Crisis is only about graphics. For me, personally, that doesn't make a great game.'''
    That's true. But what made crysis great apart from the suit is graphics! If not for them it would be just another shooter.

  • ChthonicEcho #7 2 years ago

    I hate to argue semantics, but you have mentioned 'to get the most out of [Crysis]'. 'Most' includes quality graphics. If you wanted to make a point about gameplay, should have just said that you don't need a monster system to enjoy Crysis's gameplay. To get the most out of Crysis as a whole, yes, you need a monster system. Simple as.

    Personally, to me, it isn't just all about gameplay. Granted, graphics are the bottom of my list of priorities, but I will not enjoy a game with a horrible plot, bland characters, dull artistic style, glitchy graphics, only because the gameplay is genius.

  • Optimaximal #8 2 years ago

    Interesting how they've removed all the technically interesting features (motion blur etc.) yet made sure all the fancy-yet-pointless effects that sell well (god rays) are left in.

    *sigh*

  • PearOfAnguish #9 2 years ago

    Okay Cthonic, I'm not going to get into a stupid nitpicking argument. The point is that Crysis runs just fine at medium or high settings on any half decent PC, and if you can't enjoy the game because you can't have it at 'very high' - which most people will not be able to tell is any different to high - then you should consider choosing another hobby.

  • Stuz359 #10 2 years ago

    Those who are saying it is just about the graphics are wrong. It's not the greatest game I have played, but it is VERY good.Graphics can enhance the experience of a game but it is certainly not the be all and end all.

  • Hantheman #11 2 years ago

    It is a very good game Crysis. Intense shooter. A nice tactical hybrid shooter. You run in, you get your arse handed on a plate.

  • UncleLou #12 2 years ago

    Both consoles are capable of great things but Crisis is only about graphics.

    Utter nonsense. It's all about huge levels with excellent design, great AI (unless you exploit it deliberately) and the most fun physics in a game yet. It doesn't hurt that it looks fantastic, of course. Well, it does seem to hurt some people, but not those with a PC.

  • SYS64738 #13 2 years ago

    My system can run Crysis fairly smooth (25-40fps), all settings on very high at 1680x1050, which isn't all that nowadays either. And my system is by no means a killer system (2.5 years old, E6700 C2D, 8800GT, 2GB RAM, even back then not top spec).

    This game is one of the main reasons why I find it hard to switch to consoles (which I'm currently contemplating), admittedly purely from a gfx point of view.. the lower resolutions in most console games give me a headache, especially on bigger screens.

    I'm also not sure what people moan about re gameplay, it's a pretty FPS with above average AI and nice physics. If you don't like this then maybe the actual genre isn't for you.

    EDIT: Just an example of a standard game situation: 1 hut, 1 humvee. Park humvee in hut. Walk further away. Snipe external fuel tank on humvee. Watch fire spread. Humvee expodes, flies through the roof and blows the hut into a hundred pieces, flying around your head. All done at smooth framerates and high res, not scripted of course, just for fun. Haven't seen that on consoles yet, unfortunately.
    Edited by 2 at 05/12/09 @ 11:55

  • DevilsNeverCry #14 2 years ago

    Theres no denying that Crysis was and still is probably a pinnacle in gaming development for PC thus far, and the prospect of this coming to consoles for me is exciting because...well you saw those tech snippets - it looks awesome. The physics are great too, the engine seems to have it all.

    As an 'ex-PC' gamer I understand that playing a game isn't all about the graphics, for years I ran games only as high as I could so that I got optimal performance because gameplay is the most important thing of all, but graphics is nice.

    What worries me about this is that the tech demos released to date - the FPS on those videos were poor. Who will want to play a game that dips to as low as 15FPS in what were, quite frankly, not even key moments of gameplay where there was even stuff going on.

    I realise that these are only EARLY tech demos to show the possibilities of the engine and that with layers and layers of optimisation we may end up with something that rivals Uncharted 2/Gears series in terms of what takes advantages of those systems individual talents. I'm sure Crysis 2 will make me eat these words and that it really is probably down to optimisation but damn if they can get a game to look that good and run at a higher FPS on a constant then colour me impressed (even more)!
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 12:00

  • DKTronics #15 2 years ago

    So, you need a £1000-worth of DX11 Videocards to play a 2-year-old game at 100fs ? Riiiiight.

    And, I see PC Elitist Snobbery is still alive and kicking. Go watch some PS3 Crysis 2 vids on Youtube, all running on a Console costing £235. You'll need to spend 3x that, just to run the game on Medium settings on PC.

  • UncleLou #16 2 years ago

    Nah, you don't. It's ignorant posts like yours that breed PC snobbery.

  • thomaspower0 #17 2 years ago

    I have a PC with the following specs:

    Intel Core i7 860 (4x2,80GHz)
    6GB DDR3
    Nvidea GeForce GT220 1GB(1024MB)

    + a 1080p 22" screen.

    Could I run Crysis (1) on the highest graphics with 720p?

    I also have an X360 but the framerate drops to like 18 sometimes in the video, and under 20fps means lag..
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 12:29

  • shotgun44 #18 2 years ago

    Oh, someone's showing off ;)

  • raion #19 2 years ago

    "At maximum settings, even the most powerful available combination of CPU and GPU still cannot run this game at 1080p with a sustained, v-synced, 60 frames per second."

    modern computers still can't run GTA3 without framerate drops for that matter.
    sometimes it's not all about the muscle, but the brains (engine) as well.

  • Nebula #20 2 years ago

    "And, I see PC Elitist Snobbery is still alive and kicking. Go watch some PS3 Crysis 2 vids on Youtube, all running on a Console costing £235. You'll need to spend 3x that, just to run the game on Medium settings on PC."

    That is not true. For example the PC where the shots come from can be built for about £600 or less. About 1.5 years ago it cost £750 and that includes high quality brands/components and Blu-ray player. As you see at 1280x720 it does 50fps at very high settings + edgeAA 2 as evident by the shots in article. So not only does it render much more but also much faster with AI/game world active. But yes it costs more but you also get more. In the end a mather of priorities and a PC is usable for a lot of other tasks not related to gaming. Something to think about.



    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 12:44

  • bad09 #21 2 years ago

    That was a really interesting article, nice one.

    Even in a watered down form it will be cool for consoles owners to experience Crysis, everyone should it's wicked. I remember trying the demo on my old PC and it just sobbed in the corner, begging for mercy so I looked in envy at Crysis for ages, it was only this year I finally had some decent hardware to play the game and what a game!

    Now hardware chasing for the highest settings like the rest of you though. Bloody great!

  • DKTronics #22 2 years ago

    >>Nah, you don't. It's ignorant posts like yours that breed PC snobbery.

    Oh please, the excuses you PC snobs use when it comes to gaming gets more pathetic with every post. You just love blaming everyone else, devs, and consoles for your continued downfall. The sooner the PC dies a quick death the better.

    And £600 or less ? lol. Still 3x a console, or 2x console + a good HDTV.

  • hiddenranbir #23 2 years ago

    No, it can't.

    Simples.

    The firm's motto, "maximum game"

    I totally understand that Crytek, but don't start bitching that your game didn't sell much then. Learn your marketbase, they don't have your super built computers that you tested your max settings on.
    Edited by 2 at 05/12/09 @ 13:21

  • StooMonster #24 2 years ago

    The sooner the PC dies a quick death the better.

    Less consumer choice is a bad thing, reduces innovation, increases costs due to reduced competition. How is quick death of PC gaming a better thing?

    Better than what?

  • UncleLou #25 2 years ago

    Oh please, the excuses you PC snobs use when it comes to gaming gets more pathetic with every post.

    Haha, QED. That was too easy.

  • StooMonster #26 2 years ago

    Also, And £600 or less ? lol. Still 3x a console, or 2x console + a good HDTV.

    £150-£200 for "a good HDTV" ... can you even get a good HDTV for £600? Your quality threshold must be pretty low!

  • thelzdking #27 2 years ago

    "Oh please, the excuses you PC snobs use when it comes to gaming gets more pathetic with every post. You just love blaming everyone else, devs, and consoles for your continued downfall. The sooner the PC dies a quick death the better."

    Wah wah wah: I don't like PCs and I'm expressing it on the internet. Everyone who disagrees with me, regardless of the facts, is a PC elitist because I'm a dialectical genius. Well done to me.

  • koopa #28 2 years ago

    I've always liked Crytek's engines and they seem easy to work with, but for some reason there isn't any major game aside the "Cry" ones using it that I know of, shame as it looks like there's a lot potential in them for various genres...

  • DKTronics #29 2 years ago

    >>Haha, QED. That was too easy.

    Good 'ole UncleLou, the stereo-typical PC gamer fantard.

    >>£150-£200 for "a good HDTV" ... can you even get a good HDTV for £600? Your quality threshold must be pretty low!

    Whats inside the TV is more important than whats outside. You can get a decent HDTV with the same panel that goes into the Samsungs and LGs, for less than £250. Add the cost of a Xbox 360 + PS3, and thats roughly £620 - £630 -ish, about the same cost as a PC able to run games on Medium. Only now, you don't have to mess around with Patches, Bugs, Crashes, Micro-Stutter, the CONSTANT upgrade cycle, Windows, Viruses, Starforce, Securom, online validation, and most important of all - Whether the PC is actually going to get any games at all, since most devs have moved on to the more profitable consoles.

    And besides, we all know you PC gamers are pirating, cheats, anyway, and no dev wants their games on a platform that gives them no return, and gets pirated to hell and back.

    I expect some PC gamer will be along in a moment to mention Keyboard & Mouse..something..bla..AA..AF..1920x1080..something....like the world really gives a crap.

    Now, where are those negative scores ? I get turned on just thinking about them.


    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 14:07

  • StooMonster #30 2 years ago

    Whats inside the TV is more important than whats outside.
    That's right.

    You can get a decent HDTV with the same panel that goes into the Samsungs and LGs, for less than £250.
    But keep telling yourself that ... after all isn't everything that's cheaper the same as more expensive versions?

  • FooAtari #31 2 years ago

    @DKTronics

    Why are you being such a dick?

    If you don't like PC gaming, thats fine. But why does it bother you so much that other people like the platform? It doesn't effect you in anyway if some random on the internet enjoys PC gaming.

    As for wanting the format to die as a gaming format, that's just stupid. It's in no ones interest for it die. Many people in games development cut their teeth on the PC creating mods for games, and there is a huge independent scene on the PC creating new ideas and great games, some of which make their way onto Live and PS Network.

    Consoles benefit greatly from PC gaming.

  • PearOfAnguish #32 2 years ago

    So crysis 2 will be another tech demo like the first one?

    If you don't like the game fair enough but surely you can come up with a better criticism than 'it's a tech demo hurrr'.

    "But keep telling yourself that ... after all isn't everything that's cheaper the same as more expensive versions?"

    This makes sense. Why waste money on a Ferrari when you can get a Ford Ka, they both have four wheels and an internal combustion engine.

  • Miths #33 2 years ago

    As impressive as the Crysis engine is and how fantastic particularly foliage looks (I've played the first few hours of Crysis on near maxed settings on my current PC - Core 2 Quad, 8 GB RAM, Geforce GTX260, 1680x1050), I still think Uncharted 2 is a significantly better looking game, and the best looking game I've ever seen on any platform.

    Maybe it's just Crysis being at a disadvantage with its setting (I found the jungle level in UC2 pretty bland as well, and hence most of UC1 also wasn't nearly as impressive in my eyes as it clearly was in those of many others) - or maybe I just didn't play Crysis long enough to arrive at any substantially different looking locales? - but in any case I found UC2 to be a far more visually breathtaking game with some absolutely stunning scenery.
    Or in other words, Crysis has a great engine, but UC2 has a great engine and great artwork.
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 15:16

  • Raiten #34 2 years ago

    DKtronics, and you seem to be a stereo-typical console fantard.

    Let's be honest, only an pure idiot would hope for pc gaming to perish, since if pc gaming would perish that would have a large impact on consoles as well. Do you think any of the companies developing tech for pc's would give a fuck about compeating in creating new tech for consoles? no, they wouldn't. The death of PC gaming would eventualy lead to console prices going as high as you'd have to pay for powerfull pcs nowdays.

    You're also quite good at deluding your self from the fact that, pc isn't the only platform where pirating and cheating is present. Like it or not, pirating is high on consoles as well. Not to mention, patching? bugs? as if those dont appear on console games, or hardware failures, software failures, it all hapens on your beloved consoles too.
    I realy do fail to see how pc requires constant upgrade cycle, care to indulge me on that? so far i've bought new pc after 5-6 years, and at the end of their "life cycle" they've still been able to play games on medium to high. Sometimes it's been enough to just switch new parts for close to no cost to improve its lifespan beyond that. I'd dare to say that vast majority of people playing on pc's have the same aproach.

    Last but not least, you can toss numbers all you want but, the base pirce of console isn't what the actual price after you buy everything you need for it ends up at. Good example would be the xbox360 elite bundle i bought for my girlfriend as present, the price of the console was 250€ xbox live gold membership, 59€ additional controller 40€, 2x play&charge kits 40€, now since elite package didnt have HDMI cable in it, she has to buy one for 15€, also needs to buy w-lan for roughly 70€
    So let's add up what's the price in total: 474€
    Price of good gaming pc 600-700€, nope you can't buy 2 consoles for that price, one console and few games being more realistic.

  • foamy #35 2 years ago

    uncanny valley, period.

  • George-Roper #36 2 years ago

    @DKTronics

    >>Haha, QED. That was too easy.

    Good 'ole UncleLou, the stereo-typical PC gamer fantard.

    >>£150-£200 for "a good HDTV" ... can you even get a good HDTV for £600? Your quality threshold must be pretty low!

    Whats inside the TV is more important than whats outside. You can get a decent HDTV with the same panel that goes into the Samsungs and LGs, for less than £250. Add the cost of a Xbox 360 + PS3, and thats roughly £620 - £630 -ish, about the same cost as a PC able to run games on Medium. Only now, you don't have to mess around with Patches, Bugs, Crashes, Micro-Stutter, the CONSTANT upgrade cycle, Windows, Viruses, Starforce, Securom, online validation, and most important of all - Whether the PC is actually going to get any games at all, since most devs have moved on to the more profitable consoles.

    And besides, we all know you PC gamers are pirating, cheats, anyway, and no dev wants their games on a platform that gives them no return, and gets pirated to hell and back.

    I expect some PC gamer will be along in a moment to mention Keyboard & Mouse..something..bla..AA..AF..1920x1080..something....like the world really gives a crap.

    Now, where are those negative scores ? I get turned on just thinking about them.

    You sound like a very bitter and twisted individual, who either can't afford a decent gaming rig or doesn't have the capacity to have one in your mothers cellar.

    PC versions of multiplats are infinitely superior to the console versions, for the very simple reason that if you have a decent spec PC the game will run smoother, with better quality graphics, at higher resolutions and with bucketloads more AA/AF and other 'extras' than current consoles can manage.

    Add in proper keyboard and mouse support, even though you raise your eyebrows at it, and any game which requires fine controls immediately dropkicks the console equiv back to the 19th century.

    Does that make me an elitist PC gamer? I don't think so. Why? Because its just simple techie fact.

    And as for any comments about how PC gaming is plagued with pirates, LOL. Just LOL. You clearly have not seen the state of 360 or Wii. PS3 is the only system to have resisted this so far.

    You could then argue that gameplay is what matters and go on to talk about the Wii, at which case i'd just politely ask you to go fuck yourself with a lorryload of shovelware.


    Thanks

  • Lord_Gremlin #37 2 years ago

    Well, games on PC may be crap in recent years (except for several masterpieces), but on consoles competition will be really tough.

    I mean - for example, if they release Crysis 2 on PS3, it has to be on par with GoW3, Killzone 2 etc. Or it'll be a failure.

  • PearOfAnguish #38 2 years ago

    I don't even need to read this thread

    Er, maybe in future you should read a thread before commenting because nobody is saying anything of the sort.

  • feistycheese #39 2 years ago

    DKTronics

    "Now, where are those negative scores ? I get turned on just thinking about them."

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    Pretty sad and sympathy inducing admission. Personally, I get my kicks from getting caned and screwing my missus. But, hey, if blathering on about how much you hate PC gamers and waiting for the inevitable responses floats your boat, then keep on going. If thats the case though, I would recommend psychological help . . . .

  • PearOfAnguish #40 2 years ago

    Well, games on PC may be crap in recent years

    Are they? Can't say I've noticed.

  • George-Roper #41 2 years ago

    Jaysus, how could I miss this piece of genius from DK...

    Only now, you don't have to mess around with Patches, Bugs, Crashes, Micro-Stutter, the CONSTANT upgrade cycle, Windows, Viruses, Starforce, Securom, online validation, and most important of all - Whether the PC is actually going to get any games at all, since most devs have moved on to the more profitable consoles.

    This isn't 1995, you clearly out-of-date twat.

    And if you want a comparison, I think you'll find that there are plenty of requirements for firmware updates and game patches on todays consoles. You don't want manual patching aggro on PC, then install Steam or some other managed application and let that do all the game updating and patching automatically.

    Windows has never been easier to 'update'.

    You do have a point about viruses, i'll grant you that. Although anyone with any sense will actually have some retraint before clicking on 'GET RIPPED ABS IN 1 WEEK, OR YOUR MONEY BACK' popups. Actually, with your intellect it's probably a good idea to stay away from PCs for this very reason.

  • bad09 #42 2 years ago

    Actually Bloodkult, they do have a point on that one. My sofa isn't very comfy, it's very small....
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 16:22

  • JayG #43 2 years ago

    Funniest thread in ages.

  • Zaiz #44 2 years ago

    Crysis has lovely gameplay and graphics, I hope the console folk get a version that retains most of what we enjoyed. There's something odd about trees breaking into pieces and falling on you, and levels you can tackle pretty much however you want to.

    Oh, and for PC fun, you can make the difficulty settings do all sorts of fun things. On my "easy", I have it set to 30 enemies can shoot at you and hit simultaneously(The base is rather low, I think it doesn't get above 12), superior "shielding" mode, and nearly infinite speed mode for kicks. I wonder if this will still be on console? Maybe an unlockable cheat?

    Although, you can't pay me any amount of money to do the damn alien level over again. That was not fun, not one bit. Confusing level design, completely unclear where to go, and the best way to kill the aliens was to hide in a hole, wait for them to attack you, grab them, then shoot them to death with the SMG. The later aliens, though, they were pretty fun in the armor, because then you could just punch em' to death with strength mode.

  • Pulsar_t #45 2 years ago

    Does this stupid and senseless PC-vs-console have to rear its ugly head whenver a comparison is mentioned? It's not like gaming on either platform is mutually exclusive you know..

    The biggest thing that has hurt PC gaming is the integrated Intel crap. Maybe next year this will improve thanks to discrete chipsets gaining market momentum.

  • trip919 #46 2 years ago

    Until the day they get it running on my DS, I'll remain unimpressed.

  • DKTronics #47 2 years ago

    Keep the HILARIOUS comments coming, chaps, its most amusing watching a bunch of SAD PC nerds coming up with excuse after excuse for your petty, dying platform.
    Perhaps some of you should start by reading the very first post, the post that kick-started this whole affair off in typical arrogant elitist PC snobbery.

    Perhaps you PC Snobs could post some graphs and charts to demonstrate why anybody should give a shit ?
    I know my "Care" meter just committed suicide.

    Perhaps we can compare Alan Wake screenshots when it's released ? Oh wait.......lol.

    Perhaps Epic can finally release GOW 2, when you PC snobs stop stealing the previous GOW from torrent sites ?

    Perhaps you PC snobs can find a SINGLE PC game that looks as good as the PS3's GT5 ? Or Forza 3 ? or Uncharted 2 ?

    Oh well, theres always a dev waiting to bring out ANOTHER RTS, or RPG, or some FPS that noone gives a shit about.
    Keep flying the flag, PC snobs, and fighting those evil console doers, it may be the only thing you'll be doing in a few years.

  • bad09 #48 2 years ago

    Wow DKTronics you are very angry maybe you should lay off the Halo for a while Kiddo.

  • PearOfAnguish #49 2 years ago

    Perhaps some of you should start by reading the very first post, the post that kick-started this whole affair off in typical arrogant elitist PC snobbery.

    You mean the post where someone claimed you needed a monster PC to run Crysis and praised the ability of consoles to run great looking games?


    Hopefully this is just a weak attempt at trolling, I don't want to believe he is being serious.
    Edited by 2 at 05/12/09 @ 18:06

  • UncleLou #50 2 years ago

    You know, there's only one idiotic fanboy in this whole thread who is breathing fire and brimstone. Your out of proportion reactions are a bit worrying, to be honest. Maybe you should step back from gaming for a while if it upsets you that much.
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 18:00

  • George-Roper #51 2 years ago

    Sweet mercy what a ranting, angry little man.

    Oh and BTW, World of Warcraft. That single game flips the middle digit at any attempt to convince people that PC gaming is dying.

  • Synthesis #52 2 years ago

    Create an engine that scales well on all three platforms and is very easy to edit/manipulate in favour of each platforms particular strengths: Fantastic, good idea, do it.

    Create a game that panders to the millions of morons who choose to play FPS games on a control pad and therefore dumb the gameplay down to their level: Awful, bad idea, please don't do it.

    To sum up, scale the graphics for each system but remember that not a single FPS game made for the console has ever been good on anything other than the console it was created for (solely because it was created with the severe limitations the control pads force upon you in FPS games).

    I don't expect Crytek will do an Infinity Ward though.

  • miiiguel #53 2 years ago

    word fighting on weekends instead of playing video-games = FAIL!

    See you monday.

  • Widge #54 2 years ago

    I really didn't feel the Crysis vibe. I've only played Warhead but I found it kinda uninvolving. More shooters like Bioshock please.

  • BartonFink #55 2 years ago

    Christ who pissed in DKTronics' soup?

    There is a fair share of moronic crap coming from both sides though
    Edited by 2 at 05/12/09 @ 19:02

  • BartonFink #56 2 years ago

    Great article should be interesting to see what comes of all this when it eventually comes to the two next gen consoles.
    However it's real home will always be on PC.

  • thomaspower0 #57 2 years ago

    DKTronics forgot the existence of Empire Total War, Anno 1404, Half Life 2 and Counter strike.

  • Pulsar_t #58 2 years ago

    @Widge Now you're talking! I didn't find Crysis to be groundbreaking either. I hope they focus on better content for the sequel.

  • Lord_Gremlin #59 2 years ago

    @DKTronics
    Gave you +1. Don't know why you get thumbs down, I've never noticed too many PC fanboys here.

  • thenastypasty #60 2 years ago

    There must be some idiots posting in this thread,it shows 105 on the front page but when i click on the comments there is only 60 odd.
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 19:37

  • Emmit_Assassin #61 2 years ago

    This is what really annoys me about this gen consoles. We were all sold these machines on the promise of comparable high end pc games quality. What we get is cheap nock-offs and low budget compromises. Now they are saying the 'next gen' will get us there.
    There is nothing in the console market that comes close to the outstanding awesomeness that is Crysis. I haven't even played it as I got rid of my machine to get an Xbox 360. How fucking stupid was I?

    Fuck off, I've had enough. Time to throw a thousand £ at a pc and stick with it come 'next-gen'.

  • DKTronics #62 2 years ago

    >>@DKTronics
    >>Gave you +1. Don't know why you get thumbs down, I've never noticed too many PC fanboys here.

    Shrug, me neither. I always thought this was a GAMERS website, not some nerd clinic for angry elitist PC snobs.
    I used to be like them, mind you, closed minded fool that I was, until I played around with a mate's PS3, GT5 Prologue, Uncharted, and the quite fantastic Super Mario Galaxy on his son's Wii. Now I own both and I'm in love with gaming again, especially this new Mario Bros Wii, with a few mates it's just sublime.
    I even have a semi-decent PC, Core2 E7500 o/c to 4ghz, 4Gb RAM, Point of View GTX 260 216 EXO, Windows 7 x64, and most of the last year's worth of PC games such GTAIV, Grid, NFS Shit, Stalker all 3 games, and I'm bored stiff of the lot of 'em.
    The only games I really enjoy on PC are Trackmania Nations Forever, World Racing 2 - oldie but still enjoy it, a bit of faffing around in GTAIV (completed it 3 times already), and a few Big Fish HOG games, lol.
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/09 @ 19:47

  • Emmit_Assassin #63 2 years ago

    And yet again there are those that think the graphics is what its all about. PC owners would rather have the pretty pictures than the meaningful interaction. I'd rather play FFVII than any this gen/pc game you care to mention, thanks.

  • FooAtari #64 2 years ago

    @Pear
    Hopefully this is just a weak attempt at trolling, I don't want to believe he is being serious.

    Yeah I think your right. I don't understand how anyone could really have so much hate for a box of electronics. Got to be trolling

    @Emmit_Assassin

    Thats great. If there are games on other platforms you like better than anything on the PC that's great. However I mainly use my PC for gaming and graphics is always lower on my priorities list than gameplay.
    So much so that a few of the games I am playing at the moment are over ten years old.

    I have a PS3, 360 and medium spec PC by todays standard. And the PC is by far my most used. There is very little on the PS3 or 360 that interests me. However I understand other people have different preferences and (unlike many others it seem) I'm OK with that.

  • bad09 #65 2 years ago

    "This is what really annoys me about this gen consoles. We were all sold these machines on the promise of comparable high end pc games quality. What we get is cheap nock-offs and low budget compromises. Now they are saying the 'next gen' will get us there.
    There is nothing in the console market that comes close to the outstanding awesomeness that is Crysis. I haven't even played it as I got rid of my machine to get an Xbox 360. How fucking stupid was I? "



    OK, now that it bollocks! For a long time the PC had the edge, but when 360 hit it gave A CURRENT PC spec experience AND a online doorway to the "noobs" with the ease of a console.

    That was and still is an amazing product. Just because graphics cards have moved on (pretty much from 360 launch is amazing on my current rig!), and MS have given us unified console style control over the superior tech we pay for, doesn't takes away from the cheap console that does it for most. 360 fucking rules! Well, did for me.....

    PC gamers chasing the BEST are the real "hardcore" not the PS2 crew pissing on Wiifit (which IS shit BTW). ;)

  • smelly #66 2 years ago

    Sheesh.. and here was me thinking people played games for fun...

    reading the comments in this thread makes me sad.

  • lolife.se #67 2 years ago

    I'd rather see them making it 3rd person for the consoles instead.

    First person is such a horrible experience on console, but in 3rd person you at least get some awareness of the surroundings even though you can't look around and orientate quickly. *And* it would suit the whole power suit action. *And* probably look even cooler.

  • bad09 #68 2 years ago

    Hey Smelly! Tell me, how do you feel about a FPS that ISN'T brown? ;)

  • freakzilla #69 2 years ago

    I really really really hope this works out for them, Just so that it will give Epic some competition, which could mean UE4 will be cheaper than it would otherwise have been. I don't what the hell is going on with id, they haven't shown much of their tech.

  • DarkBytes #70 2 years ago

    slow news day

  • George-Roper #71 2 years ago

    I even have a semi-decent PC, Core2 E7500 o/c to 4ghz, 4Gb RAM, Point of View GTX 260 216 EXO, Windows 7 x64, and most of the last year's worth of PC games such GTAIV, Grid, NFS Shit, Stalker all 3 games, and I'm bored stiff of the lot of 'em.

    Make your mind up. First, PC gaming is dead and its shit because of all the faffing around with the platform (apparently) but now its shit because the games are boring and, well, shit too. And you came to this conclusion in, what, 9 months? How long as Windows 7 been on general availability?

    Except 3 out of 4 games mentioned are console games. And consoles are apparently the future? Which begs the question, if you don't like console games on the PC, why do you like them on, erm, consoles?

    Here's what I think. I think you made that spec up and here's why. In the real world, Windows 7 is simplicity itself to deploy and use. You would literally have to be a fucking moron to be constantly messing about to the degree that you imply is needed to use a PC, day to day.

    Either a troll or a really, really bitter and angry console gamer who can't afford a gaming device that his friends have and that he can see offers a much better gaming experience.

  • Bazfrag #72 2 years ago

    Can Consoles Run Crysis?

    No. Hence they are getting Crysis 2! Simples.

    DKtronics. Can i borrow your rig while my one is being fixed? You are wasting it imo. Also how is that 3rd Stalker game? Didn?t know it was out yet.
    Edited by 1 at 06/12/09 @ 00:07

  • dsmx #73 2 years ago

    No, but they can run a severely compromised version. Not seeing why that article needed to be so long I managed it in 9 words.

    Also thank god for the ignore button it's cut out 30 useless comments.

  • hahayou #74 2 years ago

    @bazfrag

    Out in Germany, etc. 8/10.

    http://ww w.eurogamer.de/articles/s-t-a-l...

  • DKTronics #75 2 years ago

    Wow George, we are an angry PC nerd, aren't we ? Did you post that all by yourself ? Or did your nurse help you ?

    >>And you came to this conclusion in, what, 9 months?

    Umm, George, most of those games have been out a year, with the exception of NFS Shit, and Stalker Call of Pripyat. And as for the faffing around, George, GTAIV took 4 patches before it became less shit, and I've lost count how many Stalker had, before almost giving up and relying on the community to fix it. Great game, superb atmosphere, terribly buggy, an cheating A.I.

    >>How long as Windows 7 been on general availability?

    Never heard of beta testing, then George ? I've been using Win7 for over a year.

    >>Here's what I think. I think you made .....bla.bla...bla.. I couldn't be arsed to read the rest George, simply because you bored the fuck out of me. You're probably one of those with that god-awful hyper-nasa-like voices that just annoy people when you open your gob, or bore the fuck out of people by going on about pleated slats, or the joys of ear wax collecting.
    For the record, I have the following, and if want to believe it or not then thats entirely upto you, either way if we had a graph my caring bar wouldn't even register a pixel.

    Core2duo E7500 - BX code as well, ooo I have VT. Running at 4Ghz, 10x400mhz(1600 bus)
    Asus P5QL Pro P45
    Kingston 4Gb RAM
    PoV nVidia GTX 260 Core 216 896Mb - Modded Quadro 191.66 Win7 drivers.
    Creative Soundblaster Music 24 - Latest kx project drivers
    Windows 7 x64 build 7600
    q19wb 19" Widescreen TFT 1440x900.

    Ok George ?

  • George-Roper #76 2 years ago

    Wow George, we are an angry PC nerd, aren't we ? Did you post that all by yourself ? Or did your nurse help you ?

    >>And you came to this conclusion in, what, 9 months?

    Umm, George, most of those games have been out a year, with the exception of NFS Shit, and Stalker Call of Pripyat. And as for the faffing around, George, GTAIV took 4 patches before it became less shit, and I've lost count how many Stalker had, before almost giving up and relying on the community to fix it. Great game, superb atmosphere, terribly buggy, an cheating A.I.

    >>How long as Windows 7 been on general availability?

    Never heard of beta testing, then George ? I've been using Win7 for over a year.

    >>Here's what I think. I think you made .....bla.bla...bla.. I couldn't be arsed to read the rest George, simply because you bored the fuck out of me. You're probably one of those with that god-awful hyper-nasa-like voices that just annoy people when you open your gob, or bore the fuck out of people by going on about pleated slats, or the joys of ear wax collecting.
    For the record, I have the following, and if want to believe it or not then thats entirely upto you, either way if we had a graph my caring bar wouldn't even register a pixel.

    Core2duo E7500 - BX code as well, ooo I have VT. Running at 4Ghz, 10x400mhz(1600 bus)
    Asus P5QL Pro P45
    Kingston 4Gb RAM
    PoV nVidia GTX 260 Core 216 896Mb - Modded Quadro 191.66 Win7 drivers.
    Creative Soundblaster Music 24 - Latest kx project drivers
    Windows 7 x64 build 7600
    q19wb 19" Widescreen TFT 1440x900.

    May as well start with the obvious. So, with you being on the fringe of hating PC gaming, you took the liberty of beta testing Windows 7 for Microsoft for as long as it's been available. Fair enough. But then you'd also know that the Beta essentially ended when the product was released. Ended in a way that would make your Beta operating system pretty unusable. So you went out and bought a new operating system for a platform that you reportedly hate, only in the last couple of months. Why would you do that, if PC gaming is so shit? Or are you one of these pirating scumbags that you keep going on about?

    My reckoning is that you got a recent game, probably S:COP (where did you buy this from, btw?), cranked all the graphics up and then withered as the frames dropped into single digits. See this is the kicker. You don't have to run games on PCs at max settings. Thats your choice. Unlike, lets say Bayonetta on the PS3 where you have zero choice in lowering the settings to make the game run smoother. But you're so backward, anything less than MAX GRAFIX isn't worth it, even though LOW GRAFIX would be on par with todays consoles standard sub-HD settings.

    What all this bitterness really comes down to is money. You don't have enough of it to keep your PC gaming going, so now youre making do with second best except it really, really grinds your gears. Seeing all these new PC games, pushing the visual boundaries, when you'll be left with cut-down console versions. Using words like 'snob' and 'elitist' only serves to reinforce my opinion on this, as they're words very commonly used when referring to the 'haves' when you're a 'have-not'.

    You're also taking the argument into an odd direction with reference to particular games/genres. GT5, F3 and Uncharted. "You'll never see games that good on a PC!" you shout out. Well, unfortunately whilst we may not see those games, we'll certainly see other games that look better. Just like Crysis, a 2-3 year old PC game that blows any current console game out of the water, for sheer eye candy.

    We won't see the games you refer to on PC, because those games (driving sim and platform) aren't PC platform faves. Just like RTS isn't an console fave. That's nothing to do with quality, simply the target markets and related exclusivity. If GT5 was released on the PC, it would look even better than it does on the PS3 now. Its just a techie fact, my friend.

    But i'll leave it there. You're clearly quite rabid about the situation and I worry about your mental health. Enjoy your consoles.

  • smoothn00dle #77 2 years ago

    PC developers are so arrogant, they think their engine are better than anyone else. Just because PC are the most powerful platform. This may be true ten years ago but no longer in this generation of consoles.

    Uncharted 2, MW2 say Hi

  • Trikk #78 2 years ago

    It's cute when poor people talk about technology, kind of like an African talking about cooking.

    Stick to your autoaiming Call of Doody and Heylos. Pinnacle of modern FPS right there.

  • FooAtari #79 2 years ago

    @DKTronics

    The only people who beta test Windows are the geeky/nerd type who have an a strong interest in computing and technology. This again suggests your trolling. You seem to have more knowledge of PCs than your average person.

    Personaly I have owned just about every console since the 8-bit generation (can you say that?). The PC has always been my favored platform, but most of all I just like games and will buy any platform that has the games I want to play. I really don't see how that makes me a "PC snob". Anyway don't you think throwing those insults around is a little childish? I also noticed, reading back through this thread, you only argued back against select comments of other posters, and ignored those logical comments showing some of the strengths of the PC platform and how consoles benefit from it. Probably because you have no answer for them.

    @dj1917
    Overpaid. Well first I'd guess you have no idea what anyone here does for a living. But even when I was on little more than minimum wage I had a half decent PC. I just, you know, saved a little for it. That was simply a bloody childish comment to make.
    Also, who are you to decide what is and isn't fun? Some people enjoy enjoy building, overclocking and tweaking PC's. So what, Im sure you do a lot of things other people wouldn't find very enjoyable. And anyway how is gaming any less fun because it's on a PC? Who are you judge what people choose to spend their money on and what they find "fun"? I think your trolling too, if not you don't appear to be a very likable person.

    Pretty damn sure you and DK are nothing more than a couple of keyboard warrior 14 year olds. You certainly act that way anyhow.

    Still I've grown tired of you judgmental boys who are coming across as bigger pricks than anyone else in this comment thread trolling or not. The only fanboys and elitests you are accusing everyone else of being is you two. Time to use that ignore button me thinks. It's been a pleasure.
    Edited by 2 at 06/12/09 @ 06:56

  • duckncover #80 2 years ago

    DK, you think PC gaming is dead, I say Blizzard.

    All of your arguments are too random and over-the-top to be anything more than trolling at its very worst. Try being constructive and offer a point of view that isn't full of holes instead of attacking a platform simply because developers have failed to satisfy your high standards for PC this last year.

    There are plenty of PC games that I am looking forward to and I couldn't be happier in the knowledge that you won't be there in them.

  • UncleLou #81 2 years ago

    I would love to play PC games like crysis, but as I am not a) a trust-fund kiddie whopse mummy and daddy buy everything little Tristam wants OR b) an overpaid city wanker sitting

    Now we've got it all, I think. PC gaming should die, PC gamers are anti-social nerds living in mummy's cellar, PC gaming is too expensive. Oh wait, I think the "comfy couch/hunched over the desk" argument is still missing.

    Mindless sheep.
    Edited by 1 at 06/12/09 @ 09:57

  • thomaspower0 #82 2 years ago

    Why would PC gamers be rich? Because they buy a PC + a decent monitor instead of a console and a huge HD television?

  • FooAtari #83 2 years ago

    UncleLou
    b) an overpaid city wanker sitting

    Now we've got it all, I think. PC gaming should die, PC gamers are anti-social nerds living in mummy's cellar, PC gaming is too expensive. Oh wait, I think the "comfy couch/hunched over the desk" argument is still missing.

    Mindless sheep.

    I don't get why spending 600 - 700 on a PC means your overpaid or a city wanker? I guess no one here are owns both a PS3, Xbox360 and a decent HDTV (currently that would be worth maybe 800), last year over a grand. Is it jealousy or something that they don't get paid what the want? Funny thing is I'm neither overpaid and living in the north-east of scotland wouldn't say I'm the city type...

    I don't think I have seen such stupid comments made on EG. Im guessing the comment you quoted came from DK? Just confirms the weak attempt at trolling if you ask me.

    And yeah, really surprised the sofa argument and large TV argument hasn't come up. But then you would have to be an overpaid city wanker to afford a decent large TV...

    @thomas
    Why would PC gamers be rich? Because they buy a PC + a decent monitor instead of a console and a huge HD television?

    Would be interesting to know the answer to that...
    Edited by 3 at 06/12/09 @ 10:15

  • thomaspower0 #84 2 years ago

    I own an Acer M5810 i7 (900 euro's)+ a IIyama 22" E2208HDS(150 euro's), wich is 1050 euro's in total. A regular Acer M5810 with an i5 instead of an i7 costs 700 euro's and is a quite good PC (i5, Nvidea Geforce GT220, 6GB DDR3, 1TB Memory), shouldn't have problems with running games on high. So you could get a good PC + a good screen for 850 euro's.

    Lets compare that to what a normal TV and Xbox 360/PS3 costs.

    Xbox360=200 euro's
    Controller=40 euro's
    /
    PS3=300 euro's
    Controller=40 euro's

    (I added a controller to both because almost everyone wants 2 controllers)
    You usually pay about 600-800 euro's for a full HD 32" TV, 800-1000 for a 42".

    PS3+Controller+32"=940-1140 euro's 42"=1140-1340 euro's
    Xbox360+ Controller+ 32""=840-1040 42""=1040-1240 euro's

    DKTronic's is so right as you can see, PC gamers are snobs.

  • DKTronics #85 2 years ago

    You see, the SAME pathetic arguments from the PC snobs. Kiddie, 14year-old, childish, etc...etc...
    This is why you lot are so hated in the games industry, simply because of your elitist snobbery.
    The fact that none of you can look past your 1920x1080 16xAA 16xAF 60fps £1000 PCs is exactly what makes you snobs.

    I'm bored of the whole PC "Thing", or whatever. The fact that I'm more interested in retro, emulators, and the PS3, Wii, Nintendo DS, even when owning a good PC, just shows how boring the platform has become. And IF I want to stay with it I'm going to have to fork out MORE cash to keep up with the tech side of gaming, even though my own PC is just a year old.

    If you lot would only OPEN your eyes, you would see gaming in a different light, and not just about hardware-bragging rights, or elitist attitudes towards graphics.
    The fact of this whole thread, and one reason I just when on a mental is simply because you PC owners cannot accept that the consoles ARE going to be running Crysis 2 and bloody well, I might add, easily matching a decent spec PC on Medium settings, and thats bloody impressive. Yet, especially after the first comment, you lot just cannot accept that. Instead, you post hate-filled comments towards the consoles, which is why you get "Elitist" thrown at you because thats how you are acting.

    Oh and George, my owning Windows 7 has NOTHING to do with gaming. I simply like the OS, it's damn fast, stable, and works well in what I do, video encoding, music creation, etc.. And if it wasn't for the excellent video tools, Sony Vegas, Avisynth, etc.. and Music tools like Reason, Cubase, I would be using Linux, if only I could actually understand Linux.

  • Katsumoto #86 2 years ago

    No matter what you tell some people, they're convinced that all gaming pcs cost £1000 and go out of date within a year.

    My PC cost £700 quid 2.5 years ago and still runs everything perfectly well. It would have been cheaper if put together myself.

    PC Format this month has an article on building a DX11 pc for under £400.

    But no, if you say something enough times it must be true, so I guess i'll need to go out and spend £1000 upgrading my pc now!

    Similarly, the only elitism or snobbery i've detected in this thread has come from the obvious above named...

    So btw, I own both a HDTV & PS3 -and- a gaming pc. And no, i'm not a corporate lawyer. I "save up". How do I register on your scale? I can't be both a sad elitist nerd and also in tune with the "next-gen" can I?

    Anyway, now is the point where you call me a SAD NERD. I dare you to not use the words "nerd", "elitist", "snobbery" or put any words in capital letters in your next post.

  • bad09 #87 2 years ago

    Cor troll or not this DKTronics talks some bollocks doesn't he?

    For someone who hates PC gaming you sure are going on Mr Troll. Christ, piss off and play your super fan dabby dosey PS3, Wii and DS instead of being a dick. For the love of god I really do hope you are a troll, because you are an complete idiot who knows zero about anything if you actually are being serious sonny.

  • JayG #88 2 years ago

    I've got a psp (where I'm totally in the minority of loving it), xbox 360 (which i love for fifa, smackdown, burnout, etc) ds (which i never play but wife loves), but because I think some games work better on PC I'm an elitist. Turn based strategy games like Age of wonders and Heroes of might and magic are never released on console, and don't think mrs be too impressed with me hogging telly in the evenings anyway. Some of us are old farts who prefer keyboard and mouse to controller, big fucking deal. To be honest I've totally gone off FPS's since they took out most of the fun whatever the format. I miss the games like No one lives forever, duke, sin, where they were actually a laugh to play. Biggest laugh is wheneverone on this forum goes on about PC geeks, fucks sake your posting on computer game site on weekends, we're all sad cunts.

  • DKTronics #89 2 years ago

    And still they whine on.

    PCFormat ? Lol.

    >>PC Format this month has an article on building a DX11 pc for under £400.

    Care ?

  • Katsumoto #90 2 years ago

    "Care ?"

    Well it totally undermines your point, so i'd have thought you would think it quite relevant.

  • Bravestinsane #91 2 years ago

    I was looking at those images on page 1 and 2, comparing similar areas with PC and Console

    "Running on consoles" that's a lie, groundwork they look the same, but all the foliage is completely gone. I was looking at the Image on the PC and PS3, looking onto the mountains in the distance, the PC kicks the living shit out of the PS3, even the sea looks bad, looks like something from an anime a monotone blue, the PC version has a lot more shading, tones to give it a more realistic feel.

    Simply put the PS3 and the X360 versions look god awful.

    I have always been a believer the graphics don't make a game but if they were released looking like that ill happily pass on the games.

  • Widge #92 2 years ago

    I play some stuff on PC and some stuff on PS3. Between the two, I've got pretty much all of gaming covered. I spent out on my PC recently, buying a £100 1GB 4890. Maybe I'll buy a bit of PC every year with a processor next on the shopping list. The amount I save on games makes up for it though... like that mega THQ pack on the Steam sale.

    Some stuff is just better on PC has to be said, RTS games (cliche I know, but its true) for sure and some of the trad RPGs feel like they belong on there. Also everything Valve I'm obviously doing on PC.

    I DO feel like the Crytek games are mainly exercises in pushing technology first and games second. Not saying the games are big failures or anything but I do find them rather unremarkable. One obvious benefit here is that a new game engine has come out of their efforts for the beefy consoles. The 360 and PS3 get their own Cryengine tools and could benefit all, with engines that suit the strengths of each machine. Be interested to see if there is a difference between the engines because so far Unreal Engine on PS3 has been a bit of a square peg in a round hole so far.

  • Widge #93 2 years ago

    Yes, the console versions look godawful. Practically like HD PSP games.

    O_o

  • Bravestinsane #94 2 years ago

    @DKTronics

    My turn to call you out here

    "You see, the SAME pathetic arguments from the PC snobs. Kiddie, 14year-old, childish, etc...etc...
    This is why you lot are so hated in the games industry, simply because of your elitist snobbery.
    The fact that none of you can look past your 1920x1080 16xAA 16xAF 60fps £1000 PCs is exactly what makes you snobs."

    I will cater to that and be a snob...snobbing commencing
    1) My PC is worth over £1500 so perhaps you should call me a super snob or something
    2)1920x1080 ROFLCOPTERS, seriously dude get with the times, over here in PC town we have gone past that measly low setting, im running at 1920x1200 not much more ill admit but beats the shit out of your unscaled 720p graphics.
    3) Most games stop at 8xAA and that's about as far as im willing to go.
    4) Most of my games run at 60FPS AT A MINIMUM, usually higher, but i have a feeling some games cap it at that..


    "I'm bored of the whole PC "Thing", or whatever. The fact that I'm more interested in retro, emulators, and the PS3, Wii, Nintendo DS, even when owning a good PC, just shows how boring the platform has become. And IF I want to stay with it I'm going to have to fork out MORE cash to keep up with the tech side of gaming, even though my own PC is just a year old."

    You called PC gamers pirates on a previous post, well your the fucking retarded prick who obviously doesn't know that Emulators ARE PIRACY... jeese what a dick you really shouldn't of posted that. My PC is over 1 and a half years old now and can STILL play pretty much everything at max settings, AA my have to be reduced to make it smooth but even then it beats your 30fps. I doubt i will need to upgrade anything for another year or two so unlucky on that argument.

    "If you lot would only OPEN your eyes, you would see gaming in a different light, and not just about hardware-bragging rights, or elitist attitudes towards graphics."

    That's funny why the hell do you keep bringing up out AA and Resolutions and high frame rates then if it's not about graphics, you even mentioned it in paragraph one of the post this is replying to... EPIC FAIL that's right i nerded it up how do you feel.

    "The fact of this whole thread, and one reason I just when on a mental is simply because you PC owners cannot accept that the consoles ARE going to be running Crysis 2 and bloody well, I might add, easily matching a decent spec PC on Medium settings, and thats bloody impressive. Yet, especially after the first comment, you lot just cannot accept that. Instead, you post hate-filled comments towards the consoles, which is why you get "Elitist" thrown at you because thats how you are acting."

    Perhaps you should look at the pictures, compare the PS3 screenie on page two with the PC version on Page one, it looks shit to be blunt, very low foliage non existent on the mountains in the background, the see looks the same as it does in Pokemon, all one colour i can see waves, or effects, the AA is non existent, the grass at the front looks like slugs have eaten an endless amount of holes in everything in site. Simply put at it's current state i wouldn't even class that as medium settings.

    "Oh and George, my owning Windows 7 has NOTHING to do with gaming. I simply like the OS, it's damn fast, stable, and works well in what I do, video encoding, music creation, etc.. And if it wasn't for the excellent video tools, Sony Vegas, Avisynth, etc.. and Music tools like Reason, Cubase, I would be using Linux, if only I could actually understand Linux."

    You can't afford a good PC but you can afford several expensive software sweets, who's the pirating scumbag now, at least i paid for my windows 7.



    Now for a few of my own points,

    Fuck you at least i can get a cheap hard drive.

    Refering to your post about all of our patches, at least when we get them we can multi task while we are waiting.

    About Keyboard on mouse, i couldn't care either or i like controllers and keyboard and mouse, at least PC gamers have a choice, your probably that stupid and out dated you don't realise virtually all modern PC games support controllers, mainly the Xbox ones, simply plug it in and it works, THAT RIGHT IT DOESNT NEED A FUCKING PATCH MORON MWUHAHAHA.

    And we can have many programs running at once that doesn't result in having a limit of 100 friends at once.



    Don't really care about any of that as i play Xbox as much if not more than my PC, but im just not an arrogant fool and realise the PC IS the superior platform and ALWAYS will be.

  • holsty101 #95 2 years ago

    A long as you spend enough money on it, right?


    ;-)

  • FooAtari #96 2 years ago

    "I'm bored of the whole PC "Thing", or whatever. The fact that I'm more interested in retro, emulators, and the PS3, Wii, Nintendo DS, even when owning a good PC, just shows how boring the platform has become.

    Yes, because your opinion is representative of the rest of the world... The only person who really cares if you find it boring is you. Im sure many more people find it boring, but many people also enjoy it.

    "And IF I want to stay with it I'm going to have to fork out MORE cash to keep up with the tech side of gaming, even though my own PC is just a year old."

    My PC is over 1 and a half years old now and can STILL play pretty much everything at max settings, AA my have to be reduced to make it smooth but even then it beats your 30fps. I doubt i will need to upgrade anything for another year or two so unlucky on that argument.

    As Bravestinsane points out, that argument is a lot of bollocks. My PC is 3 years old now. It cost me about a grand at the time including a monitor and Windows. Since then I have spent £20 on RAM and £150 on a video card. It still running the latest games at high enough settings to look good. You either do not have a clue what you are talking about, or more likely, are simply trolling.

    Damn you Bravestinsane for quoting DK :) Wouldnt have seen his post otherwise.

  • FogHeart #97 2 years ago

    Not paying for a gold live subscription, and paying about 10 quid less than console equivalent for each game, saves just over £100 a year in my estimation. That's enough to upgrade a component each year. Graphics or processor. You get a new version of directx every 2 or 3 years, prompting the purchase of a card for £100 or so. Processor again every 2 or 3 years. Anything more costly or more often won't give you a good enough return on investment to bother with. So in my experience running a pretty-much-OK PC where the spec is improving each year is not significantly more expensive than running a console where the spec is static.

  • Bravestinsane #98 2 years ago

    That's me FooAtari TwatBuster! ;-)

  • George-Roper #99 2 years ago

    To be fair, Crysis was dogshit.

    States the person with a posting history overwhelmingly based in console gaming...

    Crysis was and still is one of the only FPS games to give such a unique mixture of sandbox-style gameplay in a relatively nice, open environment.

    The game was extremely well presented and remains still one of the very few games out there to bring a close-to-blockbuster movie experience. Music was extremely well done, as was the general 'acting' across the characters, both in terms of voice overs and animation.

    Did it have flaws? Of course it did. It was a bit too short, some sections were annoying and unless you had a nicely kitted out PC, you really didn't get the best from it, visually. Does that mean it was 'dogshit'? No, it doesn't. Not by a long stretch. Nor was Warhead, which in many respects actually went on to deliver an even better experience with Crytek having learned from Crysis.

    Bring on the next Crytek game. It's going to be a stunner and will look superb on my PC :)

  • IneptPercy #100 2 years ago

    I am comment as a gamer with no particular bias to PC or console...

    Personally most games are played on my PC which cost me around £650, as is it is I do a lot of video editing work etc so most of my computers cost is justified by that and its just a better GPU than usual to make it good for gaming.

    As it is I play both PC and consoles on the same TV and with a 360 controller (don't like keyboard and mouse). Basically if its multi platform its PC without a doubt due to better frames rates and usuals. Likewise if a game isn't on PC I will play it on the relevant console.

    I don't have a massive disposable income, but I do spend a bit of it updating my PC and so on because I like to, I usually stick just above the best value curve so get good performance without spending too much.

    I will admit some people may argue that PC gaming isn't plug and play etc which I do partially agree with, but its not as bad as some people make put either.

    So really I am both a PC and console gamer and can see why people may prefer one or the other, but who cares what other are doing?. I am happy with my setup and if somebody else is happy with there's then that's great.

    Lets all be friends?

  • DKTronics #101 2 years ago

    >>Bravestinsane

    I couldn't even be bothered to read all of your post, infact I'm surprised it even made it past the mods. What I did read was full of pure and utter nonsense, low mentality, and to show your complete lack of maturity you attack me personally, rather than my posts. And thats all you PC gamers ever do, cuss and swear like mad, which shows your lack of maturity, you post the usual snobbery and vile shit that just makes you pathetic whiny children. I really will be glad the day the PC dies as a games machine, the sooner the better, and I laugh everytime a dev leaves the platform. Heck, even Microsoft couldn't care a crap, lol.

    What makes you lot even more pathetic is evident on sites like Rage3D where you argue, like it's a religion, over videocards, sodding videocards. I mean, I've never witnessed anything so sad as what goes on on places like Rage. And the fact that you all argue on the same platform. Different platforms, at least, such as PC vs Mac, are amusing to some degree, as are Xbox, Wii, PS3, but you lot take it to a whole new nerd level.

    I'll sum it and thats it.
    You have all proved me right in that, you are all a bunch of Elitist, Whiny, Pathetic, Snobs.
    Still eh, when Crysis 2 comes out on PC you can run to your fave torrent sites and pirate it, them try and justify your piracy with some usual bullshit. Crytek will only see the PC as the platform it really is, and Crysis 2 will be your last game from them, lmao.

  • smelly #102 2 years ago

    >Hey Smelly! Tell me, how do you feel about a FPS that ISN'T brown? ;)

    I've completed the first game, 2nd one didnt run well enough on my pc... was alright.. for yet another fps game... hated the space ship bit tho.. and the end battle had a bug where i had to restart the whole mission (only found that out after 5 hours of fighting giving up and consulting gamefaqs)

  • o_ci2007 #103 2 years ago

    People still have a misconception/stereotype about PC gamers.

  • bad09 #104 2 years ago

    Smelly thought an FPS was alright! I'm telling! Yeah once the ETs show up it certainly does go downhill, I think that view is universal!

    That bug at the end of the game, do mean you didn't do that certain thing you were supposed to ? I didn't first time either and had go back, the moral is do not play with the sound down! :)

    I don't think you are really missing much on Warhead TBH, it's more of the same from what I've seen so far. Good but not essential IMO.

  • PearOfAnguish #105 2 years ago

    Warhead is more of the same, but it does have some great set pieces. Definitely worth playing if you enjoyed the first. Shame they kept the aliens in there though.

  • MENTAL1ST Verified Senior Software Engineer, Picsel UK Ltd. #106 2 years ago

    My PC is (deliberately) roughly the spec of 360 and PS3, albeit with the two gigs of RAM that you can't seem to get away without these days. As such, I played through Crysis and enjoyed it perfectly well at Medium detail.

    According to this article, the concsole versions are going to play out at more-or-less medium detail, with a few tweaks and extra features that are enabled by specialisms in their hardware.

    That all sounds perfectly fine to me.

  • Bravestinsane #107 2 years ago

    @DKTronics

    >>Bravestinsane

    I couldn't even be bothered to read all of your post, infact I'm surprised it even made it past the mods. What I did read was full of pure and utter nonsense, low mentality, and to show your complete lack of maturity you attack me personally, rather than my posts. And thats all you PC gamers ever do, cuss and swear like mad, which shows your lack of maturity, you post the usual snobbery and vile shit that just makes you pathetic whiny children. I really will be glad the day the PC dies as a games machine, the sooner the better, and I laugh everytime a dev leaves the platform. Heck, even Microsoft couldn't care a crap, lol.

    What makes you lot even more pathetic is evident on sites like Rage3D where you argue, like it's a religion, over videocards, sodding videocards. I mean, I've never witnessed anything so sad as what goes on on places like Rage. And the fact that you all argue on the same platform. Different platforms, at least, such as PC vs Mac, are amusing to some degree, as are Xbox, Wii, PS3, but you lot take it to a whole new nerd level.

    I'll sum it and thats it.
    You have all proved me right in that, you are all a bunch of Elitist, Whiny, Pathetic, Snobs.
    Still eh, when Crysis 2 comes out on PC you can run to your fave torrent sites and pirate it, them try and justify your piracy with some usual bullshit. Crytek will only see the PC as the platform it really is, and Crysis 2 will be your last game from them, lmao.

    ___________________


    Eh?

    Never so far this year have i read something that deserved an epic Captain Picard facepalm than what you just said.

    Perhaps then you should read what i said and you will know it isn't nonsense me a PC gamer hardly, check out my gamertag, i can promise you more than anything it has got far more gameplay than my PC ever had. I called you out on everything and im right, tbh you probably have read what i said but have no come back whatsoever, so automatically insult me calling me a nerd and "bundling" me in with the rest of the so called PC nerds.

    To be fair the only reason i am yet to add you as the exclusive first person to my ignore list because you the only person in my adult life that's made me piss myself laughing at the utter garbage that exits your mouth. Never before have i seen such arrogance, and such hypocrisy christ the UK government is less hypocritic than you and that's saying something beyond believe.

    To be totally honest, i don't hate you i don't even have a slightest bit of aggression to you though my posts would seem other wise.

    The only thing i feel towards you is Pity, your sheer stubbornness is incredible, to be unable to admit your wrong when everything you say is made up and not even based on even the slightest correct BASIC knowledge of PC's. Your ineptitude to be able to read a reply to your own comments clearly highlight your immaturity. You act like a midget chav thinking there better than anyone else, the person who takes the lead but really has no strength or truth to their argument. (Sorry only UK people will probably understand that reference"

    So my friend you have my pity i hope you can stop being a total arsehole because you WILL end up a very very lonely old man.

  • SYS64738 #108 2 years ago

    To be honest it seems pretty clear now he's trolling - I just can't imagine someone actually thinking the way he does for real (though it's a big planet with the weirdest people out there admittedly!).

    I'd say ignore him, don't rise to it anymore guys it'll just get him off, or whatever satisfaction he gets from leaving his ... posts here. Pathetic.

  • zErOb_cOOl #109 2 years ago

    I'm interested in graphical and game performance issues between different hardware running CryEngine 3, but more than that I just want Crysis 2 to be a great game.

    I think that Crytek owe it to themselves to build a legendary game on their hard-developed and impressive engine.

    I really feel that Crytek can produce a great game in terms of what Modern Warfare was to the action FPS, but based in the stealth FPS genre.

    I loved the Delta Force games to death, but they were too stark and devoid of physical content. Finally a company has prided itself on vast, detailed outdoor environments, but I've still felt a little funnelled from mission to mission along certain paths.

    I know what I'm about to describe could be the original Crysis, but (IMO) it would be awesome to be put on an island and cause loads of sniper-based havoc with maybe 2 or 3 objectives to meet completely by your own tactics....completely open-ended.
    Edited by 1 at 07/12/09 @ 10:37

  • SYS64738 #110 2 years ago

    What I liked about Crysis is that you have the option to go in all guns blazing or (especially on delta difficulty) snipe and sneak your way through enemy lines.

    Personally I actually preferred Warhead to the original, yes it's shorter (and reflected in the price to be fair), but so much tighter and better set pieces. If they only would've left the aliens out and put more artillery fights in (my fave mission in Crysis 1 was the tank battle level... try to complete that without using a tank on delta for a challenge:) ).

  • PearOfAnguish #111 2 years ago

    Delta mode on Crysis is the only way to play, tons 'o' fun. Not many games get difficulty settings right, but Crysis is spot on. Would like a change of scenery next time, the nanosuit in a city could be great.

  • andromeda #112 2 years ago

    agree with some of the sentiment that the games is just "pretty"
    If it does port over ever, concentrate more on decent gameplay thsi time..

  • CHAZBIGPOTATO #113 2 years ago

    Can't remember who said it but, "your quality threshold must be really low" made me laugh.

    Anyway, who won?

  • FooAtari #114 2 years ago

    agree with some of the sentiment that the games is just "pretty"
    If it does port over ever, concentrate more on decent gameplay thsi time..

    Have you played it? It's a pretty decent FPS with some good ideas and features. It's a solid and fun game.
    But gameplay is objective to a certain extent. Im sure there are games that you think are decent that I don't rate.

    I don't think it will be a port of either of the previous two games if they do a console game, will be a new one. Crysis 2 or whatever,

  • FooAtari #115 2 years ago

    "Heck, even Microsoft couldn't care a crap, lol."

    O RLY?

    [link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/gfw-live-to-g et-games-on-demand
    ]http://ww w.eurogamer.net/articles/gfw-li...[/link]

    Anyway, got to stop taking the bait...

  • SYS64738 #116 2 years ago

    "agree with some of the sentiment that the games is just "pretty"
    If it does port over ever, concentrate more on decent gameplay thsi time.. "

    Define 'decent gameplay' please. Elaborating in a bit more detail about the exact gameplay shortcomings in Crysis would be smashing, too.

  • DiamondIce #117 2 years ago

    In junior school me and my friends used to have arguments regarding the Amstrad CPC 464, Spectrum and C64. I guess gaming never changes...

  • kongzi #118 2 years ago

    maybe if you people repeat your statements again and in bigger fonts somehow the way the industry works will change and pink pussycats will rain from the sky to eat your opponents?

  • thomaspower0 #119 2 years ago

    "You see, the SAME pathetic arguments from the PC snobs. Kiddie, 14year-old, childish, etc...etc...
    This is why you lot are so hated in the games industry, simply because of your elitist snobbery.
    The fact that none of you can look past your 1920x1080 16xAA 16xAF 60fps £1000 PCs is exactly what makes you snobs.

    I'm bored of the whole PC "Thing", or whatever. The fact that I'm more interested in retro, emulators, and the PS3, Wii, Nintendo DS, even when owning a good PC, just shows how boring the platform has become. And IF I want to stay with it I'm going to have to fork out MORE cash to keep up with the tech side of gaming, even though my own PC is just a year old.

    If you lot would only OPEN your eyes, you would see gaming in a different light, and not just about hardware-bragging rights, or elitist attitudes towards graphics.
    The fact of this whole thread, and one reason I just when on a mental is simply because you PC owners cannot accept that the consoles ARE going to be running Crysis 2 and bloody well, I might add, easily matching a decent spec PC on Medium settings, and thats bloody impressive. Yet, especially after the first comment, you lot just cannot accept that. Instead, you post hate-filled comments towards the consoles, which is why you get "Elitist" thrown at you because thats how you are acting.

    Oh and George, my owning Windows 7 has NOTHING to do with gaming. I simply like the OS, it's damn fast, stable, and works well in what I do, video encoding, music creation, etc.. And if it wasn't for the excellent video tools, Sony Vegas, Avisynth, etc.. and Music tools like Reason, Cubase, I would be using Linux, if only I could actually understand Linux."

    Wtf dude, what's the difference between GTA4 on a console and a PC? Tell me what makes it better to play almost exactly the same game on a console. Oh of course, you can sit on a comfortable chair or something, and look at a big (expensive) screen. What a huge difference. It just doesn't matter, if someone likes playing on a PC just let him play!


    Oh, and not every person who knows what "saving money" means is a snob.

  • George-Roper #120 2 years ago

    Because Eurogamer has a feature article history overwhelmingly based in console gaming. I'm not anti-PC. I love my PC. I keep it up to date, and I spend a lot of money on it. I have both Crysis and Crysis Warhead and they run on high settings. They're just not very good FPS games. Simple as that. Boring, repetitive, uninspired. When you're half-way through a game and you literally can't be arsed to complete it, that's a bad sign. It looks nice, though.

    You're just trying to start a fight with a console gamer rather than about whether or not Crysis is actually any good. I say it's dogshit. The number of posts I have in the "console section" is irrelevant. I'm just as much a PC gamer as you or anyone in here, I just happen to have all of the consoles as well.

    But Crysis and Warhead are both good. They're very good. Which is the opposite of 'dogshit'. As you can clearly see on Metacritic, with 91 and 84 respectively. So what you're trying to tell us all is that all these game review sites and reviewers got it wrong, twice, but you got it right on both counts?

    Name me one other FPS that gives you both such an open environment to tackle objectives in the way that you want, and that has the same degree of sandbox gameplay with physics. Oh, and with astounding graphics to boot. Short answer, there isn't one.

    There's one big reason why people get bitter about Crysis and Warhead and thats because they wish they had a PC to play the games as they were meant to be played, at 60fps with all the eye candy on. You were clearly unable to do so, which makes the game 'dogshit', even though so very many people disagree. Not players, particularly. Reviewers. You know, the people who get paid to do the job of deciding if a game is worth paying for or not?

  • Tetsuo_Shima #121 2 years ago

    I think you just exceeded EU quotas with that catch, DKT.

  • o_ci2007 #122 2 years ago

    It is obvious that a lot of people here have never played crysis warhead. Medium settings for Crysis warhead would be the equivalent of 720p setting and that is still pretty good looking. Seeing that some major releases on consoles do not even achieve 720p and still look good, the point is you do not need a massively expensive graphics card to enjoy the game, a £90 4870 or £70 4770 would give you gaming experience equal to the xbox or ps3. The pc has the advantage of that if you are lucky enough you can spend £520 on a 5970 and run multiple screens at 2560 x 1600 resolution and still achieve 43fps average.

  • SYS64738 #123 2 years ago

    @ Jonarob

    What is, in your opinion, the best FPS ever made? With reasons why please. I'm curious!

    By the way if you would've added a simple "IMHO" after the "it's dogshit" comment you could've saved yourself a lot of hassle.

    EDIT oh and I have to agree with your statement re game reviewers. Far Cry 2 is one of the best examples (check metacritic scores vs. comments section, the latter of which i personally agree with) where it went wrong.
    Edited by 1 at 08/12/09 @ 09:57

  • Esnedon #124 2 years ago

    @jonarob:
    Open sandbox games such as Crysis are only boring and repetitive if YOU make them boring and repetitive. You'd do well to remember that.
    Edited by 1 at 08/12/09 @ 12:02

  • Widge #125 2 years ago

    Crysis Warhead I found open and pretty. I did not find it interesting. Plus I shouldn’t have to develop a play style to make it interesting, it should be like that as a default. All I found myself doing was, stealth, kill someone, wait for recharge, stealth, kill someone… plus I didn’t find the AI involving at all. Certainly not legendary. Most guys would spot me, spazz about for a bit while I recharged and became invisible, and I’d just take them out. I could probably have gone for a more direct assault method but this seemed to be the most effective way, so why not use it?

    I plan on having another go, just to see if it was just me. It could very well be. I tend to need a decent narrative to get involved in an FPS. Something like Bioshock got me hooked from the off. Halo had the entire fleeing from the Covenant intro. HalfLife 2 had the great running unarmed from the Combine/what am I doing here? Intro (before devolving into an A to B checkpoint romp ;). Crysis Warhead felt empty. It set objectives but I had little care for them, no involvement.

    Crysis could be a lot better if it was a bit more focussed.

  • Widge #126 2 years ago

    As a benchmark, FPS I have liked:

    Bioshock
    Halo 1 & 2
    Goldeneye (I suppose)

    and these kind of come under the multiplayer umbrella:

    L4D
    Day Of Defeat:Source
    Killzone 2 MP

    So not too much there. I've tried tasters of the likes of Resistance 2, FEAR, Turok, Timeshift, Haze, UT3 and a variety of other "this gen" shooters... not much has sat well with me.

  • Janyamik #127 2 years ago

    of course they can: 1280 x 720p & 30 FPS as framerate top. As in F.E.A.R. 2 -not an open neither a sunny enviroment-, Batman AA or DIRT 1 or 2 (multiplayer mode of the first game is not like in PC).

    Besides funniest thing of Crysis comes after the game -like in HL2-: Let´s play a thing called editor. Maps for multi & 1player and total conversions.

    And gaming at 1920 x 1200 it is not snoob: its modern resolution. 1280 x 720p was a resolution of Max Payne 1 days.

  • Nebula #128 2 years ago

    o_ci2007: "...a £90 4870 or £70 4770 would give you gaming experience equal to the xbox or ps3. The pc has the advantage of that if you are lucky enough you can spend £520 on a 5970 and run multiple screens at 2560 x 1600 resolution and still achieve 43fps average."

    All the screenshots (except CE3 video captures) in the article where with a stock 4890 1GB and an E8400 Dual-core 3.0GHz @3.6GHz. At 1280x720p it maintains a good 45-50fps with very high and edge AA type 2 (first page screens). For second page assimilation shots it is over 100fps at 1280x720p. That and the assimilation shots/TOD shots where with game active as in AI etc.

    With such overhead on framerate one can up res quite a lot+ AA and still be above 30fps. But not detracting that the console achievement is splendid and they are quite cheap nowdays to. I am convinced it will be a win-win situation for all. Really all should be happy.

  • SYS64738 #129 2 years ago

    @ Widge

    all fair points - so it appears you prefer a more 'on-rails' approach to FPS's, and/or involving storyline, you liking Bioshock a lot seems to confirm that.
    Bioshock left me cold personally apart from the interesting setting (after about 4-5 hours I had to force myself through the levels only because I wanted to see the ending - but I didn't enjoy playing the actual game anymore) - the fact you could constantly use the vita chambers while enemies retain their energy levels killed the atmosphere for me; I find this repetitive gameplay style (shoot, get killed, vitachamber, repeat) much worse than the approach you mentioned in Crysis - which is somewhat more difficult pulling off on Delta difficulty.

    But the suit, despite being a good idea, made the game a bit too easy most of the time. And I must say my motivation to finish the Crysis games was more "what setting/level will it throw at me next" rather than the story which was a bit naff to be fair. The only real issue I have with Crysis is the inclusion of aliens, I wish they would have focused on human enemies only.

    But I can accept that the game might not work as much for others as it did for me, as long as they don't just call it dogshit and leave it at that.
    Edited by 1 at 08/12/09 @ 16:31

  • IIR4ZORII #130 2 years ago

    CONSOLES FUCKIN PWN PC!

  • PearOfAnguish #131 2 years ago

    ^ Ah bless, "my first trolling attempt". Did you just get on the internet today?

  • SYS64738 #132 2 years ago

    @ Jonarob

    "To be honest, I thought IMHO was implied in the comments section"

    I'm afraid there are still way too many people that believe that their own opinion is the only valid one on earth, so always good to add it, just in case:)

    All fair enough then, frankly I'm not sure what the fuss is about regarding MW2 either - a mate of mine has it on PS3, out of curiousity I played the infamous airport scene that clearly the dev added for (unnecessary) PR, overall single player is indeed a bit meh (albeit not dogshitty;) ) to be honest...

    The co-op was fun enough but then there were nothing OMG OMG revolution type outstanding features that live up to its hype, years ago I played Delta Force and that was just as much fun if you play it with people in the same room. Maybe we're just getting too old and jaded who knows!

    Personally I prefer the approach-from-different angles approach in Crysis, where the game lets you choose your preferred style of attack, I think it adds to the replayability - you could for example go in all guns blazing while forcing yourself not to use the nanosuit, or not use any of the tanks in the tank battlefield mission - depends on your willpower/fancy of course.
    Edited by 1 at 08/12/09 @ 20:00

  • snarktactical #133 2 years ago

    grandmaster wrote:

    "While Crysis 2 may be console-focused by financial necessity,"

    It isn't a financial necessity, but rather a matter of maximizing profits. AFAIK, Crysis turned a profit, but not to the degree EA was expecting. The actual appeal of the gameplay, as opposed to the graphics, no doubt contributed to that result... but a larger market will, no doubt, correct earning without having to address that problem.

  • snarktactical #134 2 years ago

    DKTronics wrote:

    "Go watch some PS3 Crysis 2 vids on Youtube, all running on a Console costing £235. You'll need to spend 3x that, just to run the game on Medium settings on PC."

    A Geforce 7800GTX will play Crysis just fine at medium settings, 720p resolution, no AA. That's a four year old GPU (very similar to the GPU in the PS3, BTW), that you can buy the equivalent of today for less than US$50. Anyone who owns a PC that has a PCIExpress port doesn't have to spend anything more than that to play Crysis as it will be on consoles. The "whining", as you put it, comes from people who expect to play at >=1080p, Very High settings, and >=4x AA on a cheap PC.

  • snarktactical #135 2 years ago

    DKTronics wrote:

    "Oh please, the excuses you PC snobs use when it comes to gaming gets more pathetic with every post. You just love blaming everyone else, devs, and consoles for your continued downfall. The sooner the PC dies a quick death the better."

    Oh please, you immature teen-age console wankers! The sooner hardcore gaming dies a quick death in favor of casual gaming the better. You blame everyone else: Nintendo, the mass media, and handhelds for your continued downfall.

    *snicker*

    Personally I enjoy being an "elitist PC snob". It means I am both technically literate and financially comfortable. What's more I have the mental capacity to pan the constant stream of ego-inflating pabulum that is fed to console gamers. Seriously, the nearly identical super-human macho protagonists of hardcore console games, suggests a certain fantasy of self-image that console game players covet. The desire for recognition as being the big hero such games evoke mirror the lack of accomplishment in console gamers' real lives. Perhaps if the gaming market targeted more than teenage failures unsure of their manhood, there would be greater diversity in the market...

    (So how was my attempt at trolling? Please rate down if you enjoyed!)

  • Zappa #136 2 years ago

    lol, what a pointless article just to please some crysis fanboy...LOL