Blizzard targets Warcraft gold sellers
Merchants threatened with PayPal ban.
Companies and individuals attempting to sell in-game gold to World of Warcraft users are being threatened with a PayPal ban in a new crackdown by developer Blizzard on real money trading in the MMO.
According to Curse, Blizzard complained about the practice to online money transfer service PayPal last week, claiming the gold sellers were guilty of IP violation.
PayPal has since started mailing out letters to larger merchants, threatening to block their accounts if they continued to trade.
The letter read, "If you feel your sales do not infringe upon the intellectual property rights of the Reporting Party, please complete the attached Objection to Infringement Report by January 21, 2011.
"Should you choose not to object to the report," it concluded, "you will be required to remove all World of Warcraft Merchandise from the website [url removed] in order to comply with the Acceptable Use Policy."
Regular Warcrafters should be more than familiar with the gold selling phenomenon, courtesy of spammy pop-ups constantly appearing in the chat window advertising the services.
For the uninitiated though, the practice sees dealers posing as players to sell on gold, characters, powerleveling, and other items – often obtained through hacks or bots - for real world cash.
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Blizzard are pushing their weight behind a crap argument here - IP infringement, WUT!? If PayPal respond to this it's more likely because they're hoping to get something back from Blizzard/Activision than for any legal reason (not even sure there is a solid legal reason).
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While on the one hand the spam was infuriating and they tended to strip mine entire areas of materials, I always noticed that availability of most major trade goods in the auction house plunged just hours after a ban wave. Gems, ore, leather, enchanting materials - the gold farmers did the dirty work that few others could be bothered to do and kept prices low enough that it was usually easier to buy and get on with the fun business of playing rather than spending tedious hours grinding out materials.
What the net effect of gold farmers on the game is I'm not entirely sure but I suspect that the byproduct might be economic conditions that make it easier to get on with having fun rather than turning WoW into (even more of a) second job.
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Dems the rules for a reason.
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I dont play MMOs, but I dont see an issue here. If someone wants to cheat and save time, that's their choice, there's no IP issues either. They aren't using someone elses IP to make another product etc, they're just offering to play a game for someone basically. And I don't really see it affecting other players either.
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Why would they do that, when they could just press a button and sell gold themselves, a la SOE?
I admire Blizzard for their stance on this - they want how far you progress in the game to be about how much time you put into the game, and not about how much spare cash you have. Plus, like someone said, gold farmers rarely "Farm" gold these days - they simply keylog people's accounts and completely strip them of up to six years of achievement by vendoring all of their equipment.
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If you want an example of the kind of dubious multi-million dollar businesses that get involved in this read up on IGE, and ponder what kind of people would find it extremely useful to be able to exchange money this way.
[link url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IGE
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First stage, eliminate the competition.
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Not much ethically wrong selling gold on some mmorpg, still Paypal thinks it needs to cut these people off from their service.
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"While on the one hand the spam was infuriating and they tended to strip mine entire areas of materials, I always noticed that availability of most major trade goods in the auction house plunged just hours after a ban wave. Gems, ore, leather, enchanting materials - the gold farmers did the dirty work that few others could be bothered to do and kept prices low enough that it was usually easier to buy and get on with the fun business of playing rather than spending tedious hours grinding out materials."
Heh. You just described the way world economy currrently works
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I know someone who got hacked and all of their stuff sold, so I'm very firmly against gold sellers 'cos they're just tossers. I report 'em as spammers every time I see them in chat.
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It's something that should have been dealt with from the start, now it's all too little too late for Blizzard. They'll never get rid of all of them.
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Gold farming imo turns WoW from a boring grinding game to one that can be enjoyable and more fun, I personally have bought gold inorder to better equip my warrior and buy mounts etc. I think WoW becomes majorly boring when you have to go out farming for 6+ hours a day just to get a half decent item. Fair enough some people enjoy farming all weekend but when u have kids and time is important, buying gold, like I said can make a boring game enjoyable!
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The next time you can't raid because one of your guildies got hacked YOU are responsible by supporting hackers by buying their stolen gold.
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It might not be common knowledge but IGE is pretty dominant. If paypal can block ige paypal that will cripple them.
Which is cool.
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In the past I have brought gold, I want to play the game, do the dungeons etc.. but with a job/wife/2 kids and everything else I do not have the time to make the gold farming, and you need gold to get the good stuff, I have only done it a couple of times to boost my profession so I can then make stuff to sell 'cheaply'..
So i have mixed options, hacked account bad, selling the gold..meh, If it was a real issue then blizz would have stopped it ages ago, its like the 'war on drugs' .. it will never end, and they don't want it too..
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And "does anyone whos played wow for more than a month or so not buy gold? i am pretty sure everyone has done it/does it" is such a falsehood is laughable. In 4+ years of playing WoW I've never bought gold. None of my guildmates have bought gold, and some have been playing since launch. Stop trying to justify it to yourself.
So I applaud this ban.
If nothing else maybe we'll see less retarded gold buying spam in /2
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I've recently quit WoW but damn, why would anybody even spend their money that way? Up to level 84 I got over 7k gold, just gathering stuff while questing. Getting money is very, very easy these days.
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You cannot 'admire' Blizzards stance on this - they allow most 'banned' activities to go on for eons and then have a crackdown once in a while. In the past they've shown massive double-standards by not blocking people automatically when caught (because gold farmers pay subs too!!) or region-locking their servers etc. etc.
I'm actually amazed Activision haven't pushed Blizzard into offering 'ready to roll max-level characters' - it will happen sooner-or-later, in fact I think the only thing which may be stopping them is the likely cost (given the gouging their other character services indulges in it's not going to be cheap!!)
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All I got from that is that you dont buy gold. You have no way of knowing if your e-friends buy gold, its not something people advertise.
As for it messing up the market. It does, and to quite a significant extent. Its simple economics - increase the money in circulation and you'll get inflation. It makes the prices higher and unaffordable to all but the hardcore, so then people buy gold to afford stuff. Its a dangerous cycle.
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"All I got from that is that you dont buy gold. You have no way of knowing if your e-friends buy gold, its not something people advertise. "
I speak to my friends. I consider them real friends, I've met most of them several times now, we have rl guild meets about once a year. If I can't trust what they say I can't trust anybody. if you doubt your own friends that's sad.
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- Perhaps explain it to the Federal Reserve and Bank of England
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Sony got it right a long time ago when they officially sold "in game" currency. Blizzard are slow to react to most things and have certainly lost their way with the game economy of wow, they should start with selling currency, as this would give another option to people who have limited wow time.
On the other hand, Account hacking is a terrible thing, but Blizz must have known this was possible when they set the game up, and saw fit to profit from the situation by selling authenticators. Blizz are not trying to ban gold sellers for ethical reasons.
It's purely business. It's something in their game they can't control, so they seek to ban it.
I choose to ignore the following fact because I enjoy the WOW experience for the most part. Here's the fact.
Blizz/Activision are primarily a money making machine, that's all they are interested in, everything else comes second, and they are not your friend.
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And I guess I'm even sadder than that because I know how to spell.
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Of course, you're gonna ignore that, because farmed gold is more comfortable than stolen gold
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As far as this goes, I feel like PayPal is allowing itself to be pushed around. First by the US government and now by major game companies. Yay?
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My battle.net account got "hacked" by a goldseller that enabled my 10 day trial for WoW. Well, I say hacked but here is the best part. My computer was not infected by any keyloggers, viruses or other such things that might have grabbed my login. I have never given out my user and pass. So, somehow they got the account access and as far as I know it wasn't from me.
That happened to a friend of mine too, he hadn't logged on in about three months and hadn't entered his Battle.net account and password in that time and suddenly his character was running about Stormpeaks, farming gold. I put an authenticator on my account that day.
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This is a really good step - read a BBC article that a while back claiming that a stolen WoW account is worth more than a stolen credit card number, if you can beleive it. If true then why would it not be the target of organised crime? Sure it's not like the mafia or violent crime but it can still hurt people financially.
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Blizzard Authenticator
Bind on pickup
Trinket
Item level ??
Use: Generate a number to authenticate your Battle.net account much like for an online bank.