More Wii U details before E3, Nintendo hints

By Tom Phillips Published 12 January, 2012

But a muted showing this week at CES.

Nintendo could reveal Wii U details before the expected show-all at E3 2012 in June, Nintendo of America boss Reggie Fils-Aime has hinted.

"We will be sharing information throughout the year," Fils-Aime told Spike TV at CES 2012 this week.

"So I won't say you'll have to wait until E3, but certainly we're not breaking new news here."

Nintendo has openly targeted E3 2012 - 5th-7th June - as a destination for new Wii U details.

The new console is physically present at CES this week, but only in its old "not final" form. The demos being shown are those we saw last year at E3, too.

Fils-Aime explained that Nintendo still wasn't ready to fill in the key blanks - namely a launch date, pricing and launch titles.

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  • GamesProgrammer Verified Games Team Programmer, Eutechnyx Ltd. #1 4 months ago

    With still so little information known about the Wii U, its hard to believe it will still launch in 2012

  • arcam #2 4 months ago

    The demo's being shown are those we saw last year at E3, too.

    Come on EG.

  • abigsmurf #3 4 months ago

    Does make me wonder if the console has had a massive re-working since they have literally shown nothing since E3

  • Darren #4 4 months ago

    I honestly think Nintendo will have a hard time selling the Wii U and doubt it'll sell in the numbers that the Wii has.

    Part of the problem, I think, is that the bulk of the existing Wii user-base are casual gamers, such as my own parents and relatives, who typically don't buy many games anyway and are happy with what they have (my parents own just three games I think and one came with the console). I cannot for example see my parents buying a Wii U as they'll see the name and assume it's just a more advanced version of what they have, like the 3DS is to the DS. Most of these casual gamers will probably not upgrade and because Nintendo pretty much turned their backs on the core gamers this generation they'll have a hard time convincing them to buy a Wii U as well.

    Time will tell.

    I like the look of the Wii U's controller but having had my fingers burnt with the Wii I'm intending to be very cautious next time round. I certainly won't be buying the machine at launch for example.
    Edited by Darren at 12/01/12 @ 13:03

  • Darren #5 4 months ago

    @GamesProgrammer - Why? A year is a very long time and there's no reason for Nintendo to unveil specifics until nearer the launch date, which could be as late as December.

  • kirinnokoshin #6 4 months ago

    @GamesProgrammer

    To be fair there was next to no info on the Wii in Jan 2006 (if my memory serves correctly). I'd be very surprised if it doesn't launch this year.

  • Mr_Brown #7 4 months ago

    I think it's unfair to say that Nintendo has turned it's back on core gamers. I think it's th other way around (though Nintendo has done it's part). The Wii has had and still has some extremely good core games. Skyward Sword, Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, Pandoras Tower etc. Though it's a shame that it has taken Nintendo until the last year of the Wii to start to move away from the motion shovelware.

    Personally I'm look forward to the Wii U. If any company can surprise us, then it's Nintendo.

  • arcam #8 4 months ago

    Besides there's actually a lot known about the Wii U.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #9 4 months ago

    @arcam Besides there's actually a lot known about the Wii U.

    That is true, although this information is quite old now and it has been very quiet since last year's E3. The only thing new is that it will very likely support more than one tablet.

  • Bradach #10 4 months ago

    If 100% is day one purchase, I'm at about 10% on the Wii U. My wii has gathered dust for 3 years now and I've no intention of making the same mistake twice

  • matty_matt_mattmatt #11 4 months ago

    blind man finds muted showing very peaceful

  • Sid-Nice #12 4 months ago

    I haven't got time to read the 119 comments; all I can say is "No news is good news."

  • jonno394 #13 4 months ago

    @GamesProgrammer

    Nintendo could pull an Apple and release their new product within a very short timeframe of its full unveil.

  • Badassbab #14 4 months ago

    Wii has lost it's cool factor. I remember when it was 'cool' to own a Wii. Wii U will definitely not reach the initial success of the Wii but maybe a bit of a slow burner PS3 style.

  • andijames #15 4 months ago

    AM i missing something here? Can only see about 15 comments and it says there are around 124? Meh. Probably just me.

  • makeamazing #16 4 months ago

    I like a lot of other people i think, will not be going out on day 1 to buy a wii u. I had never owned a nintendo console before, but was fascinated by the stuff i saw on the wii...but it turned out to be a bit of a lame duck (imho) in terms of what i wanted it to do, and what it actually did.

  • tankboi #17 4 months ago

    I am sorry Nintendo, but you have lost my interest completely.

    I was your number one fan once. What happened...

  • MattEdWithCheese #18 4 months ago

    Yeah! Like the confirmation that the system will not upscale Wii games, which will encourage people to just use dolphin instead... C'mon guys it's not that difficult to understand...

  • Eraysor #19 4 months ago

    I think Nintendo are in a huge amount of trouble right now. The 3DS looks like it will hang on for the time being, so that will bring in some cash (although I doubt it'll be as much as Nintendo were expecting).

    However, the WiiU has two fundamental problems. Firstly, the majority of the market for the Wii was new gamers, as other commenters have pointed out. These people aren't going to care much about the WiiU; it's not like the tablet controller is something you can carry out of the house with you like an iPad, and giving it that amount of functionality would be horribly expensive.

    Secondly, the console is going to at least match the current-gen systems. This is the second issue. As soon as Sony or Microsoft unveil a system with significantly more power, as they're expected to do with their new systems, the core gamer market is going to head straight for those and Nintendo will be stuck languishing a whole generation behind.

    The WiiU could also do with a much more friendly online system (ditch friend codes!) and more core games. I've only really enjoyed 4 Wii games, and I've had the console since launch. If you exclude Zelda and Mario, which I'm not a massive fan of anyway, I can only think of Monster Hunter 3, SSBB, Metroid Prime 3 and Xenoblade as being actually enjoyable. Three of those didn't even use the Wii's special features (and MH3's online play was actively hindered by them).

  • Retro_ #20 4 months ago

    Sorry, five years too late Ninty.

  • threemoh #21 4 months ago

    My bet: they'll do an Apple and sneak Wii U to stores the night of the E3 announcement.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #22 4 months ago

    @Eraysor People have been saying Nintendo is doomed ever since they released the N64. Yet again they are #1 in terms of console sales; Both home and portable consoles.

    Nintendo (and their hardware) are not perfect but the company knows what they are doing. It's just that too many gamers don't see the WiiU appealing to them and think that automatically means that Nintendo is in trouble. Which brings us back to sales again. Gaming has changed, like it or not. The Wii and the WiiU are not your typical consoles but they do have a place in today's world of gaming and are doing just fine; Not in all areas of course but overall there really is nothing to worry about.

  • anthonypappa #23 4 months ago

    do a version without that expensive, unnecessary tablet controller and i'll buy it.

    honest, no frills controls for nintendo first party games in HD would be worth it alone, and a nice stop gap until ps4 for me.

    with that tablet controller, no thanks unfortunately.

  • CheesecakeBobby #24 4 months ago

    Wow this really is huge front-page news guys, we might get some news before the date we were expecting to get some news, maybe.

  • Mr.Spo #25 4 months ago

    Nintendo sold 95 million Wii's and 150 million DS systems, despite the processing technology in those systems being years behind the cutting edge and their competition, and people STILL think that its processing technology that decides the sales potential of a games machine? 3DS is selling hundreds of thousands of units every week, and the basic graphics technology in that machine can be outdone by smart phones.

    The software will make or break Wii U--given Nintendo sold the vast majority of their Wii and DS systems on the strength of their own software, it would be foolish to write them off before the final form of the system and the first wave of titles have been announced. We don't even know exactly what features the system will have, or how extensive third party support will be. Having the head of EA wander on stage at Nintendo's E3 conference last year wasn't a token gesture; it was a serious message from Nintendo to third parties that Nintendo want them on board. Sorry for the rant, but the constant dismissal of games machines in their early form (the doom spewing around 3DS and Vita has been similarly misguided) really pisses me off. Not all hardware in the games industry is to my personal taste, but I'd rather all the manufacturers succeed so that competition is tougher, the games market grows and we reap the benefits. It's better than systems crashing and burning, companies folding and developers losing jobs, right?

    Ranting aside, I'm glad Nintendo are going to announce more Wii U details before E3. To those unfamiliar with the company, or those constantly spewing the same "Nintendo is doomed, must become third party", the silence on Wii U could be and probably will be mistaken for "Nintendo don't know what they're doing/Nintendo are preparing to release an under-powered, over-priced gimmick/Nintendo should develop for smartphones". I'd bet the time between last E3 and now (given it includes the period where 3DS sales sank ridiculously low before the system recovered and gained momentum) has seen Nintendo's strategy with Wii U evolve immensely in response to the 3DS's initial failings. I've said it before and I'll say it again: everything that went wrong with 3DS could be the best thing that's happened to Nintendo in recent years. Nintendo know they can't emphasise a feature of the hardware ahead of the software; as they did with 3D and 3DS, they can't repeat that with Wii U and its tablet pad (I understand the tablet pad was the emphasis of the E3 reveal, consider the mass-market confusion that created, and I consider that E3 showing as less of a sales pitch and more of a statement to the development community). They can't afford the same kind of brand confusion and indifference that the poor marketing campaign for 3DS did nothing to dispel; it has to be clear Wii U is a brand new machine and a significant improvement on the Wii. They can't launch without online features, as 3DS did without eShop. They can't over-price the Wii U--if consumers consider the machine as pricey, they will hang on for a 3DS style drop, harming early adoption of the machine. Nintendo need to seriously consider what third parties want in Wii U, in order to ensure a healthy, long-term software market--the lack of such a software market has clearly severely impacted the Wii's sales curve. And most importantly, they need to launch with strong software--small Nintendo titles like Pilotwings won't cut it for Wii U. If they pack it in with something like New Super Mario Bros Mii, that'd be a good start, but they need a big, first party game there on day one, supported by strong third party content. Sure, it helps to have multi-platform games, but Nintendo need exclusive, compelling software from the start, and that's perhaps the biggest challenge the Wii U faces. I don't doubt the ability of Nintendo's internal teams, but I do doubt if any third party will create a Wii U launch title that could genuinely be considered as new, compelling and exclusive content that can rival Nintendo's offering. Every other factor is within Nintendo's grasp: they just need to really work hard at their relationship with third parties, because even if Nintendo software sells the system at first, it won't keep the system going indefinitely.
    Edited by Mr.Spo at 12/01/12 @ 14:18

  • Timotei #26 4 months ago

    Longest comment ever.

  • sega #27 4 months ago

    I love the Wii but a bit unsure about the Wii U. My biggest fear is I'm going to have to buy all my GameCube titles again (or the few they make available) and Nintendo have been so bad with their online store I wonder how many VC and Wiiware games we'll actually be able to transfer over from this generation.

    As far as they new stuff goes, I'm kind of put off by the new controller. I mean I'm going to need this as well as Wii Remotes and you only get one tablet controller meaning I'll also need a bunch of classic controllers too. All this, along with probably having to keep the original Wii or a GameCube, and my living room is going to look resemble a Nintendo warehouse!

    I'm pretty sure there'll be plenty of great innovative games for it, though. It just means I'm going to have to make some hard choices regarding what beloved games I give up in the next generation.

  • Old_Books #28 4 months ago

    I would add online strategy to that list EG. Not just talking about playing online, which Nintendo could sort out quite easily, but whether or not they have an idea of how to maintain an online presence like Live or PSN. That is there biggest challenge IMO.

    As with any console, though, the doubts will go out the window if Ninty get the games right. Can you imagine if they announced something like Eternal Darkness 2 or a Resi 2 remake for launch?! Together with utilizing their less milked IP, (a proper Starfox and Pikmin 3 would be awesome), they could easily change the perception that the console has in some areas.

  • Mr.Spo #29 4 months ago

    @Timotei

    You should see some of my others >.<

  • johnson81 #30 4 months ago

    I think Nintendo may have a tough time persuading the core gamer in purchasing the WiiU. Unless Nintendo are smart and have a new Mario game on day 1, I think most people will hold off purchasing a system. I think consumers are learning from the mistake of buying a 3DS, I, myself was one who was burnt by the price drop, & the of 20 retro games I've played before does not equate to a £70 price drop in my eyes.

    I think this is what is happening with the PSVita in Japan and could possibly happen with most new consoles.

  • Hamhock #31 4 months ago

    @Darren Never underestimate the buying power of a massive existing wii userbase.

  • Psychotext #32 4 months ago

    @arcam: Interestingly Wiktionary / OED list demoes as the plural of demo. Which would have arguably made demo's valid (if a little odd). Maybe they intended it as an abbreviation of demonstrations.

    http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/demo

    Demos is apparently something else entirely: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/demos
    Edited by Psychotext at 12/01/12 @ 14:39

  • Hamhock #33 4 months ago

    @kirinnokoshin Spot on with your dates. it was E3 2006.

  • spidermanalf #34 4 months ago

    I think it speaks volumes that when people 'pick on' the Wii most people agree, or say 'well there was Zelda, but yeah not great' if anyone was to say the same things about the PS3 or 360 there would be a million people defending the consoles to the death.

    The Wii U has a lot of ground to cover, especcially to get 'core' gamers to pick it up, in the past I think gamers have been very forgiving of consoles, but I think, this generation especially, have started demanding more for their money, and with the online side want, even more, what their friends have.

    The other problem is the main gaming demographic (males from birth to death), have little or no interest in the Wii.

  • byakuya83 #35 4 months ago

    Post deleted at 10:03:41 30-03-2012

  • Scopeh #36 4 months ago

    @Timotei Thats no comment...its a Sermon
    Edited by Scopeh at 12/01/12 @ 14:59

  • Kostas #37 4 months ago

    If it was any other company i would have proclaimed them that they are just fumbling around. Nintendo however i can bet that there will be something to WoW us with. Hell the controller itself is already something to talk and speculate about but what about the rest of the console?

    Other than Virtual Boy Nintendo is not one to disappoint with its hardware and design choises.

  • Subdominator #38 4 months ago

    @abigsmurf I saw on a different website ín an interview with Reggie that the stuff they're showing are the prototypes from last E3 but that those are also the final designs.

  • Subdominator #39 4 months ago

    @Darren Actually they only said it would be between spring 2012 and spring 2013. And they won't commit to the holiday season. So it might very well be early 2013 when the Wii U launches. Aside from that they basically only said that Wii U is now supposed to support two controllers, not just one.

  • Subdominator #40 4 months ago

    @Der_tolle_Emil You buy a Nintendo console for Nintendo games, it's as simple as that. This strategy works for Nintendo. They don't care about high end tech or 3rd party support, as long as they sell their 30+ million consoles and 20+ million copies each of a new Metroid, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Super Mario, Super Smash Brothers, Pikmin, Pokemon, Wii U Sport they are happy.

  • Sid-Nice #41 4 months ago

    I agree with the majority of Darren’s negativity concerning the casual market and with the Wii U resembling the re-modelled Wii console, it will take some convincing the non-gamer to make a purchase. The Wii U is in a very similar position to the 3DS; it may take while before the less knowledgeable understand that the Wii U is a totally different console from the Wii “Little Timmy has one of them controllers; he got it with U-Draw.”

    The tablet controller is the Wii U’s main selling point; but with backward compatibility with Motion-Plus controllers, a HD Wii Sports compilation could be a system seller. For the casuals the ability to create a life-like Mii via the camera on the tablet; would go down well with Just Dance etc. My only disappointment with the Wii U so far is “It won’t be available in black at launch.”

  • Darren #42 4 months ago

    @Mr_Brown - "I think it's unfair to say that Nintendo has turned it's back on core gamers."

    It isn't unfair when even Nintendo admitted they had done exactly that!!!

    Yes, the Wii does have some excellent core games but they were few and far between. I admit that it is Nintendo's own games that I buy their consoles for but because they've had to cater for both casual and core gamers, the number and quality of their games has suffered IMO. I wasn't interested in Wii Fit, Wii Music, Wii Sports Resort or any of the other shallow, family-friendly shovelware they produced, simply because they're not fun at all to play solo, so that left me with less choice of exclusive games. As such my Wii has been left unused for very long periods of time, something that has never happened with any other console I've owned.

    The end result is that I can't feel anything but disappointment towards the machine and it does make me a lot less excited for the Wii U than I might otherwise have been. :(

  • Lunatic4ever #43 4 months ago

    so it is the "old" version and the same e3 footage we've altready seen? WTF=?

  • kirinnokoshin #44 4 months ago

    @spidermanalf

    Not sure I agree with your conclusion. Generally speaking it is the committed minority who defend their hobbies most passionately, and the Wii is most certainly not a minority system (at least as far as sales are concerned).

    That's the problem with message boards on gaming websites, those who contribute are by and large part of a committed minority, and whose preferences are out of kilter with the market at large. Those millions who use a 360/PS3 for FIFA/COD or a Wii for Wii Sports/Fit/Resort are never going to be on this kind of message board. What's more, when people come out and defend said system/game to the hilt it tends to be the same bunch of users commenting over and over again, which is not an indication of that products' popularity, but more of how impassioned (or bored at the time) said individuals are.

  • miiiguel #45 4 months ago

    @andyjames: no, it's not just you, it happens to me all the time, along with no Portuguese characters when posting at eg.pt, can't hit reply or it goes to home page, et cetera. This new site is a mess.

  • TonyHarrison #46 4 months ago

    There was actually something new for us commoners at CES, and that was the Street View thing that had previously been unseen outside of a select group.

    If you haven't seen it, it's worth looking it up.

  • Darren #47 4 months ago

    @Eraysor - The Wii's motion-controls were flawed anyway, that much became apparent the longer you used them. The more use a game required of them, the more frustrating and less fun they became.

    It's kind of ironic that of the games I really enjoyed on the Wii, a good number of them either used the controller sparingly or not at all, e.g. Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart Wii. Zelda: Twilight Princess was even spoilt by pointless "waggling" (oh what fun that was, eh?) and a lack of proper camera control.

    They improved things a lot with the WiiMotionPlus accelerometer add-on thingie but that came too late in its life to have any real impact except in a handful of games. I only picked one up when I bought Zelda: Skyward Sword before Christmas! It's definitely better and only makes me wish the console had shipped with one from launch.

    I am really glad though that the Wii U has completely different controller that doesn't require it to be waved around like an idiot. If the Wii U proves successful then you guarantee that Sony and Microsoft will copy it and then claim that it had been in development for years, etc., etc. ;)

  • DrStrangelove #48 4 months ago

    I'm not interested in the Wii U myself, but if recent years have taught us anything it should be: do NOT underestimate Nintendo.

  • steelslasher #49 4 months ago

    everyone keeps mentioning the obvious problems ahead of nintendo, does no one think nintendo has sat down and had a think about how to deal with these?

  • Darren #50 4 months ago

    @byakuya83 - HD and online features will certainly help, I agree, but are they enough?

    Zelda: Skyward Sword is a truly great game with some beautiful artwork (as you'd expect from a Nintendo game) but it is hard to ignore the ugliness of the low resolution on an HDTV even with component video. It does diminish their impact somewhat, even more so if you saw the Wii U Zelda footage from last year. To be honest, I wish the game had been a Wii U launch title as it would certainly have tempted me to buy the machine earlier rather than later.

  • vert1go #51 4 months ago

    And you still can't obtain that video in the actual HD it was made to run in. Sigh.

  • tictac132 #52 4 months ago

    I'm not sure Wii U has to sell as many as Wii to be considered a success. As somebody said previously, the Wii didn't exactly sell tonne of software, except a few titles. Perhaps Nintendo is looking to rectify that with its next console – it's always made money on each console it has made regardless of numbers sold, so maybe that will be good enough for them.

    I'll wait and see, but I am concerned it will all be old tech by the time it comes out, especially with Sony and Microsoft seemingly readying new consoles in the next two or three years.

  • wez_316 #53 4 months ago

    This is purely speculation of course but I kind of think that Nintendo might even bust Wii U out of the blocks just after E3. I think for a new console it would be a great strategy to release it so soon after the coming out party. What usually happens is they announce a load of games and only 1 or 2 of those end up making the actual launch months down the line. If concrete plans were made and then shortly met, people would appreciate it.

    The more time they leave between the reveal and the release date, the more people will think about the purchase. As months pass people start to think stuff like "Are the launch titles worth it?" and "Should I wait for a price drop." If it's there and out on the shelves it's pretty hard to say no to giving it a whirl. Take PS Vita. I really wanted one at first but after a year of thought I doubt I'll get one now. Anticipation isn't everything. It can even work against you.

  • deez #54 4 months ago

    @threemoh I'd love this, but can't see it. For one thing, how would they get them I'm to shops without it leaking out? Not an issue for apple with their own shop network of course.

  • smelly #55 4 months ago

    Last years showing only happened because developers were leaking information. They HAD to show it at that point to:

    a) appease their shareholders
    b) show the public they thought of the idea first - just in case microsoft or sony got any "ideas" off the rumours.

    It takes a year or two to make a game, so a year later we should be seeing a lot of games on the official reveal...

  • smelly #56 4 months ago

    >You have hit the nail on the head, Wii games on big HD TVs look awful, even with component and nobody likes that


    Not if you have a TV which does upscaling properly. On mine it doesnt look bad at all. If you have a shitty over-expensive sony tv (which makes low res stuff look like lego) on the other hand

  • madjim #57 4 months ago

    There is a simple (though expensive) way for Nintendo to make Wii U kick ass at Day 1:

    -Go to the bank and take some tens of millions of dollars.
    -Go to a major software developer and arrange that a game like GTA V or the new COD or AC3 will be a Wii U exclusive for a couple of months or so.
    -Get the publisher make an announcement that the new offering from Nintendo is the ideal platform for the innovative ideas of their new game.
    -Watch the console sell like there is no tomorrow.

  • smelly #58 4 months ago

    CoD?!?

    No thanks - i'll let the other two consoles have boring generic fps games. I buy nintendo consoles because i like their innovative and fun games.

  • madjim #59 4 months ago

    @smelly

    100% agree. But it will sell the console, and as a start, this is what counts. I wouldn't buy it based on COD, but millions of others would.

  • smelly #60 4 months ago

    Why would someone who already owns a machine to play the likes of CoD on - want to buy a new machine?

    Surely the one thing nintendo have going for them is they're offering gaming experiences the other 2 wont (or cant) offer.

    I dont care how many machines sell or dont sell. I'll still be buying a wii u to play the latest mario/zelda/etc, to marvel at their creativity and have fun, and see what they do next.... All while the "hardcore' gamers scoff at me for buying "the same old ip" before rushing out to buy the latest shooter which looks and plays exactly the same as the other 50 shooters they'd bought this year... But this one can be beaten in THREE hours, not four (so it MUST be better!)

  • Sid-Nice #61 4 months ago

    New Wii U Demo
    Edited by Sid-Nice at 12/01/12 @ 20:42

  • smelly #62 4 months ago

    GENUINE lol at the comments under that video - especially from the fanboys that state as fact things they've totally made up.

    (and the people who dont get that the thing on show was a prototype - despite being told it in the video numerous times)

  • BabyWuigi #63 4 months ago

    I really do love Nintendo's core games more than any other developers; however, unless they get rid of the slide pads and add analogue sticks to the unique controller I refuse to buy one. This is because I rely on the octagonal indents for playing games like Super Mario Galaxy. The slide pad on the 3DS is so frustrating and so many times I died in Super Mario 3D Land because there are no indents. Slide pads are far more uncomfortable to use than analogue sticks and Nintendo should not be adding them to a home console when they already have the best analogue stick patented.
    Edited by BabyWuigi at 13/01/12 @ 19:35

  • smelly #64 4 months ago

    @LaFlamaBlanca - You need to do some research into how lcd tvs work and native resolutions, etc. I dont know exactly about you specific tv, but the chances are if it really does look like shit - chances are your tv doesnt offer proper upscaling. Many tv companies leave the feature out in order to promote their hdtv (by showing you how "bad" low res tv looks on a big screen then showing you how good hdtv looks in comparison).

    Fact of the matter is, that there's not THAT much difference in resolution between a 480p game and (to pick a game out of the blue) halo which ran at a resolution inbetween 480p and 720. But some tv's dont like showing stuff outside of their "native" resolution and so it ends up looking like blocky shit.

    Sony tvs are especially bad for this, lg is especially good.

    I did a LOT of research on hdtvs which show "lowres" content properly when i bought a tv as i own a hell of a lot of dvds. I took a dvd into the stores and insisted they showed me each hdtv playing the "lowres" dvd.. The difference between sets was outstanding.

  • KrazyFace #65 4 months ago

    @smelly: I can kinda see where you're going with this Smelly, but a PS3 connected via HDMI cable is far clearer than a Wii out putting in 480p (both on HDTV). I have an LG HDTV that I bought for when the PS3 was released and had my Wii already hooked up to it pre-PS3 via scart. Needless to say the PS3's visuals blew me away. Having said all that mines a big ol' evil plasma, so maybe that's something to do with it? You seem to know more about it than I do, any ideas?