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C64 emulator pulled off App Store News

iPhone News by Robert Purchese

8 September, 2009

Manomio's C64 emulator has been pulled from the iPhone App Store, after brainy users discovered a way into the computer's operating system, allowing them to create and run BASIC programs.

Apple can't monitor those, so the stylish super-company quickly vanished the App, moments before Manomio could submit a new, fixed build.

The developer, speaking to Pocket Gamer, said it was hard at work setting up a meeting with Apple so it could get to the core of the issue before someone pips it to the post.

Manomio's C64 emulator raced into the top 20 paid-for Apps list after just two days on sale, and even breached the top 10 in some territories.

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EarlBassett
08/09/09 @ 16:11
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So what could you get running on there using BASIC?
swede
08/09/09 @ 16:17
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10 PRINT "APPLE IS SHIT"
20 GOTO 10
cianchristopher
08/09/09 @ 16:24
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Stylish Super Company? LOL...

That's Apple for ya!!!
matrim83
08/09/09 @ 16:30
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LOL @ swede. :D
MaxiSleep
08/09/09 @ 16:38
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runstop/restore is hardly a hack. Anyway surely they can poke CBM80 into $8000


Ah those were the days....
Stompy
08/09/09 @ 16:59
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Because if you can make software for yourself rather than buying it from a bald guy with a rude last name... well.
davisorle
08/09/09 @ 17:11
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And if, for those that are NOT aware of what this simulator actually simulates, was said in this article it wouldnt be so pointless to way too many ppl and non understandable.

In other news, Apple did it again.
space ace
08/09/09 @ 17:12
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they just never understood games :)
el_pollo_diablo
08/09/09 @ 17:25
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/presses play on tape.

/waits.
Bazfrag
08/09/09 @ 17:26
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Machine code ftw.
GiarcYekrub
08/09/09 @ 17:28
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Can't you get apps from third party vendors? Besides I thought the iPhone would run homebrew apps anyway
Bazfrag
08/09/09 @ 17:42
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"/presses play on tape.

/waits."

/dies on 1st level.

/loads lvl 2 anyway :)
Retroid [mod]
08/09/09 @ 17:45
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10 ?"OH FFS ";
20 GOTO 10
Bazfrag
08/09/09 @ 17:51
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Syntax error in line 10
insincere_dave
08/09/09 @ 17:54
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"pips it to the post"

I claim my free iPhone.
KujiGhost
08/09/09 @ 17:54
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Everyone beat me too it with their 20 GOTO 10 jokes...

Will Comet ever let me back into their stores?
beastmaster
08/09/09 @ 18:44
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V=54296
that's alll I can remember. I think that was the address of video chip. Can't remember the one for the sound. I can't remember much these days :-(
ILOVEU
08/09/09 @ 19:13
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That's a shame GO ON C64 GO!
Goatboy
08/09/09 @ 19:20
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Can everyone just stop giving Apple money please?
gm_al
08/09/09 @ 19:34
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Hmm lets see if I remember, I was a very young boy back then....

Poke 53280,1

wasnt it ?

I remember learning assembler and feeling my brain almost fall out swapping those registers all the way. Nifty little machine, I still look back in admiration, remembering Elite docking maneuvers and how I drew countless maps in The Bards Tale series (took me a whole summer vacation to finish part 2)

Geeez Im old.

SeesThroughAll
08/09/09 @ 19:44
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Hehehehe!

Yes, you should edit the BASIC loader by adding the POKE commands just before the RANDOMIZE USR xxxx (that launches the program starting at the specified memory address).

Good times, good times! :)
ademkermad
08/09/09 @ 19:51
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[insert nerd joke]

BASIC RANDOMISE SYNTAX 20 GOTO 10 POKE
NinjaWilliams
08/09/09 @ 20:22
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Load "Amiga Emulator is better" ;)
kendoji
08/09/09 @ 20:39
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I hate Apple. I hate them oh so very much.
dingo75
08/09/09 @ 20:44
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10 Print "Apple sucks"
20 Goto 10
30 End

I win in the category "cleanest code". :p

Would be fun to get some old crackto or demo running on that emulator melting the Ipod. ;)

Oh yeah and they threw us out of some computer shops, too after we did it on every machine we could find.
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Retroid [mod]
08/09/09 @ 21:25
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Bazfrag:"Syntax error in line 10"

Not in mine. ? was shorthand for PRINT, and ; would prevent a carriage return, so it'd fill the screen rather than just print a long column :)

dingo75:"I win in the category "cleanest code". :p"

You win in a pointless third line which would never be executed ;p
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septimus
08/09/09 @ 23:24
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Glad I got my copy before they did this. Shit, I would never have been able to haxorz my iPh0n3z without C64 BASIC!

Oh wait....

Fuck you Apple, you are sometimes so stupid it is unbelievable.
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Bazfrag
09/09/09 @ 07:21
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Retroid. My mistake. :) Just wrote that for the lulz. (or not!) If only we had met in the 80's. You could have helped me through my Clive Sinclaire guide to Basic, and now i would be bringing Apple down with my homebrew apps!
fiery_jackass
09/09/09 @ 07:42
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>dingo75
re the clean code:
not only do you have a spurious 3rd line, as has already been swiftly pointed out, you could also add a line break or even a space to allow a bit more legibility in your output

There is, however, a pleasing mantra effect to "Apple sucksApple sucksApple sucks". If nothing else, it suggests that this most masturbatory of companies can also auto-fellate
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Retroid [mod]
09/09/09 @ 07:50
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THE RAW POWAH OF C64 BASIC COMPELS ME (to learn machine code, because C64 BASIC was really quite rubbish)
MeBrains
09/09/09 @ 07:54
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ur all wusses. this is how men write code:
*=$c000

sei
lda #irq
sta $0314
stx $0315
cli
lda #$00
tay
tax
jsr $1000
rts

irq lda $d012
cmp #100
bne irq
jsr $1003
jmp $ea31


apart from that: lame move by Apple. /me starts to dislike Apple as much as Ninty...
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SYS64738
09/09/09 @ 09:49
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:)

/gets coat.
Retroid [mod]
09/09/09 @ 10:57
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:D
erp
09/09/09 @ 11:34
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What about the allegations that the App is ported from the GPL'd Frodo source code, yet does not comply with the GPL license?

Potentially making money off of the hard work others have done for free? Very very bad form. And illegal too.

Worth reporting, I reckon.
Retroid [mod]
09/09/09 @ 12:01
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If that's the case then definitely!

The author should at least get a cut.
Vroom!
09/09/09 @ 12:15
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Knew I should have got when I had the chance :(
erp
09/09/09 @ 12:15
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Yes, agreed. Although Frodo being open-source means there's likely no one single "author", the situation's likely to be far more complicated.

And more than that, the App developer is I believe also required to release to the public all their modified source code.

I should note however that I've not done massive amounts of research into how valid the allegations are, although the discussions I've seen have been vociferous enough to make me think they probably are true.
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I hate those guys from apple. I mean from the one side they are great because they have done this app store and so on, but from the other side they are removing not the first application which is my favorite one. Manomio's C64 emulator is the great one and irt really helped me a lot. I hope Apple will change their minds because of that. Thanks for the investigation and I will be waiting for more interesting news from you in the future.

James Burton from mobile application development

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