Burnout Paradise Comments by Tom Bramwell
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Der_tolle_Emil
30/08/07 @ 10:45
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Sounds great. Also sounds a bit more like TDU instead of GTA. Which is a good thing I guess. Didn't really like Burnout Revenge but this sounds like it focuses more on racing in traffic instead of just pushing other cars off the track.
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Derblington
30/08/07 @ 10:51
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Meh. I like the old Burnout games, don't like *this* open world "dicking about" crap.
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Sounds better than what I'd hoped, I really don't like every game having to go all free roaming (Amercian Wasteland I'm looking at you)
but this... "If I'm fourth and I want to do it again, actually I want to race back up to the top - and there's events nearby so I can have fun as I work back up to the start" ...sends shivers down my spine....so what if there's onlt one event left to do to progress....do I have to keep thinking "it's ok I can just have fun on the massive drive back to the start? |
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asphaltcowboy
30/08/07 @ 11:08
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Sounds great. Particularly like the merging worlds multiplayer idea. Definitely something that should have been built into the recent skateboarding games (THP8, THPG and skate - OT, but kinda related :))!
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YobRenoops
30/08/07 @ 11:18
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I wish they'd get back to the pure racing off Burnout 2. Oncoming hasn't had the same allure since!
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Der_tolle_Emil
30/08/07 @ 11:23
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YobRenoops: I was hoping for that as well. I wouldn't be surprised though if Paradise is the closest to Burnout 2 since, well, Burnout 2. An open city basically just screams for traffic which is necessary for a lot of things that made Burnout 2 so great.
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YobRenoops
30/08/07 @ 11:25
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Der_tolle_Emil: I guess so but all this slow-mo camera bollocks and aftertouch just did my head in. Its called BURNout not bloody Smashout!
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Interesting. If I were to "open world" a game series now I wouldn't choose to ape GTA's most criticised design choice - that you have no way of instantly restarting a mission when you fail and have to trek all the way back to the start point.
It sounds very much like they've decided (or someone higher up has decided) that this game must be seamlessly open-world with no menus, and so they're trying to wrap the gameplay around it and making bad concessions in the process. |
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farticusmaximus
30/08/07 @ 11:51
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I guess the many many hours of roadrage sessions with my buddies will never be replaced...
All I really want is a next-gen burnout3. Burnout revenge was just a wishy-washy mockery of the precise bone-jarring slamdunk takedown mechanics of burnout3. Pretty but soulless. Openworld online blahblahblah is all very well if your only human contact is via a cable, but what about us who gather in the real world and play, you know, like, together in the same room? Dont know about anyone else buy my main criteria for buying a game is how good the splitscreen/hotseat multiplayer is. |
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The_Reevster
30/08/07 @ 11:56
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I thought the PS3 was the lead platform for this? Im sure I read that somewhere....
Yet another blow for Sony seeing as this was being shown on 360. Think I might trade in Flatout for this...
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The constant blur effects are indeed annoying. My bigger concern is that the Burnout games have gotten easier and easier over time. The PS2 and PSP only Burnout Dominator was a nice exception, but Revenge and Takedown were wayyyy too easy. I'm not convinced this will be a must-buy game.
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shamblemonkee
30/08/07 @ 12:17
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Burnout chains?
Same way traffic still collidable? Road Rage? split screen? |
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Verwandlung
30/08/07 @ 12:19
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Put in some pedestrians and pets and I might get interested (a little).
"Attention all competitors this is your one minute warning. I repeat one minute till race commencement. Members of the public you now have one minute to reach safe distance. Ok ladies and gentleman fire em up! ... Those who are about to die we salute you. 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 go." http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=GyWFX0FPhOA
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FlamingCarrot
30/08/07 @ 12:52
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So if C'etait in rendezvous is inspiration lets hope they sample the 275 GTB at the start. That noise and that of the Lamborghini P400 at the start of the Italian job would be lovely. No more wasps in a jam jar engines please...
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i'm torn. I've put hundreds of hours into mastering crash junctions in Burnout 2 and Burnout Revenge, and although I love the idea of crash anywhere, I was still hoping for a set of specific junctions to climb up the leaderboards for.
And yes I will take instant restarts please. It's hard to master a course if you have to keep driving 5 miles back to the beginning again. And no crash multipliers please! They killed Burnout 3 for me. |
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"All I really want is a next-gen burnout3. Burnout revenge was just a wishy-washy mockery of the precise bone-jarring slamdunk takedown mechanics of burnout3. Pretty but soulless."
Your talking bollocks mate. Burnout 2 was the pinnacle of the series, but Burnout Revenge on the 360 came closest to recapturing that. Burnout 3 was an ugly mess, with a completely broken crash mode. I hear they are bringing back burnout chaining for this, which would be fab. "The constant blur effects are indeed annoying " If it's done like Burnout Revenge on the 360, it will be fine. Very subtle in motion at 60fps.
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Derblington
30/08/07 @ 13:23
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It sounds very much like they've decided (or someone higher up has decided) that this game must be seamlessly open-world with no menus, and so they're trying to wrap the gameplay around it and making bad concessions in the process.
Are you working on the game ;) |
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grandmaster
30/08/07 @ 14:41
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Burnout chains?
Same way traffic still collidable? Road Rage? split screen? Yes :D Yes but it slows you down - no traffic attack shenanigans this time, but no crashes either Yes Not that I've seen but I may be wrong
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JediMasterMalik
30/08/07 @ 15:51
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Love the Burnout series, and this sounds really brilliantly done, can't wait!
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I love it how they're always pushing forward with new innovations... best of luck to the Burnout team, it's my favourite racing game series alongside Mario Kart, F-Zero & ExciteTruck (I don't really care for "serious" racing). Of course Burnout is the visually most advanced of these. I've been hooked since Burnout 2.
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shamblemonkee
30/08/07 @ 18:11
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oh and i also find it impossible to acknowledge that a 'handbake' was requested more than:
Return of replays Return of burnout chaining the ability to just carry on racing tracks in splitscreen instead of going thru the menu each time etc etc |
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barnard666
30/08/07 @ 18:12
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I juust want to add my support to those above wanting instant restart...I still play revenge from time to time, taking turns with friends to hack away at the event tree...it's great. having to drive to events is just dull. I want quick action, with a well defined goal. At least in TDU if you had covered a road you could shortcut to the event via the GPS, that was an inspired design choice. I am sure revenge will have an event map, it simply has to? and isn't a static map with a set of events listed on it as icons essentially a menu screen but with less functionality?
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for racing mode Burnout 2 was the best of the bunch because it required skill -- you couldnt execute burnout any time at will and once you executed burnout you used it all up. Traffic checking in the last version also greatly reduced the difficulty level. Hoping for the best with this version but my sense is that EA is always trying to dumb down this game.
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