Is Anonymous behind PSN outage?
Sony investigates possible "targeted behaviour".
Sony is investigating the possibility of "targeted behaviour by an outside party" as the PlayStation Network continues to remain offline across the US and Europe.
It has been impossible to sign in to the PlayStation Network throughout today.
This morning Sony described the problem as an "outage", but in a new message posted on the EU PlayStation Blog, manager James Gallagher suggested hackers may be responsible.
"As you are no doubt aware, the current emergency outage is continuing this afternoon and all Sony Online Network services remain unavailable," he said.
"Our support teams are investigating the cause of the problem, including the possibility of targeted behaviour by an outside party. If the reported Network problems are indeed caused by such acts, we would like to once again thank our customers who have borne the brunt of the attack through interrupted service.
"Our engineers are continuing to work to restore and maintain the services, and we appreciate our customers' continued support."
The Anonymous group, upset at Sony and George "Geohot" Hotz' out of court settlement over the PlayStation 3 jailbreak lawsuit, declared war on Sony earlier this month.
In a video posted to YouTube last week, Anonymous promised to deliver "the biggest attack you have ever witnessed".
However, earlier this month Anonymous "temporarily suspended" its war on the PlayStation Network – saying its beef was with Sony, not Sony's customers.
"Anonymous is not attacking the PSN at this time," Anonymous said. "We realise that targeting the PSN is not a good idea. We have therefore temporarily suspended our action, until a method is found that will not severely impact Sony customers.
"Anonymous is on your side, standing up for your rights. We are not aiming to attack customers of Sony. This attack is aimed solely at Sony, and we will try our best to not affect the gamers, as this would defeat the purpose of our actions. If we did inconvenience users, please know that this was not our goal.
"This operation is a response to Sony's attempt to deprive their customers of products they bought and therefore own, wholly and completely. Anonymous will not attempt to fight this by following the exact same course of action.
"We have plenty of tricks up our sleeves."
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4 days off in the UK you Bellends!
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And I don't even go on PSN.
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This doesn't benefit anyone but their ego's - so fuck 'em.
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A seriously fucking dull movie, full of pathetic, hateful characters, maybe......
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Then reveal who you are, big shots!
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Seriously guys, just drop it.
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A bit like you're doing by depriving me from accessing my own PSN account today...? Nobs.
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Blah, blah, blah.
Funny how they only said that after Prolexic got involved. Before that, we were "collateral damage" according to a statement released by Anonymous after their first attack.
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"Were not shit at managing an online network honest, it's those bloody hackers, yeh, the hackers blame them !!"
WTF neg me futha muckers !!! You can't handle the truth !!! I'll stick my dick in your ear and fuck what you heard !! etc.....
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It had been foretold: April 21 2011.
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Sony wouldn't lie about it, that would be proving Anonymous's point.
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Internet Nerd laughing at internet nerds raging on internet nerds.
Internet nerd commenting on internet nerd laughing at internet nerds raging on internet nerds.
holy meta...
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]http://www2.b3ta.com/bigquiz/hacker-or-s...[/link]
I find this simple quiz a good way to understand the complex issues facing the misunderstood hacker in today's society.
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Is that how it works?
I'd love to know exactly how you bring down a global network protected by one of the biggest companies on the planet from your bedroom. If a group of 'hackers' brought down PSN in both the US and the EU I would be both impressed by them and amazed that Sony was set up in such a way it could happen.
Normally Sony are shit hot on their secur....ah, hang on.
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Unlikely, PSN has been borked all week. Had to resort to doing an 'Internet Connection Test' evry day since Sunday before logging in. On tegh other hand, it's absolutely fantastic weather in the UK as well as in mainland Europe. BBQ, anyone? Cold brewski?
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(do feel sorry for new SOCOM4 owners though..)
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Cunts
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If it definitely isn't them their not going to be happy with Sony blaming them, this will go on for a while
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In other news, that embedded video is embarrasing. The more I hear about Anonymous, the more they just look like a bunch of nerd kids trying to feel cool. I mean using the V for Vendetta mask, seriously? Really? What next, a Batman suit?
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So what on earth is everyone on about? Read the words people, it really is that simple.
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i think alot of people recognise that Anon may not be behind it, i think people are using this space to comment that they are fed up with hackers, and all this bullshit. After all, 99% of us are gamers and just want to play games without the hassle of a couple of people trying to ruin it for everyone else.
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Hey, I get entirely the anti-Anon venting, and I'm in agreement with that sentiment 100%.
There is just a bit of my brain that gets all firey when I read statements that are blatently intrue. When someone writes "Sony blaming Anonymous..." when they simply haven't, the sparks start firing and my vision goes blurry
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Indeed.
Sheeple likes neg? Seems so!
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So Steam's the string vest wearing, Stella drinking frontman, and PSN is hiding in the bathroom, frightened to show the fresh bruises ?
*gasp*
Metaphorical domestic abuse quips ?
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Clever girl.
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Link
Entirely feasible i guess.
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Sony have not said it was an attack, just that they are investigating the possibility. They know that any downtime could be blamed upon hacking groups and therefore damaging said groups reputation in the eyes of PS3 owners whilst saving themselves some face.
Potentially a nice little scape-goat for Sony though.
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After 18 hours of "emergency maintenance", you'd think hack groups eventually behind this outage would have taken the opportunity to speak up and claim responsibility. Obviously they didn't. Like with the calendar bug of last year, Sony are responsible for this worldwide mess.
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Exactly when did Sony take away backwards compatibility? My 60GB PS3 still plays PS1 & PS2 games that are on the compatibility list (although I have very little need for the feature).
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-0...
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Fair point! actually theres been a few times when i have thought the same tbh. But it is still great fun to read some of the comments
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I laughed so hard I nearly pissed myself when I read that. You're 21 days out mate.
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Sony didn't mention Anonymous, so you shouldn't either. By writing these headlines and articles, you get a result like you can see here: 90 percent of commenters get infuriated at either Anonymous for presumably attacking PSN or Sony for presumably scapegoating Anonymous, while the one scapegoating them is actually you.
You've got some responsibility as a journalist not to imply someone (or some group) could be guilty if you don't have any proof.
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So boring bunch of armchair activists full or hot air, not out there practicing what you preach. I mean if you could hurt Sony by somehow telling us how crap their stuff is, then Sony would have folded ages ago...the definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way and expecting different result. You might not comprehend that considering you might be insane
People still with this crap about Sony taking away Other OS, really is that all you moron can say? That argument has been thrown around more than a 3 day old whore, let it die because it's basically beating a dead horse, it's never coming back. Sony will probably never ever allow it in a system again thanks to supposedly "adults" acting like children and doing ridiculous things to retain something that was basically an after thought. No one can say installing linux on their PS3 was anywhere near as useful as having it on a PC, if you can either you are one amazing hacker or a very bad liar. Drop the removal of software you paid for crap, if it was such a big deal why didn't you take it to court? Because it simply wasn't viable as there are other alternatives and a court, judge would most likely say the same. Galavanting around claiming to be saviors of the people and what not doesn't help your cause because you can't hurt Sony without hurting it's customers...again with ability and skills why aren't these guys out there doing us a real favor and catching criminals what a waste. To say we as a species are coming to an end is an understatement, we care more about spiting someone amazing. Kudos friends carry on, what makes this crap any less ridiculous than terrorism? Claiming to fight for a cause, check...will send out videos warning of impending attacks, check...and will say that bystanders are casualties to be expected, check...wait a minute?
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Seriously, some of you should have some much better priorities.
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For me i still playing old playstation 2 games , so yes online downtime is an issue but not a major one , it could however be one if consoles ever went full drm and download online then it would be a major issue.
also mortal kombat online pass thing i need sort out as well.
Psn getting better on what they offer but the nextwork itself is not as good as xbox live and i can say that as a neutral towards both consoles, ps2 is still in my view best console ever made.
Also can sony give us some reasurrance that are personal details like billing info will be safe from hackers, as this is something i am not sure about.
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At least they've abandoned any pretence at standing up for gamers and are now openly trying to fuck us over.
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What C*NTS
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I can think of people I'd very much rather be represented by than a pack of teenagers with botnet access playing cyberterrorist -.-
Besides it very well could be 'Anonymous', in the sense that it's quite possibly members of the amorphous blob that, in true anarchic spirit, decided to act contrary to the press release.
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IT IS NOT ANONYMOUS
use your heads, read the article. no-one but EG is claiming it is anonymous.
edited to remove unecessary bad language, Ive calmed down a bit now.
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As the one above said: [link url=http://n4g.com/news/748746/anonymous-claim-giving-credit-card-details-will-get-you-back-on-psn
]http://n4g.com/news/748746/anonymous-cla...[/link]
Nobody but EG, huh? Oh and way to use obscenities there, it made your argument so much less fallible.
Right now it looks like it's pretty well up in the air. I certainly hope it isn't, but I wouldn't be surprised if it Were those cyber-yobs.
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Would it be those same people who use No Cd hacks, download pirated games, movies, TV shows or what have you. The same people that use hacks every day of their life but act self righteous when they find themselves affected. Nothing funnier than gamers who getting worked up over hackers when it's those same hackers that allow them to circumvent stuff all the time.
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Or it's just a regular network outage caused by insufficient bandwidth after announcing the Steam thing. We may never know.
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They don't charge to play games online, so everyone can game with their friends for free on the net. If this is what happens when we're not charging for multiplayer, heaven only knows how many toys would be slung out the pram if they did.
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I buy my stuff new as well , i think issue here is games prices not everyone has a job or is able to buy 3 big full price releases at once , this week portal 2, mortal kombat and final fantasy 4 complete collecttion came out.
Ok for me because im working and want to get these games and save money fairly well but not everyone in that position.
Prices for video games could be cheaper maybe then more people would buy them. i guess its up to people that make the game to ask themself is this game worth selling at £39- 49 then yes sell it at that price or should we sell it cheaper and maybe sales would increase.
I read somewhere that prices in uk are falling very quickly compared to other parts of the world, so maybe waiting few weeks is the solution then getting the game.
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Have a go yourself and see what happens!!!!
Apparently we cant even play some single player games because of trophy info!
GREAT!!!!!
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No. No we're not.
I see the bizarrely arrogant "I'm poor so I have a right to steal it" mentality is being paraded about now too. Holy fucksticks, we're doomed.
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Which single player games are effected by this on ps 3?
Would be helpful to know if they end ps 3 support in future.
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Indeed SavageEvil - I'm in the same boat as you. A number of my friends and acquaintances cheat and use tricks like custom Receivers to get free cable and channels and everything. Not only this, they will proudly flaunt this in front of other friends (meaning me). I just don't understand this mentality. As far as I'm concerned, if I cannot afford it or do not want to pay for it, I will GO WITHOUT IT.
I have never even snuck into another screen in a multiplex (barring one occasion when my wife pressed me - I felt like sinking into my seat and tried to make myself as inconspicuous as possible the first 40 or so minutes of the movie - felt like everybody was staring at me).
As for Machiavellian, I wouldn't put much stock in what he says - what he says very often tends to depend upon the platform he has "chosen to side with".
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More likely these loners living with mummy are just targeting the only thing related to Sony available to them - anything actually resembling physical movement, like marching to their HQ, will instantly fry their pale skins.
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The most likely reason is Sony messed up and won't come out and say why due to embarassment. If they were attacked by Anon, surely Sony would have said something to show that it is not their fault and get the gamers on their side?
Going by previous outages, my blame sits on Sony, after all, you get what you pay for.
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Anyway, Just getting tired of people lashing out without considering who really benefits from this outage. When you follow the money you always find the culprit. It isn't Anonymous, It is Sony. More than likely it is bad code for integration or bad code from a trap to ban modded systems that accidentally banned all systems. As long as noone is blaming them they will not fix it.
Please band together and point the finger and blame at Sony. This is just the tip of the iceberg when you consider the magnitude of the problem we are facing with corporate lawyers stripping privacy and rights out of everything just like the government in the USA has already done. The Constitution is now an antique relic that bears no weight in the new US legal system and once that is complete then the elite win without a shot ever being fired. We lose and it won't be just an online game in the end.
Think people. Please try to remember what freedom was and maybe we can turn the tide and save our societies. One World Government will be a lot worse than "I want to play Call of Duty" The consumer rights are being stripped for the benefit of governments and corporations. When you do not stand up for those rights then you deserve none at all and that is exactly what those in charge have in mind.
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I just wanted to ask, Does any one know when Sony reckon the PSN will be back up and running? Or at least point me in the right direction to go find out pls?
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As were their actions over the persecution of Assange after Wikileaks.
I'm glad they're around.
Don't know diddly about this Sony b.s.
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Here's the link (Apologies if I'm not allowed to do this, in which case I'll be happy to remove the link)
Link removed because it's Tuesday and On MY PS3 it's still down.
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Sorry wait, this is the Daily Mail website right?
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If my own interpretations, there are two possible scenarios. The first is that they basically lied to the people they claim they are fighting for, that and being responsible for taking down PSN can't be good for their respect from PS3 owners. The second is they are trying to save face for people acting on their own, like in a film I saw (possibly The Sum of All Fears). Rogue Russian aircraft attack US forces, Russian President says it was an ordered attack. He claims better to do that, risking WW3, than to look incompetent. Personally, my money's on the second.
I'll look to see if can find their FB page again, not a big fan of the site as a whole.
EDIT - 2 quotes from their FB page
There are things that go beyond your personal pleasure... you may not be able to enjoy things because of our actions but it is for a greater cause. Fri 3:55am
Take a break from online gaming for a while.....it will help your skills, your health, and your emotional levels, which by the way are a bit out of order if they are being shackled by the PSN being down. We have no qualms about our actions, even though it may affect fellow anonymous or supporters... we hope they understand the bigger picture. Friday 4:21am
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"Anonymous is on your side, standing up for your rights. We are not aiming to attack customers of Sony. This attack is aimed solely at Sony, and we will try our best to not affect the gamers, as this would defeat the purpose of our actions. If we did inconvenience users, please know that this was not our goal.
Like they said they do not want to target the customers they are simply targeting Sony and it is Sonys fault that PSN is down they were not trying to steal info they just wanted to give back To customers. Yes it sucks it is down but I like anonymous for what they are trying to do
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If it IS the case it was an outsider working under the Anonymous umbrella without their knowledge, it is STILL them to blame - it wouldnt have happened if they didnt start it in the first place. Bunch of pathetic morons, all of them.
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They call themselves our FRIENDS?? They ruined our gaming. I don't give a damn what they do but NOT ending PSN.
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Though saying that, if the reporter on this article did a little digging, they would find out that jailbreaking your playstation lets you download anything you like off playstation store by pretending to be a developer console, this in of itself makes PSN as it was before the shut down a bigger source of copyrighted material than the pirate bay, and as such Sony have spun a little 'oh it's not us doing it' PR campaign and shut it down to fix it, you want people to blame, blame the PSN users that downloaded the jailbreaking torrent off the pirate bay.
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