Call of Duty: World at War Comments by Dan Whitehead

Nothing to see here COD 6 is where it's at.

"try and deviate from the prescribed path and the illusion is broken, with AI team mates who only advance once you've killed an unexplained number of specific enemies"

Simply unacceptable in this day and age.

Infinity Ward are just as guilty as Treyarch for this.

@karstux: Agreed 100%, and it's pretty baffling that there's not more furore over this

Game rankings 88% overall so its not doing to bad, just play it for what it is, a great cinematic War Game. Xmas number 1!

I have just finshed single player and yes I must admit the team AI is a little shabby and I did want to run of the rails and flank the enemy, but otherwise it was great fun with the vehicle levels adding some variation.

I totally agree with the comments on the Russian Campaign. I WANT MORE! Adds a whole new dimension to the conflict. Germans kicked the Russians around in Barborosa then the Russians went back with avangance and a Stalingrad game would be amazing! Hark back to the days of MOH AA and the Stalingrad MP map.... Glory days!

8/10 is a good and honest score.

gah - another chance at infinitely respawning troops = no sale

EG, please ban anyone who ever types "Read like a..."

I fear everyone is going to be disappointed with IW's next version after waiting so long. Hopefully not but I think we'll prob all be tired of the scripted.....ness of their games.

@karstux

I was always surprised there wasn't more of a fuss for them putting zombies in the game.

Surprise!

Christ, I never thought I would ever find myself writing "doesn't read like an 8", but I think the day might have finally arrived.

Given the stack of FPS games out there, I found nothing here that suggested this should be a contender for my money. The positives seemed to focus almost exclusively on the graphical presentation, and yet the game is apparently "***".


*** is the bit where I was going to quote from EGs review policy. But I'll be damned if I can find it. ANYWHERE.

Pity it's not a Nazi Zombie survival game with the shitty blockbuster World War 2 game as the unlockable.

I also would like EG to explain how they can slag the game off for almost the entire review and then expect us to swallow 8/10. The review reads like a 5 or 6, the very good score has not been justified in any way; especially not in the face of extremely contentious issues like the dogs and zombies and poor AI and linearity.

Eurogamer is a bit unfair about the dogs, they're much better than the dogs which can magically shoot you when your inside, they are clearly campers who get mauled and so dont like them cause their shit, as crap as the bolt rifles were im still getting as i managed to get 53 - 4 KD ratio with a scoped mosin nagant, bouncing bettys and a russian pistol/ thompson.

Also to eeryone taking this review as gospel, gears 1 got an 8/10 on here and a 9.3/10 on metacritic so clearly eurogamer is harsher than most, nowadays i never take one reviews word for it i only read the text of about 3/4 then look at the metacritic score, so ill still get this one with a 86.

Better review that I thought it would get. A discount purchase for sure still.

left4 Dead is only 1 week away!!!!

Its funny, the game got criticised for the very things which were in CoD4. Yet CoD4 was hailed like it was a gaming god.

Do you get an achievement for raping 2 million german women on the way to Berlin

Not sure if I can stand *another* push into Berlin.

getting your arse handed to you by the americans who'd had the game for a few days before us brits, ie. no rank restricted rooms.

There's low rank rooms in this versions MP, so noobies to the game won't get arse's handed back left right and centre :D

Here's hoping for a game with the guts to tell some of the story from the Axis side instead of just relegating them to a multiplayer "side".

Good thing there’s a convenient last minute rescue about to take place, or this would be a very short game.

GoW2 is full of "conveniences".

Oh that was convenient that the falling buildinga had formed a path.
Oh that was convenient that this lever was here.

etc, etc

ShineDog: "Review didn't mention the music. it is godawful."

Absolutely. I was playing mission two last night - storming a beach - and a metal riff came into the soundtrack. It literally stopped me in my tracks. I was stunned by how inappropriate it was and it completely ruined any immersion.

I think someone made a big misjudgement in how to present this game. They've taken a sensitive subject and horrific footage, then chavved it up with a bold MTV graphics and an awful modern soundtrack.

well, the multiplayer beta was gash.

Here's hoping for a game with the guts to tell some of the story from the Axis side instead of just relegating them to a multiplayer "side".

NO!

@samk - "Absolutely. I was playing mission two last night - storming a beach - and a metal riff came into the soundtrack. It literally stopped me in my tracks. I was stunned by how inappropriate it was and it completely ruined any immersion."

Yep, I heard the same and thought "What the hell?!?". I mean this is modern hideous rock music being played in a game set in 1944 and pre-dates rock 'n' roll even by a good decade. It sounds horribly out of place and jarring. Whoever thought that was a good idea needs to be shot IMO (no pun intended). The music elsewhere is pretty good though and epic so I just about forgive that absurdity. Just.

I've canceled by pre-order because those dogs are the most annoying thing in history of world gaming :)

This will be the first ever COD game I don't buy, but its gameplay not pretty graphics Im after.

dynarama said: 8 sir? Totally read like a 6
This.

I don't see how this review ended up being an 8 seeing as how it reads in almost an entirely negative way. It sounds exactly as I expected though, a lazy, generic step back into the safety of WWII, but taking as many elements of CoD4 as they could get away with and using big explosions to try and hide a poor game. Any sequel that has CoD4 to build upon should be fantastic, it should at least be as good as CoD4, and should push and strive to make it even better. I don't see why anyone would want to pay good money for a poor-man's version of last year's game.

we're still waiting for the cod4 multiplayer review you promised a year ago :)

So not as good as Halo, Gears. Better than MGS,

Sorry couldn't resist.

Total pass for me, the MP demo was more like 6 or 7

So this game has a four player co-op campaign over a LAN? I've read elsewhere that it was online only, anyone confirm this either way? Hosting a LAN party tomorrow and 4 player co-op would rock.

@karstux

completely agree.

EPIC FAIL! i never really understood the hype around the last one either.

you guys are seriously sad on here. Personally I think this review is CRAP ! You can tell the person writing it loves COD4 and get away from the fact WW2 has more depth and various battles going on at once.
I have played the game and personally think it's better than COD4. THe graphics are better for a start, and secondly there are alot more options on perks/guns and additional content.

Get a life people and play the game before you slate it.

I'd suggest buying a second copy of COD4 instead

The irony of someone getting upset over other people not liking a game telling them to "get a life". I've seen enough of the game from the de... er, beta to understand that it is not worth my money.

snooze, repeat all the same mistakes you have made before, good shit. do no want.

No Biritsh campaign= epic fail
split screen co-op = COOL!
still.....not sure to be honest. I think I'll wait. Too many other games to play.

8?? lol nahhh more like a 7. Jeez

"I would love a Call of Duty game that covered Stalingrad. The Russian Campaign in 2 left me wanting more. "

I agree.

COD2 clearly the best game of the series in my book, particularly cos of the awesome atmosphere in the Russian campaign. That still stands out as the defining next-gen experience for me 3 years on ...

COD:WAW sounds like COD3 made with the COD4 engine - I.E. better graphics etc again but fuck-all atmosphere.

I thought the review review was pretty spot imo.
I didn't expect much from this game, not because its made by Treyarch, but simply because of the direction where the franchise has been heading. COD4 was good, but almost exclusively because of its mp, not saying the sp was bad, but it was lacking and too heavily scripted without any replayability. COD5 pretty much confirmed to me that the sp portion will from now on be a tacked on addition unless they really decide to mix up their formula (they won't). If I decide to buy another COD it'll be for its mp only as that is all they really are now.

"'NAZI ZOMBIE MODE!'. That last one sounds like great fun, but try and treat the subject matter with the dignity it so obviously deserves and be a bit more delicate about it."

Delicate about what? They are Nazi's.. They killed hundreds fo thousends of our Great Great uncle's, grandfathers etc. Delicate about it is insulting, they can rot for all I care.

However, I do feel that the campagin for COd should be a bit more delicate adn less yay another plane blowing up wooo look at that! wow! It's not wow, its not OMG cool. It was once someone dying a not very nice death, it shouldnt be treated with such disrespect.

@Truk

Cheers for the link. Silly me, there was I thinking it might be in the standard website pages, such as under the "How we work" section. Shows what I know about websites ;)

Anyone who wants Stalingrad should just find a cheap copy of the original CoD, it's there in all its stolen from "Enemy at the Gates" glory. It even finishes with taking the Reichstag...

It'll run on pretty much any slightly reasonable PC as it's Quake 3 engine title. It also has the best CoD level ever with Pegasus Bridge.

FFS, COD4 only got one point more! WW2 is a great setting. Looking forward to playing this.

"some of the sections were seemingly impossible until I found the hidden "trigger point" to stop the enemy spawning - thats the mopst irritating thing of all"

True of ALL COD games.

I consider 8 scrores almost worthy of purchase even if I had some doubts. But after reading, an 8?

8 is meant to be really bloody good but it doesnt come across like that (to me at least).

You might as well dump scores 1-7 :-/

Eurogamer overscoring a generic me-too first person shooter? Surely not...

It's a shame they went back to WW2, I'm sick of WW2 shooters, it's just all the same. I was really hoping for more COD4 type fresh modern settings. I was really disappointed when Treyarch announced they were setting it in the Japanese fight of WW2. Hopefully the COD game InfinityWard are working on is going to be awesome like COD4

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i loved CoD 4, and even CoD 3 i thought was amazing, though the mp was a tack-on and any rank-ups were lost each reboot. this fixes that problem and has the CoD4 engine. and i loved the tanks in multiplayer, for me thats enough to make this a great game. i bought CoD2 for dead cheap and i must say - its shit. very disappointing. maybe it was good the first time around, but playing it after 3 and 4, its horrid.

after the travesty that was far cry 2, give me linear levels and straight up shooting action ANY DAY!

also there were dogs in CoD4, doesnt anyone remember?! a click of the stick as its about to sink its teeth into you was enough to easily dispatch of these mutts, 100% of the time - assuming you got the timing right.. whats the problem?! dont see it being any more difficult in multiplayer, plus you need a 7 kill streak for them, and should stop people camping for the entire match.

i agree with the person that said this review is aimed at treyarch haters. its not a proper review, but when was the last proper review on here, without trying to be smart?! eurogamer THINK they are smart, its obvious they are just EDGE wannabes. (they eurogamer T-shirts "8/10 better than halo 3" confirm just that. twats.

ive never played MOH or any other WWII shooters other than the CoD franchise, so these settings arent so familiar to me. and even if i had played them.. it would have been on a ps2, wouldnt it? theres a big difference.

just noticed that http://www.asda.com have it for £27 for 360 and PS3.

hang on... i saw this in today's daily mail on page 46, however the website asda.com states £37.

looks like in store only, as "online prices may vary".

It's not World War 2 that's tired... it's being the damned Americans as they destroy the Third Reich in Western Europe for the umpteenth time that is. There were so many other places during the war they could set it...