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Bungie boss "laughed" when MS pulled Halo from E3 briefing - Mattrick News

Xbox 360 News by Tom Bramwell

23 July, 2008

Don Mattrick has denied that Bungie was angry about Microsoft's decision to pull the developer's new Halo game from the Xbox 360 E3 press conference.

"Sure they're disappointed. Any software creator would be disappointed," Mattrick, boss of the Xbox 360 business, told Eurogamer at E3 for an exclusive interview set to run later this week.

"Harold [Ryan, Bungie president] just laughed and he said, 'Boy, just a sign of growth inside the business, we agree'."

[Editor's note: Since this interview was published, Bungie has contacted Eurogamer to present its side of the story. Ryan has said: "I certainly didn't agree with the decision to delay our news until sometime after E3."]

Last week Ryan wrote on Bungie's website that the team was disappointed by Microsoft's last-minute decision not to unveil the game.

Pressed on the decision to pull the new Halo title from the E3 briefing, Mattrick said: "We didn't feel we needed to show Halo to have a great show, to pay homage to our core audience, to have a lot of news, so it was an embarrassment of riches and we couldn't fit it in. How great is that? I think that's awesome."

Microsoft will host an event "another time of the year that'll go deep on Halo", Mattrick explained.

"So that's what we're going to do and I think we're smart. I had so many people come to me and say 'look at that, that's a measure of growth and maturity of Microsoft - the fact that you have the best show, the best collection of products and you didn't even have to show Halo'."

Mattrick wouldn't be drawn on the contents of the game itself, but said there's "an ongoing work-stream with Bungie and others" on "all kinds of new things in development".

"It's awesome, it's highly anticipated, it's friggin' Halo! People love it, right? I can't say a lot about it.

"We're going to create an opportunity where people can interact with it, we think it's going to be super high quality, super fun, super innovative; it's the easiest thing for us to message, so stay tuned. There's lots of good news on that."

Look out for our full Don Mattrick interview tomorrow.

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Xerx3s
23/07/08 @ 11:15
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"Pressed on the decision to pull the new Halo title from the E3 briefing, Mattrick said: "We didn't feel we needed to show Halo to have a great show, to pay homage to our core audience, to have a lot of news, so it was an embarrassment of riches and we couldn't fit it in. How great is that? I think that's awesome." "

I think that you are a backstabbing idiot.
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23/07/08 @ 11:16
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I feel sorry for Bungie.

"Pressed on the decision to pull the new Halo title from the E3 briefing, Mattrick said: "We didn't feel we needed to show Halo to have a great show, to pay homage to our core audience, to have a lot of news, so it was an embarrassment of riches and we couldn't fit it in. "
actual reaction: o yeah bummer

"How great is that? I think that's awesome."
expected reaction: o yeah awesome
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bad09
23/07/08 @ 11:17
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"We didn't feel we needed to show Halo to have a great show, to pay homage to our core audience"

I would have shown it seeing as you pissed off a great deal of you core audience this year with a lot of the stuff you did show........

To be honest though, as much as I love Halo, unless it radically different (unlikely) a forth game doesn't exactly set my heart racing.
rob230
23/07/08 @ 11:21
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Maybe once they've all finished bumming each other they can make an announcement
Deagle
23/07/08 @ 11:22
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"We didn't feel we needed to show Halo to have a great show, to pay homage to our core audience, to have a lot of news, so it was an embarrassment of riches and we couldn't fit it in."

Clearly I watched a different conference.
mcmonkeyplc
23/07/08 @ 11:22
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Your a fucking cock Mattrick. A FUCKING DICK HEAD. Please hurry up and make a huge mistake so you get sacked.

Farzlepot
23/07/08 @ 11:23
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Great. So not only do we have a crappy new dashboard and stupidly childish avatars to look forward to, but now we have yet another Halo in the pipeline. Just what the world needed!
Kiigan
23/07/08 @ 11:24
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"We're going to create an opportunity where people can interact with it, we think it's going to be super high quality, super fun, super innovative; it's the easiest thing for us to message, so stay tuned. There's lots of good news on that."

I understood none of that.
MBar
23/07/08 @ 11:25
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"E3 is so shit now Microsoft didn't want to waste a big reveal such as Halo on it. We won simply by having FFXIII and a new dashboard. Whoop-de-fucking-doo, eh?"
miiiguel
23/07/08 @ 11:25
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^ you're not forced to use "childish avatars" as Major Nelson said. And you're not forced to buy Halo (although the king deserves some respect ;) )
Buztafen
23/07/08 @ 11:26
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Hey as long as its more of the same (which i really enjoyed) when it finally gets revealed, then who gives a shit...
Mr_Brown
23/07/08 @ 11:28
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Sounds about right. MS just woke up to the reality that 'a great E3' is no longer important thanks to the downsizing of the show. People can critisise Nintendo, Sony and Microsofts E3 all they like on the net. But not having real surprises at the show won't stop gamers buying their games and won't have as big an impact as E3 used to have.

The show is in its deathrows and without a overhaul, the next could be one of the last IMO.
Inquisitor [mod]
23/07/08 @ 11:29
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I can't believe he just said that.

Not only is he making himself out to be a complete twat, which he obviously is, he then tries to do the same to the head of Bungie.

Laughing as he dissapointed millions of Halo fans by delaying the announcement, yea, sure he did Mattrick, laughing at your ineptitude more like. Where is this so called deep and meaningful conference? Okay, it was better than Nintendo's and just better than Sony's thanks only to the FF announcement but that was it.

He really does like digging himself deeper into the shite doesn't he, can't he just apologise to the fans and calmly say they didn't think it was ready to show, or they didn't want the FF news to dilute the announcement? This sort of bullish argumentative stance might fly in the boardroom but to gamers it just looks arrogant and foolish.
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23/07/08 @ 11:30
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Oh yeah, i like you guys crying on the new dashboard when not even one of you have realy seen nore tested it. Stop bitching around and shut up.
Deagle
23/07/08 @ 11:34
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"I can't believe he just said that."

A senior console exec talking out of his backside? UNBELIEVABLE
johnnybrn
23/07/08 @ 11:34
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blig_merk,

'IMHO Halo 3 was a retread of Halo 2 and Halo 1, and lacked the sense of reinvention Halo brought to console FPSs.'

Whereas RFOM2 and KZ2 will be complete reinventions of the genre and will take gaming to the next level! ;)
IneptPercy
23/07/08 @ 11:41
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Maybe they didn't want to do a Sony and announce it with some nice CG footage and then make people wait to years for a product that won't live up to that promise?
doragor
23/07/08 @ 11:42
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@ blig_merk

Have you played Halo 3? The level design improves as Halo 3 proceeds - The Covenant is one of the best Halo levels I've played. The new vehicles, equipment and heavy weapons are features that are not a retread of the previous two games - they were hardly going to tinker too much with a proven formula of grenade/gun/melee.

Your posts yesterday in the David Reeves thread were hilarious though I remember - I doubt I'll get a reasonable reply if one at all.
DADHAT
23/07/08 @ 11:43
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Inquisitor: how can millions of halo fans be disappointed when it hasn't been announced yet? we don't know a thing about it
michaelius
23/07/08 @ 11:43
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That's a lot of fuss about game series which would be considered avarage FPS if it debutted on PC platform.
johnnybrn
23/07/08 @ 11:44
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True, you didnt but I know where you heart lies based on previous posts.

But honestly what did you expect, of course it was more of the same. Same as Empire Strikes back was like Star Wars. Same as MGS4 was like MGS3 only with flashier graphics. Blah Blah. Too lazy to find more examples

I honestly believe the Halo FPS story is finished on this gen and the next Halo game will be on the 720 or whatever its called.

Zomoniac
23/07/08 @ 11:45
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I miss Moore and Allard. They did the corporate spin and we-rock-so-hard thing but in a much more humble and honest manner. Since the Kim, Bueller and Mattrick team took over to do the PR it's just been one embarrassing farce after another. Sack 'em all and get J back on stage.

I can guarantee Peter Moore would never, ever have said that.

And can I take it from that article that they're in passing confirming an X08 this year?
penhalion
23/07/08 @ 11:47
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Halo 4 would have fallen flat on it's face if that's what bungie had to show. I know I'm not even remotely interested in a new halo game. They ruined the master chief story after all so what's left to do? Make it about some ordinary soldiers? Introduce a new spartan? Perhaps female even.

I think Microsoft have realised that it's just way too soon to be talking about yet another halo game. Everyone is waiting for gears 2 and arguably a lot of people enjoyed gears more than halo anyway.
johnnybrn
23/07/08 @ 11:48
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michaelius,

Theres nothing alse like Halo on the consoles because everything else is well a bit grey.
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23/07/08 @ 11:49
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It will be funny if this turns out to be an arcade title,lol
farticusmaximus
23/07/08 @ 11:50
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'IMHO Halo 3 was a retread of Halo 2 and Halo 1, and lacked the sense of reinvention Halo brought to console FPSs.'

Luckily that opinion means absolutely nothing.

Halo 3 is still the very finest FPS campaign experience available on a console. Multiplayer it has been bettered by CoD, but for a single player or co-op game it's unbeaten, and there's nothing I've seen that would challenge it.

Another Halo game would suit millions of us Halo fans just fine, and would again sell like hotcakes, whether or not it 'innovates', 'reinvents' or whatever buzzwords you care to throw at it. There are no 6 wheel family cars on the road for a good reason - a great design doesnt need changing.

Best FPS ever gets a sequel? If that's the case then count me in!
Zomoniac
23/07/08 @ 11:50
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Halo 4 would have fallen flat on it's face if that's what bungie had to show. I know I'm not even remotely interested in a new halo game. They ruined the master chief story after all so what's left to do?

Except the ending was clearly designed to allow another game based on the chief's story if they wanted. And if it had the visuals that it should've had (ie relative to everything else what H2 was at the time) then it wouldn't have fallen flat on its face. You underestimate the obsession some people have with Halo.
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23/07/08 @ 11:52
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"To be honest though, as much as I love Halo, unless it radically different (unlikely) a forth game doesn't exactly set my heart racing."

Exactly. Why the need for another Halo? Shouldn't they be focusing on original IP that broadens their demographic and shift's the platforms identity? This "Mii too" strategy isn't going to cut it in that regard.
BobsUncle
23/07/08 @ 11:54
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Maybe the Bungie CTRL and C and V keys have broken, so they can do nothing.
Beek4257
23/07/08 @ 11:56
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As Deagle rightly posted on the FFXIII topic: "What a great day for PR bullshit".
Indeed.

I'm having serious barflex overload today.
berelain
23/07/08 @ 12:11
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Personally, I see what they were doing here. MS probabyl wanted to try and stand on their own feet without reliance on the Halo franchise.

Personally, Gears 2, Fable 2 and FFXIII were enough for me anyways.
space ace
23/07/08 @ 12:11
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er, what new halo?
Doctor_What
23/07/08 @ 12:13
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Halo 3 is still the very finest FPS campaign experience available on a console [...] for a single player or co-op game it's unbeaten, and there's nothing I've seen that would challenge it.
Were you playing the same single player campaign as the rest of us? Repetitive level design, an inconsistent game world, and probably the most irritating and inept buddy AI since GTA: Vice City. Moreover, the story was dull, the script was heavily peppered with lines taken directly from the Aliens films (does 'homage' mean 'stolen' these days?), and the characters were so shallow if they were puddles they would be inverted against all laws of nature.

Don't get me wrong, Halo 1 was a great game. Halo 2 had some nice features but the story was awful and the level design lacking flair, but Halo 3 was a really very average game as far as the single-player experience goes. The idea of playing Halo 4 doesn't excite me in the least.
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23/07/08 @ 12:15
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"We're going to create an opportunity where people can interact with [Halo]"

Wow, Microsoft are bringing out some kind of control pad! Oh wait...

Innovation FTW! I've never seen interactivity with a telly screen before! Oh wait...
Yossarian
23/07/08 @ 12:16
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Face it: The real reason you didnt show the new Halo game si that there is nothing to show yet.

Bungie had readied a sixty-second trailer and numerous other assets relating to their latest game, so no.

actionfitz
23/07/08 @ 12:17
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@ johnnybrn
"blig_merk,

'IMHO Halo 3 was a retread of Halo 2 and Halo 1, and lacked the sense of reinvention Halo brought to console FPSs.'

Whereas RFOM2 and KZ2 will be complete reinventions of the genre and will take gaming to the next level! ;)"


hehe. careful, 'blig_merk' is one of the most evangelic PS3 fanboi's i've had the courtesy of ignoring on these forums :)
I think Bill Gates personally called around to his house one morning and shat in his Cereal, that or he's an ignorant twat...
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23/07/08 @ 12:20
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Yes, it's a whole bunch of bollocks. Maybe they should have spoken about it before Bungie put up the Webpage!!

hypocrite blig:

"Face it: The real reason you didn't show the new Halo game is that there is nothing to show yet. "

Then...

"You mean like the FFXIII announcement when they showed nothing but CGI, which debuted last year at the Sony conference,? "

Can you not see how funny that last comment is? "You showed CGI for a game! We showed it the YEAR before!" LOL

I was going to mention God of War 3, but I won't.

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23/07/08 @ 12:21
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"He really does like digging himself deeper into the shite doesn't he, can't he just apologise to the fans and calmly say they didn't think it was ready to show, or they didn't want the FF news to dilute the announcement? This sort of bullish argumentative stance might fly in the boardroom but to gamers it just looks arrogant and foolish."

QFT
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23/07/08 @ 12:23
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ANY WHO HASNT HEARD THE NEXT BIG GAME FROM BUNGIE IS IN FACT "HALO 4 " THER YOU GO .CANT SEE WHAT ALL THE FUSS IS ABOUT MORE OF SAME PROBLY ADDED CO-OP WITH UP TO 4 PLAYERS IN STORY MODE.DONT EXPECT TO SEE THIS UNTILL EARLY NEXT YEAR.

Ummm....halo 3 had 4 player co-op, what's new?
bad09
23/07/08 @ 12:26
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@ Doctor_What

I'm sorry, I know it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but really H3 SP was far from average. Personally I thought it was well paced, good design, and (when played on legendary) a tense, exciting and strategic experience.

peterfll
23/07/08 @ 12:26
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You SPIN me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round.
Yossarian
23/07/08 @ 12:28
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Eurogamer hates Halo and Halo-related news. Who knew??
RedSparrows
23/07/08 @ 12:28
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I for one can't wait for another Halo game, regardless of what it's actually formed as/based on. As long as it has the same stupidly good production values and a Spartan laser, i'm set.
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23/07/08 @ 12:32
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well I actually bought Xbox1 just for halo, believe or not :) still got it at home and playing it. even halo 2... but then the retarts at MS decided that Halo 3 would only work on the new shitbox360.

so I decided not to go with that, purely because I don't spend enough time playing games anymore. + I don't agree with paying money to play online (it's a matter of principle, not funds).

oh, and the PS3, well it was a christmas present from my wife :). I like it. that's it really :)

thanks for reading. I am going for a walk now... the bbc forecast sucks big time. doesn't anyone ever complain about that anymore? they can't predict shit!
johnnybrn
23/07/08 @ 12:38
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blig_merk,

Thing is you do care, otherwise you wouldn't post these ps3-biased comments and keep your thoughts to yourself
peterfll
23/07/08 @ 12:39
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Someone mentions the word Halo and it always descends into poking each other with the poo-stick.

Can we all just learn to get along?
dadrester
23/07/08 @ 12:43
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it's because it's not a 360 exclusive... it's coming to PS3 too!!!111!11!1!!111!!111!!!!!

/not that i'd be particularly arsed if it did... halo = just above meh
amcd28
23/07/08 @ 12:43
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@ peterfll

"I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmoneeeeeeeee"

Think that covers it.
IronGiant
23/07/08 @ 12:48
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"So that's what we're going to do and I think we're smart. I had so many people come to me and say 'look at that, that's a measure of growth and maturity of Microsoft - the fact that you have the best show, the best collection of products and you didn't even have to show Halo'."

Ahh yes copying Nintendo's idea with the avatars, remember the MS ones have arms and legs oooooohhhh, and also ripping off Buzz and Singstar is a real sign of growth and maturity.
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"it's friggin' Halo!" ppl

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