Nintendo preps huge 3DS overhaul: report
Dual analogue, re-branding planned?
Nintendo is preparing both an external second circle pad add-on for the 3DS, as well as an entirely new model which "radically tones down" the system's 3D capabilities, according to insider sources.
French site 01Net has published the first in a four part report detailing how the platform holder is currently in turmoil over the direction to take its new handheld following disappointing launch sales.
While some of its claims seem rather out-there, the site has pedigree - it correctly broke news of Wii U and PlayStation Vita specs before both machines' respective announcements earlier this year.
According to its source, who it describes as "one of the very few Nintendo employees to dare break the code of silence", the company is currently working on a detachable second circle pad for the handheld.
Apparently the decision not to include two analogue sticks in the initial system build is a source of great regret at Nintendo HQ and was a result of the production process being rushed to ensure the system launched before the PlayStation Vita.
Nintendo's engineers are reportedly spending "sleepless nights" fine-tuning the add-on, which will sell for "about $10".
The source added that the platform holder has asked "a select group of developers" to work on titles for the peripheral, though third parties are growing increasingly disgruntled at Nintendo's approach.
As well as the dual analogue attachment, the insider also claimed that Nintendo is preparing a second iteration of the console for release in 2012.
The new version will "radically tone down" the system's 3D features, possibly rebranding the machine entirely. It was suggested that the recent price cut was planned partly as a means to get rid of stocks of the launch 3DS, clearing the way for a successor.
Finally, the source reported widespread third party frustration at the limited availability of 3DS dev kits. There is still reportedly a long waiting list for the units nearly six months after launch, with only 300 units being made a month.
According to 01Net's mole, development of the kits has been outsourced away from Nintendo's internal Intelligent Systems division to Tokyo Electric and Marubeni.
We've contacted Nintendo for comment.
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+1. Not a truer word has been said. A real shame too.
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I knew it was worth waiting, but I suppose it might be best to actually wait for the 3rd remodelling in 2013 which will include 2 analogue pads and by then we might have a handful of games to play also.
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Always wait for the 2nd model!
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*sigh* I really hope I didn't make a large mistake buying a 3DS as it is.
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No. Given that this is Nintendo, there will be about 3.
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Let me do that for you...
We do not comment on rumour or speculation.
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• I looked back at Nintendo's recent history of redone DS, redone wii controller.
• I decided not to trust them with the 3DS.
• I was right.
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A rebranding seems possible, especially as their "this is not DS, this is 3DS" campaign seems to highlight that they know what a mistake it was not differentiating it enough from a DS.
However options for the new console/model? I just can't see them bumping the internal specs, that would be suicide. I'd personally like to see them use a more modern 3D tech for the top screen. There are 3D screens around know that have a much wider viewing angle for the sweet spot and no ghosting.
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Edit: I don't need two sticks - I also wonder what they mean by toned down 3d. I have to agree that the novelty of the 3d effect has worn off incredibly fast even though it works well enough for me. It's impressive to look at but it only adds to the game the first couple of minutes until you get used to it. Also, the biggest downside is that (at least in Ocarina of Time) anti-aliasing gets disabled when you turn 3d on and it's very noticeable. It looks SO much better without 3d because of added anti aliasing so I keep the 3d off most of the time anyway.
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Honestly, I don't see what the big problem with the hardware is. It's a perfectly fine device, and while battery life is not great it's acceptable. The single biggest thing that's holding the 3DS back is the games. There's just nothing out there, and nothing coming fast enough on the horizon. The dev kit frustration illustrates this point too. I don't get why they're focusing so much on a new hardware iteration when the problem is so obviously the lack of games.
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I want to see this succeed but I think Nintendo are burning themselves by releasing new versions all the time, it creates a lack of trust in the company and prevents people from purchasing when a cheaper, higher spec revision is round the corner.
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Iwata: The first thing (Nobuo) Nagai-san, who’s in charge at the Uji plant, said to me when he looked over the designs for Nintendo 3DS before mass production began was “This time it’s fully packed right from the start.”
Sugino: Oh, really? (laughs) But he was right. That’s why we don’t have any short-term plans for creating a more compact version of Nintendo 3DS like we did with Nintendo DS Lite. (laughs)
Iwata: Yeah. (laughs) When making Nintendo 3DS, we used all our tricks for Nintendo DS Lite—and more—for cutting down on size right from the start.
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I'd say it's the most complete handheld that Nintendo has every produced on Day 1. Yet... it gets slammed. Presumably by people who haven't explored the console properly themselves?
I don't see Nintendo ditching all this hard work. Console redesign... maybe. But they aren't goign to fundamentally rebuild this thing from the inside out.
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Why? did they kill your parents or something? You sad, sad, sad, man...
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Of course there's chance Nintendo had always planned to include some form of dongle with a specific game to encourage sales of that title.
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Anyway, assuming it's true (I have my doubts), this whole 3D thing has been a failure for Nintendo. Guess you can't use a graphic enhancement as a selling point in place of a real gameplay enhancement. If this rumor is true, I bet the next model's marketing will focus on the second stick instead.
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They haven't just seen the Vita and gone "wtf a second analogue stick, what is this crazy idea" and decided to redesign the whole thing before they have even released a Mario game.
The only reason I imagine we will see an analogue stick on the right hand side of the 3ds is if they made a model for left handed people which had the buttons swapped round.
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/jumps forward in time and has a look
I was right!
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It somehow 'sticks' onto the 3DS?? Where??? Assuming it would go over the 4 buttons, then, what are you going to press to shoot, jump etc???? Is there going to be a wire coming out of it that plugs into the 3DS somewhere? How you going to close the lid?
'Selected' developers making games for the analogue stick add-on? What a load of horse shit... If Nintendo went to them and said that, any developer's head would implode at what was coming out of the Nintendo rep's mouth, would ask for a refund on their dev kit and not touch the 3DS with a large barge pole ever again!!
A dual analogue stick is such a simple, important and integral design addition that if the 3DS was meant to have one, it would have had one!!! And even if there was the slightest possibility that they do regret not adding one, they would just keep stum and just get on with what they have got.
If this is true, I'll eat my shoe.. .. .. there's dog shit on my shoe.. ... ..
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Btw it not a bad idea to have games that dont use the 3D.
I just hope 3ds i have now does not become a paperweight.
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Also, I suppose it could be bundled with games.
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What's most shocking is the number of people on this site who seem to be believing this fantasy.
Where is this "detachable second circle pad" supposed to attach to exactly?
Unsurprisingly this 'scoop' is nowhere to be seen anywhere else.
"Some people think the internet is a bad thing, what do you think?"
Correction:
This story is now plastered over a number of other websites, and I'm still struggling to believe a word of it.
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This is currently a 'rumour'
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I'm worried by nintendo. Not by there console design, or there games, or hardware. But i think they are taking some small criticism to heart. Because of the direction they take, and the mass popularity of the DS and WII, some idiots just lambast unessccary fanboy criticism at them (although some valid arguments are to be hard) because its cool to do so and it doesn't play COD or blood spouting games.
Like the, 20 free games and massive price cut was a massive over reaction to a steady start to the 3DS life. Ultimatley it was probably the right thing to do.. but.. yeah.
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The 3rd party to them is just a bonus really, it what makes them different from sony or microsoft in my view.
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That report sounds like a meeting where all sorts of crap ideas are being thrown around.
FOOLS!
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SO glad I cancelled my pre-order.
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I mean, a lot of this suggests being absolutely terrified of the Vita, and I don't think Nintendo are that worried about the thing, however good it may be.
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This site was also the source of the Vita halved RAM nonsense, so I'm not sure why EG are claiming they were spot on with their leaked Vita specs.
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Tuning down on 3D? What's hell the 3D volume slider for then?!
Absolute bull!
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Isn't there an expansion socket on the back of the 3DS?
I've not checked, and I'm not buying one with the current games library either, so...???
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In other news:- Nintendo changes its name to Apple as they keep doing minor and pointless upgrades to their hardware to rip the public off.
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There's hardly any decent games for it and it's been 6 months. I know there are some in the pipe line but it's not good enough, it's been one mess after another where the 3DS is concerned.
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I predicted exactly what has happened so far with the Virtua Boy 2, sorry I mean 3DS.
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You might believe, reckon or suspect something to be bullshit, but 'calling bullshit' is to be reserved for times ONLY when you know something to be untrue, or for those times when you want other people to think you're a tit.
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Little wonder.
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This is just a RUMOR at the moment. IF it turns out to be true I'll be pretty bloody annoyed, especially after the large price cut just months after I bought it.
But, it seems way more than half the people posting comments are taking this as fact. Why? At the moment there is no substance to the claims other than a "source". This is just rumor and speculation that could turn out to be total bollocks.
Grow up...
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Screw that. Whether it's true or not, THEY HAVE A TOUCH SCREEN, is it not logical to use that for camera controls or whatever?
THINK.
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Personally I like my 3DS, if some of you don't or don't even own one then why are you even commenting? Don't tell me peer pressure is forcing you to put your oars in?!?
It's all evolution, live with it, or don't. At the end of the day, it's YOUR choice. Muppets.
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Come on... really?! This better be true because this is a really damaging story. Nintendo are having a hard enough time with the 3DS as it is without people making up bullshit like this.
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PS Vita version will come with a free Magical lamp/three wishes depending on how many exclusives Sony gives us.
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All the faults you've mentioned were noted and in the public eye before the UK launch. You made the informed decision to purchase one anyway. The only real criticism you can get away with is the lack of games, that I'll give you.
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What is going on with Nintendo? One moment, they're doing everything right with both the DS & the Wii, & the next, they turn around, do a complete 180 & start to screw things up. And as to what happened back at E3 '11 with the awful Wii U reveal? Wow. It's like Nintendo said to themselves, "OK, we've won big with the Wii & the DS, now let's turn around & act stupid!". It's like they're going backwards instead of forwards.
They have seriously let the success of the DS & the Wii get to their heads. They need to be brought back down to reality.
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The only thing I`m unsure of now: Is my 3DS blue or green? People say blue but I swear that it looks green to me...
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I bought a 3DS at launch too, the hardware sucks balls (is it 1995 again?), the design isn't sturdy at all and the built in software has the most horrible and slow interface I've had to work with since years. Fuck Nintendo for fucking up a €250,- handheld.