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Company of Heroes: Tales of Valor Review

PC Review by Dan Whitehead

8 April, 2009

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Standalone expansion. Is it just me, or is that something of an oxymoron? How can you expand something if you don't even need to own the original thing in the first place? It's a particularly pertinent question as far as the new Company of Heroes disc is concerned, since this standalone package doesn't really offer much in the way of new content. It's clearly not a sequel, but then its slim pickings don't do all that much to expand the game either.

Company of Heroes, of course, was and still is absolutely ace, coaxing top marks from the mercurial Mr Gillen back in 2006. One of the finest RTS games of the last few years, it rose above the herd of similar World War 2 strategy titles and showed that veteran Canadian developer Relic wasn't about to live up to its name.

But when you've got a game that's been so universally acclaimed, where do you take it next? Keep churning out the same stuff and you risk familiarity curdling into contempt. Change things too much and you lose whatever it was that made people go gooey to start with. Fans of this meatiest of strategy challenges therefore can't help but have shivered a little when designer Chris Degnan told us that there was "a drive to make a more casual, friendly experience" for Tales of Valor. Has the 10/10 titan of wartime RTS fallen prey to the dreaded dumbing down?

Sort of.

Tales of Valor's curious construction makes it hard to really get a firm grasp on what its purpose is supposed to be. The core multiplayer component, the bit that made fans gasp and shriek with glee, is much as it's always been. The resource management, the base building, the push to capture strategic points and form supply lines through hostile territory. It's still here, it's still deadly serious, it's still at the mercy of the rather flaky Relic Online system, but at least they've not replaced anything with a quick time event. Phew.

'Company of Heroes: Tales of Valor' Screenshot 1

Clearly, that's not a good idea.

So what, exactly, are you buying in Tales of Valor? "Three new single player campaigns!" shouts the instruction manual with boyish enthusiasm, but since each only features three missions, the word "campaign" seems an overstatement. Tiger Ace follows a single German Panzer crew as they help capture a French town. Causeway puts you in control of US troops in the hours following D-Day, battling to secure a vital bridge. Falaise Pocket casts you as a small Wehrmacht force, sent to aid German troops surrounded by the Allies.

Each is short but sweet, with a nice focus on the gritty, ground-level variables of the battlefield, but they're certainly not the sort of meaty challenges fans will expect. Gameplay has been pared back into something more akin to World in Conflict, although at times it can feel just as much like a hybrid strategy-action game like Syndicate Wars, as you're rarely controlling more than four or five units at a time. World in Conflict and Syndicate Wars are fine inspirations, of course, and there's no denying that it's exciting to take charge of single unique units and guide them from start to finish through a particular offensive, rather than churning dozens of anonymous clones out and lobbing them into action. It's fun, yes, but since it won't take more than a day to storm through their slender narratives, they hardly make for a compelling sales pitch.

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Iain815
08/04/09 @ 23:14
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Do I say 'first' or something now?
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08/04/09 @ 23:22
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You could've told everyone that the game is currently £17.99 at Amazon and Play instead.

http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/8795524/...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Company-Heroes-T...
Plewt
08/04/09 @ 23:29
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I expect better from Relic, they seem to be getting worse with every release. Both the original CoH expansion and DoW2 felt really mediocre. Perhaps they should try another genre for once, get a little inspiration.
frostcircus
08/04/09 @ 23:30
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If you'd like to become even more confused about who this game's target audience is, take a look at the horrendously twee flash introduction at gamersgate.com.

This is a strange, strange product.
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08/04/09 @ 23:31
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The game expands a current installation of Company of Heroes, playing it on its own only allows you to play the as the new army/things/stuff. Adding the game onto a current install allows you to play as all the old armies with all the new maps/stuff/things.

Its quite simple really. Its also a far better way of doing things.

Its not a full price game either. :/
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TitusCrow
08/04/09 @ 23:41
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i loved coh vanilla, hated OP and the arty fest it became and feel meh and ugh? about this one.. relic so seem to have changed in some subtle way overthe last 2 years. I cant quite put my finger on it but something is missing. : /
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09/04/09 @ 00:04
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Sounds pretty weak in terms of content really. Not quite sure I agree with some of the other dissenters because I thought DoW2 was fantastic and way above the original.
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09/04/09 @ 00:36
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Direct control? Coop? It sounds like they want to imitate Men of War.
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09/04/09 @ 05:35
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I loved both OF and DOW2, but then I am talking about single-player, mainly. I am too much of a Relic fan to not pick this up, but the lack of content does sound a little worrying.
UncleLou
09/04/09 @ 05:43
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Its not a full price game either. :/

I think he means it has the standard price for an addon - which surprised me a little as well, I am sure I had read somewhere that it's going to be cheaper.
DerFlange
09/04/09 @ 06:27
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£29.99 on Steam. Bargain!
DerFlange
09/04/09 @ 06:28
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09/04/09 @ 06:31
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I wish EG stopped taking into account Value when deciding on a game's Score. Honestly, it makes no sense to mark down something because retail price isn't what you hoped for.

Imagine how incredibly fustrating must be for developers to see their game marked down because of a RRP they had nothing to do with.

You can simply evalue a game's "Value" in a separate box, or in a paragraph in the review. But NOT in the Score.
Lukree
09/04/09 @ 06:35
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I have to admit that I'm a bit disappointed of what this sounds. But I really really love CoH so any new MP content, modes and maps sound like fun!
DanWhitehead
09/04/09 @ 07:05
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Its not a full price game either. :/

RRP is £29.99. That's full price to me. Even at the reduced price offered at Amazon and other online retailers, it's still a lot for what you get.
DFawkes
09/04/09 @ 08:43
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I thought I owned the first ones, but I don't. If they release them in a pack I'll have them all, but until then I'll pass.
Adam_T
09/04/09 @ 08:46
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I think EVERY Console game should get 6/10 as they as massivly overpriced.

£40 for a game?!?! £50 for a game?!?!?

Screw that crap, mark them down! All decent PC Games at £18 on play :p

Also, Relic are now the kings of expansion packs. They churned out what was it 5 for DoW? I'm sure they'll do the same for CoH & DoW 2.
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dingo75
09/04/09 @ 09:00
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Anyone knows how long the single-player content lasts (hours)?
VendingmachineRed
09/04/09 @ 09:20
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Is there anything I am missing out in multiplayer if I don't own the previous two games?
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09/04/09 @ 09:28
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The bulk of the armies (Wehrmacht, Panzer Elites, British and Americans), surely? You cannot play as them unless you own the game. Others can still play against you as them though. At least that was the case with OP and the original.
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sneetch
09/04/09 @ 09:33
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@DerFlange
Sarcasm gland to full excretion

I LOLed. It was loud and a bit scary for the people around me, I think I'm gonna get fired now. :(
paketep
09/04/09 @ 09:45
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@VendingmachineRed: nope. You get EVERYTHING multiplayer-wise with this.

Also, I'm disappointed the review didn't even mention the new units or maps. Granted, it's not much, but for someone that doesn't own the previous games, this should be 11/10.
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09/04/09 @ 09:51
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@ dingo75
Anyone knows how long the single-player content lasts (hours)?

Weeeeeeeeell, IIRC on average missions in CoH take between 1/2 an hour and an hour to complete, depending on how much turtling you are doing or how hard you push or if you're set back by the cheating hax ai (which cheats and uses hax, btw).

Unless things have drastically changed that I'd imagine the campaign lasts between 4.5 and 9 hours.

However, in the review Dan talks about them saying, "each is short but sweet, with a nice focus on the gritty, ground-level variables of the battlefield, but they're certainly not the sort of meaty challenges fans will expect." That would lead me to believe it's closer to 4.5 hours than 9.

As for DoW2, I thought I'd hate it but I love this love-child of Dawn of War and Dungeon Siege. It has its fathers universe and its mothers loot drops. I'd love to see an XCom style expansion. Give you a fixed, limited roster of marines you can assign and level-up and a truckload of scouts that you could level-up and eventually promote. Allow you to lead your space marines into genestealer infested space hulks, ork roks or eldar ships and embark upon the odd planetary cleansing or two.
Plewt
09/04/09 @ 09:59
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DoW2 no doubt had high production values and was technically good but the tactics and missions quickly became very repetitive. Multiplayer just didn't feel right to me but I didn't play it enough to say more than that.

Anyway, content/price ratio is important to a lot of people and in special cases like this and let's say the "New Play Control" series on Wii I think it's both worth an extra note and that it's sometimes justified to reflect that in the score.

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MrMud
09/04/09 @ 10:07
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The people spouting crap about missing out on armies in multiplayer should stop the disinformation now.
Tales of Valor doesnt add a new army so how would you play if you couldnt play any of the "previous" ones.

No you get access to all 4 armies just like you did if all you owned was Opposing Fronts
FWB
09/04/09 @ 10:12
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Well, looks like I'm wrong then.

That aside, don't think this addon inspires me. If I had money floating about I might consider it, but £30 for no new armies is a bit poor. I've moved onto Men of War anyway.
UncleLou
09/04/09 @ 10:19
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RRP is £29.99. That's full price to me.

Hm, fair enough. It's 29.99 € in Germany (and on Steam), which is the normal price for an addon here.
FWB
09/04/09 @ 10:23
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30 Euros is about 27 quid. Rather pricey.
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09/04/09 @ 10:53
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Quite disappointed in this article. It didn't say much about the multiplayer modes, it's as if someone made a review based on the description on the box rather than playing it ... the entire 'review' is more of a short conclusion on whether or not the new additions are worth the price tag without going into detail about the gameplay itself.

This is something I would expect in 'Consumer Value Magazine' or something, not a gaming reviewing website. Very poor review in my opinion, as it failed to review the game. It reviewed the box description and price tag.
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SixFootHalfling
09/04/09 @ 11:19
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"... the entire 'review' is more of a short conclusion on whether or not the new additions are worth the price tag without going into detail about the gameplay itself."

I'm going to take a guess here, but would the gameplay not be similar to COH?

Or to put it in the words of the reviewer...

"The core game is as beefy as ever, the shift away from micro-management thankfully doesn't feel like it's pandering to the cheap seats"
sneetch
09/04/09 @ 11:20
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@MrMud
The people spouting crap about missing out on armies in multiplayer should stop the disinformation now.
Tales of Valor doesnt add a new army so how would you play if you couldnt play any of the "previous" ones.

No you get access to all 4 armies just like you did if all you owned was Opposing Fronts


Ok, you get all four factions so you can play the three new modes with them (incidentally it's apparently 1 map per new mode, I don't think the review covered that) but does anyone know if this expansion includes the CoH and CoH Opposing Fronts maps and multi-player modes? How many new maps for those modes does this expansion add? What new units does it add? There is very limited information here.

On a side note, I was not at all surprised to note that Steam has apparently stuffed up again, the Euro version has the following:

"Available: 9 April 2009

This game will unlock in approximately 6 hours"

And doesn't list a price (although apparently the price from elsewhere seems to be €30, £30 and $30).

Steam: getting suckier by the day, for your convenience! GG.
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Chufty
09/04/09 @ 12:11
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When comparing prices, look at RRP, not Play's discounted price. £30 RRP is pretty much full price, you rarely see a PC game with an RRP over £35.

This is overpriced, full stop.
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09/04/09 @ 12:27
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@SixFootHalfling: the only thing said about the campaign is that it's short (and the box description) and the multiplayer modes got about one, two phrases each - which don't tell much at all. No mention of the new multiplayer maps either if they're any good. I would have expected the review would focus more on how the new multiplayer modes play, they interest me the most.


The game is short and pricey, but still I wanted to learn more about the game itself.
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paketep
09/04/09 @ 13:11
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@sneetch: Ok, you get all four factions so you can play the three new modes with them (incidentally it's apparently 1 map per new mode, I don't think the review covered that) but does anyone know if this expansion includes the CoH and CoH Opposing Fronts maps and multi-player modes? How many new maps for those modes does this expansion add? What new units does it add? There is very limited information here.

Again: if you buy ToV, you get ALL the multiplayer content in the 3 games.

8 new units (although in reality they are 6 plus 2 variations), 22 new multiplayer maps for the standard VP/Annihilation mode, and just 1 map for each of the new multiplayer modes.
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UncleLou
09/04/09 @ 15:13
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30 Euros is about 27 quid. Rather pricey.

Well, not in Germany. The RRP of a full game is between 39 and 49. PC games are just ridiculously cheap in the UK. Like I said, this seems to be priced like a normal addon outside of the UK, not like a full game. It's also € 29.99 on Gamersgate - again, the typical addon price.
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cragtek
09/04/09 @ 16:16
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This is about two factions short of a guaranteed sale at the moment. Adding the Russians and Japanese has been mooted by fans for so long - I can only surmise a lack of dev time/funds is the reason for their continued omission.
mazuul
09/04/09 @ 16:45
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OMG, Ive been robbed! give me my money back! ffs.. shit... ok i love coh, i love multiplayer, but man, ive paid £25 for what should of been a free patch, dirty robbing bastards... Theres about 12 new campaign missions. each take 15-20 minutes to complete. There 6 new units, all armor/scout, That replace current units, if u so choose, and tbh, they dont add anything special. plus you cant use direct fire in classis 1v1, which was my main stay, new maps have water thats slows your units, so prepare for bogged down units that only serve to frustrate... 2/10

save your money...
Tango
09/04/09 @ 21:15
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Syndicate wars! Are they ever going to remake that?
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10/04/09 @ 03:32
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Yeah, perhaps not the most content-packed expansion in history. They were probably very afraid of imbalancing the game, as happened with DoW I and Opposing Fronts when it first released.

Anyway, since it's CoH and Relic, I'll get it. Hopefully the new multiplayer modes are fun. Also, not that it requires the expansion, but I'm very impressed by the new AI that came along with it. It's really superb and free for everyone with any one of the versions of the game. You've got to commend them for the freebies.


Also, if you're looking to get this online, Impulse carries it for a mere $28. (Yes, even for us Europeans, as far as I can see.) Depending on where you live, that could be perfectly acceptable as far as price goes. And supporting Stardock is of course an added bonus.

http://impulsedriven.com/cohtov


Btw, how about a more subtle "has been edited"-text, EG?
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ExplodingClown
10/04/09 @ 08:20
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I'm with Plewt. DOW2 felt nerfed. Cover and move, cover and move... the visceral violence of the first one seemed absent too.

My heart was full of hope for Homeworld 3. Trepidation has now crept in.
kwesleyb
02/05/09 @ 19:29
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Why has shopto.net got this review with a score of 10/10 when its clearly 7/10 on here?

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