C&C Kane actor speaks out on games Comments by Robert Purchese

Was that written in a lazy Friday afternoon mood?

Has Joe been in anything else of any note?

Or has his role in C&C as Kane been his only source of income?

Just curious. Actually, it's such a lazy Friday afternoon I'll pop along to IMDB and find out myself...

*edit* he's only credited with C&C games on IMDB. Before tiberium wars last year, the last game he worked on was back in 2002. So what did he do for 5 years????

Inquiring minds need to know!!!

He's obviously been recruiting members for the Brotherhood of Nod during the quiet times.

"I think there's still a massive misunderstanding about what the work actually is," added Kucan.

Almost every live action performance for video games demonstrates this.

Edit - And It's fixed!

"I think there's still snobbery"

Tell that to De Niro and Pacino who are voicing Heat.

oh yeah... the cake is a lie :P

when he isn't in C&C he plays one of the Seven Dwarves for the local theatre ... or occasionally the bad guy

There still seems to be a mentality (at least in the UK), that games are NOT for those advancing on 30 and further. Which I think is absolute balls personally. I have heard comments along the lines of "you should grow up and do something else" in my time. Grow up and do what exactly? Develop an interest in gardening?

I think the games industry does have a lack of respect from the bystanders, its not hard to see why. Stroll past the magazine rack in a shop and there are about two publications that don't look horrifically embarrasing to buy (Edge and Gamer). The garish, horrible front covers with awful infantile taglines scream to the passers by that "this demonstrates the demographic that love this past time".

I don't know, I think games are getting there - they're not there yet (as in, I don't expect the BBC to be screening a HIGNFY / TTIAO / NMTB programme based around gaming any time soon - it would be cool though... Charlie Brooker and Simon Pegg as team captains?) but surely the recent GTA influenced Coke ad is a good indicator. Coke is, after all, one of the biggest brands in the world - it doesn't get more culturally influential than that.

And as for actors being snooty - Patrick Stewart in Oblivion; Samuel L. Jackson in GTA: San Andreas. Again, we're getting there...

When the BBC website starts categorising game stories under 'Entertainment' rather than 'Technology' then I'll know that games are accepted in mainstream 'culture'.

Never mind game shows, when are games going to turn up on things like the Culture Show, Newsnight Review, South Bank Show, etc? Of course, the problem is that the industry doesn't produce culturally relevant games in the first place, and when they do, there doesn't seem to be anyone there to actually try to get these games on shows like this.

Widge, I couldn't give a fuck if a magazine said 'HEY YOU 13 YEAR OLD BOY, BUY THIS MAGAZINE, IT WILL PUT HAIRS ON YOUR BALLS'. If it's about videogaming then I'm likely to buy it cos theres bound to be something I'm interested in reading in there somewhere, like how a magazine could possibly put hairs on my balls. Either way, my point is, WHO CARES what the average person thinks!

What is it with all of these people crawling out of the woodwork lately. First the Alias guy, now the guy who played Kane in C&C, whos next?

"What is it with all of these people crawling out of the woodwork lately. First the Alias guy, now the guy who played Kane in C&C, whos next? "

Read it they are both in the C&C3 expansion pack

The thing is, we *are* now rapidly approaching a year when mainstream, bonafide, middle class WASPy critics on the likes of Newsnight Review/The Culture Show will give credence to gaming. As the "hobby" becomes more ingrained in the cultural psyche you'll get more (younger) critics coming on the shows who actually give a shit and understand gaming; also researchers and production crew who will greenlight it and an audience who'll watch it.

It's kind of like an audience of middle aged people (including Sean Connery in Goldfinger) balking at the idea of the Beatles being "cultural" in the 60s, or Grundy pompously arguing with the 'Pistols in the 70s... As soon as the people who were cringing at those references at the time progress to senior roles in the mainstream press, they'll comment on the silliness of it.

The problem we have now is that TV producers and mainstream publishers won't headline a story about games being a serious medium (in the POSITIVE sense) because they don't get it OR they *do* get it but reckon the majority of folks at home won't. Give it 5-10 years and people will take all this more seriously, because they grew up with it...

shame he didnt speak out about the crap expansion for C&C3

"GiarcYekrub :Read it they are both in the C&C3 expansion pack"

Ah I did read it but I had forgotten the name of the Alias actor so it didnt click with me :)

He actaully started as the director for the cinematics at Westwood and did the role of Kane on the side.

Anyone else find this amusing coming from the mouth of someone that works on the most unremarkable game series of all time? (Since the original, naturally.)

CNC3 is hardly a beacon of light for gaming as a culturally influencing medium...

Okay, so CNC3 isn't exactly the magnum opus of gaming as a whole, but that doesn't make his views any less valid. I mean, he didn't make it, did he? Also, he was working on the first CNC. You know, back when it was an incredibly influential title.

Hmm, so games aren't a part of human culture, where the child plays games to train its skills in a positive atmosphere, to learn that which might be of use once it (peacefully) breaks free of its parents? Thanks Joe, for setting me straight there. I almost thought games were an important part of an individual's upbringing.

teknohead:

to be influential culturally, then a move away from this perceived childishness is what is needed for the average consumer. You are already won over by the market (as am I), we can easily be impressed by what games offer. I was mainly on about what is needed to raise the perception of gaming when a new release can be as important, or as widely perceived as the next movie or album release.

Fair enough, that makes sense Widge.

Should have videoed the interview, would have been awesome seeing Kane speak so candidly ^_^