Capcom responds to PS3 fanboys
DMC4 stokes Internet rage.
Capcom has officially responded to allegations that it was "turning its back" on Sony by denying PS3 an exclusive in Devil May Cry 4.
Senior director of strategic planning and research for the game giant, Christian Svensson, insisted making the title as widely available as possible was the best decision for Capcom.
"We are certainly moved that people are so passionate about our products that they would go to such extremes," Svensson responded on the Capcom forums. "At the same time we feel that allowing more people access to our content pleases far more people than it displeases (after all, we're not denying DMC4 to anyone that was already going to get it)."
"It really is the best decision for the company and for consumers."
Outrage erupted after Capcom announced it would be bringing DMC4 to Xbox 360 and PC just a few days before the PlayStation 3 launch in Europe.
The move scores Microsoft another exclusive-pinching point, famously joining Grand Theft Auto IV and Pro Evolution Soccer on the Xbox 360.
DMC4 will launch on both consoles simultaneously, with the PC version expected a little later. A release date is yet to be confirmed.
Pop over to our Devil May Cry 4 gamepage for more information.
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And i thought Nintendo fanboys were bad.
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*looks at watch*
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Now ask me again in the autumn and hopefully il be busy shaking the moths out and joinging the bandwagon.
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The more the merrier...
Although I can understand why the fanboys are all riled-up about it...
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The logical conclusion is that Capcom fans are only-children who are not used to sharing their toys.
"Sony is gonna use all sorts of hardware tricks and effects that only the PS3 can do to keep them from being ported"
But Sony isn't developing the game, and it would hardly be difficult to remove these exclusive features from a port. Is there even anything the PS3 can do that the Xbox can't?
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You only have to look at the sucess of Lost Planet and Dead Rising (both number 1s and platinum sellers) to see why they did it.
Can't wait to see what the Sony bum-boys do when FFXIII OR MGS4 come over to the 360...
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Hehehe.. like what?
>Fanboy May Cry
ROFL
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I agree matey, Tekken on 360 would be bang on!
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FFXIII exclusivity uncertain
So that just leaves Metal Gear...
EDIT: GramR Ror
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And what will it do that the 360 can't? Have amazing NEXT GENERATION BLU-RAY FEATURES, like erm...picture-in-picture?
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POSTER: What I am wondering, is since Capcom has claimed "Capcom is committed to making its titles available to as wide an audience as possible," does that mean Capcom will be making games that were exclusive to the Xbox 360 cross platform as they did with Devil May Cry or is that quote from Capcom more of just a PR man doing their job? Thanks
SVEN: A good and fair question.
The answer is that despite recognizing the demand for them, Dead Rising and Lost Planet are not slated to appear on Wii or PS3. The reasons for this are quite convoluted and I'm bound by NDAs on these matters so I can't divulge why this is the situation.
http://ww w.capcom.com/BBS/showpost.php?p...
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Which is very little, clearly.
You're going to have to be much more specific about the amazing features of the PS3.
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DMC3 SP was released on PC and no fanboy complained, so it`s pretty much assured that the 360 version is the one they`re angry about.
Theses guys don`t love games, they are brainless stupid pieces of nothing that go smiling with everything sony says.
This way everyone will be able to play the game and that is great.
I have a 360 and i`m gonna buy a PS3 and I don`t see the problem here.
PS : Kojima said that with more time and money a 360 version of MGS4 is possible even if they ahve to cut down some stuff.
PS2 : Fanboyism is sick, get a life!
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@GrantM
The only advantage the PS3 has over the 360 is greater capacity on its Blu-Ray discs. As such, the worst case scenario would simply be having FFXIII OR MGS4 on multiple DVDs. No big deal really.
Konami and Square will make it happen if they really want it to.
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And I have Raiden III on my MOBILE PHONE.
My point is, you can port any game to any platform with relative success, and you can definitely port any 360 game to the PS3 and viceversa. Can there be minimal differences... like graphic differences? Well yes, but they will not amount to any obstacle to the experience.
Don't believe the PR hype.
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Yes it did come out on PC, but like most other Capcom ports to PC (Onimusha 3 and Resi 4) it turned out shit. Hopefully, DMC4 will be a different story...
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Sony Fanboys: 'Devil may cry' me a river ;P
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I think more than ever he is right!
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"Don't be a victim of hype"
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Look at my previous post, FFXIII's exclusivity is already under discussion...
Not attacking you or anything, just reminding that ports are almost always feasible like Zuiyo pointed out...
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Sony fanboys are teh fuckwits.
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Christ. Someone donate these people a life......
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Pathetic stuff.
Don't PS3 fanboys have better things to do than whine?
/boots MotorStorm
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If sonyfanboys are not gonna buy it, let`s ask CAPCOM to not waste money and make it a 360 exclusive.
MUWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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"I'm trying to decide if it's worth keeping this thread open... it seems to have run its course, gone off course, rolled down a cliff, hit a cow and then exploded. "
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Though I'd much prefer to see a more even split between X360 and PS3
Like Megadrive vs SNES, having one overly domenent system, is just bad generally
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And 120 mb optical fiber broadband as minimum worldwide standard.
And Hillary at the White House for two legislatures. Then we would be talking.
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Like Megadrive vs SNES, having one overly domenent system, is just bad generally
+1 Competition FTW
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The only way Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft can gurantee an exclusive for their console is if they either:
a)spend a shit-load of money securing it as an exclusive
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b)the game is first patry published/developed
Why would 3rd party developers chose to hamper their turnover for a game by releasing it on one console? Tis' madness!
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Also, remember that any games made on the 360 are 'almost' free to do a reasonable PC port apart from compatibility testing.
Of course, if the Xbox360 & Wii go from strength to strength, expect to see more exclusive titles on those two machines.
The reason the PS2 had so many exclusives is because of the user base, nothing to do with the power of the machine.
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Erm. Not really a difficult decision really.
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Capcom shouldn't have responded to such obvious stupidity.
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c) The game cannot be done on the other console...
Applies mostly to wavey games which the Wii has...
Wario Ware for instance...
Hey JMM, how's the machine?
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Ok I read an interview with Hideo Kojima where he said himself that it's nothing with MGS4 technical that wouldn't make it possible to run on the 360.
How do you explain that?
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Wake up and smell the coffee doofusses.
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"Hillary at the White House for two legislatures"
Not when she has Jack 'Moth Nops' Thompson as an adviser on video games.
If she can have such a rabid lunatic for something like THAT, imagine what her security advisers and military chiefs would be like.
"I know - let's invade anywhere ending in -stan; they're always too hard to pronounce anyways."
"But what will be build there instead?"
"Parking lot?"
"Get's my vote."
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If I were a publisher I'd look at the next-gen market right now, and excluding the Wii, I bet it's really thin. You have some 10m 360s another 1-2m PS3s.
As much as Sony can get the PS3 numbers up by year's end (and many of these games will be out before that) it's just not a safe bet for exclusives right now. It doesn't even matter if Sony's to blame for their strategy with PS3 or not.
MS's year alone in the market has paid off and turned into another year or more of, at least, equal competition with Sony.
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All 1st party titles dude.... apples and oranges.
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But Sony isn't developing the game, and it would hardly be difficult to remove these exclusive features from a port. Is there even anything the PS3 can do that the Xbox can't?
50Gb of streaming video? That would seem the obvious answer for MGS and FF...
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Hey JMM, got that BT headset already?
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I mean, jesus, i couldnt give a shit if they released Halo on the PS3 as long as bungie used the money to finance more good games.
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I totally agree, just seems at the mo, that MS are close to tipping the balance nocking Sony out of the game. But then I guess the online comunity aren't actually representative of the market.
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Well, my point is that they're not universally acclaimed by me. In fact, they both bore the tits off me with laboriously long cutscenes.
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Seriously, I reckon in a year or so the only exclusive games will be the in-house ones.
If it means I can play Lost Planet & Dead Rising on my PS3, and in a broader sense add to a console's game catalogue, where's the harm?
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The fact that more devs are not renewing their exclusivity agreements with a console manufacturer that has shipped late and doesn't look so hot right now (mere months after launch) should certainly not be surprising. I would be surprised if many previous 3rd party exclusivity agreements exist at all by the end of this generation...
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Wow!! O_O
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Its more a case of what porting takes Konami's (rather eclectic) fancy really, rather than any major technical limitations I can see.
As for DMC... Meh.
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Wow!! O_O"
= 7680 people who should be shot in the face as a matter of principle
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Retards. ¬_¬
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Tsk... stupid Sony fanboys. Xbox and Nintendo gamers would never make such a fuss if Halo, PGR, Mario, Metroid or Zelda went multi-platform...
As someone pointed out, you're talking first party titles there, games that are kinda owned by the companies themselves - odds are pretty good that you're not going to see them wander too far from their spiritual homes. Devil May Cry 4 - as well as MGS4 and FFXIII - are all third-party. Sony don't own these franchises, so the comapnies in question are more or less free to port to other machines. If Sony wants exclusives, they'll have to pay. Until they do, the franchises will be spread across PS3 and 360 to broaden appeal and most importantly, sell more copies so they make more money.
Pretty simple logic really... trying to think of a Sony first-party title that I'm looking forward to...
*silence for the next thirty minutes*
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RE4 ring a bell?
Hell go back to the PSone era and i bet it was bloody murder when FFVII went exclusively to PSone.
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"On past form, the launch of the PlayStation 3 should have provided a guaranteed quick buck for anyone lucky enough to secure a pre-ordered console, but eBay’s pricelist suggests that this time round the touts have misjudged demand.
When the Xbox 360 and PlayStation Portable arrived they were fetching two or three times their asking prices on the online auction site, but Sony’s latest console is going for about £400, £25 less than the recommended retail price.
The problem for the PS3 touts is that the console is still readily available on the high street. Delays to the launch in Europe allowed Sony to build up large stocks, including an allocation of 220,000 for the UK.
“This is by far and away the largest stock allocation for any console launch there has ever been in the UK,” Jonathan Fargher, a Sony spokesman, said. Microsoft supplied an estimated 70,000 Xbox 360s for its UK launch. "
http://te chnology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/...
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...but it's ebay.
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I would SO list you, but one game should be enough.
The next team Ico game, doesn't even need a name.
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As a petition, its not exactly going to invoke a policy rethink at board level, but as a snapshot of the gaming populous.......well, it paints a pretty pathetic picture.
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Hmmm... God Of War 3? The next WipeOut (that uses the MotorStorm engine)? Lair? Heavenly Sword? GT5? LittleBigPlanet?
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I bet less than 10% of them gimps that signed will actually boycott Capcom products . . . .tossers!
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We always say it, but if Square-Enix announced the much-rumoured FF7 remake for the PS3, a purchase for the majority would be an absolute no-brainer...
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Apart from the engine being multiplatform compatible.
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"We have no idea what DMC is, but we like signing petitions which mean nothing to anyone."
-inspired by NewYork
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Of course love.
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" How dare you, Capcom, of even thinkin of bringing DMC4 to the 360? For the last 2 generations, it has been Sony products that were associated with your success. When RE4 sales became stagnant on the Gamecube, attach rates were better on the PS2. The same applies for the Viewtiful Joe series. What's worse is that you are supporting a company that saw lackluster sales of your port of Onimusha and exclusive title, Dino Crisis 3. Another title that sticks out is MGS2: Substance from Konami. And don't go as far as to say that development costs are also a reason because it has been over a year and still no word of Dead Alive or Lost Odyssey making their way to the PS3. It seems as Microsoft are at work pulling your strings. I always thought the Japenese are loyal and honest towards one another, but I guess the Spirit of Capitalism has blinded you. You may think you are doing a wise choice, but it's the consumer that holds the key to your fates. SONY FANS UNITE!!!!!!!!! THE BOYCOTT SHALL COME INTO FULL SWING!!!!!!!"
GLOL!!!
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"It hardly bares thinking about how the Nintendo drones would respond."
Oh yeah.. they really cried when RE4 went to ps2 too didnt they? Oh, no the didnt, they just shrugged their shoulders and said "meh, means more people get to play a great game".
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HUGE difference!!!
If it had gone mult-platform and came out on nintendo AND ps1, then there wouldve been no means to complain. But having a game go over to exclusively on another platform.. means you cant play it UNLESS you buy the other system.
If this had moved from ps3 to 360 exclusive, you can understand the uproar.. But all thats happened is it's gone multi-platform.. which means more people can play the game.
This is going to happen to the majority of 360/ps3 games.. They'll both (for the most part) get the same games as each other. The reason? Because they're both equally as powered (give or take), and it costs a small fortune to dev on them.
So it'd be stupid NOT to make all games work on both platforms..
seriously if yer upset by this.. you need to get a life.
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They dont care about exclusivity, etc. If you're making a game for the 360 you may as well make it work on ps3, and vice versa. (unless of course one absolutely bombs in sales, in which case then you dont make games for that one).
Hell .. If the wii does keep selling more than the other two (unlikely - but you never know).. Then you'll see a damn site more games on that than the other two, and you well start seeing a mass exodus of devs moving over to it. As that'd make the most sense - regardless of how much power it does or doesnt have.
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If not, i can lend you some remedial economics books for 6 year olds..
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is a possibility (360) as it is technically possible"
Virtua Tennis, Virtua Fighter 5, Devil May Cry 4, Assassin Creed, Gta 4, Merchanires 2...all once exclusives to PS3 - Not now there not!
With GT facing Forza Racing + Project Gothem racing 4, Moto GP 07, Final Fantasy facing Mass Effect, Lost Oddysee, Cry-On (by the guy who made Panzaar Dragoon Saga rpg), i thing for gaming 360 is the way.
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Since when did Capcom take over Konami, you big idiot...
I recently read an interview with the developers of DMC4 about how the game couldn't be ported to the 360 without serious concessions being made to the game. The interview was of course being taken before this announcement. So there's two possibilities: 1) those guys were talking shit; 2) DMC4 will turn out as a worse game. I fear it's both though...
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Seriously, I cant see a single reason why this matters jot to anyone?
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Seriously, I cant see a single reason why this matters jot to anyone?"
Because multi-platform games are crap. That's why Nintendo's strategy is so great: it's impossible to make crappy ports for its platform. Multi-platform gaming is terrible and will always lead to a suboptimal game. But as it also leads to filled coffers for the publishers in the short term it'll probably never go away.
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If you look at any game and think "wow, that console is worth the price" then in my book, you're an idiot.
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WTF? Where's your proof in this? It makes bog all difference.
Sure if you have a multiplaform game which has to work on both hi-spec and lo-spec machines then yes.. it will be (i.e. ps2/xbox or indeed ps3/wii).
But when the machines are nearly equally specced (360/ps3) then there wont be a jot of difference to the end users.
Was resi 4 crap because it ended up on wii and ps2? No. Is oblivion crap because it's on ps3/360 (erm, well i think so.. but loads of other people dont), etc etc.
That's a nonsense argument.
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Surely the whole point of choosing one console over another is the games?
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The first three Devil May Cry games used Rumble technology that I really did enjoy. Only the Xbox 360 can provide that experience for Devil May Cry 4.
I will be getting the Xbox 360 version.
Games released on both systems always have better overall graphics and online features on the Xbox 360.
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That's the problem, they're not equally specced. They each have their own specific architecture and therefore strengths and weaknesses. Within the 'last gen' CPU architectures were more or less alike (all single core, no SPU's, etc.), now that's no longer the case.
"Surely the whole point of choosing one console over another is the games?"
Exactly, you're using the plural.
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Fuck sake. These schmucks don't deserve free speech.
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