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Crytek boss Cevat Yerli reckons Microsoft and Sony will release new consoles in three or four years' time.
"The PlayStation 4 and Xbox '720' will arrive in 2011 or 2012, we think," said Yerli during the Games Convention Developer Conference in Leipzig, watched by GamesIndustry.biz.
"But this is just our estimate - we don't know. And even if Microsoft and Sony told us, I couldn't say because it would be under NDA.
"But we think in three to four years' time, although there are good reasons why it should be 2010 already...but we'll see," he added.
Yerli, speaking about "The Future of Gaming Graphics", said Crytek plans to release a new version of its in-house engine (CryEngine) in 2012, but thinks resolutions of 1080p and 60 frames-per-second will rule the roost until then.
He also believes graphics cards and CPUs are on a collision course, with the former to pick up more general computing tasks and the latter to handle more parallel operations - something software such as DirectX 11 will push towards the end of 2009.
That's a view shared by many, including NVIDIA's Roy Taylor, who said as much when we interviewed him back in June.
CryEngine 2, the power behind Crysis and upcoming standalone expansion Crysis Warhead, took 25 big-brained adults four years to make, and was built upon CryEngine, which took 20 people three years to create.
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Hugh.G.Rection
19/08/08 @ 11:15
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Agreed Dizzy.
'1080p and 6ofps to rule the roost' ... 'Direct X 11' Seriously what the hell. Few games run Direct X 10 now nevermind 11, and only when Wipeout HD arrives will we see if 'proper' (and i use that term loosely) 1080p and 60fps is even possible this console gen, never mind 'ruling the roost till 2012' Also he reckons the next gen should only be 2 years away? Yeah right .. two years from now we'll only just be getting computers capable of running your damn game douche
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michaelius
19/08/08 @ 11:16
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Heh so many wasted time on Crytek engine :D
And it can't even scale properly on multi GPU setups - which you would think be top priority considering Crysis requirments. |
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hiddenranbir
19/08/08 @ 11:34
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Is this the same guy that thought piracy forced Crysis to not sell as well as he thought? Despite not everyone had a PC capable to play it? Is it? Is it?
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jack_klugman
19/08/08 @ 11:40
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If we're not streaming holograms into our brains on beams of light by 2010 colour me disappointed!
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GT5P when it doesn't drop frames, tear or drop to 30fps during replays. OK, so it's not the "finished product" but still...
Someone was saying recently, you know, this gen was all about HD and the 1080p holy grail, but we probably won't reach that as a general benchmark until the next gen. Based on the evidence so far I'm inclined to agree. |
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IronCladChicken
19/08/08 @ 12:00
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@DrDamn
I bloody hope not, 1080p is pretty low-res for a lot of PC gamers (and has been for a good couple of years now) |
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@IronCladChicken
So what are you all displaying this "higher" resolution on then? Search dabs and they 4 monitors with a higher res (2560x1600) and they start at just under £1000. (I'm not counting 1920x1200 as that is too similar to 1080p). You saying "a lot" of PC gamers spend over £1000 on the monitor? |
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@ Darren
So are you saying the likes of Halo 3 on the 360 and GTAIV on the PS3 aren't HD then? They certainly look a lot better than their previous gen counterparts which is all that matters surely? 1080P is seriously overrated in the living room anyway - it's a waste of processing power imo as you need a seriously large screen or seriously small living room to notice any improvement over 720P. |
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Dark_Stranger
19/08/08 @ 12:31
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I predict that within 100 years computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them.
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Collymilad
19/08/08 @ 12:39
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10 year life span my arse.
If "Xbox 720" comes out in 4 years, Sony will HAVE to respond before the 10 year mark - if they think otherwise they are living in the clouds. Gonna be funny. Also, 1080p is not overrated - if used properly. I know most people can't do this but anyone thats played...lets say, Assassins creed on a 720p tv then a 1080p tv can see it's a pretty big difference, and i dont even think AC supports 1080p natively.
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designerheadache
19/08/08 @ 12:39
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most people i know cant afford a next gen console let alone a HD tv with a nice high res, so this seems rather far fetched to me.
the future inst arriving so imminently, otherwise, wears my jet pack? |
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@Collynilad
10 year life span my arse. If "Xbox 720" comes out in 4 years, Sony will HAVE to respond before the 10 year mark - if they think otherwise they are living in the clouds. Gonna be funny. As other people have said, there will be overlap between ps4 and ps3. Sony have released new hardware every 6 years or so. |
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The future is 1080p. This is dictated not by games consoles but, by HD TV broadcasts. It is quite amusing to see some people on this forum trying to make out that consoles will up the resolutions to 2048 by 1535. While on a monitor they may well allow scaling to this resolution. No games will be written in anything near that. Nor will any TV manufacturers waste their time creating sets that can display greater than the maximum broadcast sizes available. Don't even mention that you'd need a new HD format to store a movie at that resolution. What the next gen will almost certainly do is standardise 1920 * 1080 as the native resolution of games from day one.
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@Penhalion
+1 Sweet spot for this gen is 720p. You just need to do some basic sums to see that neither of the current consoles could really do 1080p without making serious sacrifices in the game delivered - regardless of claims. So fine for XBLA or PSN but not going to realistically happen in general. |
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Every time there's a major shift in console technology it takes a generation for it to 'bed in'. Think 2d and the difference between NES and SNES games. Or 3d and the change between PS1 and PS2 games. This time around the big change is to HD (if we're ignoring the Wii for now). I think it'll take until the next set of consoles until developers get to grips with proper HD, and can start doing it well with most of their games.
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Although both current HD consoles are gimped in different ways (and not really very HD after all), I predict that we'll see a new iteration of the Xbox first.
But the thing is: what are these next-gen consoles really supposed to do? Higher framerate, yes, but 60 fps is really the limit for what you need as a gamer. There is not a lot to gain (or notice) from going higher than that, and 100 is pretty absolutely the roof with the current display technology. Which won't be replaced in 4 or even 10 years. Likewise, 1080p resolution is also pretty much as good as it's going to get for a long while. We have to go to the next generation of displays to see any demand for going beyond that, and that is much farther off than 4 years. Maybe 10 years is more like it. So the point is: what are the next-gen consoles going to do, apart from offer "better graphics" that would only be noticable on displays that won't exist (at least not in shops and homes) any time soon? I can see the need to make an Xbox that comes with wifi and HDD built in, but that is hardly enough of an improvement to warrant a new generation. So - what would the next gen have to do, and when will we need it to do it? |
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bodypopper
19/08/08 @ 14:38
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Sony has said it envisaged a 10 year life cycle for PS3 if I remember and I can't see much need for PS4 in the next few years even if Blu Ray goes belly up.
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i bought a new PC (BOARD RAMPAGE, CPU (QUAD-CORE) 3.20 GHZ, 4GB RAM, MEMORY DDR2 1066, ATI HD4870 + HD4870 POWERCOLOR IN CROSSFIRE)... I GET 21.783 IN 3D MARK06 (A GOOD SCORE IN MY OPINION).
the point here is, if in 3 years i cannot run every game in these setup, i will no longer buy a Pc for gaming, and will dedicate exclusively to consoles, these rig cost me 1500 EUROS... oh and by the way i have a monitor HP 24, wich allows me tu run everything 1900x1200 at 85hz. wonder what you guy's think of these machine, opinions much apreciated.
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farticusmaximus
19/08/08 @ 15:11
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"wonder what you guy's think of these machine"
Sounds like it should be relatively future-proofed, at least as much as a PC can be these days. "the point here is, if in 3 years i cannot run every game in these setup" That's the million dollar (or 1500 EUR) question. If people like the Crysis team keep writing games for future PC's then it's unlikely your rig will be sufficient, but then you wouldnt even be able to buy a powerful enough rig in 3 years time ;) |
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Faximus
yeah, you'r right mate, i only bought the PC because the one i was using stoped working... given that fact i decided to buy a durable piece of hardware... i think software companies are influenced and dominated by hardware companies, they program for future hardware to keep consumer buisy trying to update every year... you can see it by Crysis, the high settings can be available in windows XP as well, yet they "downgraded" to only run in Vista, just to sell the Op, such a shame... they don't waste any time in optimization and that's why consoles are a much cheaper/viable solution for gamers, they get what they pay with no bullshit... i aready regret having sold my PS3 to help buying the damn Pc. (i will buy it again as soon as it's price is droped). I run COD4 Full Hd (1900x1200) 16x antialising, anisotropic filter max, textures max etc... at a minimum of 91 fps, UT3 with everything max at 170 FPS, and Crysis at 1900x1200, Hi9gh Settings With no Anti-Alising at 30 fps sometimes lower... get the idea??? oh and by the way, i overclocked the processor from 2.88, to 3.20 GHz... sorry i haven't said it early.
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