Well, well, well, a second podcast, what on earth is going on. I tell you what's going on: Gamescom! Day two is over, Bertie, Chris and Ian are knackered, and Martin's gone home. However, we're not too tired to have good chit-chat about what we saw today (Thursday 6th) and we saw quite a lot: the brilliant Oculus Touch, the brilliant XCOM 2 and the brilliant but maybe a little simple Star Wars: Battlefront spaceship fights. We also saw Ninja Theory's curious new game Hellblade, which Bertie was a bit underwhelmed by. And how about that man who sent his game in a briefcase to Gabe Newell? Join us as we debrief - hope you enjoy it.