Valve: Skyrim fastest-selling game in Steam history

PC version outsold all other PC games by over 3-1.

Gargantuan fantasy role-playing game Skyrim is the fastest-selling game in Steam's history, Valve has revealed.

"Bethesda's commitment to and understanding of the PC as a gaming platform shows in the great review scores, spectacular launch, and continued high player numbers that Skyrim has received," Valve director of business development Jason Holtman said.

"We are delighted that Bethesda chose to use Steamworks to support Skyrim both at retail and digitally."

According to Bethesda parent company ZeniMax, a whopping 10 million units of Skyrim have been shipped for the PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions.

This, the company said, represents around $650 million in retail sales since launch.

In the US, the PC version outsold all other PC games by a factor of over three to one in the month of release. ZeniMax noted "large retail reorders across all platforms" and "record-breaking digital sales".

ZeniMax boss Robert Altman said: "We are gratified that Skyrim continues to garner high review scores and accolades around the world.

"We are most grateful to our fans for their support and enthusiasm for the game, and their love of the hundreds of hours of gameplay it offers. We continue to strive to deliver the highest quality entertainment experience for everyone.

"2012 will be another huge year for our fans, with the release of the Creation Kit, as well as exciting DLC which will add to the richness of this epic adventure."

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  • Widge #1 5 months ago

    *awaiting GOTY version for £5*
  • Laserbream #2 5 months ago

    It's a fantastic game and deserves the success. Shame about the PS3 issues though.

    I wonder what province the next game will be set in. I'm hoping for Summerset Isle - loads of elves to chop to pieces and we can find out more about what those weirdo Psijics have been up to.
  • Transmission89 #3 5 months ago

    This is impossible?! Surely PC is dead; ruined long ago by 95% of its ungrateful user base that pirated the software that publishers so generously released.
  • MENTAL1ST Verified Senior Software Engineer, Picsel UK Ltd. #4 5 months ago

    Robert Altman? But he's been dead for five years!
  • MENTAL1ST Verified Senior Software Engineer, Picsel UK Ltd. #5 5 months ago

    Surely PC is dead; ruined long ago by 95% of its ungrateful user base that pirated the software that publishers so generously released.
    Ah, well, Steamworks is clearly quite effective DRM, then ;)
  • Jolly_Armadillo #6 5 months ago

    I guess that shows a clear difference between the typical pc gamer (skyrim) and typical console gamer (COD) preference in games. Selling 3 times as much is amazing when considering that's against the most hyped franchise ever!
  • jogyourmind #7 5 months ago

    It makes me so sad that this game got so over hyped and sold so disproportionately well. To me it is just a glorified hack n slash game but without the gameplay to back it up. It tries to do too much and does a mediocre job of everything. It's like a single player MMORPG but without the brilliantly made classes and the huge varied world, massive battles, etc.
    Edited by jogyourmind at 16/12/11 @ 09:17
  • arcam #8 5 months ago

    @MENTAL1ST

    It's not effective at stopping piracy, there was/is a pirate Skyrim available just like every other game.

    But it is effective at encouraging sales, and Skyrim is the perfect game for a user base like Steam's, so they are a very good match :)
  • MadDave123 #9 5 months ago

    And yet none of these sales figures will be included in any chart listings.
  • arcam #10 5 months ago

    Who cares about chart listings? They will be in the Steam chart (Skyrim is still #1, obviously) and that's all that matters really.
  • FanBoysSuck #11 5 months ago

    It would be interesting if it sold the most on PC like the first Dragon Age.
  • Char-Aznable #12 5 months ago

    I don't see why people say that PC gaming is dead. It isn't as relevant as it was in the past but it is still there. PC gaming will never die as long as there are core gamers. The PC was my first gaming platform and even though I don't game much on it it anymore I will always love it.
    In other news Bethesda should fix the PS3 version before they celebrate. No one likes spending 60$ on a game which has a frame-rate of 0fps at times. Seriously I would hide in my closet if I made a game with that kind of performance.
    Edited by Char-Aznable at 16/12/11 @ 09:29
  • frunk #13 5 months ago

    Must be slightly galling for Valve that it is not one of their own like Portal 2 or Half Life 3... oh wait...



    ... c'mon someone had to say it! Over 10 comments involving Valve without a HL3 reference... I despair!
    Edited by frunk at 16/12/11 @ 09:33
  • Rogueywon #14 5 months ago

    The PC usually makes a strong fight-back late in a console cycle. We didn't really see to the usual degree at at the end of the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube cycle because, quite frankly, those consoles were retired sooner than they needed to be. This time, however, the PC could get to spend several years as the "clearly superior" platform.

    It doesn't matter so much for technologically basic games like the Call of Duty series. But for a lot of titles like Skyrim, which do push things a bit harder, people can see that even a fairly modest PC will make things look and feel a lot nicer than a console.

    Once the proper new consoles (not really including the Wii-U here) hit, we'll probably see another year or two of "PC gaming is dying" stories. It's just how the cycle works.
  • Jayaitch #15 5 months ago

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  • foxski #17 5 months ago

    Feel sorry for the fools paying £35 for it on Steam when it can be picked up for £19.99 at gamestation!

    Even the xbox & PS3 versions are £22.50, never seen such a premium game drop in price so much within weeks of launch. I can only imagine its because the physical shops are desperate to grab as much xmas trade as possible...
    Edited by foxski at 16/12/11 @ 09:56
  • DozyKipper #18 5 months ago

    PC gaming is hardly dead when you consider The Witcher 2 was illegally downloaded 4.5 million times according to CD Projekt. It's just a pity most of the userbase are selfish morons killing their own platform.
  • arcam #19 5 months ago

    @DozyKipper killing their own platform

    So PC gaming is nearly dead?
  • levitate #20 5 months ago

    I'm glad that a game that promotes creativity (mods), intelligence and diligence is selling well on a platform that supposedly should have been buried a long time ago. I pre-ordered Skyrim and I love the game.
  • Subdominator #21 5 months ago

    @Transmission89 Selling much more than the weak competition still equals bad sales overall. US sales in games overall were 1.6 billion dollars. PC gaming (NPD doesn't track digital sales but it is supposed to have almost 50 % market share on PC) took 70 million of that. If they outsold everyone else by 3:1 that means the game made 55 million at retail, slightly over 1 million copies. And another million at digital distribution. Which fits with what we know from first week sales in the UK, where Skyrim sold 60 % on Xbox, 25 on PS3 and 15 on PC.

    Also Steam doesn't talk about numbers, it tracks the revenue created by games. Other games that had a lower price still might have sold a lot more copies despite Skyrim being the fastest-selling game.

    PC gaming is not dead, it shifted towards social gaming and MMOs. The majority doesn't want to upgrade their PC every two years for a couple of hundred bucks just because developers are lazy. I'm sure a lot of those 4 million (TBH I think the real number is at least twice that) downloads of WItcher 2 come from people who want to play the game but aren't willing to pay for it because it runs like shit on their gaming rigs. It is remarkable that on PC games manage to look worse than their predecessors. Why? Because it's all about high end tech and software, PC developers don't care about optimizing their games so it looks and plays great on two year old hardware. The concensus is "If the game runs bad update drivers or your PC but don't bother us with that". And that is why people left PC gaming.

    Consoles show what would be possible if PC developers cared. Guess a game like Battlefield 3 would look like the 360 version on a seven year old PC (seven years being the time when the tech that powers 360 was available for PC as high end)? Nobody knows, because the game doesn't even start on such an old PC.
  • FogHeart #22 5 months ago

    Given the past mods for Morrowind and Oblivion, when the creation kit is released the game will be even more spectacular. Hopefully this time we get a system that's a bit more straightforward and will make sure mods play nicely together and don't fight. On Oblivion it was something of a dark art, but seriously worth the effort.
  • jogyourmind #23 5 months ago

    @Subdominator

    You analysis of the industry is pretty bone headed.
  • username84 #24 5 months ago

    @Jolly_Armadillo

    I'm a console game and don't play COD but play Skyrim.

    Have I skewed your sense of reality?
  • arcam #25 5 months ago

    @Subdominator US sales in games overall were 1.6 billion dollars

    Are you sure about your figures? I can't find much about 2011, but 2010 games sales in the US were apparently worth $10bn. I can't imagine things have changed that much.

    See here: Based on this estimate, spending on new physical content at retail continues to account for the majority of the total consumer spend on games content. U.S. retail sales of new physical video game content, which includes portable, console and PC game software, generated revenues of $10.1 billion, a 5 percent decline over the $10.6 billion generated in 2009.

    Bright spots came from PC games new physical retail software, which was up 3 percent in 2010, as well as increases in the consumer spend on used games sales, full-game digital downloads and downloadable content, mobile gaming apps, and social network gaming, which offset declines in console and portable new physical game sales, rentals, and subscriptions.
  • Transmission89 #26 5 months ago

    @subdominator

    the joke

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    your head
  • edwin_jones1234 #27 5 months ago

    @Jolly_Armadillo That's not fair, I'm a console gamer and I don't own MW3, but I have put 80 hours into Skyrim. Plenty of people play farmville, format bigotry is lame. :(
  • edwin_jones1234 #28 5 months ago

    A lot of people are saying PC gaming is dying/isn't blah blah and sprinkling some hate on consoles now and then. Yes, a GOOD pc (not all of them are) can run games better than on console, fact. Piracy is easier on PC though, that is another fact. The PC market is never going to die, but publishers will stop taking risks if nothing changes.

    Remember Grim Fandango? Yeah, you won't be seeing more of games if we don't start ostracising piracy. There is never an excuse to steal the hard work of somebody else, and games are a lot harder to make than people think. If you dislike their DRM, don't buy it. Stealing a game is just encouraging stronger and more annoying DRM.
  • Darren #29 5 months ago

    Great news for us lovers of single player-only games. :cool:

    Call of Duty? What's that? ;)
  • jah #30 5 months ago

    You know what? PC gamers really get my goat with their snobbish elitism and how they love to slag off of the average joe console gamer (like me), but you have to admit they know how to pick a game. My friends list currently reads like a MW3/BF3 advert. Never mind. Back to Skyrim! See you in August.
  • levitate #31 5 months ago

    @username84: What did you say? I didn't quite catch that, my head just exploded.
  • jah #32 5 months ago

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  • skuzzbag #33 5 months ago

    If you only play on one system you're nothing but a casual.

    Discuss.
  • arcam #34 5 months ago

    @skuzzbag My mum plays on more platforms than I do - Facebook and iPhone. Number of platforms really says very little.
  • darm #35 5 months ago

    @Rogueywon
    >We didn't really see to the usual degree at at the end of the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube cycle
    In 2004-2005 everyone was complaining that PS2 visuals, often used as common denominator in multiplatform titles, were way outdated. I think it was even more than today as now consoles have 720p resolution which is almost decent even for PC.
  • Matfink #36 5 months ago

    Good for them, but this: "Bethesda's commitment to and understanding of the PC as a gaming platform..." How can they say that with a straight face after hoisting that travesty of a UI on us?!
    Edited by Matfink at 16/12/11 @ 12:55
  • Crea #37 5 months ago

    @arcam

    Please stop repeating the silly argument that DRM is ineffective if it does not have a 100% success rate. DRM can be a financially successful move if it makes piracy more inconvenient to the average user than buying a legitimate copy.

    Steam is a two-pronged strategy. It's carrot (great sales, great choice, convenience) and stick (some moderate DRM), and both of those contribute to its huge success.
  • jah #38 5 months ago

    @skuzzbag Nope. Don't agree. I would distinguish hardcore/casual by how much time you spend playing. Most kids, students and young adults can only afford one system anyway unless mummy or daddy pitch in. People have mortgages, rent, tax, bills, student loans, food, drink, kids, wives, girlfriends, boyfriends, related home cinema equipment and belive it or not other hobbies to spend their money on.
  • Xardan #39 5 months ago

    Too much success can be a bad thing...
  • arcam #40 5 months ago

    @Crea

    I'm not saying DRM is completely ineffective. I'm saying Skyrim is no harder to pirate than any other game, so it's unlikely to be the reason for it's success.
    Edited by arcam at 16/12/11 @ 13:08
  • tankboi #41 5 months ago

    @Transmission89

    If I didn't think you were joking, I would have sworn you were a Ubisoft exec! :p
  • Crea #42 5 months ago

    @arcam

    Fair enough, valid point.
  • frunk #43 5 months ago

    @Jayaitch

    I agree with you... but if I said that I would have not been able to slip in the sneaky HL3 reference :)
  • polaris70 #44 5 months ago

    Bethesda has their own way to combat pirates. The game requires patching every 2 weeks. Wonder if other devs are taking note?
  • arcam #45 5 months ago

    On anothere note it would save me having to read eleteist posts about Duty Calls and console plebs ,considering its the PCs fault for the birth of that dross.

    When Call of Duty was a PC game it was awesome. Not many people complained about CoD 1, CoD:UO and CoD 2.
  • Subdominator #46 5 months ago

    @arcam Talking about November 2011. The month Skyrim came out, so the only month that matters here.
  • arcam #47 5 months ago

    @Subdominator So by your reckoning Skyrim sold 2 million copies on PC in 19 days and that is "bad sales overall"? Or maybe I still don't get what those numbers are proving?
  • Lord_Gremlin #48 5 months ago

    See, coincidently 360 version has fucked up textures if installed and obnoxious loading times if not, and PS3 version is a completely broken product (selling it is a fraud, how they ever get away with it?).
    Seeing as PC version is the only truly playable...
  • edwin_jones1234 #49 5 months ago

    @gotyourmoney

    1) Every game you like has DRM on it? Really?

    2) How so? The more copies of a game pirated, the more people are saying they want to play the game. Publishers want to make money off people who want to play their games. If I made a game and it sold 10 copies and wasn't pirated ever, I would think nobody wanted it so DRM is pointless, paying to have it developed would be insane. If I sold 10 copies but it was pirated a million times, I would know people want it, and that if my DRM was good enough I would make more money. Why do you think DRM is getting worse even though piracy is going up? Do you really think multimillion dollar companies know nothing about how to make money?

    PS: I'm an idiot because I make my own argument for my own opinion? You are being rude and contrarian because you don't share my opinion. What point is there in calling somebody else a rude name on the internet? You are welcome to disagree but drop the name calling, please.
  • edwin_jones1234 #50 5 months ago

    @Matfink The game has obviously been made for consoles first. Single threading? 2GB of ram max? C'mon, this was not a PC to Console port.

    That said, it is a good game and deserves praise on everything but PS3. That level of unplayability is unacceptable.
  • The_Bloody_Kettle #51 5 months ago

    As a PS3 user... Man I wish I could afford an amazing gaming PC!

    Maybe when I'm no longer a student. So Elder Scrolls 6 then.. Damn PHD..
  • miiiguel #52 5 months ago

    guess that shows a clear difference between the typical pc gamer (skyrim) and typical console gamer (COD) preference in games.

    This must come from the same mathematical model as the one some dude used to tell me he could prove CoD players get laid more often than Skyrim ones.

    Either way, let's be honest, PC won't get any game this "big" if it's not made (and heavily promote for) consoles in the first place. "You" had your chance with Witcher.
    Edited by miiiguel at 16/12/11 @ 14:59
  • geeza2020 #53 5 months ago

    @Jolly_Armadillo - For every console gamer out there who hasnt bought the sack of shit CoD games - Stick your PC gamer elitism up your arse and fuck off while your doing it.

    (And I own a PC thanks)
  • Wot_the_Melon #54 5 months ago

    @arcam No, but a surprisingly large amount of PC gamers tries to get it that way...
  • digitalash #55 5 months ago

    @Widge Got that right. I'll buy it when they've patched the bugs.
  • Wot_the_Melon #56 5 months ago

    @Char-Aznable "I would hide in my closet"
    What do you think Bethesda are doing?
  • Wot_the_Melon #57 5 months ago

    @jogyourmind And why does that make you 'sad'? Admittedly, you probably got voted down because there are so many people who not only think that for them Skyrim is the best game evar, but that everyone else should think the same way, but y u sad bro? There are a lot of things about Skyrim I don't like either, but there are also some things I do like. I'm not sad it does well (though I do think it gets slightly overhyped for what it is).
  • peppergomez #58 5 months ago

    "Bethesda's commitment to and understanding of the PC as a gaming platform shows in the great review scores, spectacular launch, and continued high player numbers that Skyrim has received"

    Is this a joke? Bethesda did fuck all to optimize Skyrim for PC. The game is great from a content perspective, but this is utter bollocks. Console port fail.
  • Cobalt_Jackal #59 5 months ago

    @miiiguel Its the same for Battlefield 3. That game couldn't of been made without consoles. EA couldn't and wouldn't of been able to finance that game if it was a PC only exclusive (not to mention the consoles gave that game sucess/made it profitable not PC).

    The truth is consoles is where most of the money in gaming is, big budget games need consoles to survive, thrive and be profitable not PC. Because PC on the whole is too niche, and thus its not financially viable, there isn't enough money to be made in it as a platform to justify creating big budget exclusives for it.

    So all you PC elitists shut up about consoles cuz without them your beloved platform would be in an even worse condition than it is now. And yes by and large PC is very slowly dieing. Sure there's an increased popularity recently in PC gaming, and some games sell extremely well/make lots of money (but their the exception to the rule). But this increase in PC as a platform is only cuz this console generation has lasted longer than they traditionally have donne in the past. So gamers are bored and those with enough disposable cash are briefly migrating to PC (PC gamers with "rigs" powerful enough to run the latest games on ultra settings make up about 1% of the entire general PC owning world btw).

    Although it won't last cuz by the time next-gen comes about PC gaming will be pushed of the cliff falling down onto the jagged rocks below (again) to try and climb its way back up as consoles leave it behind in the shadows to wither away and slowly sucombe to death from its gaping wounds. Although i think PC gaming will never actually die as in completly go away, it will just wither away to gradually become even more of a niche market and irrelevence in modern gaming.
    Edited by Cobalt_Jackal at 16/12/11 @ 16:18
  • peppergomez #60 5 months ago

    @Cobalt_Jackal

    Do you write lots of Twilight Fan Fic?
  • Hindle #61 5 months ago

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  • Cobalt_Jackal #62 5 months ago

  • Zaiz #63 5 months ago

    @Cobalt_Jackal

    You realize that PC gaming has held steady for the longest time, right? The problem is, to produce a game that sells well enough to wow stockholders you need to sell over a million copies, which simply isn't going to happen on PC alone. PC has a stigma as being hard to get into and complex...even though its not much harder than owning a console.

    >_> Oh, sure, before this generation you had to watch for patches on the PC and only on the PC, but those also used to come with free expansion packs. Now everyone gets the delights of firmware and software updates! Without the free content.
  • Mr.Gordons #64 5 months ago

    This just shows that good games sell and crap games get shared. I practically bit my friends head off when he asked "can I copy this" while holding up my skyrim box.
  • peppergomez #65 5 months ago

    @Cobalt_Jackal

    If you were being serious, that last paragraph is quite melodramatic, and you spell like you are IMing a lolz-kid. Just sayin'
    Edited by peppergomez at 16/12/11 @ 17:14
  • hiddenranbir #66 5 months ago

    But it doesn't have multi-player tacked on, how is this possible!
  • HeNiCiDe1988 #67 5 months ago

    10 million across platforms is great but suppose not super huge when you divide it by 3 but still a great amount though :D I would like to get it for christmas was hoping to wait til the GOTY but really want it now :p
  • des #68 5 months ago

    3 copies then?

    no numbers=meh
  • ajaxpliskin #69 5 months ago

    Congratulations to Bethesda. They really are pushing the boundaries of FPS experiences.
  • uninspiredcup #70 5 months ago

    Cool. Maybe now they have made money on the pc, they will bother to lift a finger to make a UI that doesn't feel like a console game. Lazy fucks.
  • peppergomez #71 5 months ago

    @uninspiredcup

    Don't hold your breath. They'll stick to their oh-so-ambitious strategy of letting the modding community do part of their job for them. Lazy fucks.
  • hiddenranbir #72 5 months ago

    @peppergomez To be fair the great community do the job better. I wouldn't trust Bethesda in knowing how to make a PC UI.
  • pigwhistler #73 5 months ago

    I remember when PC was still the prime gaming platform - then it took an arrow in the knee.
  • jogyourmind #74 5 months ago

    @Wot_the_Melon

    I'm sad because success like that changes things. They are a huge success and yet it was released too early with too many bugs, and a lot of the gameplay is just really poor (combat etc). But because of the enormous success, this wont change. They know they can release the same thing in a few years, really premature with lots of bugs and no improvement to gameplay, and everyone will rush out and pre-order it anyway, because the hype is all that matters now.
    Edited by jogyourmind at 16/12/11 @ 21:34
  • Xardan #75 5 months ago

    @jogyourmind

    Yep exactly. When a rushed buggy flawed game like Skyrim gets such huge success there really isnt any point in Devs taking time to polish and refine their game before release anymore. And lets admit it, Skyrim was most def rushed, neg all you like it is the truth, not that anyone gives a damn.
  • rtk79 #76 5 months ago

    @Crea as lovely as steam can be, it is by no means a "moderate" form of DRM.
  • azic #77 5 months ago

    @Rogueywon
    A medium end gaming PC Is always superior to console, weather it be a just released console or a 1 year old one.

    I still can't understand the ignorance on this forum regarding this fact?

    Xbox720 will still be inferior to today's high end PC's.

    Buy into the marketing BS all you want? Until your paying north of £800 for a console it's simply never going to be better.
  • peppergomez #78 5 months ago

    @hiddenranbir

    Yes, the community rocks. Wasn't putting them down at all.
  • RedAppleIvy #79 5 months ago

    @JAGUARCD32x I'm assuming you haven't been near a pc long enough to know what the enter key does then
  • jogyourmind #80 5 months ago

    Jaguar you are the worst poster on this site.
  • azic #81 5 months ago

    @JAGUARCD32x
    Your so wrong it's laughable.
    No PC gamers are not elitists. Firstly PC gamers pay for consoles gpu R
  • azic #82 5 months ago

    @JAGUARCD32x
    You talk so much bollox it's almost laughable.
  • DDevil #83 5 months ago

    The irony is practically dripping off that last post.
  • azic #84 5 months ago

    @JAGUARCD32x
    Sony spent money on the cell CPU but used yesteryear nvidia gpus
    Microsoft used yesteryear ATI cards but bolted on a rather sexy daughter board (still not as good a 8800 GTX BACK IN THE DAY)

    Your opinion is bull shit and sounds like a jealous little school boy.

    No sane PC gamer hates consoles, most probably have consoles too.

    What upsets PC gamers, is the way the platform is treated by used to be PC pro devs. The fact that piracy is constantly highlighted on PC but ignored on console when it's just as bad.

    And idiots like you that try to turn a positive thread into a slanging match and worse of all you have no idea what your on about, you sound spiteful and you have no concept of spelling, punctuation, or again what your talking about.

    So please, stop worrying about what you don't understand. Put your efforts into your home work, not console vs PC because your talking utter shit.

    And for the record my last post was cut short, but there is no point me re-writing for you because you will just litter the thread with more illiterate crap.

    Gaming PC > Console (technically/graphics) period! Deal with it. This however does not make it the best platform, but specs wise it's better.
  • OliverH #85 5 months ago

    @Jolly_Armadillo
    Actually, Skyrim is no sign of any such difference. It is far too close to console games. If anything, it shows that console gaming is more and more influencing PC gaming.
  • OliverH #86 5 months ago

    @Mr.Gordons
    Nah, it shows that hyping a game enough still works wonders, regardless of actual quality of the game at delivery, because despite years and years of bad experience with rushed and mediocre games, people still buy on day 1 if you hype the game just enough to make them believe it's the best thing since sliced bread. And unfortunately, the larger part of folks simply isn't smart enough to grasp that they're encouraging rushing games that way.
  • OliverH #87 5 months ago

    @Crea "Please stop repeating the silly argument that DRM is ineffective if it does not have a 100% success rate. DRM can be a financially successful move if it makes piracy more inconvenient to the average user than buying a legitimate copy."

    If in doing so, it makes playing the game for plenty of players just not worth the hassle, then it's a question of loss vs. gain of sales.

    The goal of DRM is not minimizing unpaid copies, it's maximizing paid-for copies.
  • OliverH #88 5 months ago

    @levitate
    I don't see how a game that urges you not to think too hard about what it dishes up to you as otherwise, any semblance of logic falls apart, promotes "intelligence".
  • darm #89 5 months ago

    @gotyourmoney are we on 4chan here by chance? Why would you quote something I never wrote?
  • KanePaws #90 5 months ago

    I blame pirac- oh, wait, what?
  • Ramboness #91 5 months ago

    @JAGUARCD32x It must be nice getting down voted in all your posts, aye?