BioShock Comments by Tom Bramwell
We take the PS3 down into Rapture for the first time.
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"@Dizzy: Why wouldn't they be using the latest (at the time) PS3 version of UE3? It can still pull in the same resources, their engine additions can still be added to the main core. "
Yes they probably are.. but the game assets are probably still optimized for the "old" build (and less complex than they could be). That was my point. |
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@Dizzy: "but the game assets are probably still optimized for the "old" build (and less complex than they could be). That was my point."
So you're guessing, then. What are the new bells and whistles in UE3 that wern't there when this was originally released then? Anyone with a Unreal licence can update to the latest version every day if they want, so I doubt they'll be using the same codebase from a year ago. |
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kangarootoo
09/09/08 @ 12:09
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Updating to the next version of the Unreal engine is quite a step though. Its very unwise to just update a software engine and assume it will do everything the previous version did without issue, especially if you are adapting the engine with custom work of your own AND porting to a different platform at the same time.
I would expect it to be more or less the same version of Unreal as the 360 version used, purely from the standpoint of risk free development. That said, maybe the delay was because they DID update the core engine and had a few perfectly understandable wrinkles to iron out along the way? Would love to know either way. |
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andywilkie35
09/09/08 @ 12:10
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story was shitting awesome. I'm glad this is coming to ps3 so that it reaches as wide an audience as possible
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kangarootoo
09/09/08 @ 12:12
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@dsmx
People often level that complaint at games, but I'm not quite sure I get it. If a player chooses to hoof it through the game, surely they are just playing the game the way they want to? I didn't rush through Bioshock, and tbh the thought never even occured to me to do so, as I felt absorbed by what I was involved in. If the impatient player had been prevented from making progress at their preferred rate, would they have had a better or worse experience? I would guess at worse. Sometimes we just have to accept that if one player gets impatient where another player felt absorbed and interested, the game just wasn't the right thing for their very personal tastes. You can never please everyone, and neither should you try.
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They're not updating to the next version though, just merging in changes to the current version. It all depends on what Epic have done to the engine since the first release on 360. I'd bet 2K have been updating their codebase fairly frequently in the past year, it's very unlikely they would have locked down the code after the 360 version, they would have plenty of changes to make for the PS3 code anyway. |
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The thing is once you realise how effective just shocking and burning your way through the game is you have no need to play it any other way as it's so dam effective. If they'd of made some of the splicers immune to burning and shocking it would of added more strategy to the game with very little effort from the programmers perspective.
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farticusmaximus
09/09/08 @ 12:35
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"The thing is once you realise how effective just shocking and burning your way through the game is you have no need to play it any other way as it's so dam effective. If they'd of made some of the splicers immune to burning and shocking it would of added more strategy to the game with very little effort from the programmers perspective."
Quite true. I do like Bioshock a lot and like that you can experiment with loadouts, but you are correct in saying that the devs could have done more to encourage that sort of experimentation. I think, however, that the challenge rooms might provide that exact kind of incentive. Fingers crossed those challenge rooms come as DLC to the other platforms. "But I thought all PS3 games proted from the 360 were shit?" Blatant and pathetic trolling attempt, which has failed. |
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There are a lot of effective strategies, not just shocking and burning. Personally I was a big fan of Target Decoy, and another mate of mine thought Security Bullseye was the best plasmid and so on. I also quite like the fact that the game doesn't force you to choose a way to fight. The enemies are mostly organic, so bullets, lightning, fire, etc all damage them and you can apply whichever you like best.
Best art direction in a game I've played, and I liked the story too. |
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I bought the Collector's Edition of this (to the PC) and was blown away.. by how shallow it really was. No choices you made mattered since the outcome was always the same. You didn't have to worry about which powers you should choose to develop, you could switch between them anyhow. Five different enemy types throughout the entire game! Linear, no puzzles to speak of, no punishment if you died and the end boss was like going back to the eighties and was such a total mismatch with the rest of the game.
I don't know which was hyped worst: Oblivion or Bioshock. |
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RedSparrows
09/09/08 @ 13:13
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This game was fucking fantastic. Ignoring the relatively shallow moral choices, you still have a brilliant FPS/adventure.
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RedSparrows
09/09/08 @ 13:14
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Terrible art direction?
WHUT yeah lol bioshock has such a poor and uninteresting game world, populated with identikit enemies..... er |
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I think its fair to say that this is a game that everyone should at least try. Sure it's not for everyone, but it is definitely worth a try as it would be a shame to miss out on what might potentially be a great game for you.
Personally I very much enjoyed the game. Didn't think much of the story tbh but then again I never do with computer games. The fact that PS3 owners get to take it for a spin can only be seen as good news for everyone. Give it a shot. |
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kangarootoo
09/09/08 @ 13:36
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@BobsUncle
"They're not updating to the next version though, just merging in changes to the current version" I'm pretty sure there is no real any difference between the two. Isn't that just like later buying a jacket to go with your trousers instead of just buying the whole suit in one go? What you end up with is a version of an engine that isn't the same as the one you started with, which brings with it extra development risk. I don't know what they did exactly, I am just thinking out loud really. |
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This game is battling for the most overrated game ever award with GTA4, Oblivion and Halo 3
That's a little unfair, I think those games are just divisive rather than over-rated. Clearly lots of people enjoyed them - I thought Bioshock and Halo were mostly boring, GTA IV was OK and Oblivion was excellent. BUt yes, it's odd that those four games all got universal praise from professional reviewers when the public seem so divided on them. |
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"This game is battling for the most overrated game ever award with GTA4, Oblivion and Halo 3... Ridiculously contrived story (would even look bad in a summer blockbuster), terrible animation, poor and uninteresting mechanics and terrible art direction. The sound is good, that's about it..."
Just because you keep shouting is much and loud as possible in every thread, doesn't mean that your small-minded ideas become a reality. You do crack me up every time you post that crap though. |
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kinky_mong
09/09/08 @ 14:09
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Loved this game even though the criticisms that you could rush through using the electro shock and blast to the face combo are very true (found this out when I got the Brass Balls achievement with very little effort). The art direction and the little things like the splicers muttering to themselves were what really sold this game to me. It's good that PS3 owners will have a chance to play it, but I hope the challenge rooms will make their way onto the 360 as download content at some point.
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Played and own the 360 version and I have to say I think its great that its coming out on the PS3. Unless the FPS is a genre you dont like then its really a no brainer I would say. Lets face it theres not that much that rivals this on the PS3 (I have both consoles) Thats not to say its without flaws but people trying to say its crap are either being overly harsh or attempting to be provocative. PS3 only owners should jump at the chance to experience the atmosphere on offer in this game.
As for the comments on bad animation and so on I must get my eyes tested as I cant see why anyone would come to that conclusion.
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YeOldeGamer
09/09/08 @ 15:07
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One of my top 3 fave games for the 360.
Given it's only £29.99, I may actually buy it for PS3. Getting the trophies would be nice too. |
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Godhather08
09/09/08 @ 16:38
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OMG a very good and unbiased preview on EG!!!!
Very good job Tom Bramwell. This is how I like'em. |
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stodgypudding
09/09/08 @ 16:59
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If you read and believe some of the above comments you might not play this game. Which imho would be a shame.
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Discalceaterabbit
09/09/08 @ 17:47
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Does it require online activation and limit you to two installs on the PS3 ?
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