Deus Ex, Eidos websites hacked – report
Personal data of 80,000 users stolen.
Hackers have broken into Square Enix's official Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Eidos websites and stolen the personal data of "at least" 80,000 registered users, a new report claims.
9000 resumes were also taken, according to KrebsOnSecurity, a security news and investigation website.
Apparently the hackers plan to release the data on file-sharing networks.
According to logs lifted from the chatroom used by those responsible, the hackers are discussing whether to leak the "src" – likely the source code of the websites in question, although some have speculated it could relate to the source code of Deus Ex: Human Revolution itself.
The attack, which occurred on Wednesday, appears to have been conducted by a splinter cell of hacker group Anonymous, which has been blamed by Sony for last month's devastating PlayStation Network compromise. Anonymous has denied responsibility.
Anonymous has in recent days suffered from in-fighting. The internet relay chat (IRC) channels used by the hacker group were recently rendered unusable by disgruntled members of the organisation.
Eurogamer has contacted Square Enix for comment.
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Edit: or instead of Anonymous they are trying to become Infamous lol.
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i hope they die in a fire caused by their PC's exploding
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It's far harder to build than it is to destroy.
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Die in a fire, hackers.
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Pricks.
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So, your neighbour gets robbed. You note that they merely have a standard Yale lock securing their door rather than the ULTRA CYBER LOCK AWESOME. Instead of sympathising with their loss and all the problems it might cause them in the future you want to mock them for having an inferior lock, is that right?
Just because this is a giant company doesn’t mean they are perfect, nor that we shouldn’t sympathise with them. And anyway, if someone wants to get in somewhere they’ll find a way – that’s just how the world works.
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Both of you have a valid point, but in terms of network/IT security, you can still have the best firewalls in the world right now and be hacked. Security such as Firewalls/AV will always be, to a point, reactive - AV protection comes out but there will always be something new created to which the AV security firms have to react.
Just the way of the IT world, rubbish I know, but that's it in a nutshell.
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After all the damage they have caused i hope the powers that be round em up and give em the US army custody treatment lol.
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No, they have not been blamed by Sony. *sigh*
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Both of you have a valid point, but in terms of network/IT security, you can still have the best firewalls in the world right now and be hacked. Security such as Firewalls/AV will always be, to a point, reactive - AV protection comes out but there will always be something new created to which the AV security firms have to react.
Just the way of the IT world, rubbish I know, but that's it in a nutshell. "
I understand what you're saying but I disagree (to a point). Yes there will always be hackers and no system is hacker proof. But in the IT Sec world there is something called "defence in depth"; Multiple layers of security, of which firewalls only form a part. IDS and IPS systems, DMZ, Honeypots, Regular vulnerability scanning and penetration testing to highlight your own weaknesses, etc etc etc. The problem is that "defence in depth" costs money the deeper you go and every company makes a risk based decision on how much to spend on security. A massive financial organisation will typically have greater defence in depth to protect their assets as the risk (and subsequent consequences) of being hacked are far greater than if a game developer/publisher suffered the same fate. In short, it *IS* possible to implement a system that is *almost* hacker proof. It just costs an insane amount of money. Money that Square Enix will not have. This is why you don't see yearly occurances of the stock market being hacked. Why? Because it's locked down to the n'th degree.
In the case of Square Enix, they would have made a risk based analysis on the likelyhood of being hacked. Measured what the consequences of that event occuring and then Weighed that up against the cost of defending against such a hack. This then equals their security solution.
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I don't say they are and I don't say they are not behind all these, but aren't you people a little too fast to swallow what they feed you?
This is companies talking it's not like they never lie or assume or be plain and simply wrong. Even more so when anyone could do that and be, well, anonymous? (but not the group).
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EDIT: @TelexStar: The London Stock Exchange and the Nasdaq have had several severe security breaches just within the last year. Still, they most likely have (as you say) a more costly security system in place than squeenix.
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Is it really a surprise that what they got instead was a bunch of egotistical, pedantic, peurile, sanctimonious pricks?
I hope they're careless enough to get caught.
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Also - I agree that is a cool Sarif Industries video. Looking forward to this game.
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2011 has been a great year for giving your personal details to gaming companies so far!
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My first thoughts about it were that it is a publicity stunt.
It's a website about a games that features hacking prominently, and hacking has been in the mainstream media for a few weeks now due to Sony's issues...
Just my initial thoughts...
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Oh absolutely, I have no doubt you're right but what we don't see is how many attacks failed as a result of their security policy. The Nasdaq and LSE are far greater targets than Square Enix so you would expect the quantity of attacks on the Nasdaq/LSE to be far greater as a result.
I'm picking numbers out the air here but the Nasdaq/LSE probably get actively hit hundreds? if not thousands of times a year. The majority of those will have been defended. Compare that to the number of attacks Square Enix received and you can bet your Grandma's inheritance it will be massively lower.
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That automatically irks people having no clue about IT but the power to decide about its budget.
It's the same for backup solutions which are never felt needed until they are needed!
Much easier to justify a shiny new laptop for the CEO as his Outlook opens 10 seconds faster then...
The only good thing coming out of these attacks is that you can point to them in the future and ask these guys if they want to be next or shell out the necessary money.
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The hackers are just a simptom of the disease that plagues the modern world.
They highlight the problemt that big companies and people alike should be more aware of he value of information but recent news suggest just the opposite, with shit like forcing people in to idiotic gaming profiles for almost all big, publishers besides their regular profiles for consloes.
I'm looking forward to the day when every shit you do will be brodcasted towards the world so that hackers can rape you with it.
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This is yet another example of why a digital only future or over relience on web accounts for EVERYTHING is a STUPENDOUSLY BAD IDEA.
Which ever hackers are responsible for this and the Sony attack all i can say is that their activities are pointless unless they are theiving criminal b'stards intent on using the info for personal gain.
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Also, I NEVER fill in my real info into sites like that. SE doesn't need to know where i live. And preferably I use email adresses that aren't my main.
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I try not to worry about it as my bank are very quick to detect fraud to the extent that they'll even ring me to confirm valid transactions I've made if there's a few at once (when I get pre-order happy!) or not from places I normally use. Shame that I usually have to deal with someone who's first language isn't English but, hey, at least they're making an effort!
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It makes no difference whether you are buying a downloadable game from Sony or a boxed game from Play.com. There's still a database out there with your details on it.
At least in the case of downloadable titles it isn't necessary to store your address details too. And at least there's only one point of failure, rather than the multiple game shops, some with terrible security, that hold your data right now.
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If a friend got mugged, would you blame them for not buffing up down the gym more often? That might have helped them, but its still not their fault. The very basic stupidity of such a statement makes me choke.
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If a person gets mugged they just lose their own stuff, so they are welcome to have as much or as little security as they like. If you are responsible for other people's things (money, personal details, property etc.) then you have a responsibility to those people to make sure you are properly secured.
But that doesn't really apply here, because we know nothing about Eidos' security. If it was up to scratch, then they've done nothing wrong and this is just one more hacking incident in a list of many.
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I agree that if you are looking after other peoples' stuff you have a responsibility to them to protect it, but the tone of some posts seem to suggests that the hackers are guilt free - or even doing people a favour by "testing" security. By all means critisise a lack of security, but lets not forget who is truly responsible for the disruption. No hacking action means no negative result, regardless of how sturdy security is or is not.
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Reading this internal squabble is interesting. Makes it even more clear that these are a bunch of selfish, unsympathetic asshole kids who do this just because they're bored and there are no consequences. As the paraphrased age old saying goes; anonymity spawns fuckwads.
Sincerely hope they'll swiftly get what's coming.
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Let me be clear, the hackers are miscreant little fucks who should be prosecuted. I'm not defending them.
However, I work in the IT Security industry and I can tell you that many companies do not always take the secrity of the information they are custodians of seriously. I'm not specifically pointing the blame at Sqeenix here as I don't know the details but it doesn't change the fact that if you collect the personal details of customers, then you are responsible for ensuring the security of those details.
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The only thing that can prevent this happening is good security, so it makes sense that that's the focus of discussion.
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And to think, there are people out there that give these fucking low-lifes their respect.
If there's one thing I hate, it's hackers. Hackers and getting cancer.
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I too work in the IT industry and to be fair, I did water down my post a little bit due to a few time constraints - but your point about "Defence in Depth" is spot-on and I completely agree with you.
I was merely trying to point out that there's a lot more to it than a company being "irresponsible" - your points about risk-based analysis elaborates a little more on my comment, so thanks for the help!
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Really, I'm pretty much on the same page as you. I am in no way saying corps that don't look after their customers' private data should be applauded. I'm just playing devil's advocate to the ludicrous notion some posters (on this and previous threads) have regarding security. People have literally said this kind of thing is good as it tests security (the logic behind why security exists, and whether it should have to exist, seems to escape them) - densitity of that magnitude just draws me out.
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