BioShock Comments by Tom Bramwell
We take the PS3 down into Rapture for the first time.
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lavalant
Of course the Ps3 version is better, they had more time to polish things up, to add all the extra content released later for the Xbox and maybe put some better textures/graphical improvements... from the look of it, and i haven't seen it moving yet, the game looks superior... now, nothing is better then a high end Pc... and people, seriously,l if you want to play these magnificent, atmospheric, top of the line yet outrageously overrated game, go for the Pc version. HDD is there for something, and as a Ps3 owner as well, i dont mind to intall a game if it improves the experience.
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I loved bioshock and (like Halo) don't really understand the hate. Great FPS that offered a new and interesting setting with great characters in a stale and over-populated genre. Compelling story and great graphics and solid fun gameplay.
PS3 only owners welcome to rapture, now if you'd kindly enjoy your visit! / sits and waits for Bioshock 2 Edit - One thing though, at times it does drag it's feet and does feel a bit of a slog. A small price to pay. ;)
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@Apologie,
I haven't yet seen a screenshot that looks superior to the 360 version released a year ago. No better textures and/or graphical effects. In fact, that extra year (and bringing in extra developers to help) for the conversion has been spent ensuring that the game looks and plays identical to the 360 version. That was and is the stated goal of 2K Games. That you somehow believe that it looks better in the PS3 shots you've seen is a testament to how great it looked when released a year earlier. Oh, and HD install? I agree, it is a nice thing to have the option to do. Unfortunately, it seems that part of those optimisations to ensure it runs as well on the PS3 as 360 is that it's yet another mandatory install. |
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MasterNameless
09/09/08 @ 19:38
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@rotmm
Just try and ignore him. I think that's what most of us do, hoping he goes away. Or least, through repeated ignorance, our brains will stop registering his presence. Same goes for the other ridiculous fanboys/trolls. |
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MasterNameless
you are a dickhead my friend... oh and by the way, your comment "Just try and ignore him. I think that's what most of us do hoping he goes away. Or least, through repeated ignorance, our brains will stop registering his presence. Same goes for t the other ridiculous fanboys/trolls. "... just ilustrate how sad you are, people do they own judgement and if you ignore me that much, your comment ilustrates the contrary, oh and by the way the only ridiculous guy i see (with stupid comments out of context like the one above) is you.
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3william56
10/09/08 @ 04:54
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O_O Well b*gger me sideways. Didn't see this coming. Was expecting a Orange Box hobbled port, a snotty face off article then 700 whinging fanboy comments. Well done to all concerned, and maybe the age of sh*tty ports is coming to an end.
Can't decide if it's my cup of tea. Not a big FPSer, but the style and story sound fabulous. Suspect it will be a bargain bin purchase in a while. |
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makeamazing
10/09/08 @ 05:46
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Have it on PC, not got that far yet and not sure its worth me getting on PS3 as there are going to be alot of other games coming out in the next couple of months.
I do think they at least tried with a different setting/concept and it does make it an interesting game to play. Anything that isnt set in the future with an alien invasion has to be a step forward in terms of story telling. |
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farticusmaximus
10/09/08 @ 07:27
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@Apologie
Your ignorance is staggering. It has been clearly stated that the PS3 version is IDENTICAL to the x360 version apart from the challenge rooms (a welcome addition, IMO) and the mandatory 10 minute 5 gig install. Now shut the fuck up you stupid fanboy and go play the game. It's good, and if you can let the curtain of rage drop from your vision you will find it visually pleasing with engaging gameplay, exactly the same as it was a year ago. Stop trolling, it's pathetic. |
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triforce23
10/09/08 @ 08:22
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one of the best games this gen i was blown away by the story the moral choices was a nice idea the atmosphere and art all fits together perfectly to make an amazing gameing experience.
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kangarootoo
10/09/08 @ 08:53
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"For a modern game the range of enemies in Bioshock is remarkably small and samey - theres basically a handful of splicer variants, a couple of big daddy types, and a final ( very anticlimactic) boss"
Welll, there was also a variety of turrets, security cameras and flying robot drones. Not to mention killer bees. Bioshock had the same variety of enemies as most games out there. The reason everyone seems to think it had less is because it spells things out to the player too clearly through its achivements. When researching enemies you are quite clearly TOLD that all of the variants of each enemy type are essentially the same. Halo 1 only had 8 enemy types, and that is including the various flood variants. That is pretty representative of most games. You don't need a shedload of different enemies for a game to be fun (pacman had just one), but people keep getting hung up on it. I suspect the whole enemy variants issue is just a club that non-fans of the game use to beat it with. For those that enjoyed the game, it was a total non-issue. |
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kangarootoo
10/09/08 @ 09:37
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For those interested in this sort of thing, gamasutra have published a Bioshock post-mortem.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/37... |
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muscleblade
10/09/08 @ 09:46
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@Les
I said it before and say it again. You clearly dont like games. Not good ones at least good thing your a PS3 owner then. LOL. edit: Just kidding about the last part.
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kangarootoo
10/09/08 @ 09:58
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Christ, that post-mortem doesn't make for pretty reading. I'm amazed Bioshock turned out as well as it did.
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RustyBullet
10/09/08 @ 11:54
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This game was blinding. Reading this is kind of kicking me up the arse to play it again. might actualy buy this on PS3 then at least i will be able to say that i have 8 games worth buying on my PS3.
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Oh my word Apologie your last attempt at posting to MasterNamesless has been edited 3 times and it still seems that halfway decent literacy is beyond your capability.
Perhaps a little less time spent trolling and spitting out hot air and a little more time in the classroom learning to read and write to a sufficient level would not come amiss! |
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MasterNameless
10/09/08 @ 14:11
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@iago71
Hah, thanks for having a go back at him, but there's little point. He'll forever be an eternally blinkered fanboy, I couldn't even be bothered to respond, gives him the impression that people are actually reading the nonsense that he writes! Well, maybe occassionally people do read it, just take no notice, or have a good laugh. Certainly not the response he is expecting! edit: p.s. Just noticed, through his seething rage, he couldn't even copy and paste my comment properly!
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clarkec321
10/09/08 @ 14:38
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Ports aren't the way forward
We obviously have the benifit of extra features, and the 2008 sales success of the ps3 should now mean that when desigining future games, developers can take advantage of the unique architecture right from the drawing board, although that may mean games being multi-disk on the 360 Game installs are a pain in the arse, but having practically no load times after that when your imersed in gameplay is a better option Am going to give this a miss over Resistance 2 though |
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@ evilfoxhound.
Why bother you had about three achievements on your games before you erased your gamertag from the profile. I think you are stealth trolling as you would put it. How do you only get three achievements? Answer; you don't use it, you borrowed one. Tell me! And according to your logic you shouldn't post in the PS3 threads as you have a XBL gamertag. |
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"When you say Terrible art direction, do you just mean you don't like it? "
Yes. Comments are personal, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, etc, etc. "I notice in your game collection you give Oblivion a 1/10, is that also because you don't like the style? So what make's you rate Uncharted a 9/10?" Oblivion is ridiculous crap. The only 'good' things are the thousands of uninteresting quests that you can take part in. It got high review scores because it was the first decent looking next gen title back in the day but with a broken game concept (leveling is irrelevant), broken mechanics (3rd person is so bad it made me cry and 1st person is unplayable), art direction that's even worse than BioShock's and an engine that constantly struggled (pop-up was awfal and never absent) to name but a few of its faults. Uncharted is everything BioShock isn't: good atmosphere (excellent sound, level and character designs), simple play mechanics and engaging story that doesn't take itself too seriously. Serious story telling doesn't really suit the medium IMO it just makes the clumsiness of current games technology stick out too much (though I wouldn't excactly call the pulp BioShock story serious). |
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It is a good game. A solid story, looks wonderful, loved the art deco interiors, really loved the water effects, ultimately it was a bit empty but in its emptiness it was far, far fuller than just about all of the bilge that is served up around the place (Half Life, anyone?) Is it a classic? Just about. Is it worthy of worship? Not really. Is it better on one system, or the other? Really, in this day and age who gives a toss? Very sad excuses for people.
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I thought the level design was fairly mediocre, as the game suffers from typical console-itis. Small, compartmentalized levels. Mostly linear. Hardly any open areas at all. A lot of backtracking to mask the small size of the levels. And although the art design was pretty good, it was very repetitive. Honestly, 99% of the game had the exact same look. Once you've played the first level of Rapture, you've pretty much seen all the game has to offer.
In terms of graphics (and in terms of gameplay too). I could look at countless screen shots, and I'd have a hard time differentiating between levels. The only ones that stood out were the very beginning of the game (crash site to first bathysphere ride) and maybe the arboretum level. It's not at all like Half-Life 2 or Deux Ex or Thief, where each level felt unique. As for the enemies, I think there's always the same 5 or 6 enemies coming at you for the entire game. Not a lot of variety at all. I would've classified the "shooter" aspect of Bioshock as extremely poor, except the Plasmids managed to save the game from becoming too boring. These plasmids (ie special powers) at least manage to make the game more fun. The game mechanics doesn't have a lot of depth to it either. Stealth is poorly done. Although there are many ways to kill your foes, but there's almost always only one way to finish the level. The "hacking" part of the game is really the exact same minigame played over and over and over from the beginning to the very end. There's hardly any variety to the gameplay. Half Life 2 was a great game. So was Deus Ex. So was Thief. The Last Express. Fallout. Planescape Torment. Grand Theft Auto. Those were games that transcended their respective genres. Bioshock, on the other hand, is a one-trick-pony. It's a mediocre shooter turned into a decent game by great presentation, thought-provoking storyline, and superb voice acting. . these resumes what i think about Bioshok... no fanboyism, i think that like HALO, these game is very overrated, 8/10 in my opnion but never that nonsense "10/10" Eurogamer and other sites gave.
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MasterNameless
12/09/08 @ 15:55
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@Apologie
I love the way you had to completely butcher the paragraph structure of someone else's post on some random website so it wouldn't be blatantly obvious you were simply 'copy and pasting'. It was still pretty obvious I'm afraid, that's why I googled a line from your post to find the original source very easily. If your fanboyism/trolling is really that ridiculous, and the next time you want to try and bash a game you've never played, simply because it's one the very best games on your 'rival' console, then try and actually read and digest what the person you are plagiarising is writing. Then at least try and put it into your own words! And just in case the above link wasn't obvious enough. This is a link to Apologie's 'copy and paste' source. edit: grammar and spelling, and fixed link, damn it!
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