RunesCape Veteran Cape: Jagex responds

Was the free-to-play community misled?

There's dissent among the RuneScape ranks because of a Veteran Cape.

RuneScape maker Jagex asked both free and paying players to vote on a design for it, and touted the garment as a reward for "players whose accounts are more than five years old".

But when released earlier this week, the Veteran Cape was only given to paying RuneScape members. Cue outcry among veteran free-to-play RuneScapers, and forum threads swelling over 100 pages.

Eurogamer confronted RuneScape vice president Daniel Clough for an explanation.

"RuneScape has a huge community of both free-to-play users and members that we treat as one group wherever possible. This is especially the case with our player polls, which are regularly used to give the community a say in the development of future content.

"Whatever the questions we ask, we allow everyone in the community to vote – the Veteran Cape poll was no different. This allows the entire community to shape the game regardless of their status, even if the subsequent content isn't eligible to them because of their skill level, experience or membership status," said Clough.

"Our community has never been backwards in coming forwards and we love them for it. We are open to their feedback and we often seek their views on what we do and the updates we make.

"As with all updates," he added, "it is impossible to please everyone and naturally it is a shame to hear when elements of our community are upset with decisions we have made."

Clough explained that capes, whether unlocked through high skill or achievements, have "traditionally" been gifts for members - the sort of "special benefits" subscribers "have to have". He found it "regretful" that free RuneScapers felt misled about the Veteran Cape.

"With hindsight it is obvious to say that we could have made it clearer in order to avoid any possibility of misinterpretation," offered Clough. "We treated the Veteran Cape update like any other members-only update that we release by naming the avatar's requirements. In this case, it is the time that this avatar existed, in other cases this is a skill requirement or finished quests that is required on top of the membership status of the avatar.

"As soon as it became apparent that some players were upset or felt that they were misled, our community support team answered the players' questions on the forums and Mod_Mark, RuneScape's Lead Designer, also responded to players. "

Going forwards, Clough said Jagex "will try to be clearer" about what will be given to free players, and what will be given to paying members.

For now, could Jagex score a PR victory and appease the mob by offering the Veteran Cape to all players, free and paying?

"Jagex is not about scoring PR victories; Jagex is about making great content," Clough told us. "Members have to get benefits for their subscriptions – we can't make everything free for everyone.

"That said, we are hugely proud of our free-to-play game. RuneScape offers millions of players one of the largest free-to-play MMORPGs, without ever asking them to subscribe. We give free players thousands of hours of content and it is a testament to the game that we have loyal players who have played the game for five years without ever paying us a penny. "

RuneScape. It's bigger than you realised.

Comments (20) Latest comment 1 year ago

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  • Shikasama #1 1 year ago

    Is there a school somewhere which CEOs attend to learn verbose bullshit?
  • mcbi4kh2 #2 1 year ago

    Maybe, I dont think he attended though. I thought he was quite succinct.
  • hippyjump #3 1 year ago

    Runescape is really for nerds tbh
  • Mister-Wario #4 1 year ago

    "Members have to get benefits for their subscriptions – we can't make everything free for everyone".

    Well, you COULD, but you'd go out of business in like a month.

    On a serious note, it sounds like they mishandled this pretty badly.
  • gingerlink #5 1 year ago

    "Runescape is really for nerds tbh"

    Says a guy posting on an internet comments thread
  • nuanimal #6 1 year ago

    Well, you get what you pay for.

    A piece of clothing that doesn't really exist!?
  • Centrifugal #7 1 year ago

    This article's headline is what's truly misleading; he doesn't respond, he just spouts nonsensical bollocks.
  • AmherstWind #8 1 year ago

    "As with all updates," he added, "it is impossible to please everyone..."

    Errr no its not impossible... make the cape available to all free and pay members? Surely that would please everyone?
    I mean everyone uses the phrase "you can't please everyone" but in this case they literally could please everyone... they're just choosing not to.
  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #9 1 year ago

    It's a fucking cape.
  • Agent_Orange #10 1 year ago

    Those CEOs and their crazy capers.
  • Mnia786 #11 1 year ago

    All the other achievement capes for 99 skills have been members only too, even though you can max about half skills only on f2p so not sure what the problem is - or is it because f2p was allowed to vote thinking they too would get it?

    It was years until the wildy cames became f2p - and that was to promote clanning. F2P is great up to a certain point, when it just gets that bit tedious running out the same bits of Glienor. Is true that once you go members, f2p gets quite unbearable but f2p for resource gathering is not that bad.
  • hulahoops #12 1 year ago

    Well I damn well hope they got their money back.
  • hulahoops #13 1 year ago

    "Errr no its not impossible... make the cape available to all free and pay members? Surely that would please everyone?
    I mean everyone uses the phrase "you can't please everyone" but in this case they literally could please everyone... they're just choosing not to."

    Nope it'd piss off the paying members.

    You really can't please everyone all the time when it comes to freemium because if you please everyone all the time you don't make any money.
  • BuddyChrist #14 1 year ago

    @Shikasama

    This guy has probably retired from politics
  • Dannyboy1100 #15 1 year ago

    @mmia786

    It's because they stated that "all" players who have played for over five years will be able to get a veteran cape. All obviously should mean f2p players as well but apparently not. Typical jagex mix up.

    I would whine too except I haven't played since 2006.
  • IamSagittare #16 1 year ago

    " He found it "regretful" that free RuneScapers felt misled about the Veteran Cape. "

    That the cape was for 'all players' was repeated numerous times, and was only said to be a member item on the day of release. In fact, there were many threads on the forum over two months asking if this cape was also for free players with no response.

    On the Runescape forums, the overwhelming majority both members and free players are demanding this cape to be given to all players, and a portion of members are unsubscribing in protest.

    The majority of veteran players on the free game are past members.

    " "RuneScape has a huge community of both free-to-play users and members that we treat as one group wherever possible."

    What he fails to mention is that under the current mis- management, over half the game population are gold farming bots.
    Edited by IamSagittare at 07/05/11 @ 08:54
  • Poontash #17 1 year ago

    I just had a go to see what all the fuss was about. I don't understand how so many people can play it, let alone get upset about a cape.
  • just4lols #18 1 year ago

    Are you serious ?

    ""Our community has never been backwards in coming forwards and we love them for it. We are open to their feedback and we often seek their views on what we do and the updates we make."

    The day jagex become open to player feedback is the day ill look like the skeleton in their laughable ad at the bottom of the article .....

    infact thats probably is one of their forum community whose died trying to find a way to communicate with the company other than offering them cookies or creating yet another "my favourite J-mod thread"
  • Dannyboy1100 #19 1 year ago

    ^lol listening to player feedback

    It took them five years to return free trade... and they had long since ruined the game by then.
  • Kikizosan #20 1 year ago

    "Errr no its not impossible... make the cape available to all free and pay members? Surely that would please everyone?"

    Clearly, you're not familiar with the mentality of certain MMO players, then. No, that wouldn't please everyone. There'll always be someone who gets irked by ANY update, even something that on the surface sounds like it would please everyone.
    Edited by Kikizosan at 09/05/11 @ 10:26