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APB Preview

MMO PC Xbox 360 PlayStation 3
Preview by Oli Welsh

17 June, 2009

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Let's start with the hardest question to answer. Is APB (All Points Bulletin), the new online game from the makers of Crackdown, an MMO?

Each copy of APB's San Paro - a contemporary, crime-ridden city, a violent playground for gangs of cops and robbers - will host 100 players. By the standards of an online shooter, that's a lot. By the standards of a thousands-strong World of Warcraft server, it's small. By the standards of EVE Online's single universe, it's minuscule. APB's claim on the "massive" part of "massively multiplayer" is looking rather slim, especially when the likes of Zipper's MAG, with its 256-player matches, aren't considered by most to qualify.

But massively multiplayer gaming isn't just about numbers. It's also about persistence, a sense of place, a sense of ownership, and of course, it's about other people. In a true MMO, the interaction between players - even if it's no more than the knowledge that you're sharing a world with them while you go about your own business - is equal to, greater than or synonymous with the game itself.

By that criteria, APB could well turn out to be one of the purest examples of the massively multiplayer online game since EVE.

The only characters you'll ever fight will be other players, and the clothes you wear and car you drive in the game will probably be designed by other players, if you didn't make them yourself. You'll steal from, sell to and shoot real people all the time, even if you never talk to them. APB is 100 per cent player-versus-player, with the game's missions substituting dynamic, real-time match-making for crafted encounters with hapless AI. This is what developer Realtime Worlds calls "players as content". It's quite scary. In a good way.

'APB' Screenshot 1

Enforcers will be able to have just as aggressive a street style as criminals - you'll know them by their badges.

So if you ask me, APB is very much an MMO. It's the supposedly easier questions that are harder to answer. Questions such as: when's it out, what formats is it on, and why haven't we seen it properly yet? This preview is based on an E3 presentation that, while fascinating, wasn't much more than a few videos loaded into PowerPoint, and the game itself was notably absent.

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MaxiSleep
17/06/09 @ 13:28
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So kinda like a battleground so...
jeebthegreat
17/06/09 @ 13:45
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this looks like it could be incredible
Ashen-Shugar
17/06/09 @ 13:46
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Yup, just sounds like a regular deathmatch but persistant, on a larger scale, with pimped clothing.

Would be interesting as a game mode, but somehow doesnt sound like it's a full game.
RexRunti
17/06/09 @ 13:48
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100 players per city is all well and good, but what happens 3 months after release or when you've got a bit of time off work and fancy a game during Tuesday afternoon?
jonarob
17/06/09 @ 13:52
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"Let's start with the hardest question to answer. Is APB (All Points Bulletin), the new online game from the makers of Crackdown, an MMO?"

It's in the MMO section!

*reads*
Spekingur
17/06/09 @ 14:18
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I always expected this to be like an online GTA. We shall wait and see.
ZuluHero
17/06/09 @ 14:24
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as long as the city has plenty of depth as well (get into/onto buildings etc), it'll be cool...
penhalion
17/06/09 @ 14:36
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Is it just me or did this article tell me nothing about what you would actually be doing in this city. If it's a large city, then I'm unlikely to even meet the other players let alone interact with them. Hmmm I'll wait and see how it pans out me thinks
Calgon
17/06/09 @ 14:41
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You should remove the PS3 icon because its unlikely at this point.

/Considers making some bullshit statements about this being too much for the PS3 to handle anyway and being miles ahead of anything on the platform in its genre... remembers how sad and bitter it looks when PS3 fanboys try it and passes on it.
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dadrester
17/06/09 @ 14:47
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what PS3 icon?
Eraysor
17/06/09 @ 14:49
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DO WANT
Widge
17/06/09 @ 14:51
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The blue rectangle blob, as opposed to the green one.... or the mystery orange shape (PC)
Widge
17/06/09 @ 14:52
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Also, do we get to laugh at the one trying to instigate platform war?
gman7714
17/06/09 @ 14:58
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cannot wait for this game.

Anyone seen the Eurgamer MMO article with Dave Jones mentioned in the link below. I couldn't find it!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-rep...
M_of_the_sys
17/06/09 @ 15:03
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@Widge

Yes. Always :D
gman7714
17/06/09 @ 15:13
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@RexRunti

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I need more info - What if your are the 1001 player to start a game, does that mean you have to loaf around a city on your own until someone else joins?

/goes to http://www.apb.com
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lord
17/06/09 @ 15:45
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not really interested in voice chat

oh, this won't make it to 360 either.
cowell
17/06/09 @ 15:49
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Aren't most of the Crackdown staff now at Ruffian working on Crackdown 2?
hiddenranbir
17/06/09 @ 16:08
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What will the monthly fee be? :\
layleeloo
17/06/09 @ 16:13
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Looks pretty. Sounds PANTS. Regardless what format it's on.
Mike P
17/06/09 @ 16:51
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It's not clear from this how the clan/gang angle will work. I assume if I get a dozen or so reprobates together we can all group up?

Not sure where all the negativity is coming from round this. Feels a lot less grindy than other MMOs, and the idea of smaller instances means that the RvR should work well, so long as the matchmaking is good.

It's not like you've got a few massive servers where it's almost impossible to get a good balance between the opposing factions. WAR, I'm looking at you.


JayPea
17/06/09 @ 16:54
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day one purchase
Orange
17/06/09 @ 17:09
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As noted in the article you can switch servers at will, so not really an issue in terms of activity and ques. If your servers dead just switch to an active one.

Although 100 players does seem a bit limited if there's a wide selection of missions to do and if there's population imbalance.
j,taurus
17/06/09 @ 19:17
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all u wil get is ppl teaming up together and it will be a shambles
GrandpaUlrira
17/06/09 @ 21:45
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It actually sounds a hell of lot like Crackdown to me, just with the AI gangs replaced by human opponents, and perhaps the jumping etc. toned down a bit.
wobbly_Bob
17/06/09 @ 23:51
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I can answer one of your questions: what what formats will it be on? Joystiq had an interview with the dev and when askes "this is pc only? The answer was yes.

Come on, eurogamer you seem to copy what little news you do post ( when it's not fanboy flame bait ) from orher sites such as joystiq the day after so I'm surprised you didn't know the answer to this question.
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muscleblade
18/06/09 @ 07:59
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Its PC only at this time. A 360 version might be out later (2011?). No talk of a PS3 version at all.
8bitMofo
18/06/09 @ 08:07
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No Wizards? Check!
No Dragons? Check!
No stupid fucking spells? Check!

Count me in.
smernicki
18/06/09 @ 09:17
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@8bit Mofo +1
stoopidgreg
18/06/09 @ 12:12
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they seem to be aiming at hardcore shooter fans, like counter-strike, call of duty, but APB is 3rd person and i can't help but think that will put off many PC gamers. if you're going to make a competitive online shooter for the PC, first person is king for most gamers.
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18/06/09 @ 12:20
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I too second 8BitMofo. The MMO concept is great, I'm just waiting (and waiting, and waiting and waiting and waiting) for something that's not fucking fantasy (EVE is a spreadsheet GUI, so it doesn't count). I like fantasy in books, where things make coherent sense, not in games, where it's basically used as a giant excuse for game design limitations. And I hate magic.

I also worry about the size of the city; if finding other players isn't going to take ages and there are only 1000 NPCs, the city must be pretty small...right? I expect worlds comparable in size, complexity and scale to WoW or EVE for MMO games.

EDIT: and Stoopidgreg, in fact. Third person is a distant second to first person when it comes to shooting things...as it were. At least make this an option, guys.
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Kaspar
18/06/09 @ 12:33
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The city's not that small. It's divided up into different themed districts - waterfront area, financial area etc. Each district will have 100 players and 1000 NPCs. Dave Jones confimed all this in a Game Informer interview that went up this week.
The Bodybuilder
18/06/09 @ 16:14
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>"No Wizards? Check!
No Dragons? Check!
No stupid fucking spells? Check!

Count me in.

Plus BLOODY one on that.
dadrester
19/06/09 @ 11:05
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The blue rectangle blob, as opposed to the green one.... or the mystery orange shape (PC)

Seriously I don't see it anywhere on the page. I see the PC icon and the 360 icon (though I'm not sure why that one's still there), but no sign on the PS3 one.
cairbre1977
17/08/09 @ 14:53
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I have high hopes for this game I liked crackdown alot but it could all go tits up too.

Figures crossed....................

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