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Two of the games industry's leading clairvoyants expect Grand Theft Auto IV to shift more PS3 consoles than Xbox 360s.
Familiar faces Michael Pachter and Edward Williams both predicted Sony "wins" in a report on Reuters.
"Grand Theft Auto IV is expected to sell between 9 million and 12.5 million units in 2008. If sales come in at the high end of that range, the game will directly spur sales of 2 million additional PS3s in 2008, versus 1 million Xbox 360s," said Michael Pachter, gazing into his Wedbush Morgan-branded crystal ball.
"So many people who owned the PS2 went into the PlayStation family because of GTA. The release of GTA IV could expedite their decision to upgrade," added Edward Williams, whose palm is regularly crossed with silver by BMO Capital Markets.
However, software sales are expected to favour Microsoft, as it has both a higher-installed base for its console and downloadable content to coax purchases from those with multiple machines.
"Online is such a strong part of the game and Microsoft has done such a great job of developing the online community, so for people who own multiple consoles, they will buy it for the 360," said Billy Pidgeon, tea leaf reader for IDC.
Grand Theft Auto IV is due out on 29th April around the world. Time will tell.
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GamesProgrammer
25/04/08 @ 13:08
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How do these guys get on in life, do they get paid if there predictions are right?
Or can any cock just be a freelance analyst on the dole? |
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These guys are morons to the 9th degree.
*Tap Tap Tap* helloooo anyone there! Of course more PS3s will be sold with GTA 4 as it's not offered as an official bundle for 360. Most of the 360 sales will go to existing xbox owners. What fraking win are you on about?! If it's based on number of copies sold, then 360 wins. If it's based on number of consoles sold with GTA then it's a no contest PS3 win. |
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Madafunkola
25/04/08 @ 13:15
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I am an analyst and in my world we are expected to make predicted numbers tell a story, and to make that story a good one for our bosses. You can make the numbers do anything you like.
Reading between the lines, if sales are around 12million - then it will spur more hardware sales, probably cos by the time we get to those figures every PS3 owner will have one THEREFORE more units will need to be bought. |
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@shikz
WHO THE HELL CARES WHICH CONSOLE IS BETTER THAN WHICH :( EVERYONE SHOULD JUST ENJOY & PLAY THE GAME AND NOT THE FRICKIN CONSOLES FFS HAVE FUN :) :) :) People should care to a degree, competition is good, this could be one of the best generations for gamers as it's looking like MS and Sony will come out on fairly even terms which will push them to do bigger better things next gen. If either side stops shouting then the other will win out right. Sony's market share last gen was way too big and as a result they felt they could get away with delays and an over priced console. Plus as long as you don't take it too seriously fanboy ranglings can be fun. |
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CannonAnBall
25/04/08 @ 13:37
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Anyone bored of all this sh*t? I know I am. Who cares. I have mates with a PS3 while I choose the 360. I think we're all happy to be playing GTAIV!
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muscleblade
25/04/08 @ 13:43
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This could be true. Most GTA fanboys are also Playstation fanboys probably. Still its their loss missing out on the best version for less money though.
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superdelphinus
25/04/08 @ 13:45
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It's like arguing which is better; doggy or missionary and which will sell more condoms. They're both sex
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Prodigy_BE
25/04/08 @ 13:47
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@ muscleblade
NOT TRUE: The PS3 version has a 2% better framerate Frankly, who gives a shit. It'll be the same game all over again. Pop-up, boring missions now and then, aiming problems... But with Next gen gfx. I just hope the hype didn't ruin it for me. |
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If review embargoes don't lift until Sunday night, then hopefully they will be better than that naff review in OXM, in that hopefully we will find out about ALL of the online modes.
The last time I remember a game being reviewed before it was finished was when magazines were rushing to be the first to review Street Fighter II on the MegaDrive! |
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muscleblade
25/04/08 @ 13:59
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Prodigy_BE : The 360 version will be 50 percent bigger ( dlc) and with achievements ( they are more important than people give them credit for). And about the framerate lets wait and see shall we.
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mcmonkeyplc
25/04/08 @ 14:05
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Probably is true: GTA= PS for the layman. MS aren't doing enough to change this.
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No surprise in here, the 360 will do fine in its home-turf (America) but in europe, i doubt there are many europeans who are willing to buy a piece of hardware with questionable reliability just because it (Virtually) seems cheaper when in fact its more expensive with all the hidden costs.
This good for the consumer, there is no need to support 'charging' for online gaming. i think many in here are underestimating the maturity and awareness of the average european gamer/customer. |
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Prodigy_BE
25/04/08 @ 14:10
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@ Muscleblade:
I was being sarcastic, you ape. Hence the "2%" Everybody knows people buy the game on the system they have the most mates on, just to kick butt in Multiplayer. I never finished San Andreas, so in my case the DLC isn't that interesting. I'll probably be playing Gears 2, Resistance 2 and a whole bunch of other games this holiday season. |
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It must be depressing to have to choose which console to buy. It must be even more depressing to have to wave the flag for either of them. Who knew multi-national companies were so fragile that they actually needed the unwashed masses to declare their undying support for them? Will the zealous defending of the faith certify your place in gamer heaven?
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@Prodigy_BE
Aye. I don't think anyone is going to buy either a 360 or PS3 for this if they own the other console. Personally, I do love downloadable content, but having both consoles, I'm buying the version my friends buy. Not meant in a sheepish way, just that some of my friends go online much more than others. |
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@Madlax
"This good for the consumer, there is no need to support 'charging' for online gaming. i think many in here are underestimating the maturity and awareness of the average european gamer/customer. " What are you on about, I would much rather pay for an online service that works as well as live does than have a free one thats tacked on as an after touch.
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I've had no problems with my PS3 online service thanks!
Warhawk runs as nice as playing a game using Steam... the only downpoint is it lacks Steam's auto-retry server function, but thats only a small niggle. I used to pay for last gen Live, but after moving onto PC since that before going PS3, I really like the freeness of it all. Its like a gym subscription, you kinda feel guilty and like you're flushing your cash away when not using it. For me anyway. Once I got my PC, I cancelled Live.
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Prodigy_BE : The 360 version will be 50 percent bigger ( dlc) and with achievements ( they are more important than people give them credit for). And about the framerate lets wait and see shall we.
50% sounds a vast overestimation to me - I'd imagine you're basing it on the stated 10 hours of gameplay each, and thus a 40hr main game playthrough... but IMO at least half the normal persons playtime on GTA games is fannying about the city outside the storyline. Also, from what I remember pretty much every game or dlcs 'hours worth' is exaggerated - the Mass Effect dlc was quoted at 2 hours+ IIRC. Not that dlc isn't a factor, of course, but I do suspect that people are expecting a wee bit too much from it - stuff like a whole new city (for example) seems a bit ludicrous. It could just be a new multiplayer mode or something (doubt it, myself - seems too little for MS' investment - but I do think whatever they're adding can't be that big, otherwise releasing it on both formats would be more profitable than even $50m exclusivity payments). Personally, if I do buy one of the two consoles, I'll pick the one with the best GTA on it - they both have their own advantages IMO. In any case, you'd expect more PS3s to be sold for GTA than 360s; aside from the latter not doing so well lately, and the whole GTA=PS thing, I'd imagine more people have already bought their 360 in anticipation.
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Seriously, since the game has been out for several days on torrent sites, did anyone here have a chance to play it? And how is it? Does anyone know of any good consumer reviews yet? I want to know about framerate problems (yes, I am interested) and how the actual game controls and feels. How big does the city feel? Stuff like that!
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@Widge
"I've had no problems with my PS3 online service thanks! " "I used to pay for last gen Live, but after moving onto PC since that before going PS3, I really like the freeness of it all." Since I started on Xbox live and friends have all started joining up I stopped upgrading my PC. Each to their own but I couldn't do without Xbox live now, if PSN comes up to the same standard as live and continues to be free then fair play but it's some way off yet. |
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I'm surprised by these predictions. With price cuts and the obviously strong marketing push I see M$ making the most of the GTA opportunity. I don't understand how these guys came to these conclusions. Maybe they'll prove me wrong (heaven knows Sony needs it) but I don't realistically see any other scenerio atm.
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@ mkreku
I saw it round a mate's house yesterday. It does look very pretty, and there is clearly a lot more content, lots more things to do and see, but I was struck by how similar it seemed to GTAIII. I don't know why I was so surprised, I just guess I expected more of an evolutionary leap. But it's still fun as hell, and I guess that's all that matters!
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Seriously, since the game has been out for several days on torrent sites, did anyone here have a chance to play it? And how is it? Does anyone know of any good consumer reviews yet? I want to know about framerate problems (yes, I am interested) and how the actual game controls and feels. How big does the city feel? Stuff like that!
Is the torrented version of the release code, though? It could be work-in-progress review code, or a QA leak, or something, couldn't it? |
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daz_john_smith
25/04/08 @ 14:41
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I have to disagree with the analysts on this one. Price will definitely be a deciding factor for a lot people and experiencing GTA4 is cheaper on the 360, with the Arcade 360 retailing at £160. Fair enough there isn't an official XBox 360 GTA4 bundle, but that won't stop retailers creating their own. Then there's also the current Microsoft/XBox endorsed TV ad thats been running which advertises the £160 XBox 360 Arcade at the end of the ad and makes no mention of the game being available for PS3.
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