Sony CEO: DS is a "babysitting tool"

By Fred Dutton Published 8 April, 2011

Wii and 360 are "running out of steam".

The Nintendo DS is nothing more than a kids-only "babysitting tool", reckons Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton.

"Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool," Tretton said in a bruising chat with CNN, "something young kids do on airplanes, but no self-respecting 20-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that."

Elsewhere in the interview, Tretton also leveled his sights at the Wii and Xbox 360.

"They're starting to run out of steam now in terms of continuing to be relevant in 2011 and beyond," he insisted.

"I mean, you've gotta be kidding me. Why would I buy a gaming system without a hard drive in it? How does this thing scale? Motion gaming is cute, but if I can only wave my arms six inches, how does this really feel like I'm doing true accurate motion gaming?"

Sony, on the other hand, is all set, he claimed.

"If you're really going to sustain technology for a decade, you have to be cutting edge when you launch a platform.

"Here we are four years into the Playstation 3, and it's just hitting its stride. We'll enjoy a long downhill roll behind it because the technology that was so cutting edge in 2006 is extremely relevant today and is conspicuously absent in our competition."

According to a recent sales report, the global Wii install base currently sits at 75.5 million, with PlayStation 3 at 43.4 million and the Xbox 360 on 42.9 million.

As for Nintendo's babysitting tool, that's now sold around 145 million units, while Sony's PSP sits at 67 million.

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  • Dolly #1 1 year ago

    What a Benny.

  • Sid-Nice #2 1 year ago

    What a tool.

  • Dreddnaught #3 1 year ago

    "Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool," Tretton said in a bruising chat with CNN, "something young kids do on airplanes, but no self-respecting 20-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that."

    Can't argue with that really.

    I once whipped my GameBoy Micro out in a shopping centre as I waited on the wife picking something from the nth shop we had seen, and a bunch of girls half my age walked by and laughed at me.

    I never dared take my DS out anywhere after that.

  • synreaper55729 #4 1 year ago

    Someone has a big ego

  • eviroboy #5 1 year ago

    Let me guess, SONY products are pure win though?

    At least on the 360 I don't have to wait half an hour to play a game due to incessantly large updates, I like my PS3 but tbh I only use it to play PS3 exclusives. Multi format games are just 'better' on the 360.

  • Triggerhappytel #6 1 year ago

    No no no, please just stop and shut up Mr. Tretton. Talk about your own products, but for god's sake there's no need for snide remarks at the competition!

    "Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool," Tretton said in a bruising chat with CNN, "something young kids do on airplanes, but no self-respecting 20-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that."

    Assuming he means the DS family (considering the Game Boy brand hasn't been around for about 10 years now?), Sony would fucking love to have sold as many PSPs and/or PS3s as Ninty have sold DSs, so why not just shut the hell up? Is he just worried that the DS is poised to become the biggest selling games console ever?

    "They're starting to run out of steam now in terms of continuing to be relevant in 2011 and beyond," he insisted.

    Yeah; MS must be shitting themselves with only 10 million + Kinect sales. Why not tell us how many units the Move Starter Pack has sold again?


    NB - I am a PS3-only owner, but hate it when any exec talks bullshit like this. They should know better.

  • Psychotext #7 1 year ago

    They never, ever learn.

    @Dreddnaught: Lacking self confidence much? I pity you. I've used my DS all over the place and never got more than I second glance. I suspect the girls may literally have been laughing at you.

  • Apaar #8 1 year ago

    Self-respect is overrated anyway.

  • joelstinton #9 1 year ago

    Isn't the PSP a 'game boy experience'.? I'm 25 and have a DS.

  • dagas #10 1 year ago

    CEO of company X calls product from company Y XYZ. Nothing new there.

  • Cheddar99 #11 1 year ago

    Take that, competitors. The ps3 is no more technologically relevant than the 360, they're both outdated tech by todays standards.

  • Psychotext #12 1 year ago

    Oh, and as always, Penny Arcade said it best: http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/81765...

  • Dreddnaught #13 1 year ago

    @Psychotext

    Well this was before the DS came along and Nintendo lowered their standards so that every pastel coloured top and beige trouser wearing metrosexual could play simple games and consider themselves a gamer.

    I don't doubt that the situation is different nowadays, and that I'd get away with playing a DS openly in public, but even still, that formative experience damaged me.

    :(

    Besides, I bet LOADS of kids have DS's in the playground, so why would they look at you funny ?

  • QotSAfan #14 1 year ago

    Did he just refer to the multi-media entertainment centre as a gaming system?!?!?!

  • Psychotext #15 1 year ago

    "Besides, I bet LOADS of kids..."

    I'm in my 30s my good man.

  • Lunastra78 #16 1 year ago

    "Our product GOOD, other product BAD". Executives take turns to say this.

  • Dreddnaught #17 1 year ago

    And no sense of humour ?.....

  • miiiguel #18 1 year ago

    This is the sort of attitude that got them in last place this gen.

    Have to agree with this, problem with the way Sony treated Playstation brand was they were so successful (like near-monopoly success with PS2) that they thought they didn't have to do anything, just call the box (or anything for that matter) Playstation and win.

  • redcrayon #19 1 year ago

    @Dreddnaught

    I'm in my 30s and have been using a DS on my commute for years. As you get older, you begin to care less what other people think.

    Besides, as I've said here before, people who aren't gamers see all gadgets as just generic man-toys. You don't get extra kudos for using a PSP over a DS on the train. Everyone is too knackered to care.

  • Feanor #20 1 year ago

    The RSX was pretty crap even in 2006, so it's not cutting-edge now.

  • dirtysteve #21 1 year ago

    Jack Tretton and people like him - This is why games are advertised with hip-hop regardless of genre. This is why everything has to be 'gritty' and 'in your face'. This is why the assumption exists that there's always room for another military FPS.
    And most damningly of all, that man and his ilk are why games targeted at the adult demographic are often relentlessly dumbed down.

  • bad09 #22 1 year ago

    "The Nintendo DS is nothing more than a kids-only "babysitting tool", reckons Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton."

    Not true, I use the one Mrs bad09 owns to play Scrabble on the shitter.

    "They're starting to run out of steam now in terms of continuing to be relevant in 2011 and beyond,"

    Yeah but so is your machine now bow before the PC master race Jacko! ;)

  • miiiguel #23 1 year ago

    I'm in my 30s and have been using a DS on my commute for years. As you get older, you begin to care less what other people think.

    wow, we're on a roll here... that's totally right, I couldn't give a shit, but then again, maybe when I was 20 I did, can't realy remember. Anyway, you lot are talking so much sense I'm going to leave now and play video-games.

  • SeesThroughAll #24 1 year ago

    You really know how to attract a shitstorm, Jacky boy!

    When will some execs learn to shut up?

  • Dizzy #25 1 year ago

    I bet he was wearing a GT5 t-shirt.

  • Lexx87 #26 1 year ago

    What an utter cunt

  • Scimarad #27 1 year ago

    "Quick! We're getting too much sympathy because of the hackers!! Say something smug and annoying to piss everyone off again!!!"

  • Phantom_Dynamite #28 1 year ago

    DickHead, I love my 360 and Ps3 and I also have a DS, there all good systems I see more DS's in the hand of over 40's than Kids when im out and about.

    MS have improved loads on last gen can the same be said about Sony. I have more admiration for people when they respect the compatition, instead of blantant trollish comments which you expect from a 12 year old fan boy.

  • aldo_14 #29 1 year ago

    "Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool," Tretton said in a bruising chat with CNN, "something young kids do on airplanes, but no self-respecting 20-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that."

    So...er... basically he is trying to attract new customers by insulting them?

  • Jay-ITFC #30 1 year ago

    "Here we are four years into the Playstation 3, and it's just hitting its stride."

    Hey your right - that's why my PS3 never sees the light of day. So what the fuck have you been doing for the past 4 years?

  • DrStrangelove #31 1 year ago

    If you want to be respected as a grown-up, you should play PSP. Make sure you have it with you at your next job interview. They will think you're determined, experienced and responsible. They will think you're too smart to waste precious money for something that's not cutting edge, unlike that guy with his pitiful DS, who should be babysitting rather.


    I'd love to see the look on his face when he finds out the PSP didn't outsell the DS quite as much as expected.

  • Dizzy #32 1 year ago

    I wonder what is best? A baby sitting tool or a paper weight?

  • DrStrangelove #33 1 year ago

    Also, I just remembered my PS3 doesn't feel so cutting-edge compared to my PC, and I doubt it will do better against my next PC in two or three years.

  • uknortherner2000 #34 1 year ago

    @aldo_14: "So...er... basically he is trying to attract new customers by insulting them?"

    Didn't some Nokia exec use the same sort of reasoning prior to the NGage launch? Something about the GBA being for kids and the NGage being for cool people, or some such shit. Yeah, whatever happened to the NGage?

  • M_of_the_sys #35 1 year ago

    "Elsewhere in the interview, Tretton also leveled his sights at the Wii and Xbox 360."

    Fanbait is successful.

  • bratmandu #36 1 year ago

    If i took my xbox network cable out of the router and stuffed it up my arse - it'd still have a better online service than a ps3.

  • epiazk #37 1 year ago

    Own neither, kind of inclined to agree with him though, surely the PS3 has more punch than the Xbox?

    I mean, at least on paper it looks that way. As for Nintendo and his opinions on that? Yah, totally. My little brother uses the Wii and more power to him, its a good market and not to be demeaned.

    Anyway, Pc for lief! /goes back to his baldurs gate ironman.

  • Markusdragon #38 1 year ago

    So basically, he's trying to SHAME people into buying his product now?

    What kind of screwball tactic is that?!

  • AdamAsunder #39 1 year ago

    Please stop posting this utter mind rot.

    This is not news and not worthy of anyone's time.

  • jambii267 #40 1 year ago

    Some of the best and most creative games of this generation have been on the DS, where the PSP is mostly hand me down ports and games I'd much rather play on consoles.

    Having a go at Nintendo' motion controls after blatantly copying it? Really? At least the Wii has games that use it well, and it doesn't look like a dildo.

    Cutting edge tech? Explain all the inferior PS3 versions of 360 games.

    Tretton, a man in need of a reality check, and a slap.
    Edited by jambii267 at 08/04/11 @ 22:22

  • ForozM #41 1 year ago

    Come'on people. What do you want him to say? That DS is great for the 'big boys' and that Wii and 360 are 'gaining momentum'? Whatever the truth is, he's one the opposite team.

    About the negs, the troll is strong with the Nintendorks.
    Edited by ForozM at 09/04/11 @ 23:29

  • RobotRocker #42 1 year ago

    Strong words from the biggest dust magnet manufacturer in the world.

  • RobTheBuilder #43 1 year ago

    What I took out of that was that this guy is a bit of a wanker. Oh and Sony think their products are better than the competition.

  • Ninou #44 1 year ago

    Until about 30 seconds ago I was considering buying a PSP tomorrow thanks to Sony's lowering of the price (here in France). I guess this is one 40-something that will now be sticking with his DSi/3DS 'baby-sitting' tools.

    Tretton, you're a fucking nob. Maybe Sony should be babysitting you instead of letting you spout shit in 'serious' interviews...

  • danathjo #45 1 year ago

    Oh Jack, Jacky boy...I like you, you actually seem like a nice guy from what i've in past conferences but please don't go down the shit slinging route. I'm 30, grew up on Nintendo, i'm also way past the age of caring about how i'd look pulling out a DS.

    Know your audience man, love myself some Sony and Nintendo either way but stuff like this just makes you look like a cock.

  • handsonhips101 #46 1 year ago

    He is talking shit and this is a fanboy baiting article. However: I will say this.

    I always see ds's in the hands of small kids, girls or old people.

    I work in a hospital and oldest can't get enough of the ds whilst ill in bed.

    My young cousins and colleagues kids all have ds's.

    My personal experience sees the psp in hands of 20 something males.
    Me: I've owned both and sold both.

  • customfirmware #47 1 year ago

    what a fool. please go back and work on some features that playstation users want and stop chatting shit!!!!!.( cross game chat xbox users?? what a good feature that is. )

  • Whitster #48 1 year ago

    Personally i'd love the Sun/Daily Mail to pick up on this, I can see the headline now 'Sony Spokesman Suggests Parents Use Videogames to Babysit'. That be karma.

  • Gojiratron #49 1 year ago

    " Motion gaming is cute, but if I can only wave my arms six inches, how does this really feel like I'm doing true accurate motion gaming?"

    Move his arms only six inches?

    Is he a tyrannosaurus rex?


    You can file this one under "fuckwit." There may be a lot of insubstantial guff on the DS but there's some shit hot "proper" games as well such as Order of Ecclesia, Chrono Trigger, Contra 4, Bangai-O Spirits etc.

  • riseer #50 1 year ago

    Well hes right..who in the hell plays their ds in public?The 360 has no games this year just shovelware on kinect.He's not a tool just stating simple facts.I know the xbots wanna cry because their console has no games this year..oh yea gears and forza..yea whatever

  • snowdog #51 1 year ago

    Just sounds like inane rantings of a rabid fanboy to me. Love Nintendo or hate them you've got to give them immense credit for their ridiculously successful company philosophy from 2004 onwards - release a console with comparatively low spec hardware to keep production and retail costs down so that it's affordable to the masses and combine that with a USP that separates it from the competition. If Sony decide to release the NGP at a higher price point than the 3DS then you'll see a similar 70/30 marketshare (give or take a few percent) in the 3DS's favour in all territories, the same as last gen.

  • riseer #52 1 year ago

    The fact is most of you ride the M$ cock.Quite funny because Microsofts big wigs talk more shit then anyone.Yet yall comment on jack because he slings dirt at M$ and nintendo.It's funny how he ruffed up all yalls feathers like that. Gj Jack!

  • inutaihanyou #53 1 year ago

    There's a lot of crap slinging, i feel sad for the gamers who own all consoles and have to be squeezed in between CEO's of rival competing factions. Like me :p

  • redcrayon #54 1 year ago

    Microsofts big wigs talk more shit then anyone
    yall comment on jack because he slings dirt at M$ and nintendo

    Paging Ironoman!

    The fact is most of you ride the M$ cock
    It's funny how he ruffed up all yalls feathers like that

    The lack of self-awareness it has is astounding.

  • Mister-Wario #55 1 year ago

    You know, if I hadn't received a PSP for Christmas I would have bought and enjoyed a DS for many years. And I'm 19 now. Who cares what other people think? People can play what they like on what console they like.

    And I loved my Wii despite it not having a hard drive because I liked the games for it. And you know what? I bought a 2GB SD card for it and that's solved all my storage needs on the Wii. So what if it doesn't have a hard drive? We managed perfectly well for years without them and its absence is admittedly unusual today. But the Wii is a different console to yours, and that's fine. You can have some great experiences even on less powerful hardware. Moreover, the comments on the Move are all well and good, but how many games are supporting it or utilising it well? Two big titles on the system- Portal 2 and Bioshock Infinite, both games that would benefit from it- have said flat-out it won't support Move. Ironically. their latest title, Playstation Move Heroes, utilises exactly the same type of waggle this guy is slamming.

    This guy's comments on PS3 may be true, but I don't see why these sorts of comments have to slag everyone else off. It's petty and makes me dislike the person- and in turn the company- doing the slagging. Let each console stand on its own merits: they all do different things very well, and their comments don't do much to detract from the fact both Nintendo's home and portable consoles are outselling Sony's.

  • coolbritannia #56 1 year ago

    It finally happened, I can't be bothered to comment, aside from to comment on how I can't be bothered to comment.

    P.S. Was I not meant to play my DS in public then?

  • gjgjg #57 1 year ago

    Someone's going for a Kotick award

  • _LarZen_ #58 1 year ago

    If I had seen a grown man play Pokémon on the airplaine I would think what a fucking retard......

  • chessboxer #59 1 year ago

    I hope I don't get too drunk one night and end up pulling one of these famales.

  • uknortherner2000 #60 1 year ago

    Remember: Service is my Lift. Quality is my extended Middle Finger. Utilise the Paypal big profit payment fast.

    Yes, all this badly-written spam has given me brain damage. :(

  • Collymilad #61 1 year ago

    Wow Sony went back to being dicks quickly after their 6 month period of humility, didn't they?

    The PS3 is great but shit like this puts me off owning one.

  • Ryze #62 1 year ago

    PS3 lacked RAM by 2005 standards when a low spec PC needed 512MB just to avoid it chugging.

    The PS3 has 256MB of main memory, and it shows.

    In 2011 it's laughable. The web browser's shockingly limited abilities, and lack of Move pointer support are one example. Install and load time on many games are another.

    But yes - games-wise, Sony's been given a huge boot up the arse by its competitors, and the decent games are coming thick and fast.

    Can't wait for the next gen of hardware and games (Rage, Bioshock, GTA V and beyond...), and consoles with AT LEAST 1GB RAM.

    Ideally 2-4GB.

    Plus faster read access from their storage devices, and 60fps @ 1080p, with way-better-than-Crysis standard visuals.

    PS3 is good, but it's old, and while it's using a 2x BD-ROM drive, Nvidia RSX and 256MB RAM, 360 has no problems matching it in terms of games, I'm afraid.

  • ThePissartist #63 1 year ago

    I'm 31, I would feel full of win with a 3DS on a plane.

    Win here, win there, win, win everywhere.

    [link url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg
    ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg
    [/link]

  • WizenWolfBain #64 1 year ago

    The Playstation experience is definitely up to date and relevant. We make sure of that, with ridiculously large updates that are mandatory downloads every few weeks. Our experience is far superior to anything out at the moment - that is except for the fact that the Xbox looks as good, if not better than the PS3 with all multiplatform games. And any new mid-range PC could blow the PS3/Xbox and it's ghetto GPU/5400rpm HDD back to 2004.

    The Playstation 3 is also on the forefront of online gaming, having finally copied almost all of Xbox Live's features - after playing catchup for 5 years. We finally introduced an amazing and completely unique feature called "PARTAYYY CHAT".... It's revolutionary. You can play one game... And your friends can play a different game... And guess what?.... YOU CAN BOTH CHAT TO EACHOTHER WITH OUR AWESOME NEW SONY TECHNOLOGY!

    If that wasn't enough, we have also revolutionized the controller market. Never before has anyone released a motion controller that looks like a stick with buttons.... It has simply never been done... But guess what.... We just released the (Wiimote) Wand that does all that and more!

    Finally, we have 3D covered. So if you're (stupid) a new adopter of (redundant) awesome technology, prepare to be amazed by our completely mediocre and unoriginal 3D exclusives that are sure to hit the shelves just in time to attempt to counter any competitor's release... And the holiday seasons, of course... To catch our blatantly more (chavvy) "older" demographic.

    EDIT: This post would've made sense of Eurogamer actually enabled basic HTML text functions like and whatnot... Oh well.

    It's funny that PS fanchavs used to boast that the original Xbox was a "super large brick", and may have had better hardware/performance, but the PS2 had the "games".

    Now they have changed tack by saying "the Xbox may offer a better experience with online gaming, competitive gaming, multiplatform games and many racing/FPS games, but the PS3 has better hardware".

    It makes me chuckle. Because i just sit there with a smug grin on my face, knowing that the original Xbox was a gem, and the fact that few chavvy retards had access to it made the experience better. Now they're either desperately clutching on to the PS3, or grabbing the nearest 360 and singing it's praises, and the Xbox has grown in to a behemoth that nobody ever expected. Meanwhile, the PC has snuck so far ahead with DX11, sandybridge, DDR3, SSD's and general future proofing, that it simply owns anything that the 360/PS3 have to offer.
    Edited by WizenWolfBain at 09/04/11 @ 03:13

  • Snake_2011 #65 1 year ago

    I can see what he means in a way Nintendo is more for kids imo.

  • Kami #66 1 year ago

    The man just needs a nice big mug of shut the f*** up.

    Nintendo have crapped all over Sony the past few years, and the last thing Sony want right now is this year at E3 for Nintendo to kick off a next-gen rush. Microsoft have taken a big hit on the 360, but they were always intending to - market penetration was their goal and it has worked, and Kinect advertising has admittedly done a hell of a job...

    You'd think Tretton would have learned to keep his lips together and not make a peep. Clearly, this guy just likes the sound of his own BS, even when no-one else believes in it. Game Boy Experience? Oh come on - it's like the music argument recently, this is 2011, not 2001! Get with the times already...

    It'd be funny if it didn't make Sony look incredibly old-fashioned and behind the times...

  • Genji #67 1 year ago

    I use mine in public. It's great for practicing my Japanese writing, on account of the nice and large touch screen.

    People don't seem to notice. And if they did, what the fuck do I care if they laugh at me? They can fuck off back to playing Angry Birds on their identical iPhones. Because launching cute animals into other cute animals is *so* much more grown up if you do it on an iPhone.

    As for the Sony CEO: it takes a small, small man to insult potential customers like that. I think I'll be fine without an Xperia Play, thanks very much.

  • Osahi #68 1 year ago

    I'm a Sony-fanboy, but hell, what a morron.

    I've got a DS next to my PSP and when I'm on a trip I rather take my DS then the PSP. Apart from some hit games like Loco Roco, Patapon, Valkyria II, there isn't much fun coming out the latest years. On the DS on the other hand I'm never short of a game I havent finished yet but want to (Okamiden, tons of RPG's, ...)

    As for home consoles. PS3 works hours, Wii catches dust except when a rare great game is released, like Kirby most recently

  • Freek #69 1 year ago

    Such a strange view, since Nintendo's marketing has created the image that it's okay for adults to have a DS. That's what all the TV commercials focus on. And as a result you see adults playing with the DS in public. men, women, doesn't matter. It's the PSP that's still stuck with the hardcore gamer image. And that's probably deliberate, that's the market Sony is after.
    Wich makes Tretton's comments all the more strange.

  • Cloud-Strife #70 1 year ago

    20 something here...over 70 hours clocked in on Pokemon Black since I bought it. Nintendo handhelds > Sony handhelds.

    Besides since when can they talk all they do is go for the fanciest kit possible, and then whenever the competition comes up with a new idea they steal it. Analogue sticks, rumble, motion control...all showed up on sony platforms after nintendo.

    They need to pull their heads out, actually they can keep them where they are, as long as they stfu. :)

  • RodHull #71 1 year ago

    Patronising arse. And these sales figures confuse me. I thought the 360 had hit 50 million?

  • Inmediasress #72 1 year ago

    This kind of mud slinging is soooo boring.
    They should arrange Mortal Kombat style matches with fatalities between rival CEOs.

  • anomagnus #73 1 year ago

    Well, this stype of ass hattery is par from the course from all companies these days.

    But the man should have more sense. Both the Wii and the 360 are ready to be replaced, and Sony could find itself left behind again, as its competitors leap to the next generation of consoles.

    I own both the 360 and PS3, and not since the SNES have i expericenced a gaming console like the 360.

  • curtlikesmeat #74 1 year ago

    Some strange comments here, who gives a shit what other people think when you "whip out" your DS?

    Also, arrogant man is arrogant - the PS3 was shit for the first couple of years and is only now on level footing (although I buy all multi platform on PS3 now due to the 360 jet engine simulator which noisely runs over all games I play on it).

  • kobashi #75 1 year ago

    what a fcuking twat!

    I am 28 and get out my DS/3DS on planes, trains etc.

  • Whitster #76 1 year ago

    To be honest anyone ashamed to be seen gaming in public, regardless of console, needs to take a good long look at their mental state, and why they secretly lothe their passtime based on an outdated idea of gamer stereotypes?
    Edited by Whitster at 09/04/11 @ 10:00

  • redcrayon #77 1 year ago

    @_Larzen_
    If I had seen a grown man play Pokémon on the airplaine I would think what a fucking retard......

    I'm sure that, like most grown adults, they wouldn't give a flying fuck what the judgemental, illiterate idiot peering over their seat thinks.

  • redcrayon #78 1 year ago

    @Brappo

    You registered on EG to post fanboy crap like that?

    Taking ANY device out of your pocket to play games on it or just toy with it in a social situation is fairly rude, and saying 'I'm not interested in what's going on here', whether it's a PSP/iPhone etc. While I'm on the subject, that goes for people who constantly reply to texts while talking to me too. Anyone who regards a person right in front of them as secondary to their gadget/facebook/whatever, whether male or female, is being rude, no need to put women on a pedestal.

    When you're just killing time on the bus/train etc, who cares. I certainly don't feel cooler for using my PSP instead of the DS.
    Edited by redcrayon at 09/04/11 @ 10:30

  • ProtoformX #79 1 year ago

    It wouldn't surrpise me if people like him are contractually obliged to spout stuff like that for shareholders' benefit.

  • Mister-Wario #80 1 year ago

    WizenWOlfBain: But what about the games? There are many games on consoles that are console exclusives and that I want to play. If I got a PC then I would gain some exclusives but lose out on the ones I really want to play: all the power in the world is useless if it doesn't result in something I want to play on. And what about the simplicity of setting up a console? That has to be something worth considering. Moreover, I don't find the weekly downloads to be that annoying. Xbox games require me to update often enough.

    And regarding the highly-vaunted power of PCs, which I'm not denying: has the inferior technology of consoles resulted in terrible games on those consoles? It's not the power that matters, it's what you do with it.

  • icematt12 #81 1 year ago

    Saw the title, felt it was a "head in hands" moment seeing how I prefer PS3. What a shocker, companies should fear the opposition not ridicule them.

    Early 20s, spent the morning palying Pokemon White (prefer Fire Red so far however). Add that to your stats, Jack.

  • jjadi #82 1 year ago

    If he honestly believes one of the biggest selling consoles of all time is only a babysitting tool then he is massively out of touch with his own market.

  • bemaniac #83 1 year ago

    Oh noes I got fanboy baited

  • pap #84 1 year ago

    Hehe.

    Doesn't really understanding proper gamers, does he?

    In his defence, I honestly thought I'd spend more time on the PSP than the DS. The DS games were great updated versions of old classics ( Mario Kart DS = best ever Mario Kart ). PSP games were just awkward controlling PS2 games.

  • siro #85 1 year ago

    So, I shouldn't buy a new system because it doesn't have a harddrive? :)

  • davisorle #86 1 year ago

    Post deleted at 15:13:14 09-05-2012

  • Dannyboy1100 #87 1 year ago

    So what if the ds is for kids? That's a large share of the gaming market tbh.

    You don't see much kids walking round with osos

  • Dannyboy1100 #88 1 year ago

    psps*

  • WizenWolfBain #89 1 year ago

    Wow, i did have a lot of bile to spill about the PS3... Serves me right for even wandering on to EuroGamer clutching a bottle of Jim Beam and a kebab.

    D'oh!

    Anyway... PS3 rage aside. Someone above mentioned that they would judge someone if they whipped out a DS in public. I find this to be more of a reflection on the person judging than the person being judged. I've used my DS on the bus, on the train, in the park, in queues and in all sorts of situations to burn time (and get my Victini and Dewott fighting fit). And I'm a 21 year old male. As far as i have noticed, nobody gives a crap. They're usually wrapped up in books (which, by the way, are usually extremely generic Dan Brown scribblings or homoerotic Vampire nonsense). If someone ever did feel the need to snigger or comment, they would be met with the subtle elevation of my middle finger, followed by a satisfied smile, as a lower my gaze back to my dual screens of leisure.

    And i still maintain that PS3's are for ill-informed chavs who think that Drake's Fortune and Killzone aren't completely generic rip offs and stereotypes of the genre they're trying to portray... But that's another story. Sony are just a little butthurt that a company with less experience than them has sold more consoles, more Kinect, more subscriptions/downloads and has access to more sequels and better performing multiplatform games. Sony also gets thrashed by a "kids babysitting company" that makes consistently popular hardware and games that make the PSPooP look like the Nokia Ngage.

    Ahh well, diddums.
    Edited by WizenWolfBain at 09/04/11 @ 14:04

  • gudnikristinn #90 1 year ago

    We cater to those of high stature. Are you high stature, because you are holding a DS, the tool of the bottom feeder.
    You should buy a Sony product,the tool of a tool.

  • 8bitMofo #91 1 year ago

    Another joke article to see us through the weekend.

  • twyford #92 1 year ago

    "Our view is that the DS sells in numbers that we can only dream of matching and allows Nintendo to make a profit per unit that we'd sell our own grandmothers for" said Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton.

    Honestly, what is it with Sony, said before but all they seem to do is talk down the opposition rather than talking up their own products, almost as if they know they're beat.

  • jag10 #93 1 year ago

    lets all take our ps3's back now.

  • DRE4DNOUGHT #94 1 year ago

    Wow, how does he know so little about his target demographic?

  • Progguitarist #95 1 year ago

    Caring about this nonsense probably makes you as bad as the shit slinging monkey.

  • silversun #96 1 year ago

    Objection! One of the best games ever made is on the DS.
    So if capcom reading this, is its true that the second ace attorney investigations game is not coming over to us or europe , what the heck you thinking?

    Hopefully the 3ds one, with layton will make it over though.

  • higgins78 #97 1 year ago

    Perfect. He throws the line out and everyone takes it the bait. If the DS is a "babysitting tool" then what the heck is the PS3...something geared towards the more sophisticated man? Give me a break! I myself own both a DS Lite, 3DS, Wii AND PS3 so I have no complaints. However, give me a break if you believe games which offer swearing and blood are anything more "mature" than what the Wii/DS offers.

  • Murton #98 1 year ago

    "Here we are four years into the Playstation 3, and it's just hitting its stride. We'll enjoy a long downhill roll behind it because the technology that was so cutting edge in 2006 is extremely relevant today and is conspicuously absent in our competition."

    Very true, but to consumers the hardware isn't important in the slightest, it's a means to an end, it's the software side that the consumers see every day and as long as that software continues to roll out the hardware used to run will remain relevant, I think to say that the 360 is somehow less relevant that the PS3 because the hardware is out of date is disingenuous. It's less able in certain fields but primarily these are games machines and both have some great games and that's what's important.

    And speaking of software many developers still seem strangely averse to working with the PS3 hardware properly and simply release ported code that doesn't work (see Fallout 3/NV and Black Ops) or isn't properly optimised leading to differences in technical performance, that alone sort of proves the point that hardware isn't as important this gen as it was last.

  • Kami #99 1 year ago

    "Here we are four years into the Playstation 3, and it's just hitting its stride. We'll enjoy a long downhill roll behind it because the technology that was so cutting edge in 2006 is extremely relevant today and is conspicuously absent in our competition."

    This does intrigue me somewhat... say Nintendo do, as we all expect, kick off the Next Gen this year - and Microsoft we already know are looking at it, they're staffing for it. That's two companies - one we know is preparing for it, the other we suspect is deadly ready to go public about it.

    Sony - well, no-one will wait for them. The PS3 isn't any more or less cutting edge than the 360 - it was a pig of a machine for all concerned and Sony need a proper kick in the scrotum for making such a soddingly shit machine for devs to get to grips with. It's aged well, yes, but then - so has the 360, because devs could get more juice from the kit more easily. The costs that are still there is because they sourced specific (and expensive) parts for it. That's not something to be proud of - the fact they still cost more this many years on is a failure.

    Thing is, how can Sony move on? Tretton et al are so stuck in the past they remain in their own little bubble, and we look at them and are compelled to respond with a mixture of anger, apathy and sympathy. This isn't the sign of a company at the top of their game - it's the sign of a company that has lost their way, a company that is so narcissistic they believe themselves more important than ever, a company that sees fit to abuse the competition - a competition that has shamed, embarrassed and humiliated them for years.

    It's the bad old Sony from the early PS3 days, the bad old Sony we were led to believe was dead.

    And it's that bad old Sony that will scupper whatever hopes they have for competing in the upcoming next-gen race. It's a bit sad really, but I sort of admire their persistence...even if it makes no sense.
    Edited by Kami at 09/04/11 @ 21:19

  • Murton #100 1 year ago

    "Sony - well, no-one will wait for them. The PS3 isn't any more or less cutting edge than the 360 - it was a pig of a machine for all concerned and Sony need a proper kick in the scrotum for making such a soddingly shit machine for devs to get to grips with."

    Sorry but that's bollocks, it's not 2007 anymore and the PS3 is now no harder to code for than any other console, it's a myth put out by developers who are too lazy to learn, we saw the exact same thing in the early days of the PS2 and in fact every other console and games machine since the dawn of time. Developers simply hate new hardware because it means they have learn new ways of doing the things they've been doing already for so long, the only reason everyone says that the PS3 is difficult is because MS decided to go with the more familiar PowerPC architecture and DirectX as opposed to designing their own kits from scratch and therefore made it look difficult by comparison, but should that really be an excuse? especially considering how talented some of these people are.

    A lot of people in the world do things that are far more difficult than developing video games, such as heart surgery, upholding the law and fighting in wars, but you never hear these people complain that their jobs are hard and then use that as an excuse to do a shit job of it the way that some developers do.

  • The_Bloody_Kettle #101 1 year ago

    Played Pokemon on the train today.
    I'm a self respecting 20 something, who has no issue with playing it.

    I use trains all the time and DS's are as common as books among adults. Rare, but hardly something to poke fun at.

  • MegaCadet #102 1 year ago

    Funny how he made that comment about Xbox 360's that don't have HDDs.

    I hope he realizes that the 360 "is so inferior" that it doesn't need one to out perform the PS3 versions of the same game.

  • tnman #103 1 year ago

    What a pile of crap. At least some marketing drivel you can half believe - this is just insulting to the demographic they want to sell to.

  • Kami #104 1 year ago

    Murton, look at it this way - which machines have the most games? Devs aren't going to be that persistent with a console unless (a) they're tied into it in some way - i.e. in-house or funded by Sony themselves or (b) it offers something the competition can't - ease of use, gimmicky crap etc. On both counts, Sony failed.

    Devs are still businesses - making a machine deliberately obtuse isn't and never has worked. I don't doubt the PS3 has more to give, but by the time they get whatever magical properties from it they've been promising now for the last few years - we'll be into the next gen. It's a waste of time, money and tech - and some parts are deliberately locked out for devs, and reserved for in-house stuff. Again, that won't make your machine popular.

    Sony failed this generation to create a console that everyone wanted - they dubbed it a "media center", well bollocks to that I have my media center, my PS3 is for games only. On that note, Blu-Ray. What an expensive bloody mess for so little gain. Yes, it didn't flop against its rivals like Betamax or the Minidisc - but it's flopping when compared to it's predecessor, the humble DVD. That's gotta hurt even more. And then of course there was the controller issues, the PR disasters past and present and a distinct lack of content.

    We shouldn't make excuses for Sony. For years, with the PS1 and PS2 they gave us what we wanted - slick machines with top-notch content. Cheap, cheerful and lovely. The PS3 was expensive, unwieldy for so long and just a pain in the ass.

    I hope with the PSP2 and the PS4, we'll see a Sony that moves on from the last few years of troubles and tries desperately to get back to what it did so well for so many years. The problem is, Tretton - and other Sony execs - are relics of that era, and their continued presence and continued slurry of bullshit PR doesn't give anyone hope for the future.

    Sony screwed up. Tretton needs to get that message and shut up, because this is exactly the sort of shit that wound us up pre-PS3, and put a lot of tech-savvy early adopters off. That's a problem for Sony... and one that they'll probably spend a few more years trying to put right.

    edit; And as I said, I suspect the real reason the Wii and 360 are "running out of steam" (although that is the wrong choice of wording) is purely because there is now that sense of looking to the new consoles, the next-gen. Sony need to be ready for it - because Nintendo and Microsoft aren't going to wait for them to catch up. The PS3 has done some wonderful stuff - but it was overly ambitious from the outset, and it really is time now to let it go... and learn from those mistakes.

    With any luck, the next Playstation home console will be amazing...
    Edited by Kami at 10/04/11 @ 04:30

  • Mentat_Idaho #105 1 year ago

    I'm 37 and own a DS and a PSP - I prefer the DS... And what's more I don't give a flying fuck who see's me playing it in public.

  • ShiroBen #106 1 year ago

    Two words, Mr Tretton: grow up.

  • wayne997 #107 1 year ago

    or and its had its pants pulled right down and spancked ie hacked to death on live all games are fucked because of cheating cunts

  • Murton #108 1 year ago

    @Kami - but the PS3 isn't obtuse, it just seems that way because MS went with DirectX 9 rather than a custom API as other consoles do, of course devs are going to take that much easier route rather than learn a new set of APIs because it's human nature to want to get more out than you put in effort-wise.

    Should that be an excuse for not making the best game you can? Of course not. By and large we have parity now but some developers still lack the skills to make a functioning game on the PS3, you need only look at Fallout 3 and New Vegas to see that that particular engine has received exactly zero work on optimisation for the platform.

    As for starting the next gen, I wouldn't hold your breath as it's just like this gen it won't start until Sony are ready. Nintendo have said countless times that they're "operating in a difference market" to MS and Sony and therefore don't see them as competition, so we write them off as following some other track already. MS on the other hand are going to want to get as much as they can out of the 360 and then try to usher in a next gen before Sony are ready much like they did with the 360 this gen. The problem there is that developers d0n't like or want want new hardware, even if it's going to use established APIs like DX9 and have always resisted change, for the first few months many of the third party games on 360 were upscaled ports of original Xbox and PS2 releases, it was simply too expensive to do HD properly for one console so until the PS3 finally arrived many devs just didn't bother, we'll see exactly the same with the next Xbox while it waits for the PS4.

    Next gen starts when the whole industry makes the jump, not after the first one to do so.

  • skuzzbag #109 1 year ago

    Sony statement about how gamers are stupid shocka!

  • mr2ange #110 1 year ago

    Jesus, look at all the 360 fan boy's in the thread...

    Seriously Pathetic...

  • GreyBeard #111 1 year ago

    Getting wound up by this is like getting enraged by pro-wrestling.

  • digitalash #112 1 year ago

    Then why is it that 360 games are still commonly better looking than the PS3 versions?

    Next time Sony, don't forget to put in a few MB of Alpha dedicated RAM along with your fancy/strange processor.

  • Mister-Wario #113 1 year ago

    digitalash: but DO they look significantly better? Really? Review scores and tech comparisons, like the ones on this site, suggest that the differences are largely negligible.

  • Riggers #114 1 year ago

    "Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool," Tretton said in a bruising chat with CNN, "something young kids do on airplanes, but no self-respecting 20-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that."

    I spent 7 hours playing Professor Layton on the plane to the Caribbean, and I'm 30 odd. I'll happily abandon any pretence of self respect for a fun gaming experience and decent battery life...

  • Jay1983 #115 1 year ago

    Im 27, i own a DSLite, a DSi, a 3DS and a PSP (among other things)
    Most of my games time is spent on the DS or 3DS.
    I have grown up with Nintendo, and i will continue to play their games. I cant see that happening with Sony.

    This kind of Nintendo bashing reminds me of when PS3 was first released, a Sony exec said the Wii was too expensive. (The PS3 was still £425 in the UK at that time)

    Still, way to go Sony for slagging of your potential market.

  • Weezer #116 1 year ago

    And this is precisely why I have come to hate Sony. Arrogant gobshites. I have a PS3 but it's very rarely on, and his tit- headed comments make me want to sell it - just to spite the fucking goon. I love my DS and I'm probably the oldest on on here. Annoyingly.

  • Whitster #117 1 year ago

    @Murton

    Your comments are true, but not entirely realistic. Yes, developers shouldn't be lazy in porting games, but the decision probably rarely rests with them nowdays but the money men.

    Say you're developing a new IP, release is schduled for 6 months time, theres good community response, the critics are fawning over it and your publisher is spinning up the hype machine. Your 360 versions working fine but you're have trouble getting the PS3 version working properly, nothing game breaking just graphical and logistical niggles.

    So you go to your publisher/investors and say, we want an extra 6 months development time and an extra 500k budget to work the niggles out of the PS3 version. Publisher goe's to his accountants/analysts and runs it by, they say, what you mean the PS3 audience who still brought broken games like New Vegas and Black Ops in their droves, no chance. Publisher then comes back to you and says theres no business case for the delay or extra budget weighed against lost sales so we're putting out the buggy version and you can patch it later.

    Now I put this down to two key demographics:

    1) The fanboy gamer. Now I'm not trying to bait anyone in particular here, I own a PS3 and admit that the games that are fully optimised look and play fantasticly. However in most industries if a certian companys hardware was leading to inferior playback of software, i.e. a blu-ray player that only plays back up to 720i or an MP3 player that won't handle any quality above 128k, people would vote with their wallets. For some reason this doesn't happen in gaming and people strike up an unhealthy obsession with a console and foresake all others for it. Therefore rather than having the choice of buying the buggy or not buggy version by owning both PS3 and 360 they have to buy the PS3 version, leading publishers to believe that theres an audience for buggy PS3 ports.

    2) The mainstream gamer. I know its fashionable to blame the mainstream for the decline of gaming, but the fact is these people simply don't notice or care about these niggles like the hardcore do. They simply buy their game and take it home, chances are they don't look at reviews (outside of their prefered daily rags one) or format comparisions. They don't care if the PS3 version of Game X has signifcanly more screen tear or worse anti-alasing than the 360, they just want to shoot some muthas'.
    Edited by Whitster at 11/04/11 @ 09:29

  • Toothball #118 1 year ago

    I had another rant about this, but most of it has settled in this thread. One thing that it did remind me of was a story from a few months back where another Sony exec explaining that they were planning to target the PSP at a younger audience. Wonder why they thought that was a good idea? http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-0...

  • GaryStew1980 #119 1 year ago

    In their defence they are both older than the PS3 thanks to the massive delays in actually getting their console to the market. Then there was the delay getting quality games out on it other than exclusives because most developers couldnt be bothered using the substandard SDK sony released. While Nintendo(3DS) and MS(Kinect) have both released something fairly ground breaking in the last few months, Sony decided to release the Wii 2(Move). When it got its hoop kicked by Kinect there seemed to be a marketing ploy that Kinect was really expensive compared to Move, anyone ever priced Kinect(2 player out of the box with a game) and 2 sets of controllers for Move and the precision control with a game? yep it comes in €10 more expensive without a game because all move does is give you one control the camera and a demo disk.

    Considering the vast majority of games are released on both the 360 and the PS3 with the 360 versions of games still performing better both technically and sales wise than the PS3 versions on a regular basis.

    It's not all that long ago the PS3 didn't even have a proper voice chat function, PSN is free and you can tell by the quality of it. Although you pay for Live it is so far ahead of PSN i don't mind the couple of quid every month. Then there is the demos and game updates, is there a reason it seems to take 2-3 times as long for a demo on the PS3 to download compared to the 360 (both are the same size) when finally downloaded you then have to go waste more time installing it. So by the time you get the chance to play it, you have probably already played and finished the 360 demo. Why do i have to install games? Im looking at you MGS and GT5 in particular also installing games that you do not need to install on the 360. Lets not for get the updates arent they fun???

    Infairness to Sony they have got Bluray which is a huge advantage and fair play to them, I'm a massive fan of that tech, they also have Killzone, God of War and Uncharted loved KZ2 & 3, loved GoW, loved Uncharted 1 &2 and will probably love 3 but other than misguided purchases of MW2, Batman and FIFA 10 which i had for both consoles, both far superior on the 360 I have yet to buy another multiplatform game for the PS3.

    I wouldnt get too cocky just yet if i was Sony considering a large part of their customer base use the PS3 purely for Bluray.

  • BuckEntropy #120 1 year ago

    *yawn* Yeah it's all basically the same noise, and not to be taken seriously no matter which mouthpiece from whatever company it's from. And yet, as a pattern no one has ever delivered condescension and arrogance quite like Sony. The correlation to be seen in their zealot fanbase is surely no coincidence? So when they've been so phenomenally successful at dictating gamer legitimacy for so long, you can't really expect them to abandon the conceit unless they were at a point of outright defeat.
    Edited by BuckEntropy at 11/04/11 @ 10:35

  • StooMonster #121 1 year ago

    Murton: the PS3 is now no harder to code for than any other console, it's a myth put out by developers who are too lazy to learn

    Lazy devs? Sigh.

    Murton: the only reason everyone says that the PS3 is difficult is because MS decided to go with the more familiar PowerPC architecture

    Err... the PS3's Cell chip is the "familiar" PowerPC architecture too, as is the Wii, all three consoles of this generation are PowerPC.

    It's simple why PS3 is harder to develop for than Xbox 360 and it's not to do with Devs being lazy.

    Firstly, the Xbox's CPU has six threads that run PowerPC code, you can run the same code on any of the hardware threads; whereas the Cell has two threads that run PowerPC code and six SPE, not only are the SPE not full CPU core threads and are thus limited in utility (albeit fast) but they need a different programming language too.

    Secondly, the PS3 has half the memory of the Xbox (256MB versus 512MB) which means that memory management is an issue.

    Therefore it's additional hardware overhead that makes the PS3 harder to develop for -- i.e. less threads of consistent code plus memory limitations -- without even considering that RSX is less powerful than Xenos too.

  • geeza2020 #122 1 year ago

    CEO talks shite. Wheres the news?

  • radioactive_bumfluff #123 1 year ago

    What a nob, I had all 3 of this generations consoles, the one played the least was the PS3 and the only reason we used it was to play Worms from the PS1.

    I ended up selling my PS3 which I had for less than a year as it was crap and hate the contol pad!
    Edited by radioactive_bumfluff at 11/04/11 @ 11:22

  • zedzee #124 1 year ago

    With this generation of consoles and handhelds, it's fair to say a number of things:

    1. Sony have not had it all their way this time around; thanks to some early mistakes (delay in Euro launch, price, no BC/Other OS, Home debacle etc.)
    2. XBox 360 has become a standard for developers. It's the Spectrum to the PS3's Commodore 64.
    3. 3DS is being swiftly perceived as a 'gimmick' for the 3D and the launch line-up is mediocre.
    4. Nintendo have no idea what is after their current console.
    5. PSP failed only because of the medium (UMD) device used and Sony failing to provide it better support.

    Tretton is right, I've never seen any teenager or older anywhere holding a DS - it's always children. PSP is not aimed at the same market.

  • simsini #125 1 year ago

    i wonder which console first had an inbuilt hard drive?

  • Architect_z #126 1 year ago

    Yeh but lets face it, Sony always comes out on top. Everyone in my school at the time said PSone would fail and the N64 would be the better console. Sony won that argument.

    Then everyone said the Gamecube is/and the Xbox will be better than the PS2 eventually. That never happened either.

    Then everyone now says Xbox 360 is the best. But lets face it, as games progress and get more advanced, PS3 can still handle them fine. Some 360 games require 2 (or sometimes more) discs for some games. Microsoft will have to release a new console to compete with the PS3.

    It's just the way it works, Sony always win. Not too happy about this myself, but i've stuck with them since the PSone and proven all of my friends wrong. ^_^

  • TonyHarrison #127 1 year ago

    I think Jack is getting fearful for his job. Sony's gaming fortunes have picked up in Europe and Asia lately, but in America (which would be Jack's territory) they're still lagging far behind.

    He'll need to do something to change that around before his Japanese overlords get tired of his failures, and I'm guessing he thinks this will help.

  • mcwildcard #128 1 year ago

    I agree with some of the comments on here in regards to Sony playing the long game, their tech is always overspecced at release, but is always far more future-proof than the opposition. That’s usually why their release consoles are so damned expensive.
    However, gobbing off like this just looks bad, MS were the worst culprits for it a couple of years back, but Tretton seems to want some of that scandal pie.
    I wish they’d all just shut the fuck up and get on with their jobs instead of arguing who’s dad is harder than who’s.

  • ronuds #129 1 year ago

    Reading that was painful.

  • FeralYouth #130 1 year ago

    Not even a good baby sitting tool, since the baby sitter hasn't even turned up in the 3DS's case.

    Haaaaaaaa.!!

  • man.the.king #131 1 year ago

    Given EG's habit of cherrypicking quotes for fanboy fodder, I would like to know whether this was what JT actually said and whether it was in response to any leading questions/traps.

    I could look at the interview myself but am at work and truthfully just felt a little lazy to go through the actual interview.

    Reading outraged comments is far more fun ;)

  • man.the.king #132 1 year ago

    If this is what Tretton actually said during the interview, then it appears that he has been taking lessons from Don Mattrick.

  • man.the.king #133 1 year ago

    @Collymilad

    "The PS3 is great but shit like this puts me off owning one. "

    Why do you care what some apparently inebriated moronish exec says? What does that have to do with the console platform itself?

    Did Don Mattrick ever put you off a 360? I am guessing no on that score.

    All execs talk shit. Apparently, contempt is only reserved for Sony execs on EG.

  • solidSnake04 #134 1 year ago

    this was utterly unecessary

  • Loghorn #135 1 year ago

    LMAO. What this douche doesn't realize is that he may be talking about his own beloved fans who might also own a Wii, DS, 3DS, or 360 besides a PS3 or a PSP. Those statements that Jack made just proves that him & Sony knows that the PS3 & the PSP aren't hot stuff like they think that they are, & are being very desperate by bashing both Nintendo & Microsoft because they know that they're more successful than they are!

    Wii & 360 are "irrelevant?" LMAO! Who's the one who had tons of billion dollar losses, who's the one that lost all of the profits that they made from both PS1 & PS2 with the PS3, who's the one who had to keep on cutting corners by doing constant price drops during launch, by bringing out more SKU's, bringing out more bundles, etc., just to play catch up with the 360 in sales? Oh, that's right, it's Sony! And not only that, but the "babysitting tool" which he's talking about have sold over 140 million units (the DS). PSP is nowhere near close to that!

    Plus him as well as PS3 fanboys don't exactly know what Microsoft & Nintendo have planned for this year or the next when it comes to exclusives, etc., & not only that, but the PS3 fanboys have proven to be wrong on that aspect year after year. So him & those that are bashing their products needs to keep their beaks shut.