Analysts: PS3 will win GTA battle

By Robert Purchese Published 25 April, 2008

Will sell twice as many Sony consoles.

Two of the games industry's leading clairvoyants expect Grand Theft Auto IV to shift more PS3 consoles than Xbox 360s.

Familiar faces Michael Pachter and Edward Williams both predicted Sony "wins" in a report on Reuters.

"Grand Theft Auto IV is expected to sell between 9 million and 12.5 million units in 2008. If sales come in at the high end of that range, the game will directly spur sales of 2 million additional PS3s in 2008, versus 1 million Xbox 360s," said Michael Pachter, gazing into his Wedbush Morgan-branded crystal ball.

"So many people who owned the PS2 went into the PlayStation family because of GTA. The release of GTA IV could expedite their decision to upgrade," added Edward Williams, whose palm is regularly crossed with silver by BMO Capital Markets.

However, software sales are expected to favour Microsoft, as it has both a higher-installed base for its console and downloadable content to coax purchases from those with multiple machines.

"Online is such a strong part of the game and Microsoft has done such a great job of developing the online community, so for people who own multiple consoles, they will buy it for the 360," said Billy Pidgeon, tea leaf reader for IDC.

Grand Theft Auto IV is due out on 29th April around the world. Time will tell.

Gang-bang your way to our Grand Theft Auto PS3 and 360 gamepages for all of our considerable coverage to date.

Review embargoes lift on Sunday night.

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About Robert Purchese

Bertie is Eurogamer's Senior Staff Writer. When he's not hunting down news stories he's often found playing with his kids or gabbling about fantasy games and strange online worlds.

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Comments (81) Latest comment 4 years ago

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  • Madafunkola #1 4 years ago

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  • bruuge #2 4 years ago

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    +1

  • symmetry #3 4 years ago

    Man these guys are brainy, I wish I was that intelligent.

  • AHiFi #4 4 years ago

    Analysts are smart...analysts are very imporTANT.

  • GamesProgrammer Verified Games Team Programmer, Eutechnyx Ltd. #5 4 years ago

    How do these guys get on in life, do they get paid if there predictions are right?
    Or can any cock just be a freelance analyst on the dole?

  • penhalion #6 4 years ago

    These guys are morons to the 9th degree.

    *Tap Tap Tap* helloooo anyone there! Of course more PS3s will be sold with GTA 4 as it's not offered as an official bundle for 360. Most of the 360 sales will go to existing xbox owners. What fraking win are you on about?! If it's based on number of copies sold, then 360 wins. If it's based on number of consoles sold with GTA then it's a no contest PS3 win.

  • louyfitz #7 4 years ago

    Here they come again to put the anal back in analyist

  • M83J01P97 #8 4 years ago

    Does it really matter?

  • shikz #9 4 years ago

    WHO THE HELL CARES WHICH CONSOLE IS BETTER THAN WHICH :(


    EVERYONE SHOULD JUST ENJOY & PLAY THE GAME AND NOT THE FRICKIN CONSOLES FFS

    HAVE FUN :) :) :)
    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 14:11

  • Marshall2008 #10 4 years ago

    More Troll fodder.

  • Britesparc Verified Creative, ITV #11 4 years ago

    @ louyfitz

    lol

  • anomagnus #12 4 years ago

    FLAME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Madafunkola #13 4 years ago

    I am an analyst and in my world we are expected to make predicted numbers tell a story, and to make that story a good one for our bosses. You can make the numbers do anything you like.
    Reading between the lines, if sales are around 12million - then it will spur more hardware sales, probably cos by the time we get to those figures every PS3 owner will have one THEREFORE more units will need to be bought.

  • penhalion #14 4 years ago

    @shiks

    Exactly.

    Seriously though. Who pays these anaylysts and why?

  • Buztafen #15 4 years ago

    GTA4 to sell more PS3's than XBOX's....

    In other news, analysts say being runover by a lorry could be 'detremental to health'...

    ...more as news surfaces...

  • Johnson #16 4 years ago

    Well, check out Michael Pachter's finest here:

    [link url=http://www.gamersquad.c om/category/All-News/Michael-Pachters-Most-Inaccurate-Predic tions/+%22Michael+Pachter,+and+-+despite+what+snotty+message +board&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
    ]http://ww w.gamersquad.com/category/All-N...[/link]

  • kissthestick #17 4 years ago

    yawn

  • systems #18 4 years ago

    This news just in: Bear defecates in woods!

  • Widge #19 4 years ago

    maybe all the 360 owners who want to play GTA HAVE a 360 already? so no need on shifting hardware there.

    anyway, its a good bit of stats analysis to fan the flames of the war, and it'll keep us all banging on about both consoles, doing a PR job on them for free.

  • Moz #20 4 years ago

    @shikz
    WHO THE HELL CARES WHICH CONSOLE IS BETTER THAN WHICH :(


    EVERYONE SHOULD JUST ENJOY & PLAY THE GAME AND NOT THE FRICKIN CONSOLES FFS

    HAVE FUN :) :) :)

    People should care to a degree, competition is good, this could be one of the best generations for gamers as it's looking like MS and Sony will come out on fairly even terms which will push them to do bigger better things next gen. If either side stops shouting then the other will win out right. Sony's market share last gen was way too big and as a result they felt they could get away with delays and an over priced console.

    Plus as long as you don't take it too seriously fanboy ranglings can be fun.

  • louyfitz #21 4 years ago

    I'd laugh if after all this the majority of people who bought GTA4 also bought a Wii, that would take the piss.

    Not that anyone would want to buy a Wii.

  • Cappy #22 4 years ago

    Perhaps, perhaps not.

    Either way Playstation owners definitely lose. They are denied part of the game content and they have to put up with a port of the game which won't make full use of the PS3 hardware.

  • louyfitz #23 4 years ago

    Yeah I agree with that, fanboys flaming each other is great, cos we can all flame them for being pathetic.

    I'd like to take this time to point out that I am not a fanboy for any console, well maybe N64 :)

    I just dont like the Wii, not as much a games console as a torture device.

  • CannonAnBall #24 4 years ago

    Anyone bored of all this sh*t? I know I am. Who cares. I have mates with a PS3 while I choose the 360. I think we're all happy to be playing GTAIV!

  • muscleblade #25 4 years ago

    This could be true. Most GTA fanboys are also Playstation fanboys probably. Still its their loss missing out on the best version for less money though.

  • superdelphinus #26 4 years ago

    It's like arguing which is better; doggy or missionary and which will sell more condoms. They're both sex

  • bdaggers #27 4 years ago

    BillyPidgeonLOL

  • Prodigy_BE #28 4 years ago

    @ muscleblade

    NOT TRUE: The PS3 version has a 2% better framerate

    Frankly, who gives a shit. It'll be the same game all over again. Pop-up, boring missions now and then, aiming problems... But with Next gen gfx.

    I just hope the hype didn't ruin it for me.

  • Bulbatron #29 4 years ago

    If review embargoes don't lift until Sunday night, then hopefully they will be better than that naff review in OXM, in that hopefully we will find out about ALL of the online modes.

    The last time I remember a game being reviewed before it was finished was when magazines were rushing to be the first to review Street Fighter II on the MegaDrive!

  • NickN4ck #30 4 years ago

    However, software sales are expected to favour Microsoft

    So how the fuck does PS3 win the GTA battle?, seriously stop being dumb.

  • muscleblade #31 4 years ago

    Prodigy_BE : The 360 version will be 50 percent bigger ( dlc) and with achievements ( they are more important than people give them credit for). And about the framerate lets wait and see shall we.
    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 15:00

  • mcmonkeyplc #32 4 years ago

    Probably is true: GTA= PS for the layman. MS aren't doing enough to change this.

  • Madlax #33 4 years ago

    No surprise in here, the 360 will do fine in its home-turf (America) but in europe, i doubt there are many europeans who are willing to buy a piece of hardware with questionable reliability just because it (Virtually) seems cheaper when in fact its more expensive with all the hidden costs.

    This good for the consumer, there is no need to support 'charging' for online gaming. i think many in here are underestimating the maturity and awareness of the average european gamer/customer.


  • Prodigy_BE #34 4 years ago

    @ Muscleblade:

    I was being sarcastic, you ape.
    Hence the "2%"

    Everybody knows people buy the game on the system they have the most mates on, just to kick butt in Multiplayer.
    I never finished San Andreas, so in my case the DLC isn't that interesting. I'll probably be playing Gears 2, Resistance 2 and a whole bunch of other games this holiday season.

  • DB2k #35 4 years ago

    isnt that because everyone already has a 360?

    also these review embagos are a bit silly when the game has been on torrent sites for a few days now.

  • Fab4 #36 4 years ago

    It must be depressing to have to choose which console to buy. It must be even more depressing to have to wave the flag for either of them. Who knew multi-national companies were so fragile that they actually needed the unwashed masses to declare their undying support for them? Will the zealous defending of the faith certify your place in gamer heaven?

  • zuljin #37 4 years ago

    @Prodigy_BE
    Aye. I don't think anyone is going to buy either a 360 or PS3 for this if they own the other console. Personally, I do love downloadable content, but having both consoles, I'm buying the version my friends buy.

    Not meant in a sheepish way, just that some of my friends go online much more than others.

  • stepneg #38 4 years ago

    @Madlax
    "This good for the consumer, there is no need to support 'charging' for online gaming. i think many in here are underestimating the maturity and awareness of the average european gamer/customer. "

    What are you on about, I would much rather pay for an online service that works as well as live does than have a free one thats tacked on as an after touch.
    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 15:19

  • phatb0y #39 4 years ago

    My dad is the heavyweight champion of the world!

  • Widge #40 4 years ago

    I've had no problems with my PS3 online service thanks!
    Warhawk runs as nice as playing a game using Steam... the only downpoint is it lacks Steam's auto-retry server function, but thats only a small niggle.

    I used to pay for last gen Live, but after moving onto PC since that before going PS3, I really like the freeness of it all.

    Its like a gym subscription, you kinda feel guilty and like you're flushing your cash away when not using it. For me anyway. Once I got my PC, I cancelled Live.
    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 15:23

  • septimus #41 4 years ago

    I own both yet I'm getting the PS3 version. It's just where it belongs.

  • aldo_14 #42 4 years ago

    Prodigy_BE : The 360 version will be 50 percent bigger ( dlc) and with achievements ( they are more important than people give them credit for). And about the framerate lets wait and see shall we.

    50% sounds a vast overestimation to me - I'd imagine you're basing it on the stated 10 hours of gameplay each, and thus a 40hr main game playthrough... but IMO at least half the normal persons playtime on GTA games is fannying about the city outside the storyline. Also, from what I remember pretty much every game or dlcs 'hours worth' is exaggerated - the Mass Effect dlc was quoted at 2 hours+ IIRC.

    Not that dlc isn't a factor, of course, but I do suspect that people are expecting a wee bit too much from it - stuff like a whole new city (for example) seems a bit ludicrous. It could just be a new multiplayer mode or something (doubt it, myself - seems too little for MS' investment - but I do think whatever they're adding can't be that big, otherwise releasing it on both formats would be more profitable than even $50m exclusivity payments). Personally, if I do buy one of the two consoles, I'll pick the one with the best GTA on it - they both have their own advantages IMO.

    In any case, you'd expect more PS3s to be sold for GTA than 360s; aside from the latter not doing so well lately, and the whole GTA=PS thing, I'd imagine more people have already bought their 360 in anticipation.
    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 15:26

  • Xerx3s #43 4 years ago

    "My dad is the heavyweight champion of the world!"

    Oh is that so? Well my dad is the heavyweight of the world! HA! Take that!

  • Roumpini #44 4 years ago

    So I had the PS2 and I bought it because of the GTA Vice City, and I kept it for the San Andreas.
    But then I bought X360, and no PS3, because of the games that I wanted to play, and one of them is GTA IV.
    So take your peak my friends.
    Cheers

  • mkreku #45 4 years ago

    Seriously, since the game has been out for several days on torrent sites, did anyone here have a chance to play it? And how is it? Does anyone know of any good consumer reviews yet? I want to know about framerate problems (yes, I am interested) and how the actual game controls and feels. How big does the city feel? Stuff like that!

  • stepneg #46 4 years ago

    @Widge
    "I've had no problems with my PS3 online service thanks! "
    "I used to pay for last gen Live, but after moving onto PC since that before going PS3, I really like the freeness of it all."

    Since I started on Xbox live and friends have all started joining up I stopped upgrading my PC. Each to their own but I couldn't do without Xbox live now, if PSN comes up to the same standard as live and continues to be free then fair play but it's some way off yet.

  • Rash' #47 4 years ago

    I'm surprised by these predictions. With price cuts and the obviously strong marketing push I see M$ making the most of the GTA opportunity. I don't understand how these guys came to these conclusions. Maybe they'll prove me wrong (heaven knows Sony needs it) but I don't realistically see any other scenerio atm.

  • Razzajazz #48 4 years ago

    @ mkreku

    I saw it round a mate's house yesterday. It does look very pretty, and there is clearly a lot more content, lots more things to do and see, but I was struck by how similar it seemed to GTAIII. I don't know why I was so surprised, I just guess I expected more of an evolutionary leap. But it's still fun as hell, and I guess that's all that matters!
    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 15:35

  • aldo_14 #49 4 years ago

    Seriously, since the game has been out for several days on torrent sites, did anyone here have a chance to play it? And how is it? Does anyone know of any good consumer reviews yet? I want to know about framerate problems (yes, I am interested) and how the actual game controls and feels. How big does the city feel? Stuff like that!

    Is the torrented version of the release code, though? It could be work-in-progress review code, or a QA leak, or something, couldn't it?

  • daz_john_smith #50 4 years ago

    I have to disagree with the analysts on this one. Price will definitely be a deciding factor for a lot people and experiencing GTA4 is cheaper on the 360, with the Arcade 360 retailing at £160. Fair enough there isn't an official XBox 360 GTA4 bundle, but that won't stop retailers creating their own. Then there's also the current Microsoft/XBox endorsed TV ad thats been running which advertises the £160 XBox 360 Arcade at the end of the ad and makes no mention of the game being available for PS3.

  • Widge #51 4 years ago

    @Razzajazz

    I can see what you mean, its like its gone back to GTA3 and next gen'd it, as opposed to going to San Andreas and next gen-ing it. Maybe we will see leaps in what they can do as they get better and better with the technology that we've got nowadays.

    I do hope we see something which is like the free roaming state of San Andreas again, I just loved belting about that.

  • Luvbeers #52 4 years ago

    more copies of GTA IV will sell for the 360 though.
    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 15:51

  • Rash' #53 4 years ago

    daz_john_smith, Are the stores doing their own bundles of the game with 360s though? It goes against my experience working at Game. Doing such a thing on a new release means losing alot of their profit margins which retail don't have any incentive to do. As a new release they know the game will sell and will want to make as much profit as they can.
    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 15:56

  • Machiavellian #54 4 years ago

    The problem with the Sony Bundle is that there isn't any incentive to purchase it unless you was already going to get the PS3 anyway. For people who are looking to play the next GTA game the price of entry for the 360 is pretty solid even with all the suppose hidden cost I am sure we will read from the fanboys.

    I believe first week or two sales in Europe will favor the PS3 but after that, the price difference the 360 will enjoy will start to pick up more steam. In the US, the customer base is so big for the 360 that it will spur more sales for the 360 then PS3 because most people will have friends who have a 360. People usually purchase the console their friends have especially if they play to play online which should keep the 360 comfortably above the PS3 sells wise.

  • Calgon #55 4 years ago

    If MS do some serious marketing they could sell just as many 360s as PS3s if not more off the back of GTA, £300+ or £160? If you beleive every PS2 owner will buy a PS3 too then you arent too bright only fanboys are that loyal, alot of that audience are more likely to go the way of Wii, thats just how it is.

    Yeah has anyone noticed some of the sources for pro-PS3 sales articles have been a bit questionable?($$cha-ching$$ perhaps?)

    I mean not bashing ASDA here but that could be like literally 4 games between them.
    Edited by 3 at 25/04/08 @ 16:07

  • Bumhug360 #56 4 years ago

    Well as Asda is the supermarket of choice of chavs and they are saying the PS3 version of GTA 4 is outselling the 360 3-1 that must surely mean the PS3 is the next gen console choice of chavs? I demand to know the sales percentage of Waitrose!

  • louyfitz #57 4 years ago

    [link url=http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/5387997/Xbox-360-Pre mium-Console-+-Grand-Theft-Auto-IV/Product.html?dpr=132836
    ]    http://ww w.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/538...[/link]

    Play.com already have an unofficial bundle.

    Looks ok.

    Oh yeah and amazon are giving you a tenner off GTA when you buy any 360.
    Edited by 3 at 25/04/08 @ 16:29

  • Rash' #58 4 years ago

    Machiavellian, Can I paraphrase your post? It seems to me this is a question of whether consumers solely want GTAIV or they want PS3 and GTAIV is the game that finally makes them jump of the fence. Personally, because of PS3's cost, I agree that most will be happy to stick solely with GTA, but these predictions have got me curious.
    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 16:24

  • dsmx #59 4 years ago

    If the DLC for the xbox 360 was as significant as a whole new city as I've seen in places hyping this DLC you would think that microsoft would be hyping it to high heaven, however there not which leads me to believe that it will be some extra missions but nothing that special.

  • Nitrous #60 4 years ago

    @ septimus: "I own both yet I'm getting the PS3 version. It's just where it belongs"

    Yea same here, I own both machines and will be getting the PS3 as well!
    Ok yea we will miss out on achievements (if you care about that, I don't really) + DLC but GTA has always been a Sony game for me....

  • kestral #61 4 years ago

    If they're analysts why are they predicting instead of analysing.
    Predictilysts.

  • Madlax #62 4 years ago

    I truly hope Microsoft fails in getting new customers with the GTA launch, the tactics they are used to attract gamers/customers is very childish and i personally find it offensive to the intelligence of the gamer/consumer.

    its like they are treating people like children "if you buy this game on our system you get super-duper DLC content !!! but we are not going to tell you what the amazing DLC is !!! but if you dont buy our system your not getting it !!! and its not free either !!!"

    such a miserable tactic, if the DLC was worth anything Microsoft would have preached us day and night on how great it is, the truth is the entire DLC thing is nothing more than an attempt to 'fool' the consumer (or so they think) into swaying gamers/customers to there camp.

    This will work in America, but not so much in Europe. i think europeans in general tend to investigate and research more about there purchase and think about the long-term.

    never-the-less, glad to see that early signs are showing there failure in europe, this is good for the gamer and the consumer, this will teach microsoft never to use the 'fake-hook' tactic and try to screw europeans or anyone for that matter.


  • stepneg #63 4 years ago

    @Madlax

    "this will teach microsoft never to use the 'fake-hook' tactic and try to screw europeans or anyone for that matter. "

    Yeah you would never catch Sony trying to screw over us euro's like that...

    I'm sure the fact that Asda have taken a couple of PS3 GTA4 preorders will really "teach" MS a lesson they will never forget, lol

    Edited by 1 at 25/04/08 @ 16:53

  • belziah #64 4 years ago

    I predict at least 5 copies of this game will be sold.

    7 tops.

    Now pay me.

  • Dizzy #65 4 years ago

    " this will teach microsoft never to use the 'fake-hook' tactic and try to screw europeans or anyone for that matter."

    Oh dear.... I surely hope you have no PS3 but a Wii.

  • old_skool #66 4 years ago

    We need analysts to tell us this?

    You know, earlier in the week I thought about writing an article about analysts and their role in the industry. I might just as well put whatever I had to say on this thread.

    When the press quotes an analyst, they usually take the summary of his analysis. Hidden from the regular reader's eyes are the facts, stats, figures and economic principles which was applied.

    Now I'm gonna tell you something even more shocking. These comments aren't intended for you, the gamer. Their target audience are CEO's, CIO's, Stockholders, Brokers and Investors. These people don't really care which version of GTA is the best, they don't have allegiances like petty fanboys. These money men will fret over buying or selling 100 000 000 shares and as such they need someone to give them direction. Some analysts can interpret the data differently from other analysts, that's why as an analyst you need a solid foundation in economics and an understanding of the market to make an informed analysis.

    Sites like Eurogamer really use the comments as fanboy fodder and nothing else.

  • Calgon #67 4 years ago

    Yeah the problem is many analysts dont understand the market, and your average gamer can see that... theyd be correct rather than way off more often than not, if they did know the market. Trends shift and change all the time there's very little garenteed, which is why most of them stick to the obvious, which anyone could have told those CEOs... but yeah we are all experts here arent we. :)

    I do agree it shouldnt concern us nor should pre-orders or good sales weeks/months for any particular console... its just sites like Eurgamer know fanboys are pretty darn petty and insecure when things are this close, naturally they grasp hold tight of anything that helps them beleive and then tell everyone they are right and the other side is wrong.
    Edited by 2 at 25/04/08 @ 19:02

  • smelly #68 4 years ago

    Well they're right about me!

    I'm going to buy the ps3/gta bundle!

    Sod the 360.. i'm embarrased to own one after reading some comments on here :-)

  • Calgon #69 4 years ago

    Smelly I know imagine people here saying MS arent evil or the 360 isnt shit/doomed/garenteed 3rd place yet... shamefull isnt it? ;)

  • zedzee #70 4 years ago

    Price will definitely be a deciding factor for most, if not all people, who don't have a nexgen console already. And that, by default, means buying a X360 with GTA-IV, not the PS3.

    If Microsoft were REALLY clever, they'd bundle the damn thing with their Premium console and/or Elite or do a special price on an Arcade with GTA-IV and an HDD; just a special bundle, don't have to have GTA plastered all over the box. I mean who the hell cares about that, anyway?

    Gimped PS3 in GTA-IV bundle? No thanks...

  • captainrentboy #71 4 years ago

    ''i think europeans in general tend to investigate and research more about there purchase and think about the long-term.''
    A big ole LOL at that corker.
    Having worked in retail for the last 5 years, I can quite safely tell you that most general consumers (not us internet savvy dorks), with regards to games and console purchases, will buy either the one with the pretiest packaging, the cheapest one, or the one with the most eye catching television advert.
    Which is why it always makes me laugh when some of you guys go on about how 'crippled' the 360 is compared to the PS3, suuure it might matter to you, but Mr Joe Public still really doesn't give a shit about Wifi, or the Blu Rays, those type of things still only really matter to the more hardcore out there.
    Infact funnily enough, I've noticed one thing does matter to a lot of potential PS3 purchasers, backwards compatibility. :/
    Sony really fucked up in that regard.

  • Penguinzoot #72 4 years ago

    @CaptainRentBoy
    Infact funnily enough, I've noticed one thing does matter to a lot of potential PS3 purchasers, backwards compatibility. :/

    Serious question, does it stop them buying the PS3 though, or maybe buy something else instead? I also believed that Sony dropped the ball by dropping BC. Although the increasing PS3 sales lately would suggest that potential buyers actually aren't as bothered about BC as I would have been. I bought my 60 GB PS3 last summer when software BC was still included, and I'm glad I bought it then. Just interested ;-)

  • captainrentboy #73 4 years ago

    A lot of folk who ask about whether or not the current PS3 model is backwards compatible end up walking off in a huff (Like it's somehow my fault) :), when they're told that it isn't.
    Now whether or not they go elsewhere and buy one, or just get it at a later date I don't know.
    It would seem a lot of them are aware of the fact that it USED to be with the 60GB model though.
    Which is why I'd say far, faaar more casual buyers are interested in full Backwards compatibility than they are bloody wifi or Blu Ray.
    Now obviously Blu Ray will EVENTUALLY be a huge deciding factor for people who are buying for a new console, but I still think that's a couple of years down the line yet, or basically when the movie discs themselves don't cost a piss taking amount of money.
    Edited by 1 at 26/04/08 @ 16:11

  • captainrentboy #74 4 years ago

    Swam, your words cut deep.
    I'm guessing what you're doing there, whilst getting worryingly defensive about the PS3, is taking a sly little dig at the fact I work in retail.
    Although, baring in mind you can barely string a comprehendable sentence together, I'm guessing that you're no neural surgeon yourself.
    Get a grip you sad bastard, the guy asked what folk generally think about the lack of PS3 BC, and I told him.
    Edit- And not to state the obvious or anything, but when most people buy a 99p hamburger, they're not usually that interested in finding out about the ins and outs of the fast food industry.
    When folk are about to shell out £300+ on electrical goods, they're usually a lil more talkative and interested in the product they're about to buy.
    Just pointing out the slight flaw in your argument there.
    Resist the temptation to reply, you're on ignore :)
    Edited by 1 at 26/04/08 @ 17:09

  • Penguinzoot #75 4 years ago

    @CRB - thanks for replying dude ;-). Oh and swam - you are being a provocative jerk. Settle down or you'll burst a blood vessel.

  • Amoebalove #76 4 years ago

    @swam

    wow you really are a bit of a cock! relax, take a deep breath and remember that video games are meant to be fun!

  • miiiguel #77 4 years ago

    swam, tip: keep your post shorter. And, you used to post the Amazon.uk bestsellers link, why don't you do it now? 360, for the 1st time since PS3 debut is beating it.

    Anyway, and I admit I kinda thought as you do, that price didn't matter, but the fact is that it does. It matters a lot.
    Edited by 1 at 26/04/08 @ 20:32

  • silke #78 4 years ago

    "Online is such a strong part of the game and Microsoft has done such a great job of developing the online community, so for people who own multiple consoles, they will buy it for the 360"

    Oh no, I for one definitely won't. The PS3 version is supposed to be slightly better, the machine is much more quiet, and then again I don't even have HDMI on my 360. I couldn't really care less about downloadable content thar appears in what, six, seven months?

  • bad09 #79 4 years ago

    Swam still insulting people with no PS3 I see, twat. come back Headbog all is forgiven.

  • Amon_Amarth #80 4 years ago

    Im neutral here but i think PS3 is gonna sell more

  • Amoebalove #81 4 years ago

    swam wrote:

    'Amoebalove:

    Why do you care what I think?

    Posting a comprehensive rebuttal to a clearly biased fanboy who spouts his opinion as fact is what these things are for, unless you mistook this for BBCs 'Have your say'.'


    What a strange response! Why do you post overly long, bloated comments if you don't want people to care about what you think? And be honest swam calling your nerdish fanboy rantings a 'comprehensive rebuttal' is a stretch by anyones imagination!

    And yes i do think this is a place to 'Have your say' which is why i'm about to hit the button that says 'Speak your brain...'

  • secombe #82 4 years ago

    Are these the same guys that predicted an early death for the Wii, or for the DS to be pulverised once the PSP got going?

    We need a new section on this site archiving the predictions and reality of the worlds leading video game analysts, it would be hilarious.