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Banjo not cancelled, says Rare News

Xbox 360 News by Games Industry.biz

12 November, 2007

A source at UK developer Rare has told GamesIndustry.biz that its Banjo-Kazooie title for Xbox 360 has not been cancelled, despite rumours to the contrary.

There is speculation that development of a major, first-party Microsoft title has been stopped. But, if true, this is "definitely not" Banjo-Kazooie, says the source at the Microsoft-owned developer.

Rumours have intensified since Shane Bettenhausen, of US magazine EGM, mentioned them on last week's 1up Yours podcast.

"A big Microsoft first-party title that has been in the works for a very long time, that people are very excited for, sounds like it's being cancelled," said Bettenhausen. He added that the story had a "97 per cent chance" of being true, and may break this week.

Much of the subsequent speculation has focused on Banjo-Kazooie. The finger has been pointed at the latest in the popular series of platform games due to the poor sales of Rare's other family-oriented 360 games, Kameo and Viva Pinata.

What colour is fact? How many is news? For none of those answers and more, GamesIndustry.biz.

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ostrasized
12/11/07 @ 14:58
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Fable II is my bet
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Steroyd
12/11/07 @ 14:59
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Where are all these rumours that I've never heard before getting debunked from?

First the 40% 40GB failure rate, now this wtf?
souljacker2000
12/11/07 @ 15:01
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mass effect
KingOfSpain
12/11/07 @ 15:07
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Sounds increasingly like Fable 2!
spud71
12/11/07 @ 15:07
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Maybe they are nowhere near the playabilty of Galaxy. Because Banjo was better than Mario 64 when it first came out and there was a sequel as well.
WrongShui
12/11/07 @ 15:08
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Too Human
Reihn
12/11/07 @ 15:09
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"97 percent" . . . oh please.

Saying something like this on air (on download?) and not backing it up -at all- is stupid. Only thing it's confirmed is that Bettenhausen is 98% gotard.

Idiot.
L0cky
12/11/07 @ 15:09
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Alan Wake already got debunked?

heh, some guy on 1up says 'some game somewhere got cancelled' and people are actually having to debunk it for their specific games?
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12/11/07 @ 15:10
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Great. At least that is out of the way.

Now just confirm it's not Fable 2, or confirm that the whole stupid thing was just fiction to begin with and we're on our way.

Xerx3s
12/11/07 @ 15:12
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"A big Microsoft first-party title that has been in the works for a very long time, that people are very excited for, sounds like it's being cancelled,"

You have got to be joking me. "Some MSG game that we do not know the name of has been cancelled! So the 'source' told them that it was cancelled but forgot to mention what?

The words "page hits", "Attention whore", "lack of news" spring to mind. Even if it's true, the fact that they have no clue other than there might be something that is cancelled makes them what? Still the words of above imo.

I can say with 97% accuracy that this shane guy is an idiot.
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mattigan
12/11/07 @ 15:13
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My money's on Too Human too(?!?) It's been in development since the N64 (when it last looked interesting IMO) and has now turned into some DMC clone. I just don't think it is able to compete with the competition in its current form from what I've seen of it.
peteb
12/11/07 @ 15:13
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Too Human, definately
Yossarian
12/11/07 @ 15:15
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bettenhausen is a joke
Gurgeh
12/11/07 @ 15:17
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Would Too Human count as a first party title?
cyacomini
12/11/07 @ 15:18
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@ BNinjaC

Alan Wake is not a first party title, it's third party.

peteb
12/11/07 @ 15:20
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@Gurgeh

oh, good point! maybe not so definately then...
Darren
12/11/07 @ 15:23
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Well there's aren't many first-party games beyond Fable, Halo, PGR and Forza Motorsport, are there, if it isn't a Rare title?

Halo as a FPS has finished anyway, Bizarre Creations have left so Microsoft only have PGR in name only and Forza Motorsport is too successful for Microsoft to scrap it. That only leaves Fable 2 really but surely that is nearly finished by now. Why cancel something that's well into development... wouldn't make sense to me. So what else can it be? :?

Doesn't sound like it's Kameo 2... LOL
Steroyd
12/11/07 @ 15:24
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"A big Microsoft first-party title that has been in the works for a very long time, that people are very excited for"

Rules out Too Human then. :P
the_dudefather
12/11/07 @ 15:26
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almost hope its too human, so then they get to work on Eternal Darkness 2
jonsaan
12/11/07 @ 15:26
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Way of the Exploding Fist 3.
Fooo
12/11/07 @ 15:27
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If it is Too Human. Which wouldn't surprise me. It might be an interesting indication of how the legal situation stands between silicon knights and epic as well...
Grogmonkey
12/11/07 @ 15:27
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I very much doubt it's Fable 2. When I last talked to a friend of mine who's on the Fable team, there wasn't even a rumbling of 'this game isn't going to get made'. In fact, it seemed to be going fairly well.

Still, stranger things have happened.
Darren
12/11/07 @ 15:29
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Surely it isn't Mass Effect? God, I hope not, that really would be a shock if it was that game... :/

Nah, unlikely, and the wording makes it sound like it's something still in development, perhaps unannounced. Mass Effect is finished I believe as it's gone gold.

Can't think what it be really...
cyacomini
12/11/07 @ 15:30
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From Gamespress - Microsoft published titles due between now and 2013.

Scene It? Lights, Camera, Action 16/11/2007
Viva Piñata: Party Animals 16/11/2007
Mass Effect 23/11/2007
Mass Effect Limited Collector's Edition 23/11/2007
Lost Odyssey Winter 2007
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom 1/2/2008
Halo Wars 2008
Too Human 2008
Everyparty TBA
Love Football TBA
Alan Wake TBA
Marvel Universe Online TBA
Fable 2 TBA
Hexic 2 TBA
Puzzle Quest TBA
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12/11/07 @ 15:31
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I bought my 360 as I felt Fable 2 was a guarantee, if the game doesn't see the light of day then I'm gonna be pissed!
Please let it be Too Human (maybe MS see that the trilogy isn't going to be a great success and want to nip it in the bud)
Trane
12/11/07 @ 15:33
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Killer Instinct 3.

/spannerinworks
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chudders
12/11/07 @ 15:36
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It's not cancelled, it's just resting.
peteb
12/11/07 @ 15:38
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if this is a big game like fable 2, im going to be slightly concerned about the 360s future, what with Bizarre Creations, Bioware and the like also not being snapped up by MS.
Xerx3s
12/11/07 @ 15:39
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If it is anything, it's that Peter Jackson project. It has never materialised into even the most basic things such as concept art while other projects such as Fable 2, Too Human, BK3, AW, etc. are next to finished/so long into production that they might as well sit it out to the end for a refund.

Unless MS has some hidden project up their sleeves, the only thing that it can be is that PJ project. Anything else would be pure destruction of capital (dropping a game a couple of months before completion is stupid beyond belief).
Reihn
12/11/07 @ 15:39
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Oh, and just for an added bucket of Here There Be Bullshit, Bettenhausen is 1up's resident Sony fan/apologist. He's hardcore - he loves Home and LBP to death, and refuses to hear a word against the PS3's functionality, pricing, games etc.

His chances of being the one and only guy to have sourced a piece of exclusive Microsoft Games Studio news? Slim to none.
Monkey_Puncher
12/11/07 @ 15:42
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It won't be Fable 2, don't be insane!

If true it'll be something that everyone's forgotten about, maybe that Marvel MMO?

I would have literally killed small animals if it had been Banjo, I've only been waiting for that for about 7 years.
The Bodybuilder
12/11/07 @ 15:42
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This place is turning into the forum.

But I'm concerned about the large amount of people thinking it's Too Human. Yes I know there was supposed to be a public demo in october that never happened, or that no blog has been posted recently.
Not only will TH be great, but I doubt it due to:
1. It's not a "first party".
2. It cost waaay too much money. At this stage, it's better to release it to recoup some money, than never at all (let's not forget the rumours of it being the most expensive MS game).
3. It's too cool.

But most people in the forum pretty much agree it would be halo wars, that's IF this RUMOUR is even true.
Monkey_Puncher
12/11/07 @ 15:46
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It won't be Halo Wars and it won't be Too Human, infact I very much doubt that a game's even been cancelled.
smirny
12/11/07 @ 15:53
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DUKE NUKEM FOREVER!

sorry.

/coat
Xerx3s
12/11/07 @ 15:55
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Too Hunam not Too Human people, get your English right.
Dizzy
12/11/07 @ 16:11
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Obviously the game that is canceled is Marvel Online.

But TBH... this rumor is totally bogus.
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Mentalist(air)
12/11/07 @ 16:12
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Too Hunam not Too Human people, get your English right.


What are you on about?

Is that supposed to be some oblique joke?
Gurgeh
12/11/07 @ 16:14
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Doubt it's the Marvel MMO as the developerjust sold City of Heroes to NCSoft so that they could focus on it. And it isn't first party. TBH unless MS are switching Forza development to PGR I don't see it being a big first party title.
bushwod
12/11/07 @ 16:16
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Too Hunman? Is that some kind of anti-germanic tribe game??
Xerx3s
12/11/07 @ 16:17
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Is that supposed to be some oblique joke?

/watches penny drop
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Arcadiian
12/11/07 @ 16:20
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Why do people keep saying it's Fable 2? Fable was a huge game for Microsoft, Lionhead are still putting out video diaries on Live, and as far as i'm aware it's all Lionhead are really making right now. Fable 2 will make Microsoft money, there's no reason to cancel it.
Darren
12/11/07 @ 16:22
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Well I'm struggling to think of any big games from Microsoft themselves that I'm desperately looking forward to beyond Mass Effect and Fable 2. I can't see it being either of those though so I can only conclude that if this rumour is true that the game in question isn't actually that eagerly awaited by many people at all.

Although Rare have confirmed it isn't Banjo-Kazooie 3, could it perhaps be the rumoured Perfect Dark Zero sequel...?

/thinks

Nah, can't be, no-one was looking forward to that... LOL
TheDifficult3rdAlbum
12/11/07 @ 16:29
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I would be more interested in this story if it's confirmed either way, so we know which game it is.

In the meantime, I don't comment on rumour or speculation.
MrChuckles
12/11/07 @ 17:06
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I know a lot of people on Fable 2... It's most definitely not Fable 2...
lennon
12/11/07 @ 17:19
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Almost certainly that Marvel MMO from what I have read.
Garulon
12/11/07 @ 17:24
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I'm thinking it's Halo Wars if anything. It's probably nothing though, Shane just a couple of weeks ago "called bullshit" on Sony pulling BC out of the PS3, as it was too retarded for Sony to even contemplate. Bless him :)
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MrChuckles
12/11/07 @ 17:31
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Yeah, not Scene It, not Mass Effect, not Fable 2, no idea on the others.
Emilia'sHorse
12/11/07 @ 17:46
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If they drop Fable 2 I am handing back my official fanboy badge.

Emilia'sHorse
12/11/07 @ 17:47
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@lennon

God I hope you are right.
kelly's_h
12/11/07 @ 17:53
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"Too Hunam not Too Human people, get your English right.

Is that supposed to be some oblique joke?"

It reminds me of the time I found out it was Conan and not Coman.

hahahaha

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