Bastard of the Old Republic Comments by John Walker
Part 2: Bastardier.
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Raymeister
22/03/09 @ 09:10
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Brilliant article sir. Cracked me up. This type of thing is what sets Eurogamer apart from the crowd. Look forward to the next installment of Simon Evil's adventures.
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Bloodhunter
22/03/09 @ 09:57
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i might get this again, just cos i was light when i 1st had it
great article, hk-47 ftw! |
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I absolutely loved reading this, highly entertaining -- I'm very much looking forward to part two.
I can remember playing KOTOR ages ago and trying to be evil for a bit, but I just couldn't sustain it and in the end, the most evil thing I probably did was making Bastilla wear some kind of S&M-type garb I came across for the rest of the game. It doesn't surprise me that I barely scraped the surface of the game even though I played it to the end... I might have to dig it out and give it another try. Whilst I know it's not the point of the article, how does it fair up on modern hardware? |
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DarthInsinuate
22/03/09 @ 11:41
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If I remember correctly, at some point in the game you have a conversation with Carth asking him why he so gleefully assists you murdering innocent people. He just claims it's your "evil influence".
I wish you could get evil points for making him walk in to battles with no weapons or clothes. |
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@roBurky - I didn't really see it that way. It was three fields, and one camp. I slaughtered my way through one camp of them, but figuring planets to be pretty big, I'd say it was quite a ways of genocide.
@chrisc - I keep being surprised how pretty the game still looks. There are a couple of issues with hardware, and it crashed a lot for me at first. I then did the following fix and it seemed to stop. Find the swkotor.ini file in your installation directory, and under [graphics options] add the line: Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1 |
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Transcendent
22/03/09 @ 12:31
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John Walker: While it's fun to read about the comical evil in an old mainstream Bioware game, I'm worried that articles like this pull what little attention exists away from classics like Planescape: Torment where you probably wouldn't even stand to look at some of the evil options.
There's also the Mask of the Betrayer expansion for NWN2 where you among other things can take the souls of everyone of your companions and forge them into a powerful amulet. :D
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He he, this article is great! Out of 21ish years of gaming, KOTOR is probably one of my favourite games ever, I think I played it through about nine times with different standard and jedi classes, switiching between good and evil on each different playthrough. HK-47 has to be one of the best videogame, or indeed Star Wars characters ever, better than anything George Lucas himself has thought up within the Star Wars universe in the last couple of decades [Jar Jar Binks, cough wink]. I think Simon Evil is going to enjoy his trip to Korriban....
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kentmonkey
22/03/09 @ 14:00
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HK-47 is not the evil equivalent of Comic Relief. For a start he manages to be quite camp and funny. Something Alan Carr misses by a country mile. That and he doesn't repeatedly spout comic diatribe through your speakers and then present you with an image of someone dying on your screen. Admittedly it's usually Alan Carr again, killing his own career on live TV, but there were some genuine people in need of help as well.
Now take that back immediately, HK-47 is much funnier, you evil bastard. |
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AphoticCosmos
22/03/09 @ 14:20
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Going to be replaying KotOR again thanks to a) The Old Republic \o/, b) finally having the time to do it, c) this article!
Great read :D I was always unfailingly good except for my few deliberate darkside playthroughs just to see how bad of a douche I could be. Even as someone who is traditionally nice to people in games, I did find the darkside options creatively ebil and fun >:) |
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Ninja_Tino
22/03/09 @ 17:14
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I replayed KOTOR and KOTOR II after the first article, as a real bad ass, naming myself myself 'Sonny Evil', (not original, but Evil goes great with any forename) and had such a blast. So much so, I have adopted that persona in real life and having an even bigger blast.
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On the "running on a modern machine" side of things. The main thing that throws up problems is having more than 1 CPU or more likely more than 1 CPU core. To resolve start the game then hit Ctrl-Alt-Del then find swkotor.exe (or whatever it's called) in the processes tab of your task manager, right click and hit "Set Affinity..." and uncheck all but 1 cpu. This should resolve any problems. (you can tell by looking at the cursor, if it's flickering in game you'll have to do this)
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The original article inspired me to buy both KotOR I and II for the PC, since I've only ever enjoyed them on X-Box (and never owned a gaming capable PC, until now).
Even after Mass Effect and other RPGs, KotOR is so far ahead of the majority of Western developed RPGs, it's astounding. Is it due to developer incompetence or purely because KotOR is such excellence that it can only occur rarely? I'd say it's a bit of both. Nice article! |
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FAO: All of you commenters saying you didn't play the dark side in KOTOR...
You're missing out on so much of the game, and so much fun. My real self is not a shard on how my ingame character acted (#1 sadisitc guy in the galaxy), but I still really enjoyed doing it. Maybe I should see a doctor? I played the lightside on my second playthrough and it was nowhere near as fun as the darkside. Also, the most evil thing you can do in game HAS to be making the wookie kill mission with your force powers. Now THAT'S evil. I bet you chicken out of doing it though...if you're truly becoming evil you'll prove me wrong! ;) |
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spacedmonkeys
23/03/09 @ 09:09
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Never even played the game, and have skipped over the previous article just because it was KOTOR related (yawn).
However I'm so glad I read this! "You asked for this!" almost made me splutter my tea out and the whole article put me in a good mood for the rest of Monday! Going back to read the first one now :) |
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andywilkie35
23/03/09 @ 09:20
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Great article John - makes me wish they'd do a KOTOR 3 rather than a MMO!
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Jonny5Alive7
23/03/09 @ 10:03
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Excellent, I really laughed reading some of this. Can't wait for the next episode of Simon Evil's adventures!
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PlugMonkey
23/03/09 @ 10:44
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HK-47 is not the evil equivalent of Comic Relief. For a start he manages to be quite camp and funny. Something Alan Carr misses by a country mile. That and he doesn't repeatedly spout comic diatribe through your speakers and then present you with an image of someone dying on your screen. Admittedly it's usually Alan Carr again, killing his own career on live TV, but there were some genuine people in need of help as well.
Now take that back immediately, HK-47 is much funnier, you evil bastard. I think he may have meant comic relief with a lowercase 'c' and 'r', as in the narrative construct rather than the increasingly unfunny but oh so worthy BBC telethon. |
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I never got the point of having those "moral choices". It always comes down to a single choice affecting the plot, nothing else really matters.
Would be so much more interesting if they'd programmed in some extra paths and endings. If Chrono Trigger could do it...hell, choose your own adventure books could do it! Would make things far more interesting if you weren't just heading along the same path, just with dialogue changes. |
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"choose your own adventure books could do it!"
Christ I haven't heard anyone mention those in YEARS! Steve Jackson. Ian Livingston. GODS! My favs were Deathtrap Dungeon, Forest OF Doom, Trial Of Champions and House Of Hell. :) / rolls, wounds the creature, subtracts 2 points from its STAMINA score. feels 8 again. |
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Emilia'sHorse
16/04/09 @ 19:20
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Only just discovered this article, was offline for a while. Caught the first part, this is even better. Thank you, can we have some more?
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