Board game blocks Trenched EU release
"Trench" trademark already taken.
Double Fine XBLA game Trenched cannot be released in certain parts of Europe because of an old trademark held by abstract board game Trench, Eurogamer has discovered.
The trademark, filed by Portuguese board game designer Rui Alípio Monteiro in 2007, covers both board games and computer games.
Trench, the board game, like Double Fine's Trenched, focuses on military strategy and army ranks and is set in the World War I era.
A trailer on Trench's website features a monochromatic gameplay board, intercut with World War I newsreel footage.
Our sun-kissed colleagues at Eurogamer Portugal contacted creator Monteiro, who confirmed the trademark but had "nothing else to declare". He referred us to the Trench website for anything else we wished to know.
This news could mean a long European delay for Trenched while trademark issues are resolved. Alternatively, Double Fine could re-release the game in Europe under a different name.
Microsoft declined to comment on the story when asked by Eurogamer this morning.
Trenched emerged on schedule in the US last week but failed to appear in Europe. At the time, Microsoft stated the delay was due to "unexpected challenges with distribution".
Eight days on, gamers are still in the dark as to the delay's cause. Earlier rumours of a hampered German release due to the existence of a Nazi salute in the game were hastily quashed by Double Fine on its forum.
Trenched is Brütal Legend developer Double Fine's take on the tower defense genre. It's the latest in a string of downloadable successes, including Costume Quest and Stacking. "A satisfying genre crossover that follows through on what Brutal Legend attempted", Jeffrey Matulef wrote in Eurogamer's 8/10 Trenched review.
Trenched's opening cinematic.
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I got this on my American account anyway, such a very fine game. You might say... it's a Double Fine game.
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I'd have thought it'd be up to Double Fine to let us all know of their own trademark mistakes and not Microsoft.
I was really up for this game, but I've lost interest now.
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Same reason Nintendo couldn't use the name Pocket Monsters in the west. It was too similar to Monsters in my Pocket. Different names and completely different mediums (before Pokemon became card games, toys, etc) but they're similar enough to cause legal disputes.
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The holder was probably mildly taken aback, to have received enquiries from EG Portugal, and could do nothing but direct them to the website, as he did.
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Well, Microsoft are the publishers. I'm not sure who's responsibility it should have been, but I just don't understand the need to keep quiet and frustrate thousands of fans.
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I believe your mech in this game is called a "Trench" which is probably where the trademark hits. In fairness to the boardgame designer, he probably envisaged a video game version (I know I would, if/when designing boardgames) especially with the rise of casual/ipad type gaming. If he let Trenched go ahead, and then wanted to do a game later, chances are *he'd* be on the end of the lawsuit, because of the established game/brand.
But, I still very much wanna play Trenched (even if it does sound a bit like Toy Soldiers)... and Trench now, too!
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Quickly solved if name changed for Europe ie Lylat War for Starfox or too late, as board game/computer game copyright Trench can still sue for breaches even if name changes?
Question of how much needed to settles? The more airtime, the worse it is and more expensive for DoubleFine and MGS?
Seem very messy hole to get out of, thing is if not able to resolve soon, might as well write it off, costs vs benefits ratio and lost sales/interest over a prolonged period.
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Video of Trench - Appears to be concept/prototype.
This particular filing appears to be made in order to protect the 'Trench' name for any possible digital version of the game. So it isn't trademark trollage. DF have just seemed to have tripped on an obscure trademark. The cheapest route would be for DF to just license the name, unless the chap decides to ask too much, in which case DF would either have to use a different name or seek for the filing to be removed on grounds that it isn't being used.
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Also, @UsernamePending, Microsoft is the publisher, this is their responsibility. Developers develop games, publishers deal with the legalities and practicalities of getting said games to customers. Double Fine shouldn't, and probably couldn't, say anything about a legal situation between Microsoft and Monteiro.
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Call it Entrenched.
My fee's in the post.
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This would be doing Monteiro a favour.
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It's actually the publishers responsibility to check for regional copyright infringement.
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A Large Ditch Carved Into The Ground So Soldiers Can Hide In It..ed
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There, kind of works.
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Given that in this case the trademark refers to a current and actual board game that was first released so recently as 2007, the comparison hardly stands.
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Kinda has a nice ring to it
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It's not just the name though, it's also the concept - both involve soldiers fighting in WW1, both involve strategy and tactics.
DF/MS should just change the name to be honest, not sure what harm it would do them. Games have their name changed for different regions all the bloody time.
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just like cola and coler are different words, try releasing a product called coca coler
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Could I TM 'bugger'? 'Easter'? 'Computer'?
I'm pretty sure the word 'Trench' existed prior to 2007 - Though my memories not that great & I may be wrong.
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]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_d...[/link]
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I grabbed it last week on my US account twinned with my paypal. Glad I did because this game is boss in co-op.
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[link url=http://www.trademarkia.com/trench-85066103.html
]http://www.trademarkia.com/trench-850661...[/link]
He introduced his board game to the professional traders this year at the TOY FAIR 2011 in Nuremberg with some success (I suppose it’s an honest amount of time to release something especially for a small company as they seem to be).
[link url=http://www.criacoesasolo.com/?p=530
]http://www.criacoesasolo.com/?p=530
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What seems to have happened is that Microsoft/DF created a video game, decided to call it TRENCHED, announced it all over the world for the 22th of June 2011, but filled only on May 2011 to register the name, and when they finally discovered that they couldn’t use it, they decided to send it out just in US with the name “TRENCHED” (they probably think that the Portuguese won’t get them there) and are trying to find a solution for the European market.
[link url=http://www.trademarkia.com/trenched-85320298.html
]http://www.trademarkia.com/trenched-8532...[/link]
To me it looks like Mr. Monteiro followed all the logical and legal procedures in the right order which is probably not the case for Microsoft/DF, and maybe that’s why they have been lying about the reason why they could not launch it in Europe on time.
Let’s see now how this will end. Will David defeat Goliath again, or will it be like Homer Simpsons VS. Bill Gates. Personally I will buy that “famous” board game ASAP.
[link url=http://videosift.com/video/Bill-Gates-Buys-Homer-Out
]http://videosift.com/video/Bill-Gates-Bu...[/link]
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I don't really know much about trademarks and the like, but it seems strange that there are other boardgames with "Trench" in the title and they've gone unchallenged but a videogame game has not. Not suggesting its wrong, more that it seems inconsistent, particularly when the boardgames probably pose more direct competition than a XBLA game.
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