Banjo 3 boasts "unique" multiplayer News

ooh good. I'm on 'holiday' next week. It should be out by then according to your article.

"We somewhat grandly like to think that it will be a different take on the genre."

So banjo and kazooie will be heading into outer space and running around small planets and such?

Or it will be a party game...

A decent action platformer is I think the biggest lacking area in the 360's games catalogue right now. I'm going to pretend that shite like the new Trash Bandicoot game doesnt exist..

Sounds like it could be more like Uncharted than anything else.

I'm really not bothered about the multiplayer mode myself as I wouldn't play it anyway but I hope the single player game packs in as much content and lasts as long as the N64 originals. I'll be very upset if the game is shortened or compromised for the sake of an online mode.

@BadBoy - Christ I fucking hope not.

@Darren - Agree totally. Not everything needs to be online.

Can't wait. First Rare game developed for the 360 from day one so it should be pretty special.

@ Darren Agreed. Make it a freaking awesome SP.

Can we get a ingame screenshot already?

the first was great
the second though wasnt much fun at all, i hope this turns out okay

Rare's saving grace? (If any good)

I hope it's like a Mario platformer though, the 360 is seriously lacking games like that.

I love the idea of it taking a unique route, sounds very interesting.

PLEASE don't leave it long to tell us what exactly it is, Nintendo seem to do this all the time and by the time they tell us, i can't be arsed to get excited.

Hopefully at GDC next week, if they have any sense.

"Unique" multiplayer?

Co-op platforming. It has to be...

'Ratchet & Clank' isn't a patch on Banjo or Mario.

Both Banjo-Kazooie 1 AND 2 were Ace and great fun so sod off Fendermeister.

Banjo-Kazooie games are better than any Mario game IMO and i'm a Nintendo gamer first and foremost.

For me to play another console is a RARE occasion! Haha!! - I am SO funny!! ^-^

Yeah groovy (and why had the forum gone against you recently :P), I know what you mean but I want it to be right. I like rare and I want to respect them again.

I always thought Banjo- Kazooie was vastly overrated. Amazing graphics for the time but I was really disappointed with it gameplay wise when compared to Mario 64. Was a bit of a letdown at the time considering the hype...I thought all of their Donkey Kong games were pretty rubbish as well.

Didn't like Kong on N64 but BK is probably my all time fav platform game. I am sure the technical excellence on the system had something to do with it, or maybe it being British had an influence. Either way it rocked. Wish Rare had have been able to help Nintendo cram in better textures for Mario N64, ah well ya can't have everything.

N.B. Galaxy is currently threatening BK's position as a desert island disc.

Unique multiplayer, eh? Well, I remember Rare's Donkey Kong 64 having a multiplayer mode that was certainly "unique", but I don't really mean that in a good way.

I'm still not totally sold on Rare platformers, it has to be said; Banjo-Kazooie was pretty impressive at the time, but DK64 took the game's formula and ran it into the ground, thereby exposing the limitations that were present in the "collection adventure" genre from the outset. It was enough to sour me away from even playing Banjo-Tooie, so I can't speak for that, but B-K3 (Banjo-Threeie? Banjo-Kazoothree?) would have to be something very special to bring me back on board...

PDZ was very crapola

Banjo Theft Auto?

someone make a banjo string joke, i can't think of one

But it also won't be a traditional platformer


That statement there worries me slightly.... Banjo was always favored as a superb platformed, with great gameplay. I used to love the game for what it was.

To just change it is a bit bad imo. A bit like Fallout 3, we all know its going to suffer (and probably be shit) when the first two were classics. I think its called "Appeal to everyone disease".

>"@Darren - Agree totally. Not everything needs to be online."

Unless it's coop.
No online co-ops in platformers.

\0/

Full confidence in rare here. If it's half the game of the likes of VP & JP:R, it will be brilliant. Now all they need to do is port KI & Blastcorps to XBLa and they will be top dog again. Maybe the MP will be some sort of coop. Would be nice and plausible.

We aren't in the business of crushing little boys' dreams so your multiplayer hopes will be answered.

What multiplayer hopes? Seriously, who the hell gives a crap about that in a platformer?


But it also won't be a traditional platformer


That statement there worries me slightly.... Banjo was always favored as a superb platformed, with great gameplay. I used to love the game for what it was.

Indeed. I find it kind of aggravating that every single genre I love apparently needs to be "reinvented" (i.e. ruined) constantly, while the same fucking shit FPS gets to be released like 20 times a year.

Looks like those idiots who always say "NO MULTIPLAYER" as a flaw for most single-player driven games have had their dreams come true, probably at the cost of loyal fans.

Every-time I see a reader comment or some crap on a website beneath a game saying "no multiplayer" I literally want to drive to their house and throw a petrol bomb through their letterbox.

"while the same fucking shit FPS gets to be released like 20 times a year."

That's because they're mainly aimed at the American market. They won't notice.

does anyone in the UK actually care about ratchet and clank (other than me and like 5 other people)...no?, thought not...

if they dont care for that what makes anyone think that anyone will buy this?...

the mountain dewed up young americans are too busy calling everyone a "fag" ,shooting people in the face and laughing at borderline sexist language in such poetic games as conflict:denied ops

i want to be excited about what rare do, they took a gamble on the wonderfully wonderful viva pinata and it just didnt pay off...i even have to say i enjoyed kameo for what it was..its just that platformers are a surefire way for everyone to just ignore your game.. you can write a long list the length of a "saviour games of the ps3" list would be full of game titles on the ps2 etc etc that were ignored for being platformers..not just crappy platformers but proper quality software... banjo has a "silly name" and will no douby have an E for everyone rating or whatever tha theyt have and that is like a badge of dishonour for some people...like its a disease of something...

one upon a time someone wanted to know a good mutliplayer game to play with 4 players on the ps2 and i suggested we played ratchet and clank...it was met with (and this is a 20 year old) "what , that gay game with the 3+ rating on it..im not playing that shit"...

platformers+hardcore shooter crowd=death of rare... people are only going to be forgiving for so long

what? ratchet and clank has multiplayer?

Alarm bells are ringing already. i predict Banjo 3 will flop just as badly as viva pinata or worse, grabbed by the bollocks.

@J.C

If it flops like viva pinata, that'd be fine cos besides it "flopping" it'd be a pretty damn good game.

The latest need for speed will sell 5 billion copies, but i'd still take flops like viva pinata over it any goddamn day of the year.

@Nikanoru - the response about crushing your dreams was Rare's reply to a fan who sent in a letter saying how they loved the multiplayer modes Rare would put on their games on the n64 and they hoped Rare could do the same again with the new Banjo game. Rare basically then replied saying their dreams won't be crushed as there will be mutiplayer and it will be better than they imagined.

You can read the full Scribes (which is Rare's very long time running letters page) here:

http://rareware.com/extras/scribes/13feb...

I hope they dont change it too much.
RARE dont fuck this up!

I can't comment on Ratchet & Clank (only played the PS3 demo and that seemed rather linear to me) but the joy of Banjo-Kazooie was that it was a lot more varied in terms of what you could do. Like Zelda and Metroid there were lots of new abilities to be gained that each opened up the world in different ways. Banjo-Tooie should also be commended for the fact that it opened by giving you all the moves from the previous game allowing you to spend the whole game learning new ones (something I wish they would do for Metroid).

The one thing that really bothered me there was the secret ending to Banjo-Kazooie revealing all the hidden areas - but then absolutely nothing coming of them as the planned (but never really explained) link up was dropped and Rare eventually released codes to get to the areas in BK. Oh, and also the fact that unlike Mario it discouraged replaying by not letting you return to old tasks - even the final boss was removed after you completed the game once.