Microsoft to merge GFW and Xbox.com
UPDATE: Microsoft confirms date, details.
UPDATE: The merge will happen on 11th July, Microsoft has confirmed to Eurogamer.
"All of the same content from GamesForWindows.com will be available on Xbox.com so members of communities across Xbox 360 and Games for Windows can purchase and get details on their favorite games, all in one place," explained a spokesperson.
"All account information will remain the same and community members can still take advantage of their Xbox Live profile in their Windows games and stay connected to friends who are playing on the PC."
ORIGINAL STORY: Microsoft is to merge Games For Windows Marketplace into Xbox.com.
According to the brief announcement on the Games For Windows site, its PC digital delivery store will be absorbed into its console hub "soon".
"Games for Windows Marketplace will fully transition over to Xbox.com. Now you can get all of your gaming needs in one place. It’s convenient, it’s concentrated, and it’s a whole lot of great games," read the site.
Microsoft relaunched the service last October in an effort to turn the store into "a destination for games for PC gamers".
We're onto Microsoft now for more details on how, when and why the merge will go down.
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Newsflash, Microsoft want you to pay twice. Why wouldn't they?
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As for GFW merging with Xbox.com, I'm not sure I see the logic. Admittedly I don't think I've ever visited gamesforwindows.com in all my years of PC gaming, but I'm no more likely to go to the official Xbox site for PC games than I am the Playstation or Nintendo ones.
Why should I want to visit Xbox.com as a PC gamer? So I can see adverts for all the games that aren't available for my PC because MS has decided they can make more money out of franchises like Gears of War and Halo if they just release the first one or two titles on PC, then cut the series dead in order to give their console a few genuine exclusives to brag about?
Forgive me if I sound like a bitter and twisted PC gamer, but I actually see this more as an indication of Microsoft pretty much giving up on PC gaming altogether. And I'm not even that surprised by it...
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Same account system, same billing system, same achievement system, same profile system... in fact the only difference is the domain name!
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P.
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Except they aren't because that isn't how you do that. A phones, PCs and TVs have a lot of differences and each have their own needs so unification of systems just means you end up imposing poor compromises on every system or have one good one and two shit ones. What they should do is unify the brands but allow the systems to be as different as they need to be. Live! is a powerful brand because it has done so well on Xbox but it's name is dirt among PC gamers because they tried to use the same system on a platform it wasn't appropriate for. They've actually undermined the Live! brand by trying to make the same system it do something it wasn't designed to do. What they should have done was built something from the ground up for PC, something good, and then applied the Live! brand to it to build up that brand by being associated with two good services.
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You already paste Xbox terms and ads all over both services, MS. The writing's on the wall. I get it. You want me to purchase your console - to give you money up front, money with each expensive game I buy, money from all the overpriced peripherals. You haven't truly supported the PC since 2007, preferring to leave us out in the cold while spending all your effort on your more lucrative market. Thus, my GFWL account is actually an "Xbox live" account. I have an Xbox avatar. I have gamerscore and a gamercard. Yet I do not want an Xbox. I do not want to have anything to do with Xbox. The oppressive omnipresence of your aggressive marketing campaign actually OFFENDS me each time I see it.
So, with all due respect, MS... You can take your console and your marketing both and shove 'em where the sun don't shine!
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Apple has been doing this for years. Microsoft pioneered some good stuff on Xbox and it's only fitting they continue that ecosystem on PC as well. But rather then having a seperate download client for games which is in no way connected to the Games Explorer Microsoft may unify this with Windows 8. Rather then having Steam Achivements you have Xbox Achivements.
Steam is ahead by several factors, one of which is the sheer volume of quality content. Secondly by allowing MODS to work unfettered and a good quality control for cheating. GWL has a lot of catching up to do and let's be honest their tactics with charging for gold originally and trying to force an upgrade to Vista for Halo 2 (a very very old game) has screwed them. Unless Microsoft starts to truely support the system with Halo Reach, Halo 3, ODST, and other exclusives why do people care?
If Microsoft took the approach of unifying everything so that if you choose to game on PC you have the same fantastic experience that you get on Xbox then they would be on to a winner. But instead it's go a paltry small selection of titles, not all of them support achivements and you end up with this sorts of half-ass setup. It could be alot better, but it isn't.
The strategy isn't to capture hard core gamers on GWL anyway. The strategy now is to bring Kinect to PC officially, combine GWL and MSN casual games in a way that will bring Avatars and unique experiences to the PC through Kinect and hope to build an online community around casual games which are paid for by micro-transactions.
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Morons.
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And, maybe it's good for PC gaming to have the crowd who actual pay for their games on their side.
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Competition?
For example the Sony+Valve alliance. Buy Portal 2 on PS3 and you get the PC and Mac versions on Steam for free, all three formats all use SteamCloud for game-saves so you can play and seamlessly switch between console and computer versions. Gabe Newell has presented this as his vision of the future in interviews and at conferences, and I think it would be good if they continue to expand this offering.
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Glad you said that , I forgot I could get portal2 for free on steam. Im off to download it.
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Also I suspect if Linux was ever supported by game devs and hardware manufacturers properly most gamers would drop windows in a second. The only reason I use win 7 and not Ubuntu is gaming, Ubuntu works better for just about everything else.
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more like PC ELI TITS!!!
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There's nothing "elitist" in saying that GFWL as it currently stands is a bad system by all accounts, and is surpassed by pretty much every other DD store when it comes to selling games. And it's easily surpassed by Steam, Impulse, and XFire when it comes to community systems. Making uyse of GFWL for any sort of online game is an outright pain./
Please also kindly note: This is not to do with XBL, even though they may now share the same name. XBL as a system works, and was the service that pushed digital into the console sphere. But despite your love of XBL, GFWL is an abject pain when it comes to online gaming. It is at best a mild inconvenience, and believe me when I say I could write paragraphs and paragraphs about everything it does wrong, ESPECIALLY in comparison to the competition.
For the past 5 years, MS has been promising improvements to GFWL and to really focus on making it a worthwhile system. In various ways they have pretty much failed to do so, and frequently in fact hamstrung it in order to keep important features exclusive on the 360.
This isn't necessarily an ethos I can fault MS for, but if they have had every opportunity to improve it, and have failed to do so. And without further evidence to the contrary, this will remain the same as the four or five previous times (literally) that they've "re-affirmed" their commitment to GFWL. Which is to say: A joke, and a change in name only.
The future for this service could be different. MS certainly has the resources to do so, but no interest.
tl;dr : If they want me to believe that this means anything more than Jack-all, it's time to show me, not tell me.
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@miiiguel Everything you said might be a lot more credible if you didn't spout the "PC GAMERS PIRATEZ" crap in the same breath. Check some torrent sites for X360 ISOs - you'll probably be stunned with disbelief...
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If there's one thing die hard pc gamers hate more than GfWL it would be xbox and everything connected to it
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