"About 90%" of Gran Turismo 5 is done

By Tom Bramwell Published 4 May, 2010

That sounds familiar.

Gran Turismo 5 still isn't finished. In fact, Polyphony Digital boss Kazunori Yamauchi has made it sound as though it's in the same state it was five months ago, if not longer.

"About 90 per cent of the game is done," Yamauchi told Inside Line (thanks VG247). "We are just working on the last 10 per cent and polishing up everything."

Which would be fair enough, except it's exactly what he said in January at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. And indeed roughly what he said in October.

Gran Turismo 5 currently has no release date. Sony announced a March 2010 for Japan at the Tokyo Game Show in September, only to delay it again in January. We've seen heard that it may not be out until autumn.

The game was originally announced at Sony's E3 2006 conference. Polyphony has released some content for PS3 in the meantime in the shapes of Gran Turismo HD Concept and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, but we still await the main event.

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  • LiveForever #1 2 years ago

    Still not 100% Wow slower than Blizzard.

  • M4RV #2 2 years ago

    This has turned into such a bad joke by now... I'd love to be in Yamauchi's shows to be honest; Wasting like 5 or 6 years of my life, doing nothing, other than driving around racing cars, instead of developing the following title in the series sounds awesome.

  • Emmit_Assassin #3 2 years ago

    ha ha ha hah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ahah hh aha whhahh hah ah ahah aaha hha ahahah hhahh hhhaaaa!!!!

  • Beano #4 2 years ago

    The repeated "90% finished" claim just shows that Yamauchi haven't been at the office for a long while - that also explains the slow development speed of GT5.

  • Vice.Destroyer #5 2 years ago

    Can you imagine how embarrassing it would be if this game was nowhere near as good as Forza 3? Or even Forza 2? A game that has taken more development time than both those games combined?

  • Stifler #6 2 years ago

    Right, f*ck them, I was dithering but the gall of these gimps and Sony have pushed me over the edge.

    I know it makes no difference and it will sell like sweets at a pedo convention but you just got another NO SALE from me.

  • BraveArse #7 2 years ago

    I really feel sorry for the bloke tbh. He obviously loves the series but seems so weighed down by it now. To the point of OCD I think. Ship it and move on to something new fella.

  • Bealsy #8 2 years ago

    I'm starting to think I've got more chance of having a sexy moment with Megan Fox than I have of playing this anytime this year.

  • Praetorianer #9 2 years ago

    I heard that there will be a redeem code to unlock the Duke as a playable character, but only for people who preorder the game!

    Maybe it will ship in a bundle with a Duke Nukem Forever demo?
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/10 @ 08:37

  • DoctorFouad #10 2 years ago

    so :

    - 1000 cars, cockpit view for every car
    - 20 locations, 70 layout tracks
    - every 70 track (normal + reverse) has night/day cycle + weather effects
    - damage on every car + more adavanced damage on premium cars
    - 3D
    - head tracking

    if thats true
    what they left for GT6 ?

    Edit :

    1) I am pretty sure that most people criticising and mocking GT5 today calling it the duke nukem forever of the ps3, will simply eat their words when GT5 get released this fall 2010.

    2) I believe it is in the nature of a lot of humans to be near sighted, GT1 took 5 years of development (1993-1997) and revolutionized the racing games genre, whats the problem if GT5 do the same thing again ? (6 years of development counting 2010) I prefer more development time and more revolutionary polished video game than a rushed video game...

    3) The aim of kazunori yamauchi is not to create a good racing game on ps3 (he already achieved that with GT5 prologue in 2008), the goal of yamauchi is simply to create the best driving video game in the market, if this takes him 6 years to achieve so be it !

    4) I would love to see those criticizing GT5 delay if they know any other driving game that has 1000 cars so meticulously created with cockpit view and the most realistic driving ever (with a good wheel) with the most realistically created tracks ever. if any other developer could create a better driving game than GT5 and in less than 6 years, well they show us their skills polease ! we are waiting !
    Edited by 2 at 04/05/10 @ 20:07

  • el_pollo_diablo #11 2 years ago

    Deplorable deliberation and delays. Daikatana?

  • Praetorianer #12 2 years ago

    @DoctorFouad

    More waiting time!

  • MiniAmin #13 2 years ago

    @DoctorFouad

    Decent AI?

  • bad09 #14 2 years ago

    90% complete but my interest in GT has died 100%.

  • muscleblade #15 2 years ago

    "Can you imagine how embarrassing it would be if this game was nowhere near as good as Forza 3? "

    I cant wait for this as i suspect it will be a lesser game than Forza 3.

  • M4RV #16 2 years ago

    ^ ^ ^ ^

    I suspect Forza 4 will be released before GT5, if not Forza 5 even...

  • GamesConnoisseur #17 2 years ago

    Gamers have limit to patience or willingness for hypes to be unchallenged. That is good but seem GT and Poly getting a bit more flaks as Remedy just as long with Alan Wake but with them we hear nothing but sweet words?!

    Or is it more to do with the fact Forza exists and on rival platform Turn 10 had been entertaining xbots twice in the period PS3 owners been told to wait for their turn?

    Sometimes the expectations can indeed be too high or game just polished too much but cannot disguises the limitations, however despite the fact I didn't really enjoy prologue, still feel that full version would be worth the wait.

    So let us allow the full game to be critically judged when finished and then we will know either way! Just a matter of so many more months....

  • Arwin #18 2 years ago

    It looks great, but I fear that their desire to include 3D support has come at a steep price. If they make this Christmas then I think the damage will be small enough and it will be a good killer-app to drive some initial 3D TV sales as well as bring the PS3 into more homes. But releasing it later than that will be damaging for sure.

  • Beano #19 2 years ago

    @DoctorFouad : Decent online modes?

  • Eraser #20 2 years ago

    History has proven time and time again that games with extreme delays often aren't that good (with the exception of Blizzard games then). So this doesn't spell anything positive for GT5.

  • the_dudefather #21 2 years ago

    @GamesConnoisseur

    'Gamers have limit to patience or willingness for hypes to be unchallenged. That is good but seem GT and Poly getting a bit more flaks as Remedy just as long with Alan Wake but with them we hear nothing but sweet words?! '

    What are gamers supposed to do? bitch and whine more? boycott the game when it comes out because it took too long to make?

    The cost for development for that long, as well as possible lost sales due to waning interest is probably incentive enough for them to want to make games more quickly
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/10 @ 09:09

  • Les #22 2 years ago

    "It looks great, but I fear that their desire to include 3D support has come at a steep price."

    Indeed. Such a heavy focus on 3D support is silly IMHO but Sony seems to be gambling its future on the concept.

  • Bennicus #23 2 years ago

    Don't these jokers know that the last 10% takes 90% of the time?

  • Quak #24 2 years ago

    "We've seen heard"

    ?

  • lambtron #25 2 years ago

    Just what I was going to say Bennicus.

  • Bealsy #26 2 years ago

    "It looks great but..."

    seems to be a common theme for GT5...

  • super_monty #27 2 years ago

    It's OK I have got Ridge Racer 7 which was more realistic than GT Prologue anyway.

  • 00.00.01 #28 2 years ago

    "The Real Waiting Simulator"

  • X3Entente #29 2 years ago

    the progression on gt5 seems to resemble radioactive half-life decay, will we ever see 100%?, or will it asymptotically remain at like 99%.9999

  • darkmorgado #30 2 years ago

    Surely this can now be safely classed as Vapourware?

  • carrotcake #31 2 years ago

    I was expecting them to announce at E3 that it will be available this July or August. If that isn't the case then yeah, what are they doing. Still think it will be a main event in the PS3 line up

  • duckncover #32 2 years ago

    If Microsoft supported my Logitech steering wheel, I would have given up on this and moved to Forza. Until Microsoft changes its policy in that regard, I shall wait patiently for this.

  • doulema #33 2 years ago

    @GamesConnoisseur

    "Forza exists and on rival platform Turn 10 had been entertaining xbots"

    That's where I stopped reading your post. If I owned just a 360 doesn't mean Id have to call you somethign as stupid as you call those that have just a 360 console and enjoy their games. Learn how to talk without making a complete morron out of yourself and learn how to be respectful to some millions of actual gamers, unlike yourself. No matter what your point was going to be I just prefer to make mine to you than finish reading yours, if any.

    I do wonder how people and fans of the GT IP might be feeling about this. I was never such a huge racing gamer. Yeah Im good at it and yeah I do buy whatever looks good from the genre as well I just cant get hyped about the genre. But I do know that GT has some of the most hardcore fans of the genre itself so even I can feel how fucked up it is for them. I did buy Forza 3 just cause overall there isnt anything as convincing out there atm but this I wont be buying since I didn't even play Forza more than a few times like I do with most of those games. That isn't a worth paying for developer even for my gaming gamma collection. :S Too bad cause I like getting the PS3 exclusives since it's its only use.. -.-

    I'll go play a bit Uncharted 2 while i start downloading Halo Reach Beta and they can shove the expensive Epilogue demo disk of 5, 5 itself andf GT 5 Epilogue up their ass. Will keep them busy for at least another decade ^.^

  • phycus #34 2 years ago

    5 years in dev and i bet the AI is still crap.

  • Vice.Destroyer #35 2 years ago

    @M4RV

    Let's be honest. We all know that GT5 will be a launch game for PS4.

  • Antaios #36 2 years ago

    GT5 has become a very bad joke and I must say I've lost almost all interest in buying the title by now. Yamauchi doesn't know what the hell he's doing (or not doing), it seems, and it's about time someone from Sony steps up to him and give him a bloody deadline. Finish it, move on, wait for the feedback and use that, and any unused ideas for GT5, in the next title.

    This really damages the series and if it takes any longer, or will disappoint in the end, I fear that damage will be unrepairable.
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/10 @ 10:39

  • jonsaan #37 2 years ago

    So it's not finished then. Do or do not, there is no try.

  • makariel #38 2 years ago

    Alan Wake and even Starcraft 2 are coming out this year, it's 2010 or never for GT :p

  • youhavenomail #39 2 years ago

    This dude is worse than Axl Rose.

  • mkreku #40 2 years ago

    Half of the posts in here start with "I've lost all interest..", yet here you are, commenting in a thread about the game. Duh.

  • LetsGo #41 2 years ago

    GT5 P handles better than forza so what makes you think GT5 will be worse?

  • drumbaby #42 2 years ago

    LOL @ people planning on boycotting this game because of the delay (which admittedly is crazy). When it releases you will all be its bitches. :0)

  • UncleLou #43 2 years ago

    Surely this can now be safely classed as Vapourware?

    Only if one had bugger all idea what "vapourware" meant.

  • geeza2020 #44 2 years ago

    - doulema

    I agree with your comments re: GamesConnoisseur, but do you not see the irony in calling someone a moron but spelling it "morron"? Oh dear...

  • Bruce_One #45 2 years ago

    The internal combustion engine will be a distant memory by the time this comes out. The world will look more like WipeOut HD (an awesome game, probably made in 10% of the time it's taken Polyphony already), and we'll all be cruisin around in antigravity machines powered by some, as yet unknown, sparkly new power source.

    Playing a racing game then will be like playing a horse & cart sim would be now. Polyphony will need to start all over again anyway to make this game work on our holographic home simulators.

  • Antaios #46 2 years ago

    mkreku: there's a difference between losing interest in buying a title and losing interest in talking about it.

  • ParanoidZombie #47 2 years ago

    IMO, What irritates people is that GT5 is a huge system seller: a lot of ps3 owners bought the console because they thought GT5 was on its way and would be released "soon" (2007,08,09, whatever). It's a bit like if 360 owners were still waiting for halo3, or wii owners were still waiting for Super Mario Galaxy or Twilight Princess.

    That's why the Alan Wake comparison is irrelevant- not a system seller, will sell 2M tops.

    And a lot of early adopters bought a PS3 for GT5 + FF13 - one of them went multiplat, the other one is a no-show. They have the right to be pissed and/or impatient.

  • Antaios #48 2 years ago

    CHNGX: I don't have a problem with waiting for a game, although this is really becoming a loooooong wait. It's the constant flow of "it's almost done" remarks while it clearly isn't as Yamauchi keeps adding stuff. And again, nothing wrong with adding stuff, but there's a point where you just have to draw a line a release already.

  • kingnothing12 #49 2 years ago

    Regardless of all these comments i'm betting atleast 90% of them who own a ps3 will purchase this title within it's first 6 months of release.

  • asphaltcowboy #50 2 years ago

    Laughable.

  • Seansy #51 2 years ago

    I don't want to admit it but I know that I will get a ps3 just for this game. I love forza, it's incredible. But GT has Always been a benchmark for quality. Gt4 looked better than forza 1, and the prologue had more polish visually than f2 and f3. It should be fun to drive but 3d and this head movement thing are gimmicks, I don't want to drive a bloody 2cv, so when they say 1000 cars I still think GAF!! Forza has a great community element and ability to specialise in particular areas of the scene. Gt doesn't seem that wide afaik.

  • darkmorgado #52 2 years ago

    Only if one had bugger all idea what "vapourware" meant.

    "Vaporware is a word used to describe products, usually computer hardware or software, not released on the date announced by their developer, or announced months or years before their release. It usually implies a negative opinion of a product, and uncertainty that it will eventually be released."

    Sounds like Vapourware to me...

  • UncleLou #53 2 years ago

    "and uncertainty that it will eventually be released."

    Sounds like Vapourware to me...

    I've quoted the relevant bit.

  • darkmorgado #54 2 years ago

    I've quoted the relevant bit.

    Oh come on, plenty of people have been wondering, on these forums and others, if it will ever actually be released. It's seen years and years of delays, very little detail has still been given on rather large aspects of the game (weather implementation, extent of the damage modelling, online details, the extent of its 3D support)... Sony saying that it will be out this year can't be taken for granted - Duke Nukem Forever, for example, was regularly said to be due on deadlines which it later missed.
    I find it worrying when a developer says a game is due out in the same year, but has yet to reveal major gameplay and mechanical details beyond bullet points on a press release.

  • UncleLou #55 2 years ago

    Oh come on, plenty of people have been wondering, on these forums and others, if it will ever actually be released.

    Well, people have also called Alan Wake "vapourware" for years. Just not a fan of the use of this word for things that blatantly aren't vapourware. No doubt it might get pushed to 2011, but uncertainty if it will be released at all? Please.
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/10 @ 11:23

  • solidSnake04 #56 2 years ago


    DoctorFouad
    so :
    - 1000 cars, cockpit view for every car
    - 20 locations, 70 layout tracks
    - every 70 track (normal + reverse) has night/day cycle + weather effects
    - damage on every car + more adavanced damage on premium cars
    - 3D
    - head tracking

    if thats true
    what they left for GT6 ?


    @Doctor
    rubber smell :p

  • darkmorgado #57 2 years ago

    I'm not a massive racing game fan myself (and the ones I do like are more games such as Burnout, Outrun, Wip3out, etc), but the ongoing saga of GT5's development has seen it become the butt of all the jokes that Duke Nukem Forever had aimed at it. The only difference is that the name doesn't lend itself quite so easily to puns.

  • Arwin #58 2 years ago

    Coming Soon GT5:prologue EX 2 Plus Alpha!

    to claw back a bit more cash....

    seriously though, if its just cars, release the thing already and offer the cars as free downloads later, you could even make a feature of it "car of the week"
    Yeah, I wish they had designed it to be modular or something from day one.

    it's interesting to note that GT5 Prologue may well have covered almost the full GT5 development budget already. GT5 apparently isn't as expensive as people think (something like 60 million euro) and GT5 Prologue sold 4,5 million copies to date, at an average of over 30 euro per copy.Obviously not all of that is pure profit, but obviously a significant portion is.

  • djed #59 2 years ago

    I don't like all the "it's nearly done" comments either. That's why I don't read Euroga.. oh snap!

  • Nuronv #60 2 years ago

    Gran Turismo : Forever

  • Beano #61 2 years ago

    Expect Sony to hype GT5 at their E3 event and announce the release date as a "surprise"... and hear a hugh "meh" from the audience :p

  • Les #62 2 years ago

    "Yeah, I wish they had designed it to be modular or something from day one."

    If my memory doesn't fail me, that's what they initially announced they would do. But after the public outrage over such a micro transaction scheme they dropped it...

  • GamerG #63 2 years ago

    it's no surprise there are always delay announcements shortly after Turn 10 ship ANOTHER Forza game, PD are always playing catch up but it's too hard to their monstrous operations around and pull all the work together imo

  • Beano #64 2 years ago

    @Les : Exactly

  • El-Dev #65 2 years ago

    Given the sales of GT5P at the time the PS3 had a much smaller install base than now I reckon GT5 will sell pretty well when it's released despite the dozens of people who are no longer interested due to the long development time.

  • chrisola #66 2 years ago

    this dog just ain't going to hunt.

    And it'll still have floaty cars whith magical non road marking tyres....unless the extra 10% is this guy powersliding exotic cars around in order to create a revolutionary tyre mark physics system.

  • Felwyn #67 2 years ago

    because tyre marks are what distinguish good games...geezuz

  • Beano #68 2 years ago

    @chrisola : If you want skidmarks, look in your underpants...

  • neonxaos #69 2 years ago

    GT 5orever will feature Duke Nukem riding shotgun at this rate!

  • secombe #70 2 years ago

    Frankly, at this point it would be an embarrassment if it wasn't significantly better in every imaginable way. I'm sure it will be a great game, but with all these delays, it better be.

    I agree, it will inevitably be compared to Forza 3, but in a way you would hope that would be like comparing a Toyota Aygo and a Morgan Aero 8. Sure, they both get you from A to B, but the Toyota is put together pretty quickly, whilst the Morgan is painstakingly hand-crafted for months.

    It has to be sensational in every single possible way, considering the development time and money poured into it. By rights, it should make Forza 3 seem like a previous gen arcade racer. 'Slightly' better just won't cut it.
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/10 @ 12:38

  • oreillymj #71 2 years ago

    Asked by Toyota to fix all the cars that understeer off the road and crash due to brake failure.

  • geeza2020 #72 2 years ago

    I've thought that GT games have been a bit poor since the third one. After that every other racing game out there had this idea that the AI racers should actually, ya know, race rather than just follow each other in a straight line around the track unless you ram one of them off the road. But hey its got pretty graphics and loadsa cars so who cares?

  • LargeDebt #73 2 years ago

    Can i say that I still hope that this game will blow me away? It surely must be as compulsive and detailed as Forza 3.

    Surely?

  • Crunchers #74 2 years ago

    PD/Yamauchi certainly do obsess on detail. Still, +5 years in development is really pushing it.

  • UncleLou #75 2 years ago

    It has to be sensational in every single possible way, considering the development time and money poured into it. By rights, it should make Forza 3 seem like a previous gen arcade racer. 'Slightly' better just won't cut it.

    For whom? The deluded idiots still partaking in the "console wars"? Why should anyone even care as long as it's a great game in its own right?
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/10 @ 13:12

  • Softie2k #76 2 years ago

    I won't be happy until Duke Nukem is the driver.

    Come get some!

  • ParanoidZombie #77 2 years ago

    uncleLou wrote:" For whom? The deluded idiots still partaking in the "console wars"? Why should anyone even care if it's a great game in its own right? "

    Because we are the generation of the bored. You can say what you want about war, but you have to admit that it's more entertaining than peace.

  • asphaltcowboy #78 2 years ago

    There is simply no way this will ever make back the money they must have spent developing it so I don't know why Sony aren't trying to get this out the door as soon as possible, regardless of the state it's in - Let's face it, the "state" it's in now is likely to be better than most of the games it shares marketspace with but instead, they continue to kowtow to the auteur and his "vision". Madness.

  • djed #79 2 years ago

    You can say what you want about war, but you have to admit that it's more entertaining than peace.

    No.

  • Darren #80 2 years ago

    Gran Turismo 5 was an exciting prospect when I bought my PS3 back in March 2007 but three years later with still no sign of the game and my interest in it is rapidly waning I'm afraid, especially as we've had two Forza Motorsport games since its announcement!!!

    I'm sure it'll be very good when (if?) it finally arrives but will it be good enough to justify the ridiculously long development time. Hmmmm... the jury's still out on that one but GT5 Prologue was a bit of a disappointment, what with all the slowdown and screen tearing. Hopefully both of those issues will be fixed for GT5 which has the potential to better Forza 3 in terms of content though. I like that it'll feature weather and day/night conditions, all sadly missing from the Xbox 360 Forza games, oh and more than eight cars on the track!!! Polyphony Digital are certainly ambitious, I'll give them that, not to mention perfectionists.

  • UncleLou #81 2 years ago

    the jury's still out on that one but GT5 Prologue was a bit of a disappointment, what with all the slowdown and screen tearing

    I've only bought a PS3 a few weeks ago and have hence played Prologue quite extensively over the past couple of weeks - I honestly can't say I've noticed any slowdown, except (rarely) in splitscreen mod when you kick up dust. Has the game been patched in the meantime, maybe?

  • Ryze #82 2 years ago

    Pololyphony Digital boss Kazunlolri Yaroflmaouchi
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/10 @ 14:15

  • BritishBlue1 #83 2 years ago

    God, just finish the damn game so I can buy it...get sick of reading about it, I just want to play it.

  • RobotRocker #84 2 years ago

    - 1000 cars, cockpit view for every car

    1000 cars is their goal but only the 200 "premium models" are getting the cockpit treatment

    Though I have a feeling at least 100 out of those 1000 cars promised are going to be Skyline/GT-R variants...

  • TheBoyChris #85 2 years ago

    Doesn't matter how long it takes, it only matters if it's any good. Why some people say things like "OMG this is taking too long I'm not going to buy it!" is beyond me... just buy it if it sounds like something you want to play? Don't confine your purchases by some weird set of constraints.

  • Spekingur #86 2 years ago

    Bruce_One: Sparkly power source? Twilight vampires then?

    Also, I am going to be more excited to see a Burnout rather than finally seeing GT5 released. I've just had a lot more fun with Burnout than I have had with Gran Turismo. My guess, new Burnout shown at E3.

  • FuzzyDuck #87 2 years ago

    I can imagine Nostradamus sitting at home musing over things- "the world will end in 2012! Don't have a clue when this is coming out though".

  • doulema #88 2 years ago

    @geeza2020

    Its not the end of the world so no need to go "oh dear" about a typo. Plus, Im Greek so I'm happy with as much English I know :)

  • Slipstream #89 2 years ago

    This game had better break records.

    Minus eh? Breaking Records a sin then? lol
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/10 @ 21:22

  • Les #90 2 years ago

    "I've just had a lot more fun with Burnout than I have had with Gran Turismo."

    For exciting, Burnout-style carnage, MotorStorm is great fun.

  • Miths #91 2 years ago

    No matter how pissed off we PS3 owners are about these ridiculous delays and talk about "losing interest", I suspect we'll probably all end up buying the game anyway when it's finally released somewhere around 2014.

    Well, at least the new V8 Supercar in iRacing is a blast. Though I do miss all those shiny, street legal European sports and supercars from the GTs and Forzas of the world.

  • Miths #92 2 years ago

    [How the hell did my post end up being shown twice? I wasn't even in the house the second time and I see no obvious signs of burglars]
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/10 @ 17:02

  • iamtheoneneo #93 2 years ago

    since when has forza had sterring assisted shit??? i think you need to stop watching those dodgy youtube videos that prove very little.

  • SpaceMonkey77 #94 2 years ago

    Its a cool enough game series, but this bs delay is killing it and hurting Sony more. Shame its now becoming a joke like Duke Nukem. Worst thing is that Sony have gone into silent mode on the game. And there's nothing wrong with positively saying what we feel on this issue.

    I'll laugh my head off at E3 2010, if Turn 10 turn up with Forza 4, and Polyphony with GT5 still.

  • aphexstwin #95 2 years ago

    why do so many people here talk about handling? whether its perceived as real or not or even if its better than forza or not is nonsense. im willing to bet most people here use a pad to play driving games, but whether its a pad or wheel, the only thing that remotely resembles real driving is real driving. games cant ever give us 'seat of the pants' feeling or g-force, feeling the back step out and balancing throttle with grip. so please, all naysayers of any games handling/driveability/realism, stop.

    but, what will edge out forza compared to gt is the oversights, and im a wheel racer so these things matter to me. bumps, forza is too smooth, sebring and nurburging are bumpy tracks, unless its on forza. and my favourite, no-hands speed. every oval has a no hands speed, a speed where the banking will steer the car. gt4 had this, the latest forza hasnt. like i said, oversights. but forza 3 is a good game, it just doesnt tickle my fancy, the made up circuits are too easy, the penalty system is stupid. doesnt stop me playing it though! gt5 will.

  • sfp_noodle #96 2 years ago

    The only thing certain about GT5 is that no matter when its released, 99% of people saying that they won't buy it will buy it.

  • Seabeast #97 2 years ago

    Cool, people will be able to play the most boring on racing games in say another 18 months then?

  • DoctorFouad #98 2 years ago

    1) I am pretty sure that most people criticising and mocking GT5 today calling it the duke nukem forever of the ps3, will simply eat their words when GT5 get released this fall 2010.

    2) I believe it is in the nature of a lot of humans to be near sighted, GT1 took 5 years of development (1993-1997) and revolutionized the racing games genre, whats the problem if GT5 do the same again ? (6 years of development counting 2010) I prefer more development time and more revolutionary polished video game than a rushed video game...

    3) The aim of kazunori yamauchi is not to create a good racing game on ps3 (he already achieved that with GT5 prologue in 2008), the goal of yamauchi is simply to create the best driving video game in the market, if this takes him 6 years to achieve so be it !

    4) I would love to see those criticizing GT5 delay if they know any other driving game that has 1000 cars so meticulously created with cockpit view and the most realistic driving ever (with a good wheel) with the most realistically created tracks ever. if any other developer could create a better driving game than GT5 and in less than 6 years, well they show us their skills polease ! we are waiting !

    Edited by 2 at 04/05/10 @ 20:05

  • milky_09 #99 2 years ago

    whats pretty poor from eurogamer is they only seem to post negative press/news regarding this game. theres been alot more news interviews, videos and screenshots available...but yet they get glossed over for the "exclusive news" oh gt5 is only 90% done.

    breaking news...gt5 wont have this feature... and yet they fail to mention the list of features (and you can guarantee based off of previous gt games that the feature set will be huge) and of which will likely take a great big shit all over most driving games this generation, yes forza 3 nice game i agree.... but come on its hardly gt in terms of quality and just general vibe and feel is it?

    i noticed that they still have not mentioned the inclusion of the top gear test track, which for most driving fans will be a pretty cool/ big deal. come on who wont want to thrash a reasonably priced car round that track?? thats a fucking awesome coup. and thats only pretty much recently been made official by pd.

    i fully expect negative points and i fully expect gt5 to get an 8 for the final review score whether its better than forza or not.

  • ljvasey #100 2 years ago

    @aphexstwin

    You clearly haven't played Forza 3. The Nurburgring is bumpy enough to throw you into the barriers in places, and Sebring is VERY rough, especially coming into turn 17.

    If you're trying to argue, at least use fact as its basis.

  • Murton #101 2 years ago

    A lot of people, EG writers included, seem to have forgotten that Alan Wake was announced a full year prior to GT5, so while the delays to GT5 are starting to take the piss it still has a whole year to go before it becomes the most delayed console game this gen. Perspective and balance there EG.

    On the subject of balanced reporting, since EG writers can pass off these "editorials" as news now, why not discuss some of the features that you can only see in GT5 and nowhere else rather than waiting for preview code to come round. It's not like there's a shortage of exclusive features to be excited about:

    A massive 1000+ car collection, very few games offer even triple figures, and those that do require numerous expensive DLCs to buff the numbers.
    70 track configurations spread over 20 locations, around double the figure offered by similar titles before DLC is taken into account.
    Top Gear test track, totally exclusive and a big deal for any petrolhead.
    Licensed WRC racing, currently an exclusive until the new WRC game comes out next year, especially with the weather and day/night cycle that were missing from Dirt 2.
    Licensed NASCAR racing, not as big a deal as WRC but still worthy of note.
    Headtracking, currently exclusive feature until the first Natal enabled Forza.
    3D, another exclusive feature.
    GT TV, a car/racing dedicated VOD channel built into the front end, also an exclusive feature.
    etc

    All of these exclusive features to mention in this "article" and all of them skipped in favour of saying, "game has taken nearly four years now, what's up with that?" A rather shameful, but successful gambit to spark a flamewar among the faithful and drive the hit counter. Well done Tom, the sponsors will be very proud.

  • aphexstwin #102 2 years ago

    @ljvasey if you bothered to check my post rather than looking to attack me, you'll notice that im a wheelie, and have played and own forza 3 with 705 gs out of it ta very much. and as a wheelie i can definitely say that both tracks, well, all of them to be fair, are like silk on forza 3, and 2. which is shocking because the bumps are more evident with a pad! even the slabbed apron surface of the pit straight at sebring is smooth. and thats what i was referring to in my first post. to me, gt4 onwards have been made to be played with a wheel AND a pad, forza does not, its almost an afterthought.
    Edited by 1 at 05/05/10 @ 01:07

  • BBIAJ #103 2 years ago

    @ milky_09/Murton:

    EG reported on the Top Gear test track years ago when it was first announced, along with the ability to stream episodes of the TV show in-game.

    Only just made official by Polyphony Digital my ass!

  • ljvasey #104 2 years ago

    @aphextwin

    If you have the game, you can't deny that Sebring turn 17 is rough and bumpy, and all the carousels and the bumps at Pflanzgarten at NR have been accurately reproduced.
    Edited by 1 at 05/05/10 @ 03:53