Sony US boss Tretton downplays PS4 2012 announcement

By Robert Purchese Published 17 February, 2012

Uses that "hitting its stride" phrase for PS3 again.

It's sounding increasingly unlikely that Sony will announce PlayStation 4 this year.

Wise-cracking Sony US leader Jack Tretton told IGN that "I don't want to be thinking about trying to launch new technology any time soon", and said he'd be "very distracted" talking about next-gen hardware this year.

"In terms of when you talk about [the next generation] and when you announce it, it really depends on the health of the existing platform and the other things you have going on," tremoloed Tretton.

strider

Oh hello, it's another Strider.

"And right now, we're focused on PlayStation 3, and I've got another platform [Vita] to get out the door in seven days, so I don't want to be thinking about trying to launch new technology any time soon. I want to focus all our energy on our console business, which is really just hitting its stride, and Vita, which really deserves a dedicated push from us."

"I, quite frankly, would be very distracted if I had to be talking about next generation hardware this year."

"I want to focus all our energy on our console business, which is really just hitting its stride."

Jack Tretton, boss, PlayStation US

He's Tretton on egg shells, you could say, but not denying - outright - a 2012 announcement. E3 may be too close to Vita's launch, and too clogged with Nintendo's Wii U and Microsoft's rumoured Next Xbox announcement, but the Tokyo Game Show in September isn't. Perhaps.

Whatever happens, it's great to hear that Sony's console business is "really just hitting its stride". We've not heard Tretton say that since July 2008 and February 2010.

Sony's still announcing big new exclusives for PS3, like Naughty Dog's The Last of Us.

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  • grayn #1 3 months ago

    "He's Tretton on egg shells, you could say"

    Fucking hell.

  • PixelPirate #2 3 months ago

    I think possibly an announcement next year, then see the console the year after that etc.

    Nintendo have shown not releasing at the same time as your competitors can still work well, given the money sony needs to claw back at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised for them to stick with the PS3 for a year or 2 more.

  • Dizzy #3 3 months ago

    Has the next gen actually started yet? Sony hasn't said anything.

  • PinktotheLast #4 3 months ago

    I've bought the PS1, PS2 and PS3, but even I will think long and hard about buying a PS4, assuming one even appears. Sony are struggling to adjust to a tech industry where ecosystem matters as much or even more than build quality. Their phone, tablet, TV and PlayStation strategies are all to some extent hampered by their inability to design good software and implement and support various features, not to mention an inability to link these together into a coherent whole.

    No wonder Jack sounds a bit stressed.

  • NotSoSlim #5 3 months ago

    TGS announcement and show it off E3 2013. MS get another headstart tho

  • el_pollo_diablo #6 3 months ago

    Tretton water, more like.

  • EMarkM #7 3 months ago

    I've resisted for this long, but I honestly think my next investment might be a gaming PC. I've had both Xboxes, all three playstations and the Wii. Hilariously, I bought my PS3 specifically to play Skyrim (...) and now I'm wondering if I have finally learned my lesson.

  • monty_79 #8 3 months ago

    @PinktotheLast Very good point.

    Hardware generally seems to be of a high standard for Sony, but they have always struggled with the software. FW updates which brick some PS3s, tortuous install times for games and software that spies on your computer then compromises its security..

    I'm not M$ biggest fan, but the software they have released for the Xbox has generally been of an excellent standard. It's just the hardware of the 360 that has let me down a couple of times.

  • slippysloppy #9 3 months ago

    Personally I don't believe Sony's losses are strictly to do with the PS3 but more to do with the hacking fiasco and even date back to their investment in blu-ray and their pyrrhic victory over HD-DVD.

  • repeater #10 3 months ago

    Whatever happens, it's great to hear that Sony's console business is "really just hitting its stride". We've not heard Tretton say that since July 2008 and February 2010.
    :lol: Robert Purchese, I present thee with mine hat!

  • TheApologist #11 3 months ago

    @EmarkM A gaming PC bought at the right time has been a brilliant investment for me. I was lucky, and bought in at the first set of graphics cards that comfortably ran the engines that gen of consoles used (Unreal3 in the main). So, for me, my Nvidia8800GTX did me for nearly five years. It was luck the first time - this time I'm going to try and time it.
    Edited by TheApologist at 17/02/12 @ 10:11

  • vizzini #12 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor

    The Xbox 10year project for Microsoft has closed out now, and failed to achieve the objective; to diversify their business like Playstation and be the number one platform holder.

    They've had to start a new project with Kinect to get shareholders to agree to pumping in more money, hence why Xbox is so Kinect centric today. If you take away the $500m spent on advertising 360 via Kinect last year, the 360 sales would have fallen off more than the PS3s as the sales graphs would have shown. Sony have been the number one platform holder for the last two generations, and are still on course to be no one this generation by the way the Wii sales have nose dived and moving to WiiU early.

  • anthonypappa #13 3 months ago

    i don't see any benefit in announcing it this year - even the 360.

    especially with two rockstar blockbusters to keep everyone busy, it's not like the consoles are on their last puffs of breath.

  • EMarkM #14 3 months ago

    @TheApologist Yep: I think it's getting time to jump the console ship! Thanks for the info too.

  • ilmaestro #15 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor but by the same token, the 360 has now seemingly run out of exclusives, and MS are p.much putting it to bed so they can move on with an actually fully working version of Kinect and their next console.

  • abigsmurf #16 3 months ago

    I'm not sure of the prospect of the PS4 being released before either FFXIII versus, Persona 5 or Kingdom Hearts 3 get released is amusing or depressing...

    Regardless, there is a real danger of too many consoles being released too close together. People only have so much money.

  • spazmo #17 3 months ago

    Ni no kuni in 2013
    Last Guardian in 2014

    Plenty of life left

  • handsonhips101 #18 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor

    You are the most angry internet warrior dude. I can agree with your arguments but you come across as an offensive douche.

  • trebellk #19 3 months ago

    @vizzini that's some real spin right there.

    They're making money, they're a business. I know you'd love their "ten year project" to end. But it won't The market has a third player now and it's good for all but anyone silly enough to want to be overcharged due to no competition. In fact they have exactly what they wanted now, a popular multi purpose entertainment box under the telly to ensure that, if the PC was to lose share in that space, they had a slice of what replaces it.

    oh and in what world world is selling 40 million less than wii doing better and making a company the number 1? rose tinted spinathon.

    Owning all has been great. I know it's not something everyone can afford but it is great if you can.
    Edited by trebellk at 17/02/12 @ 10:37

  • handsonhips101 #20 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor

    Tell a lie. I don't agree. define fail? obvious troll.

  • anthonypappa #21 3 months ago

    if you only have one console, you miss out on some great exclusives, but if you only have a PC, you miss out on ALL of them.

    i don't think being able to run games at a higher frame rate compensates for that. and sometimes the PC misses out on great games altogether. e.g. red dead. and it doesn't really have it's own exclusives any more.

    i know some people wont want to hear that. but it's true.

  • Bitkari #22 3 months ago

    And right now, we're focused on PlayStation 3, and I've got another platform to get out the door in seven days, so I don't want to be thinking about trying to launch new tech blah blah blah blah
    Translation: PS4 Announcement Imminent

  • UnblestCarpet #23 3 months ago

    Post deleted at 16:58:39 17-02-2012

  • arcam #24 3 months ago

    if you only have one console, you miss out on some great exclusives, but if you only have a PC, you miss out on ALL of them.

    That makes no sense.

  • patch #25 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor I don't think any console has ever been made with the intention of making a profit. Most aim to make money on licensing etc. In Sony's case, they also want PS3 to drive blu-ray sales (more licensing), PSN (sales of games, films etc), televisions, surround sound etc. etc. etc.

    As to why Sony (the whole company) are losing money, it's more due to poor TV sales (see also Panasonic and Sanyo) and one-off losses from the Ericsson & Samsung deals.

  • seeafish #26 3 months ago

    OPM and PSM3 constantly say that they have it on good authority that some kind of announcement will be made this year, most likely at TGS. All speculation though I guess.
    PS3 has hit its stride, and I for one am currently loving the seemingly never ending string of quality games (exclusives and multi-plats). I don't NEED a PS4 right now, but as a company, Sony run the risk of being last... again.

    Ahh well, who cares, I'm getting too old for this shit anyway.

  • SEVQA #27 3 months ago

    If the PS4 or a 'sku' is fully compatible with PS3 software then no reason why it could not live side by side with the PS3. IMO a sooner the better approach to making announcements would be beneficial to Sony, though suspect they may be waiting to see MS's hand prior to anything.

  • weedar #28 3 months ago

    I am completing FFXIII as a preparation for FFXIII-2, and I have to say that the graphics of this game are stunningly beautiful. I have a brand new gaming rig (bought because I had to upgrade my computer anyway, so it might as well play games), but I have to say that I can easily live with PS3 and 360-graphics for a few more years.

  • MENTAL1ST Verified Senior Software Engineer, Picsel UK Ltd. #29 3 months ago

    if you only have one console, you miss out on some great exclusives, but if you only have a PC, you miss out on ALL of them.
    I was going to start listing the PC exclusive titles to counter your argument, but statistically I might as well start and end with:

    World of Warcraft

  • ZizouFC #30 3 months ago

    "It's sounding increasingly unlikely that Sony will announced PlayStation 4 this year. "

  • vizzini #31 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor

    You keep talking about tin-foil hats as though that type of FUD substitutes for reasoned argument and substantiation with facts, which is fine by me if you don't care about convincing people you are correct; you are just not being very pragmatic with the information available.

    The Wii has done exceptionally well to survive as long as it has, but has largely saturated its potential market and has remained weak compared to 360/PS3 for 3rd party publisher software sales.

    It might be the first Nintendo console to break 100m sales(as the yardstick that Playstation set), and it is conceivable that Playstation 3 might not reach the Playstation 2 numbers(~135m) before it sales dive like the Wiis.

    However, the current price point of the ps3 hardware and forward looking price cuts, publisher enthusiasm for the platform, and publisher's acknowledgement of abandoning PS2 software too early, all indicate that PS3 has at least 4years left with consumers beyond the dedicated games consumers reading EG, which should equate to 45m-60M units sold.

  • weedar #32 3 months ago

    @seeafish And yet Wii was last, and won... There is more to winning the console war than being first out the door...

  • anthonypappa #33 3 months ago

    @MENTAL1ST statistically, you could say call of duty is one the greatest games ever...

    and i don't know a single person who ever bought a PC for they MMO subscription games. graphics aren't the point of them. and graphics (and performance) are the point of a gaming PC.

    realistically, aside from these quintessentially PC games (MMO's) you have no list of PC exclusives to counter my argument. hence why you didn't give one.

    i haven't heard a single call out in the console community for world of warcraft. i have however, heard plenty for red dead on PC.
    Edited by anthonypappa at 17/02/12 @ 10:58

  • des #34 3 months ago

    Confirmed then.
    He was saying the same shit about PSP and few months later...boom Vita
    Hopefully this time Sony releases a decent console.

  • AnthonyDaniels #35 3 months ago

    Sony make the most delightful, varied and polished games, I will welcome the eventual PS4. you can keep your ghastly low brow Halo, CoD, Kinect shovelware and Gears of Warm Milk

  • Bertie Verified Senior Staff Writer, Eurogamer.net #36 3 months ago

    @ZizouFC EEK! Fixing - sorry

  • anthonypappa #37 3 months ago

    i'll be more than pleased to listen to your list of PC exclusives that console players are missing out on though...

  • Doubtfire #38 3 months ago

    "It's sounding increasingly unlikely that Sony will announced PlayStation 4 this year".

    Thank god for that. I am plenty happen with what we have now. There are quite a few good PSN or XBLA games and a good selection of retail games due this year. Not to mention loads from last year I haven't been able to get yet.

    Plus I wouldn't like to be in any of the console owners shoes trying to launch an expensive new bit of kit on to the market with the economy as it is. Even when they do arrive I won't be biting until a year and a half post launch to see how they all pan out and not get ripped as an early adopter.

  • richardiox #39 3 months ago

    @anthonypappa

    Stalker Series
    The Witcher
    Civ 3/4/5
    Company of Heroes
    Silent Hunter 3
    Total War Series
    Battlefield 2
    Terraria
    Amnesia
    Dear Esther
    Sins of a Solar Empire

    All highly rated PC exclusives, just off the top of my head that aren't MMOs.

    Between your hilarious "PC has no exclusives" comments and Vizzini's usual spin "If Microsoft hadn't spent money advertising the 360 their sales would have fallen off" (Like Sony don't advertise the PS3 or like they didn't release Move!) this thread is a real fanboy case study.

    Also, I know it's bad to feed the trolls but Vizzini's argument that PS3 still has 40million sales left due to forthcoming price cuts also applies to the 360 which has yet to hit that under £100 sales driver.
    Edited by richardiox at 17/02/12 @ 11:18

  • arcam #40 3 months ago

    @anthonypappa A list of exclusives isn't going to win any arguments. But if you're genuinely interested, some of the unreleased games I'm most looking forward to this year are Diablo 3, Dota 2, Starcraft 2, Mechwarrior Online, Guild Wars 2, ArmA 3 and Torchlight 2. Tribes Ascend and Planetside 2 are also on my radar.

    I honestly couldn't think of anywhere near that amount of games on the Xbox that I'd be interested in. PS3 at least does have some interesting stuff that I'd like to have closer look at.
    Edited by arcam at 17/02/12 @ 11:22

  • roz123 #41 3 months ago

    Is someone saying PC has no exclusives? Its got whole fucking genres that are exclusive.

  • Unstable_ISOtope #42 3 months ago

    Guys, calm down. I just bought a PS3 last September after the price cut, so this is what I have to say about your arguments over which console had a better financial plan/outcome. First hear this; I really dislike the x360, it's games are allright but the PS3 seems to have way better exclusives to me, Sony seem to say less b/s and the low cost of the SKU's are negated when you pay for XBL. However, the x360 has undoubtedly won over the PS3 this generation and even if there is still some time left I find it hard for the PS3 to regain a lot of it's userbase. I say regain because a ton, nay, a crapton of PS2 gamers bought a 360 instead of PS3 this gen, and only a 360. That's because the 360 didn't have an utterly retarded launch price (even worse in the UK, but bad everywhere). It still seems to do the job. the 360 is the PS2 of this generation, the PS3 is like.. the Gamecube maybe?! of this generation. MS actually made a profit on their system. The PS3 made Sony a loss for.. I don't know.. the first five years? Next time they need to keep R&D costs down, use stock components instead of designing their own (I'm looking at you, Cell Processor) and get a good balance between build quality and affordability. Maybe I should have bought an x360 ages ago, maybe not. But what I do know is that Sony has A LOT of thinking and work to do if they want the PS4 to be a success like the PS2 was and take back their old customers.

  • Elven_Star #43 3 months ago

    Downplay? Couple of Sony execs had already 'confirmed' there will be no PS4 announcement in E3 this year.

  • Unstable_ISOtope #44 3 months ago

    Tl;dr version of my post on how and why the X360 instantly stole half or more of the PS2 userbase:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw&feature=player_embedded

  • sonicyoda #45 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor trollin' trollin' trollin'; RAWHIDE

  • anthonypappa #46 3 months ago

    ok. the only PC exclusives i've heard of there, are like, old. not saying they are no good.

    anyway the PC has more niche titles, which is fine, but they are not the type of games i'd feel felt out by not owning. and usually aren't the type of games which require big power. (arma 3 being the only exception for me here) now that the consoles have caught up with PC's, we won't see the old days of big PC exclusives. half-life 3 for example. it may be the best platform to experience it on, but no way will it be PC exclusive.

    my point is, for a serious gamer who follows the scene day to day, a PC as your sole platform would be a little too sparse. for me anyway - and i only own a ps3. i also own a capable PC, but i downgraded the GPU to a passive card because of its horrendous noise, i don't use it for gaming any more.
    Edited by anthonypappa at 17/02/12 @ 11:58

  • gruntboy #47 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor quoting back @AnthonyDaniels and responding to his words is amusing. I took his "air of superiority" as, simply, him just being Anthony Daniels.

    You do know who Anthony Daniels is, right? I suggest you internets him to learn how neatly you got baited and hooked sir. :)

  • coolbritannia #48 3 months ago

    @vizzini

    Edited by coolbritannia at 17/02/12 @ 12:19

  • gruntboy #49 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor "An objectively successful product is one that makes money for the company that created it, or one that is a loss leader as part of a long term goal of making money. The PS3 is neither of those things."

    Assuming the PS3 is running on the loss-leading model (that's been Sony's game plan with their previous consoles, so safe bet I guess), what evidence do you have that the PS3 is not meeting that goal? Or perhaps more importantly, WILL not. What's the yardstick for determining if it has failed or succeeded, considering it's still on the market, still selling well, still seeing a lot games developed for it?

    "You can also measure success by raw sales figures, although that's pretty meaningless if you're not making any money and the PS3 has been outsold by the 360 and Wii."

    Outsold, yes, but still selling. And I would hardly call 55m (or whatever they're up to) and 5m or so short of the 360 a failure. I believe, too, that, as of now, PS3 IS being sold at a profit. Admittedly that wasn't the case for quite some time, but still.

    It seems you've decided to draw a line in the sand today and state "it's a failure". I don't think you have the data or the crystal ball to qualify your opinion.

  • arcam #50 3 months ago

    my point is, for a serious gamer who follows the scene day to day, a PC as your sole platform would be a little too sparse. for me anyway - and i only own a ps3.

    That's fair enough, but you have to realise that a PC owner might feel the same way about a PS3 or Xbox. If I only had a PS3 I would feel I was missing out, if you only had a PC you would feel you were missing out. Just accept that everybody's tastes aren't the same.

    Just because you've never heard of Diablo, Company of Heroes or Tribes doesn't mean they're not some poeple's favourite games.

  • sfp_noodle #51 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor

    Oh look its djclownshoes/lollage again. Wonder what alias you'll use next eh? Seriously, your repetitive ranting isn't fooling anyone. You say the same shit every time you get banned and open a new account. MS must love having a freebie tool like you doing their work for them.

    On the article, it is a bit embarrassing for Sony to continuously use the "hitting its stride" line over and over again. Its 5 years into its life cycle, how long do Sony need for it to "hit its stride?" Sony lost shit loads of money on the PS3, they've just released a new handheld and that too is struggling so I can't see Sony either announcing or releasing a new console for at least 2 years yet.

    This year's E3 will be Vita focussed for Sony, MS will most likely announce a new console for release next year, and Nintendo will hopefully show off some real WiiU games as well as the final specs. I skipped the Wii after owning both an N64 and GameCube, so hopefully the WiiU will draw me back into Nintendo consoles.
    Edited by sfp_noodle at 17/02/12 @ 12:17

  • Widge #52 3 months ago

    @Eurocensor "Call of Duty is an example of a successful product. It doesn't mean that you have to like it, in just the same way that because the PS3 is a failure as a product, it doesn't mean you can't think it's great."

    I just wanted to pluck that out, thought it was a great comment. Even thought the red numbers are flowing on that.

  • anthonypappa #53 3 months ago

    just saying, if it was even just 5 years ago, red dead would have appeared on PC. its non existence on the platform is a worrying issue, and hopefully for PC enthusiasts, not a trending one.

  • TheEarlOfZinger #54 3 months ago

    Good. 'Cos mine just blew up. I had to buy a new one.

  • nuao #55 3 months ago

    Everyone can say all they want about how successful or unsuccessful the PS3 has been, but until the global economy has recovered fully in its biggest markets (EU and NA) there will be underwhelming demand for any next generation console. Therefore Sony will most probably wait until 2014 when demand will have likely recovered and the all important yen exchange rate will allow Sony to negate its losses with a PS4 that'll appeal to the widest audience i.e. new emerging markets, casual gamers.

  • coolbritannia #56 3 months ago

    I was going to pointlessly argue over which console is better, then I realised I have a brand new orange amp to play with. So...

  • Anciegher #57 3 months ago

    E3 2013 then

  • JumpinJackFlash #58 3 months ago

    I won't be buying a console again from Sony/MS or Nintendo. Apart from a few exclusives, why even bother buying a console when the PC can give the best of everything.

    This:

    http://www.gamesradar.com/why-next-generation-consoles-might-be-nothing-but-a-reason-to-switch-to-PC-gaming/

    This:

    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/01/04/an-exciting-list-of-pc-games-for-2012/

    and this:

    http://www.pcgamer.com/previews/the-best-pc-games-of-2012/

  • ubergine #59 3 months ago

    I dunno. I'm feeling more now that consoles are going to have a crisis or a huge reinvention. There's going to be a major swing back to PC, especially if some smart manufacturer makes a standardised unit that will feature some benefits of console but the general freedoms of PC. Microsoft recently tried to transform their product from a games machine to a media rental service and I suddenly find myself with a product that isn't what I sought to buy.

    I doubt the next Sony console will be called Playstation 4. Sony want to rebrand and unify themselves as "Sony" not as a multitude of disparate divisions. And Playstation just sounds long in the tooth, like Gameboy.

  • NotSoSlim #60 3 months ago

    @ubergine

    Agree on rebrand. Time for fresh start at Sony tbh

  • Widge #61 3 months ago

    @JumpinJackFlash Thats why I have the PS3/PC combo. Between that, you can get pretty much everything you could ever want to play.

  • Miths #62 3 months ago

    While I've been sticking to my PS3 (and increasingly lately, my PC) since my first and only 360 died a few years ago (and it hadn't actually been used much at all the year before that), I remain platform agnostic enough to plan on buying the first next gen console with compelling hardware specs (ie. a major upgrade from the current gen consoles) to hit the market. I don't care if it's from Sony or MS.

    If I eventually buy the other one it probably won't be until much later.

  • Dizzy #63 3 months ago

    The SDF seems to be hitting their stride as well in here.

  • DoctorFraud #64 3 months ago

    There will not be a PS4.

    Sony failed too hard, lost too much money with PS3. It was their last home console.

  • BritishBlue1 #65 3 months ago

    @Dizzy
    That arguement can swing both ways.

  • laMbr3tta #66 3 months ago

    @britblue 1

    not really tho as its okay and cool to attack ms but god forbid if you do the same to sony on here as the sdf soon come trolling out, if only we could get sony to make the next console and microsoft to do the software and online stuff,and yes i have had both consoles!

  • NotSoSlim #67 3 months ago

    <quote>DoctorFraud wrote:
    There will not be a PS4.

    Sony failed too hard, lost too much money with PS3. It was their last home console.</quote>

    Boring mate. Same shit every post.

    If financially viable they will release one and ditch other products before abandoning consoles.

  • riseer #68 3 months ago

    After all the rumors about Ms next system i think i will stay with Sony till the end.After all why do i want a controller with a screen on it.If i want that i will play my Vita or smartphone.I really hope next gen isn't all about touch screens and motion control.If so gaming will be dead to me,i will have to find another hobby.

  • riseer #69 3 months ago

    @DoctorFraud Their will be a Ps4 not sure why you think it will be the last.Why rush Ps4 when Ps3 is selling good.Sony and anyone with a brain knows the next gen consoles won't be the leap we saw this past gen.I use my Ps3 everyday and will keep doing so.

  • riseer #70 3 months ago

    @NotSoSlim Yea just seems to me he's a fanboy, that has nothing better to do then write about nothing.

  • Ryze #71 3 months ago

    To be honest... good.

    If they wait, and release a console version of the Vita hardware - beefed up to high heaven in 2014, then I'm fine with that.

  • Snake_2011 #72 3 months ago

    he is never going to tell you if it is.

  • trebellk #73 3 months ago

    "Sony seem to say less b/s "

    someone has an "ignore sony press" filter on his browser. They all talk shit all of the time.

    btw, it's sweet to see the same old legion are still at it all these years later.

    wonder if the "i should not be doing a massive companies marketing for them" penny will ever drop?
    Edited by trebellk at 17/02/12 @ 17:08

  • Snake_2011 #74 3 months ago

    DoctorFraud the company that owns loads of game studios is going to quit can you not see how stupid that sounds.

  • Prodigy_BE #75 3 months ago

    With 4 years of losses and a stock price that went from 36$ to 16$ in less than a year, Sony won't survive a PS4 launch. The can create the hardware, but have no cash to put it into production, nor to market it and have it gather momentum.

    I used to work at PlayStation Magazine, so I'm kind of a PS believer, but with Apple on the rise (thei business model is WAY better for devs), I see dark clouds ahead for Sony.

  • Unstable_ISOtope #76 3 months ago

    @trebellk I am well aware that Sony too chats a lot of crap, but they don't lie by trying to say their systems are good value for money and don't act in denial by purporting to be the kings of gaming.

    At least with Sony they're relatively more down to earth in terms of what they're selling you: an expensive and sometimes worthwhile investment.

    On the other hand at MS HQ: "We're proud to announce [INSERT GENERIC CRAP HERE] and hope it to be a staple present this holiday season. At £199 there's fun for the whole family".. "You wanna' buy XBL? Wait what you only play online a couple of hours every week? What is this crap? £40 PLZ for 1 person kthxbai.".

  • Unstable_ISOtope #77 3 months ago

    @Unstable_ISOtope TBH if it weren't for XBL I probably would have bought a 360 years ago.

  • trebellk #78 3 months ago

    @iso i just don't see it. they talk as much arse as each other.

    They push everything as bigger and better as much as the next company.

    Frankly the whole industry is bloody awful in the juvenile way it sells it's products.

    and the xbla thing? just bought my nephew one for 29 quid on Amazon. Shop around. Starts to look like the usual anti xbox rant.

    Oh, that's because it is. I thought it was debating with a multi format owner for a minute. Not to worry, back to the trench with you.
    Edited by trebellk at 17/02/12 @ 19:24

  • frazzl #79 3 months ago

    I dedicate this little song to the SDF (Vizzini, Riseer et al.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6PI09LcuHo

  • Unstable_ISOtope #80 3 months ago

    @trebellk What a mug. I'm not saying x360 is complete crap, and XBL is NOT the only reason I do not want a 360. But it's the tip of the iceberg. There are SO many reasons why I waited out for a PS3 but it's not like you would listen. £30 ontop of £150 is not value for money, especially since the PS3 is £180 anyway. So just for ONE user's XBL account you have just spent the equivalent of a PS3 on an Xbox360. If anyone else wants XBL, this becomes £60. And this is a yearly payment and assumes that your frequently play games online. For a lot of people that is a waste. Not everyone is rich you know, and those who aren't rich and buy consoles CAN'T afford it, they just tell themselves they can and live riskily like those crazy investment bankers all the time. Lol I bet you're one of those mugs who buys a crapton of gadgets for his family on Christmas even though he's poor and can't truly afford to do so. Even £180 is a lot of money to shell out, the industry just wants it to seem cheap as compared to the gargantuan launch prices.

    I like Sony better. I like the PSN community better. I like the look and feel of the PS3 better. The PS3 has many more media capabilites than an Xbox360. The PS3 is cheaper for the consumer in the long run (but admittedly still expensive, in sensible terms). The PS3 certainly has many more and higher quality exclusives than the Xbox360. The PS3 follows on from two immensely popular consoles with a plethora of great games, what does 360 follow up on.. Hay-Low1? Wow.. considering that game didn't even have online play on the xbox.. and considering Halo 2 is nothing compared to pc fps's of the time.. nice. And yet, for multiplats, the 360 IS a good console. I admit as much. But if It's going to cost me the same amount or more to keep a 360 than a PS3, why would I buy a 360 when I could get so much more than I want from a PS3? If this was 5 years ago and 360 was still relatively better for my money than a PS3.. fair enough. Right now? Not a chance.

  • Unstable_ISOtope #81 3 months ago

    @trebellk It's also sad how you and the neggers missed how I said in my first post how MS has won this generation and posted a 599 USD joke vid? I don't like the 360, but I know it got it's finances right.

  • ronuds #82 3 months ago

    I negged you because everything you're saying is pretty stupid.

  • Unstable_ISOtope #83 3 months ago

    @ronuds How so? CTRL+F, ever heard of it? Search for 'Unstable_ISOtope' and read all of my posts.
    If explaining why I like PS3 whilst detailing why I believe the 360 is winning over the PS3 is stupid, well then you must either hate people who consider more than one side of an argument or are an idiot (or alternatively/probably both).

    Is what I said about the PS3 and its merits wrong? No. Is what I said about the 360 and its merits wrong? No. Is what I said about cost and value for money and stupid people buying what they can't afford wrong? Absolutely not. So you really are and idiot, or you are an idiot who spends what he cant afford and are offended that I brought the subject up. What's wrong, did I remind you of your latest bank statement? Boo hoo.
    Edited by Unstable_ISOtope at 17/02/12 @ 21:51

  • Quak #84 3 months ago

    Has everyone forgotten about Sony's 10-year plan for the PS3 or something?

  • DRUNK3N-_-DRAGON #85 3 months ago

    good things come to those who wait!