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Battlefield 1943 Hands On

PC Xbox 360 PlayStation 3
Hands On by Tom Bramwell

27 March, 2009

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One big tweak came only very recently, in response to feedback on the Wake Island trailer. Apparently you all thought it looked too much like Battlefield Heroes, DICE's toonified third-person PC spin-off. Iwo Jima is considerably darker. Presumably if you pipe up again, Guadalcanal - the third of the maps, which no one has seen in its 1943 form yet - will be set at night under clouds inside Tim Burton's head, wearing a blindfold made of dried blood and mucus. "Guadalcanal is also a good blend of vehicles and infantry, but it's such a huge map and also has a lot of hills. There's a lot of sniping in that level," Liu says of it.

Another distinctive facet is the technology itself. 1943 may be a download-only multiplayer shooter built for an impulse purchase, but as we noted last time it's also built on Bad Company's proprietary Frostbite engine, which means fully destructible environments - more so even than last year's physics-heavy console shooter. Propane blows holes in buildings, towers fall, and fences buckle under tank-tread - Christian was much more poetic. Despite this, and the 24 players running around the Xbox 360 version we're playing on devkits, the frame-rate ping-pongs between 30 and 60fps.

It's enormous fun, but it still has me worried. There are sceptics among the Battlefield hardcore, but they should be converted when the demo versions hit around the time of the game's summer release on PC, Xbox Live Arcade and PlayStation Network. The bigger problem is going to be finding a look-in audience, because whatever price DICE ends up going with - and after discussing it with Liu, and the series' executive producer Karl-Magnus Troedsson, I'd be surprised if it wasn't 1200 Microsoft Points, although they won't commit just yet - people are going to say it's 'only got three maps', even though they represent hours of potential gameplay.

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Killing someone with a katana is a mark of honour - so much so that it's recognised by a specific mark of honour.

"We are considering how we can communicate that," Liu says. "For fans that are familiar with Battlefield, they know how deep it is and how many hours you can get out of just one level. For new players, it is difficult to communicate how much playtime you get out of these few levels. We know from experience that the Wake Island demo for 1942 was played a lot. Some people never stopped playing it. So I don't have any answer to how we can solve that, but yes, it is an issue."

For Liu though, the most important thing about Battlefield 1943 - a project that span off from his own experiments with Frostbite after Bad Company was locked down at the start of 2008 - is that it captures "the spirit of Battlefield 1942". When I speak to him after his presentation, he tries to sum it up.

"I don't want to downplay the seriousness of war, but at the same time it's a lot of fun - just pure fun of being able to do basically everything in the game. One classic is to arm your jeep with C4 or dynamite and drive into the enemy base and just blow up everything. And it's not a mechanic that we built in just for that thing - it's just a result of the sandbox experience, and that together with more down-to-earth vehicles and weapons, because they're older, that makes the experience of Battlefield."

Even though it's undoubtedly more accessible, it's hard to argue that Battlefield 1943 is anything but an extension of that, and the things it's doing differently sit very comfortably alongside the equally classic, headlong rush for the nearest helicopter. It's just a shame none of us appears to know what to do with one.

Battlefield 1943 is due out for Xbox 360, PS3 and PC this summer.

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Bagpuss
27/03/09 @ 13:14
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BATTLEFIELD 3 .......

Not this time wasting crap.....i played Battlefield 1942 , 7 years ago ffs, i have no desire to play a version for 'console kiddies'.

BATTLEFIELD 3 IS WHAT WE WANT DICE.
mcbi4kh2
27/03/09 @ 13:19
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interested, hope its as good as Warhawk.

Has bad company been in the EG face-off series?
dsmx
27/03/09 @ 13:20
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3 maps? even the bf hero's beta has 3 maps and when that launches it will be free. I'm struggling to see what the point in bf1943 is.
kestral
27/03/09 @ 13:21
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looks good 1942 was the one that was played most here in the office so looking forward to that.
mcbi4kh2
27/03/09 @ 13:23
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1942 was the one that was played most here in the office

awesome, any jobs going?
mashk
27/03/09 @ 13:25
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Three maps doesn't sound alot, but, I remember only ever playing Strke at Karkland on BF2. As long, as it's three astonishingly good maps, I'll be happy.

Looking forward to it.
glaeken
27/03/09 @ 13:32
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This will be a buy for me :) I do wish they had picked some other 1942 maps beyond the pacific ones though as I have played them a bit too much. Still they do say they have made changes so lets hope these freshen things up some what.
AphoticCosmos
27/03/09 @ 13:37
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Will get it simply for some BF love, but I really want BF3 kthx >:|
jaluuk
27/03/09 @ 13:41
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"Killing someone with a katana is a mark of honour - so much so that it's recognised by a specific mark of honour."

VOCABULARY FAIL :)
Raajaa
27/03/09 @ 13:41
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buying this on release. Not just because I'm a Battlefield whore, but because I love the intense fights that it brings.
4thVariety
27/03/09 @ 13:43
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Cheap throwaway multiplayer game, why not. Pay $15, play it for a few week, forget it ever happened. Six months later, same game new textures. It sure beats a $60 game nobody is going to play a single day longer than the cheap counterpart.
Widge
27/03/09 @ 13:44
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Will it be anything like Day Of Defeat:Source?
rupert
27/03/09 @ 13:44
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helicopters1?!?! 1943?!?!! wtf
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27/03/09 @ 14:10
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helicopters1?!?! 1943?!?!! wtf

Hello and welcome to "History Today".

They had "viable" helicopters in the '20s and '30s. They were used in small numbers during WW II.
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27/03/09 @ 14:18
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3 maps? even the bf hero's beta has 3 maps and when that launches it will be free. I'm struggling to see what the point in bf1943 is.

I dare say it's an experiment: will we make enough money on smaller projects like this for them to be viable/more lucrative than spending loads more cash and time on bigger projects? Probably followed by: how much will people pay for extra maps?
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27/03/09 @ 14:18
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You can also spawn next to anyone else in the squad, rather than just the squad leader, so if he's a sniper hiding out in the distance, you can pick someone closer to the action and materialise there.

YEAH BABY!!!
glaeken
27/03/09 @ 14:21
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Yeah but aside from history helicopters were only in one of the expansions to 1942 that no-one ever played and did not feature on the Pacific maps nor have they featured in any of the media so far release for 1943.
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shamblemonkee
27/03/09 @ 14:25
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bagpuss, do you really need to spout off that shit in every thread about this game, including the video comments?

if you're not interested.. jog on.

looks good to me i enjoyed the original and will take a peek at this.
WiseNail
27/03/09 @ 14:34
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Tom

Are you able to clarify if it supports split screen and / or bots to fill out private rosters?
ronuds
27/03/09 @ 15:01
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24 players isn't enough to really capture the feeling of an epic battle.

Fail! :P
AphoticCosmos
27/03/09 @ 15:10
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24 players isn't enough to really capture the feeling of an epic battle.

Fail! :P


Y'know they said within the same paragraph that it's not a hard-coded limit ;)
glaeken
27/03/09 @ 15:28
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The 24 player count worked great for BF:BC in gold rush mode but 1943 does not have gold rush so the 24 count might work out a little low. I guess we will have to see.
Adam_T
27/03/09 @ 15:38
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I hope this one has a server browser that does'nt crash like a bitch and a overactive punkbuster that goes mental.

Oh, and if they didn't release it in pre-alpha form like most other BF games, that would be good too.
rashes
27/03/09 @ 17:40
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This is a really great idea and I'd expect a minimum price of 1200 MS points. I think it would be justified. I play rarely plat COD and Battlefield single played but end up spending 55 Euro on those mainly to get my hands on the multi-player.

Look sweet too.

Spekingur
27/03/09 @ 17:44
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I loved BF1942. I have to this day wanted a new one with a new graphics engine. So yes, finally some loving! And proper viewing distances without stupid fog.
Jonny5Alive7
27/03/09 @ 19:49
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I agree with Bagpuss at the top of the comments. I'm a huge Battlefield fan but going back to WW2 just feels like a step backwards. Battlefield 2 was awesome, I want a sequel to that which is even better. Plus I used to love 64 player servers, where sometimes it just went crazy because there was so much going on. I'd prefer this to 24 players only.

Also the maps they're doing are classics, but is it not a bit lazy just rehashing the same old maps and just changing the scenario slightly?
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sneetch
27/03/09 @ 20:42
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Yeah but aside from history helicopters were only in one of the expansions to 1942 that no-one ever played and did not feature on the Pacific maps nor have they featured in any of the media so far release for 1943.


Ah. Fair enough so. I'm not sure whether they'll be all that good anyway, are they even armed, I wonder?
Anthony_UK
27/03/09 @ 22:15
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Didn't the console version of battlefield 2 also have a 12 player limit per team? That was perfectly fine.... I was worried about this, but after just watching an in game vid on gametrailers (sorry on my iPhone so can't link) I really can't wait! It'll keep me going till the main event of bad company 2! And modern warfare 2 and flashpoint 2......I just won't be leaving the house the later half of this year! :-)
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27/03/09 @ 22:34
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BATTLEFIELD 3 .......

Not this time wasting crap.....i played Battlefield 1942 , 7 years ago ffs, i have no desire to play a version for 'console kiddies'.

BATTLEFIELD 3 IS WHAT WE WANT DICE.


This this and this again.
RedSparrows
27/03/09 @ 23:08
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Naysayers, shut up. This is an interesting idea for XBLA/PSN, hopefully it will end up being yumz. I doubt you hardcore leet types are going to be ignored for ever.
metalangel
28/03/09 @ 08:57
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Katanas!? Fuck off, seriously. Every map you'll be dealing with twats just charging at you and one hit killing you. They had them on ONE map in Forgotten Hope and it ruined it. Also, no explanation of how we will repair vehicles/heal teammates in the absence of the medic and engineer classes.
Tetsuo_Shima
28/03/09 @ 10:09
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Three maps shouldnt be too big a problem since players of bf2:mc insisted on the 3-map b2f/backstab/hidden pass cycle anyway. This is a purchase for me, so long as it is 1200 points (or less).
Errol
28/03/09 @ 13:28
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Massively simplified version of 1942/BF2 gameplay. Don't see the point really.

And how on earth can they change Wake? One side HAS to be defending the island ffs.
PearOfAnguish
28/03/09 @ 13:58
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Real Battlefield fans want a remake or follow-up to 1942, not more modern warfare gubbins.
BiffTanner
28/03/09 @ 14:47
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"Real Battlefield fans want a remake or follow-up to 1942, not more modern warfare gubbins."

Couldnt agree more, which is why im psyched for 1943, just hope more maps are to follow.
Its all well and good for another modern day BF at some point but since we have had modern day and future setting most recently a ww2 setting should be done first imo.
Jonny5Alive7
28/03/09 @ 21:58
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Why? Theres gazillions of WW2 shooters already, plus not that much changed between 1942 and 1943 :-)
Mr-Bozzey
29/03/09 @ 12:07
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should be good it will ease the wait of BF-BC2 but i have to agree i would love a BF-3 still 1943 and bf-bc 2 is a welcomed pair for me.

i find the BF games probably the best online FPS ever i love KZ2 and COD but BF just makes you feel in a epic battle on epic sized maps you really feel part of the frontline just love the series !
metalangel
29/03/09 @ 12:11
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mrbozzey you might enjoy Frontlines, same guys who made the Desert Combat mod.
aphexstwin
30/03/09 @ 09:29
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am i the only one who doesnt want destructable environments? some of the best fights in bf2mc are over well defended buildings and the barrels of doom thread on the forum was awesome. bfbc just doesnt have that same feeling of pure humour to it, nor a sense of easy gameplay. i love the look of the fb engine, just dont like its physics. and no ww2 backstab? no sale!
Tlaloc
29/06/09 @ 03:02
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I played the snow village demo of Battlefield 1942 against bots for about 3 years. Hours a day, day in day out. At the time I had a crap internet link and I never tired of that demo. After some months, I bought the game but it had higher system requirements than the demo and my PC was incapable of running it properly. I went back to the demo. Now I have a fat internet pipe and DICE are promising me a version that is sure to work on my 360. Will I be buying it? Oh my most indeedily doodily! In fact, I am expecting a life altering experience. In fact, I am getting quite pathological about the idea of land mines and C4. I am oiling up my looney laugh, I am. See you all in a couple of weeks. Bring your own matches.
jambo74
08/07/09 @ 20:22
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Can't get on the severs. Once again DICE let us down at a launch. No buy.
m0thr4
09/07/09 @ 22:10
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Launched on PSN today and no problems with the servers. I guess they were prepared this time.

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