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Bungie president "certainly didn't agree" with decision to postpone Halo E3 reveal News

Xbox 360 News by Tom Bramwell

24 July, 2008

Bungie president Harold Ryan has denied "laughing" when Xbox boss Don Mattrick told him that the studio's latest Halo product would not be shown at E3.

"Keeping things clean, I certainly didn't agree with the decision to delay our news until sometime after E3," Ryan told Eurogamer today.

"Bungie is always concerned first and foremost with our fans. Whenever we are prevented from exceeding their positive expectations it is not a laughing matter."

Mattrick, who is in charge of the Xbox 360 business at Microsoft, told Eurogamer during E3 that Ryan "just laughed and he said, 'Boy, just a sign of growth inside the business, we agree'."

Mattrick went on to say that the new Halo product would be unveiled at a separate event "another time of the year" that would "create an opportunity where people can interact with it".

Neither Microsoft or Bungie has released further details on the new Halo product.

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Santino
24/07/08 @ 14:10
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fight!
lambtron
24/07/08 @ 14:11
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I think Mattrick should consider keeping his mouth closed from now on regarding this issue ;).
Vice.Destroyer
24/07/08 @ 14:11
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Santino beat me to it, but since he is inciting keyboard warriors, I'll join in.

Fight, fight, fight
mcbi4kh2
24/07/08 @ 14:14
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Microsoft and Bungie fight, Bungie find new home on PS3.........
Feanor
24/07/08 @ 14:15
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Laughing can turn to crying in a hurry.
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zoidberg
24/07/08 @ 14:17
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burned
Farzlepot
24/07/08 @ 14:20
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Uwe Boll might be a talentless plonker, but he did come up with one good thing - director fights! I think we should have the same thing in the gaming world between execs.
Weezer
24/07/08 @ 14:22
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Mattrick = big fat liar?
Widge
24/07/08 @ 14:24
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More comical than Konami trying to make online games!
mcmonkeyplc
24/07/08 @ 14:26
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SACK THE MOTHERFUCKER! I demand Mattricks head on a platter!

Darren
24/07/08 @ 14:27
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Don Mattrick is a [insert your own expletive here], I think we've all pretty much gathered that by now! LOL
lb003g0676
24/07/08 @ 14:27
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Yer, if he lies about his 2nd party, then he'd be more than prepared to lie about most of the 1st party crap he said.

I don't believe half of it, it's all quite futile for the 360,a nd I believe he has the difficutl job of covering it up.
agparrot
24/07/08 @ 14:27
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Finish the Fight.
Peew971
24/07/08 @ 14:31
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"I think Mattrick should consider keeping his mouth closed from now on regarding this issue ;)."

I think Mattrick should consider keeping his mouth closed from now on. Period.
kestral
24/07/08 @ 14:34
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Glad that's cleared up.
jebus
24/07/08 @ 14:34
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Christ - does anyone actually care?
LeD
24/07/08 @ 14:36
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Oh wow, talk about burning bridges.
Lave
24/07/08 @ 14:41
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Ok, so there is this game development studio called Bungie, who singel-handed saved the first xbox from being a failure by a game called Halo. They then proceed to make a game which is one of the most sold in history of gaming for the xbox 360.

Why do someone employed by Microsoft threat this studio with anything less than respect, gratitude and general ass-kissing?
Rash'
24/07/08 @ 14:41
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"Finish the Fight."

Yeah, that made me laugh!
Santino
24/07/08 @ 14:43
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"Why do someone employed by Microsoft threat this studio with anything less than respect, gratitude and general ass-kissing?"

prob cos MS own the halo ip, and the halo ip is more valuable than bungie
anomagnus
24/07/08 @ 14:47
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mattrick did come across as a total dick
Weezer
24/07/08 @ 14:49
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"I think Mattrick should consider keeping his mouth closed from now on. Period."

Is that like a full stop? Or have you... y'know... got the painters in.
bushwod
24/07/08 @ 14:51
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"prob cos MS own the halo ip, and the halo ip is more valuable than bungie"

Until they drill the Halo ip into the ground with crappy spin off titles; meanwhile Bungie go and create another masterpiece ip.

P.S. Wii officially wins the console war? http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lan...
louyfitz
24/07/08 @ 14:57
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Mattrick is a twat anyway, did anyone read that interview?
I have never heard someone that far up their own ass.

No wonder he works for MS. Bungie have a right to be angry about this, a lot of prep work went to waste, E3 was classed as a pile of wank, and the biggest announcement was when someone announced their departure to the toilet.

No doubt Bungie has something good up their Overshield protected sleeves.
Eighthours
24/07/08 @ 15:05
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FIGHT!

Mattrick was silly to make the comment. It was obviously rubbish, and you should only spin something when the person you're talking about doesn't have the right of reply. Since the Bungie pres posted that note on the website about his disappointment, it was pretty obvious that he would retort.

Major tactical error for Mattrick, and I hope it doesn't signal the beginning of the end of the MS/Bungie relationship. Mutual respect is surely one of the most basic components of a partnership.
peterfll
24/07/08 @ 15:09
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...... said Bungie president Harold as he laid back into his luxurious hand-crafted diamond-studded throne, paid for by the billion$ of money made from Halo sales which MS had no part in generating at all.
Negotiator
24/07/08 @ 15:10
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Bungie love me and the rest of its fans, and this Don Matrix has stopped them from giving me and the rest of its fans a look at its new game.
DB2k
24/07/08 @ 15:22
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is all this hoo haaaa over that crappy Command and Conquer game thing they were making?
miiiguel
24/07/08 @ 15:24
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^ huh? what are you talking about ?
mcmonkeyplc
24/07/08 @ 15:24
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DB2k: No that's halo wars developed by Ensemble not Bungie.
BBIAJ
24/07/08 @ 15:24
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No, because Bungie were never doing it, Ensemble Studios were, and still are.
miiiguel
24/07/08 @ 15:26
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oh... I got it. I got over-confused when I read someone labeling a game that is *in development* by Age of Empires guys as being *crappy*.
Bill Gates is Evil
24/07/08 @ 15:26
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Where did Bungie say anything about it being a Halo product? Thats not necessarily confirmed is it?
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24/07/08 @ 15:29
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no-one really thought there was laughter and Mattrick obviously looks a bit of a tool when saying it, but as a we're all friends it's a misunderstanding comment it's fair.

For Bungie to not let it lie and respond in a deliberately public manner is a little out of order and smacks of some serious dispute under the surface - or just two execs who need to have the last word in some self destructive ip damaging willy waving contest.
WinterSnowblind
24/07/08 @ 15:29
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"Until they drill the Halo ip into the ground with crappy spin off titles; meanwhile Bungie go and create another masterpiece ip."

Bungie have never really made anything else worth talking about, with the exception of Marathon, which was essentially Halo anyway. That beind said, we already know any future games Bungie make will still be exclusive to the 360, and I very much doubt this will change anything. They're still a second party MS developer, despite not being directly owned by them anymore.

And the only spin-off title we've seen thus far is Halo Wars, and it's being handled very well, with Bungie's super vision. I don't think you can claim they're running it into the ground with "crappy" games, just yet. And even if it does happen, it hasn't hurt Mario, or Pokemon very much, has it?
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24/07/08 @ 15:30
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Mattrick is proving to be a grade-A pillock. Pulls the announcement last minute for bullshit reasons, then lets slip what it was anyway, and then is all like "oh yeah the bungie guys were totally cool with it". Sure they were.
miiiguel
24/07/08 @ 15:36
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Mattrick might have over simplified the issue but "doing laundry" in the media is worse, imho.

About the "halo spin offs", what's that? wishfull-thinking? Halo is probably the most sucessfull IP of XXI century and they could have milked it, but they didn't (yet), so those claims are unfair.
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monkie_king
24/07/08 @ 15:38
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WinterSnowblind: The Myth series was a pretty big deal in its day.

Interestingly, the original Halo prototype was a sci-fi RTS, "Myth with aliens", probably not a million miles away from Halo Wars.
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24/07/08 @ 15:42
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@Santino #1

I predicted that would be the first comment, but at least you could've done it in capitals :P
cyber_nicco
24/07/08 @ 15:44
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I think they need to ditch this Mattrick fellow - sooner rather than later...
Santino
24/07/08 @ 15:45
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@gingerlink

haha as soon as i read agparrot post: "Finish the Fight" i knew what a mistake i had made, that should have been the first post.
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24/07/08 @ 15:46
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Well, based on Ryans quote I'd think it was more likely that it was more a snort of disbelief, one of those "oh for fucks sake, I can't believe this shit" half-laughs that Mattrick reported as a laugh (which was careless of him).

I'm sure they'll be bestest friends again by the weekend. I hope so because Harold Ryan was invited to Don Mattricks birthday party and his mom ordered that cake and the bouncy castle and Don will be sulking all day if Harold isn't there.
ronuds
24/07/08 @ 16:40
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Why did they put "certainly didn't agree" in quotes when I don't see it said anywhere in the article?

EG's been starting a lot of trouble lately...
penhalion
24/07/08 @ 16:42
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Bungie didn't agree because lord knows we were all waiting for yet another Halo game.....oh wait
wewillselfdestruct
24/07/08 @ 17:07
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@ronuds

First sentence, second paragraph. Nothing but the facts in this article heading. Except where they refer to Halo. Technically that's still supposition.
Bill Gates is Evil
24/07/08 @ 17:13
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From what I've read isn't Microsoft Game Studios the ones working on the next halo??? And that Bungies next game is something unexpected i.e. not halo?
LazyDan
24/07/08 @ 17:27
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I bet Bungie are working on a new IP, it'll be really good and it'll be multiplatform. Hence MS stealing it of its biggest stage to shine.

Except not really because E3 this year was a joke.
ParanoidZombie
24/07/08 @ 17:33
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Meh, it's not like the game is delayed or cancelled or anything...

If it's a new halo, we're just a few weeks away from being bombarded with tons of trailers and target renders, enormous hype and a flood of nonsensical angry comments from halo haters, so thanks microsoft for giving us a couple weeks of silence before the madness resumes.

And if it's not a new halo, i don't think bungie would have been happy either, because their new IP would have been mostly overshadowed by gears2 and the FF13 announcement anyway.
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24/07/08 @ 17:38
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What's this, trouble in paradise?

Of course they wouldn't be happy with the news being postponed. Despite its new found shitiness, E3's name still commands respect, and it must have come as a kick in the spuds for Bungie when the announcement was dropped from the event. Especially since the time it would've taken was eaten up by a fatty dancing in front of a Vision camera.
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squarejawhero
24/07/08 @ 18:03
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I'd be more interested in knowing which one threw the baby out of the bathwater, as frankly it's not clearcut. Mattrick may have had a slip of the tongue, but one does wonder what Bungie's bosses are doing as professionally they're acting up far too much. End of now, chaps, sort it out internally and let the games do the talking.

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