Gran Turismo 5 delayed again

By Robert Purchese Published 13 October, 2010

In Europe "before Christmas", says Sony.

Update 2: The European PlayStation blog has tweeted that a new Gran Turismo 5 date will be confirmed "before the end of the month".

Update: Sony Europe has confirmed to Eurogamer that Gran Turismo 5 has been delayed in Europe, too.

Gran Turismo 5 will now be released here "before Christmas".

"We are sorry to say that Gran Turismo 5 will not be available on the previously announced release date of November 3rd, but the game will be released before Christmas," a statement read.

"We sincerely apologise to GT fans for the delay, however creator Kazunori Yamauchi and the team at Polyphony Digital want to make certain they are creating a racing experience of the highest quality.

"We are confident that this ambitious game will exceed expectations when it launches later this year. We'll have more information for you in the near future."

Original story: Sony has delayed Gran Turismo 5 again.

The racing game has been pushed back from a 2nd November US date. The US PlayStation blog assures us it will still arrive "this holiday season".

The Japanese release date has also been pushed back to "holiday 2010", according to a translation of the game's website.

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  • kinky_mong #1 2 years ago

    This news will annoy a lot of boring people.

  • sonicyoda #2 2 years ago

    YOU ARE FUCKING JOKING.

    Jesus H Christ Polyphony, someone needs to be sacked over this mess. Can't I just play it and you can patch it later? I'm getting pretty sick of waiting, you know?

    @Kinky_Mong

    Haha, like me!

    I'm actually expecting Polyphony to push this to April 1st 2011, then when it comes around they'll announce they haven't actually been developing GT5 at all and everything you've seen up until this point were a load of mock-ups. April Fools, fuckers.
    Edited by sonicyoda at 13/10/10 @ 15:52

  • Spekingur #3 2 years ago

    Lulz?
    What features were/are they adding now?
    Edited by Spekingur at 13/10/10 @ 15:49

  • Soton4084 #4 2 years ago

    What a joke!! I'm fed up of being messed around, just release it!

  • cianchristopher #5 2 years ago

    "The Next Gen Starts When We Say It Does"....

  • jtodroc #6 2 years ago

    If its delayed in the US it will surely be delayed here as well.

  • Blakester #7 2 years ago

    I'd be certain this means a push back to 2011 for the UK. It will be interesting to understand the nature of the delay. Hope it's not connected to flags again :-)

  • StolenGlory #8 2 years ago

    They better fucking not.

    Yeah neg me you cynically arrogant bottom feeding losers for being annoyed at one of my most anticipated games of the last three years being delayed.

    How fucking predictable. Yeah, bring on the negs peons all because I got annoyed (and rightly fucking so) at the game being delayed.

    Edited by StolenGlory at 13/10/10 @ 16:19

  • CaptainQuint #9 2 years ago

    Looks like my PS3 is gonna continue to lay dormant then.

    What a fucking joke.

  • IronGiant #10 2 years ago

    They're adding 4D support so you can play it in the next dimension.
    Edited by IronGiant at 13/10/10 @ 15:55

  • Moarachanox #11 2 years ago

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo jdhDHSFHBJHASDFJ$#@*($*(^$*(#*($*(#*@*#****** i heard some xbots saying gt5 doesnt even exist

  • Freek #12 2 years ago

    Hahahahaha. Oh man, Sony; "the publishers who cried GT5".

    "It's comming out this holliday"

    "Yeah, right...."

    "No, seriously......you guys...come on......it's really out....honest!"

    "Guys?....."

  • DaveLev #13 2 years ago

    HAHAHAHAHA

  • BigDaddy82 #14 2 years ago

    There is no way they're going to break even over this game, no matter how well it sells. 5 years in development and a lot of wasted money behind it. Saw the supposed track editor earlier too, looks like you just specify how many corners you want and it makes it for you, hardly an editor now is it. What a disaster.By the way, i own a PS3 as well as an Xbox, and i was looking forward to this game originally. Years ago at least.

  • covfan #15 2 years ago

    Strange considering some people are saying that their review copies are in the post atm.

  • IronGiant #16 2 years ago

    They're adding 4D support do you can play it in the next dimension.

  • EVERYGAMER #17 2 years ago

    Just rename it "Gran Turismo Forever" and be done with it!

  • Quint2020 #18 2 years ago

    Gran Turismo Forever?

    Damn! Beaten to the punchline by 30 seconds....
    Edited by Quint2020 at 13/10/10 @ 16:05

  • MrFlump #19 2 years ago

    At this rate Gearbox will be taking over development and releasing it...

  • GamesConnoisseur #20 2 years ago

    As in famed Duke Nukem Forever, the game that take forever and some to develop!

    Gt5 is only halfway to DNF?!

  • darkmorgado #21 2 years ago

    Lol. Maybe they have decided to add better rendering of the floor mats? The clunk sound of the driver's door isn't quite right? Perhaps they've decided that, in the interests of realism, they need to include a seatbelt minigame?

  • layleeloo #22 2 years ago

    hhahahahaah why is no one surprised. I will be buying it but i doubt it will exceed anyones expectations. After all this time and this many delays I would be expecting it to make me breakfast in the monrning or some other god like task as well as being a racing game!

  • dpb135 #23 2 years ago

    Delaystation scared of Black ops???

    This is getting bloody stupid, I just want to play the game & after all this time & delays it had better be the best racing game ever, with the best racing ai ever to .......... something GT has "never" had

    edit - fanboys not like delaystation comment ;)
    Edited by dpb135 at 13/10/10 @ 16:15

  • EVERYGAMER #24 2 years ago

    @Quint2020
    because its the closest thing PS3 has to a Duke Nukem Forever release fiasco. I was saying that for any game thats taking far longer than reasonable to be released just add forever onto the end of the title. Then everyone knows not to take any release date the publisher or developers give seriously.

  • foolsgold6970 #25 2 years ago

    I don't know why they can't just patch Move controls into it later...

  • darkmorgado #26 2 years ago

    Gt5 is only halfway to DNF?!

    "Only" halfway is still six f*cking years, and that's a long time in anyone's estimation, even the games industry.

  • Lotos8ter #27 2 years ago

    What a fucking liberty!

  • asphaltcowboy #28 2 years ago

    lol.

  • NotSoSlim #29 2 years ago

    Thing if DNF is getting released...god bet you it's due to COD just like LBP2

    Annoying!!!

  • Al_Swearengen #30 2 years ago

    Who the fcuk cares any more? This game is no where near as relevant as what they think it is. And no this is not an 'XBOT' sticking his knife in.

    I'd love to see how large their development cost have become and whether they can realistically recover that. Who is running the show there, Axl Rose? The fcuk?

  • ZuluHero #31 2 years ago

    @IronGiant

    Seems like you're posting in 4D atm ;)

  • superfurry #32 2 years ago

    Gran Turismo 5 featuring Duke Nukem - coming soon!

    Seriously though, doesn't the 'holidays' tag extend to the New Year in the startes?

  • darc #33 2 years ago

    Better late than broken IMO.

  • Bradach #34 2 years ago

    i'm not sure why but i'm actually a little embarrassed for them now

  • randompanda #35 2 years ago

    That's ok, i'll be busy playing the new Fallout anyway.

  • Moarachanox #36 2 years ago

    GATHER AROUND, WE ARE GOING TO POLYPHONY, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS GUY DOWN, I KNOW HIS PLAN, ITS AN INSIDE JOB, HE DONT WANT US TO PLAY THIS GAME, HE IS ALREADY PLAYING THIS GAME FOR 2 YEARS, THE TRAILERS ARE HIS OWN GAMEPLAY, GET HIM!!!!

  • peteb #37 2 years ago

    If I tried to push back deadlines here as much as that I'd be getting my P45.

  • BAM! #38 2 years ago

    You guys compring it to Duke Nukem do know that DNF was announced before Gran Turismo 1 (yes the original on PS1) right?

  • SteveHolt #39 2 years ago

    My favorite delay-related joke was: " at this rate, duke nukem forever will be released before GT5". It's even funnier now.

  • darkmorgado #40 2 years ago

    I can see this getting criticised now for feature bloat and being all-style-no-substance. Apparently the crash physics and damage modelling is hilariously poor.

  • andywilkie35 #41 2 years ago

    Wahey! Gran Turislol!

  • Bealsy #42 2 years ago

    GT5 doesnt actually exist, it's just a figment of our imagination.

  • darleysam #43 2 years ago

    Slow clap, everybody!

  • Perfecto #44 2 years ago

    it's quite amusing, Turn 10 have released two Forza games in the time this game has been in development, now they're working on a third.

  • altitude2k #45 2 years ago

    Is it safe for me to refer to them yet as Slowny?

  • Tallon4 #46 2 years ago

    Good God not again.... :(

    This news ruined my day

  • DigitalScars #47 2 years ago

    This doesn't overly bother me but i know it's annoying a lot of folk. Does seem like a bit of a joke though at this rate i'm expecting them to turn round and say that gt5 is no longer in developement, they're now moving onwards with gt6...lol.

  • man.the.king #48 2 years ago

    "GT5 has been delayed again"

    So what's new? :)

  • boggissimo #49 2 years ago

    Surprised? No.

    Disappointed? Yes.

  • UncleLou #50 2 years ago

    There is no way they're going to break even over this game, no matter how well it sells. 5 years in development and a lot of wasted money behind it.

    Er?Polyphony are a comparatively small team (100 people), and Prologue sold something like 5 million copies. If GT5 sells similarly (and chances are it will sell better - more PS3s now, more people interested in the full game, etc.), they will easily surpass in income what was necessary to pay a team and whatnot for 6 years.

  • andijames #51 2 years ago

    Seriously can't they just release it and patch whatever needs to be done afterwards? Seems like what every other developer does these days! Mind you i'm not going to complain if it comes bug-free it's a rarity these days! Am curious to why it was bumped though? Albeit for a few weeks? Production problems?

  • DavoTheDiv #52 2 years ago

    My God. Gran Turimso 6 will be out before this!

  • EVERYGAMER #53 2 years ago

    @BAM!
    Actually according to Wikipedia Duke Nukem forever was announced in 1997 and Gran Turismo was released in 1997 (In Japan) meaning Gran Turismo would have been announced say 2 years before allowing for an average developing schedule.

  • Mr_Brown #54 2 years ago

    If this gets delayed until 2011 then I'm not buying it. I'm sick of these delays, it's a joke thy we had to wait until now...

  • ElNino9 #55 2 years ago

    Is anyone bothered? This game looks shit, it'll fucking bomb like the shitty Gaystation 3. Top Gear test track my fucking ring piece!

    360 4 LIFE

  • DavoTheDiv #56 2 years ago

    "Is anyone bothered? This game looks shit, it'll fucking bomb like the shitty Gaystation 3. Top Gear test track my fucking ring piece!

    360 4 LIFE"

    Does your mother still bathe you?
    Edited by DavoTheDiv at 13/10/10 @ 16:15

  • SteveHolt #57 2 years ago

    @UncleLou: yeah, but remember that games that go through development-hell often turn out to be underwhelming - or at least perceived as such. This could hurt the sales (emphasis on could, GT is obviously a very strong IP).
    Edited by SteveHolt at 13/10/10 @ 16:16

  • man.the.king #58 2 years ago

    @Mr_Brown

    "If this gets delayed until 2011 then I'm not buying it. I'm sick of these delays, it's a joke thy we had to wait until now... "

    I don't think there's a GT5 version for the 360.

  • des #59 2 years ago

    boring racing game delayed...how exciting

    zzzzz

    Btw,no new date only "holiday season" tells a lot...brace yourself for another delay,boring people
    Edited by des at 13/10/10 @ 16:19

  • NotSoSlim #60 2 years ago

    Before Xmas..this screams of Sony not wanting to lose sales to COD!! Everyone here has seen new videos with weather and the rest, people are playing demos now all of the US.

    The game is done...so they ate either scared of COD or have royally screwed up printing imo

  • ElNino9 #61 2 years ago

    "Is anyone bothered? This game looks shit, it'll fucking bomb like the shitty Gaystation 3. Top Gear test track my fucking ring piece!

    360 4 LIFE"

    Does your mother still bathe you?

    God, I love the comments section. It's just too easy.

    trollol

  • Timbercottage #62 2 years ago

    Every delay simply raises the expectations for this game even more. Same problem with Duke Nukem, that game has to be monumentally good to reach the expectations that fans now have for it.

    Good luck.

  • excelexcel #63 2 years ago

    Thats a fiver I'm owed now! I knew it would be delayed again

  • IkariW #64 2 years ago

    Maybe its just me, but I really really doubt that 'Kazunori Yamauchi and the team at Polyphony Digital' are still actually doing work on this with just over two weeks until it was supposed to be released, surely its already long gone 'gold' by now?
    I think they'll have already made it 'The best its going to be' by now.

    Sounds more like a production problem to me...or they've found a major bug or two...
    Edited by IkariW at 13/10/10 @ 16:20

  • StevilKnevil #65 2 years ago

    I dont know whether to laugh or cry.

  • Spuzzell #66 2 years ago

    Gosh, I'm surprised.

    Gran Turismo Forever Episode 3, to summarize all the 'jokes' possible.

    Its either done or unfixable, just get it out.

  • DDevil #67 2 years ago

    Gran Turismo 5 Forever. Quick - give it to Gearbox to finish!

    I hear they've delayed it to give extra polish to the credits. That "thank you" list just wasn't up to scratch.

  • joe90 #68 2 years ago

    which xmas?

  • BOBBYLUPO #69 2 years ago

    Note they don't specify a year.



  • Tetsuo_Shima #70 2 years ago

    cry

  • welshben23 #71 2 years ago

    Before Christmas in Europe. Well Christmas Eve is on a Friday this year, maybe they'll release it then. That'll be before Christmas. LOL

  • Trigga_Tybalt #72 2 years ago

    Post deleted at 15:43:01 23-02-2012

  • Goodfella #73 2 years ago

    If this gets delayed until 2011 then I'm not buying it.

    Oh but you will, lol.

  • EVERYGAMER #74 2 years ago

    @Spuzzell
    Gran Shenmue Forever Episode 3. Now its done!
    Edited by EVERYGAMER at 13/10/10 @ 16:26

  • BigDaddy82 #75 2 years ago

    "Er?Polyphony are a comparatively small team (100 people), and Prologue sold something like 5 million copies. If GT5 sells similarly (and chances are it will sell better - more PS3s now, more people interested in the full game, etc.), they will easily surpass in income what was necessary to pay a team and whatnot for 6 years. "

    No, i don't think they will, factor in the cost of advertising, the cost of delaying it for so many years (paying staff for extra production time) and also the cost of the licenses (the WRC license for example) and GT5 will have been a hella expensive game to make, they won't break even iMO. Even Forza didn't i don't think, at least it wouldn't have made much of a profit.
    Edited by BigDaddy82 at 13/10/10 @ 16:25

  • Gambit1977 #76 2 years ago

    It's only a car game anyway.

  • bodypopper #77 2 years ago

    At this rate we'll all be in flying cars and GT5 will be be, like, soooo old, dude.

  • TonyHarrison #78 2 years ago

    It was unveiled at E3 2006... They're being put to shame by other Sony developers (as well as Nintendo and Microsoft devs) who have released several games in that time frame. For example we've had five games from Insomniac and the two Uncharted games from Naughty Dog since then.

    Meanwhile Polyphony keep releasing screenshots with promises that it's coming soon... Sooner or later, you just have to release what you've got, the search for total perfection is futile.

  • NotSoSlim #79 2 years ago

    New date within 2 weeks then...didn't Sony know when COD was being released? Sony grow a pair ffs

  • beastmaster #80 2 years ago

    I am quite stunned by this. Only because I didn't think they'd have the gaul to delay it again.

  • darkmorgado #81 2 years ago

    I hear they've delayed it to give extra polish to the credits.

    It wouldn't bloody surprise me. The whole thing is approaching OCD levels of pedantry now.

  • Ignatius_Cheese #82 2 years ago

    \o/

  • WiseGuy #83 2 years ago

    After all these delays 'goodwill' for the game is seriously low. What sort of critical acclaim/commercial sucess will be required to redeem it???

    Personally im still looking forward to it, and will buy it day 1 but I can just imagine the comments here, and on other boards, if this 'only' gets a 9 or even (whisper it) an 8!
    Edited by WiseGuy at 13/10/10 @ 16:32

  • tancredo #84 2 years ago

    I really believe GT5 has not been delayed. It just happens they have had to rewrite the whole game 3 times because someone at Polyphony is porn adicted, and keeps getting a virus in their computers which deletes the game files and replaces them with Tranny sex.

  • Raznilof #85 2 years ago

    Some raise cost versus earned money....

    If indeed (as stated) 100 people work at polyphony, they will likely earn somewhere between 4000/5000 euro's per employee per month (that includes taxes, utility, rent etc.). It's a rough guestimate.

    The maths:

    4000x100 = 400.000 burn per month
    400.000x12 months= 4.8 million burn per year
    4.8 x 6 years = 28.8 million development cost

    Lets add an additional 5 million for marketing, promotion and round it off at 35 million euro's.

    Lets guess some more and say they will earn 15 euro's per sold copy of the game.

    If I did all the maths correctly, that amounts to 2.333 million copies, which is well below the 4 million mentioned earlier in this replies thread, which prologue sold.

    Even if the people cost is twice what I used, it still makes a lot of sense for Sony and Polyphony to postpone till perfection. Again, only if any of the numbers used hold any truth. I was indeed lazy and didn't bother to look up the yearly research on average salaries for game developer jobs (I remember these numbers from a few years back). So take with a grain of salt as most of it is guessing.

    But, even if they postpone another year at the above burn rates it makes sense, as it is intended to keep the franchise and the platform in the pole position.

    And as much as I enjoyed (and loved) Forza, Gran Tourismo is still something special.

    They'll get there in the end.
    Edited by Raznilof at 13/10/10 @ 17:05

  • Siberian_Khatru #86 2 years ago

    Well daym. Guess I'll have to wipe another layer of dust off my PS3 until this fucking thing arrives.

  • sfp_noodle #87 2 years ago

    I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but could it be that Sony wants time to make sure its pirate proof? OPM have a review copy since last month and the review is expected to be published in 2 weeks time. It could be a minor delay, by a couple of weeks or something. Here's hoping anyway. If its pushed beyond 2010 then KY should seriously consider resigning for taking the fucking piss

  • TopKatt #88 2 years ago

    Well this is on my christmas list so as long as it's out before then and I can still play it on christmas morning I don't mind.


    I'm a selfish bastard like that.

  • darkmorgado #89 2 years ago

    @Raznilof

    You failed to take into account Licensing costs, software costs, dev kit fees, disc production costs, Q&A/playtesting costs, outsourced production, translation...

    The cost of making a game is not as simple as staff salary and a bit of marketing.

  • cw- #90 2 years ago

    Gran Tourismo .... Forever?



    [Edit: I should read the comments BEFORE posting, I see several people have made this joke already :( ]
    Edited by cw- at 13/10/10 @ 16:46

  • Mkwone #91 2 years ago

    It's got to be something small, either a piracy issue or they don't want stock shortages, or something to do with server/online issues. Hopefull it's a quick fix and a very small delay. I've expected GT5 delays for a long time but to delay it 3 weeks before supposed launch is a pisstake, especially when they then say a new date will be given at the end of the month. That's too long considering the game is supposed to sell 2 days later.

  • beastmaster #92 2 years ago

    Could it be that it's avoiding the monster that is Kinect?

    Edit: Probably not
    Edited by beastmaster at 13/10/10 @ 16:44

  • jefranklin18 #93 2 years ago

    The rumour on GTPlanet is that the slippage is due to localisation (presumably languages), so if that is the case it is frustating but unavoidable. Personally, I think they are having to get rid of bloody flags, and they have to review 200 swatches to decide which shade of puce matches the burnt orange of the buildings in Sienna.

  • admj83 #94 2 years ago

    OHH GOD!!

  • geeza2020 #95 2 years ago

    I like to think that the delay is due to Kazunori Yamauchi losing his marbles and the team at PD are desperately trying to get him to finish the game. But he's locked himself in his Toyota Supra (or whatever car he's got) and is just listening to Gary Newman's "Car's" and is refusing to come out.

    Probably something boring like bugs or something though.

  • homerramone #96 2 years ago

    it's quite amusing, Turn 10 have released two Forza games in the time this game has been in development, now they're working on a third.
    Three. All of them have been released since the last GT.

    Still it really is gonna be great. Yamauchi said.

  • M_of_the_sys #97 2 years ago

    Oh dear.

  • admj83 #98 2 years ago

    "before christmas" this means march 2011

  • RevanNL #99 2 years ago

    I suggest that they release it on the same day as Duke Nukem Forever

  • chubster2010 #100 2 years ago

    I know people are really looking forward to this, and I completely understand how disappointing this news is....

    But...

    ...it is getting quite hilarious now isn't it? What the fuck are they adding now? Ice cream vans? Are they not aware of the power of patches and DLC?

  • captain_Carl #101 2 years ago

    sony am fail

  • bluetoothion #102 2 years ago

    I think there must be another very serious reason for this.... imagine after so long to release something with a major flaw... Gt6 would not be released because Yamauchi would perform harakiri ( or whatever its spelled )

    i doubt its about coinciding with another either i thing there is lot of people that pre ordered, pre calculated the cost without knowing the actual release date ( who does really ) ( could sue PD for lost of interest rates had they put money in the bank for 5 years )
    the anticipatioin lvl is way up there and they are two different types of game so its not every gamer they are targeting.

    plus... sony's own child wouldn't be delayed over a third party;s release

  • Al_Swearengen #103 2 years ago

    So the GT5 creator's initials are KY. Interesting...

  • chubster2010 #104 2 years ago

    I know people are really looking forward to this, and I completely understand how disappointing this news is....

    But...

    ...it is getting quite hilarious now isn't it? What the fuck are they adding now? Ice cream vans? Are they not aware of the power of patches and DLC?

  • beastmaster #105 2 years ago

    First*, they announce it's in 3D. Then they announce only 'premium' cars will get proper interiors. Now, they announce another delay.

    I really hope the end product doesn't turn into the videogame equivalent of The Phantom Menace.

    * order may be wrong due to my brain going mad cow

  • Raznilof #106 2 years ago

    @darkmorgado, I did think of that and it is included in the salary (that's why it is so high).

    But you are right of course and it wasn't intended as an accurate assessment. All I wanted to show was that the assumed vast difference between cost and what the game will earn, is likely to be not as spectacular, even if you where to double my used numbers.

    edit: re-wrote for clarity. typos
    Edited by Raznilof at 13/10/10 @ 17:03

  • TopKatt #107 2 years ago

    I was planning another comment now but I'm afraid I've had to delay it due to unforeseen circumstances. But don't worry I will be commenting as soon as my comment reaches the required standard.

  • linea #108 2 years ago

    the Rolls Royce Phantom Menace

    featuring Car Car Binks



    sorry

  • Moz #109 2 years ago

    You've got to be freaking kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • EVERYGAMER #110 2 years ago

    @Topkatt
    Your just delaying your comment for fear of everyone awaiting this comment. Thus avoiding loss of posi's over the holiday period.
    Edited by EVERYGAMER at 13/10/10 @ 17:08

  • themorganator #111 2 years ago

    I played it at the Eurogamer Expo (in normal and 3D) and I was massively underwhelmed. I wonder if they're reacting to general negativity following the increased exposure? I'm not trying to create a fanboy riot but it really didn't seem to warrant 3 years in development - let alone the current figure. Utter madness.

  • peteb #112 2 years ago

    @linea

    Use the Fords, Luke!

  • RedPanda #113 2 years ago

    Post deleted at 14:31:59 28-01-2012

  • Raznilof #114 2 years ago

    @darkmorgado (2), one thing I completely disregarded in the numbers is outsourcing, which is an industry given these days.

    I remember a story that more than 1500 people worked on GTA IV. Not even a third of those where a Rockstar employee. So indeed, the numbers could be astronomically off. Which makes you even more right : )

  • captain_Carl #115 2 years ago

    Seriously what the fuck? Are they just all sat wanking all day or something? It's the only fucking explanation.

  • MasterNameless #116 2 years ago

    @Raznilof

    Nice try working out the dev costs, but there was a "Top 10 most expensive games" article a little while back, estimating the production costs for GT5 at $80 million. Considering the extra delays since then I imagine it'll be a little more than that by now too.

    [link url=http://www.digitalbattle.com/2010/02/20/top-10-most-expensive-video-games-budgets-ever/
    ]http://www.digitalbattle.com/2010/02/20/...[/link]

    Have they really earned that back with the 4.65 million(highest estimate I could find) copies of GT: Prologue already? I'm sure they've earned a good portion back from it, and they will probably get the rest back when they finally release GT:5.

  • NewbieZilla #117 2 years ago

    If you didn't see this coming, you are a moron.

  • MasterNameless #118 2 years ago

    Interestingly, GTAIV's dev costs with 1500 staff was only $100 million, compared to GT5's 80$ million with 100 staff...

  • Beano #119 2 years ago

    PolyPHONY

  • NewbieZilla #120 2 years ago

    Seriously. The attitude to take with someone reknowned for delays is to believe it when you see it on the store shelves. Gullible morons, I say, again.

  • adofessex #121 2 years ago

    Maybe they are busy working on the 360 port? :p

  • JohnnySixShooter #122 2 years ago

    This is outrageous!

  • darkmorgado #123 2 years ago

    Interestingly, GTAIV's dev costs with 1500 staff was only $100 million, compared to GT5's 80$ million with 100 staff...

    Licensing fees, creating a custom game engine just for one game (the GTA4 engine has been used in other games), endless rendering and re-rendering due to obsessive perfectionism, lots of flights out to real locations to ensure track accuracy, car accuracy, meetings with car manufacturers, the costs associated with testing and re-testing the driving model....

    As a general rule, the more realistic you are striving to be, the more expensive the process.

  • TopKatt #124 2 years ago

    Why is it always the fanboys who are the first to start calling people fanboys in these threads?

  • Invisible_Cow #125 2 years ago

    From what I've seen, this is seriously not going to be worth the wait.

    For everyone wondering what they've been doing with the money: as much as I'd like to think they spent it on high-class prostitutes, the sad fact is that they probably just have a high burn rate and a load of incompetent/directionless managers. Just like Duke Nukem Forever, in fact.

  • waggy79 #126 2 years ago

    What the hell can they be doing to it now? More interested in Hot Pursuit now anyway.

  • Goodfella #127 2 years ago

    @fable3

    Meanwhile, PS3 owners have been Heavy Raining, God of War III'ing and soon to be Gran Turismo-ing.

    Your argument (if you can call it that) fails.

  • Huddy #128 2 years ago

    Oh dear.

    This game better live up to it's billing or the world's going to go nuclear.

  • telboy007 #129 2 years ago

    @MattDamon I think you've sussed it, maybe they're including flying cars?!?

  • TheTrueSpin #130 2 years ago

    Oh...my....god....

  • DjFlex52 #131 2 years ago

    @Goodfella

    All year we've been hearing about how the PS3's exclusives will outshine the 360's exclusives. Now that Socom 4, LBP2, DC Universe, GT5 & FFXIV are all delayed this year, you have to resort to two 1st Q PS3 games to counter...tsk tsk.

    Bayonetta (cause PS3 Bayonetta sucks), ME2, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Crackdown 2, Limbo, Castlevania HoD, Monday Night Combat, Dead Rising: Case Zero, Halo Reach, Fable 3 all say "hi Goodfella" ;)

  • TrevSkyline #132 2 years ago

    It's like anything you wait YEARS for.

    First, the anticipation of the wait...then its here...wow...this is...good....then a month, two months go by - was it worth the long delay? Will we be all thinking, it was something "special"?

    I honestly don't think it will be worth the years of waiting, I have to admit I am excited about GT5 but unless it's mind blowingly amazing, it really won't be worth it.

    I fear a mass PR stunt on Sony's behalf.

  • man.the.king #133 2 years ago

    It's really telling when the majority of posters in a thread about a PS3 exclusive are 360 fanboys.

  • OldK1ngCole #134 2 years ago

    Official Statement From Sony :

    We've decided to postpone the release of Gran Turismo 5 as it didn't make it to Number 1 in the Eurogamer Expo Top 10. Until this is corrected and Gran Turismo 5 is crowned Number 1 we won't issue a new release date.

    /Not an actual official Sony statement.


    To be honest, I was alittle unimpressed by GT5 at the Expo. I thought the gameplay was bland and the 3D implementation was not the best at the show (I thought Killzone 3 and Motorstorm were much better).
    Edited by OldK1ngCole at 13/10/10 @ 18:29

  • Goodfella #135 2 years ago

    @DjFlex52

    You're no better, listing exclusives to somehow feel better about your console is really quite sad and pointless.

    Me, I've got both so I don't need to. My 'counter', as you put it was to merely state that the PS3 did have some fantastic exclusives this year but fable3 seemed to think otherwise.
    Edited by Goodfella at 13/10/10 @ 18:36

  • DrStrangelove #136 2 years ago

    I've had it. Sony are the scabbiest rip-off bastards in the world. I wish they all die in a horrible accident.

    edit: no, of course I don't. I wish they survive a horrible accident before dying after years of pain and misery in the hospital.
    Edited by DrStrangelove at 13/10/10 @ 18:45

  • pabzuk #137 2 years ago

    Good cos there are so many games coming out it was on my list, save a few dollars with a later release, 200 - 40 mmm

  • ruslan74 #138 2 years ago

    Polyfunny, very Polyfunny.

  • DoctorFouad #139 2 years ago

    wow

  • vizzini #140 2 years ago

    The postponement is probably a result of the PsJailbreak hack.

    Now that the PS3 firmware has plugged the hole, they probably want to monitor the situation for 6 months to ensure it remains secure and avoid the game suffering from piracy.

    To be fair, it is not like they haven't released parts of GT games, or GT on PSP in the 5years of development. And by all accounts isn't F1 already doing a storming trade on Ps3 at the moment in that genre?

    I'm sure Codies are grateful of a bit more breathing space to maximize sales of their game.

  • alcides #141 2 years ago

    And the biggest facepalm award goes to... SONY for tripping themselves right before the Xmas finish line.

    Frankly they could have had a stellar lineup with LBP2 and stuff... This is getting FUCKING WORRYING.

    WHO THE FUCK do they have to SACK for things to work out as they should?

  • monkfishjoe #142 2 years ago

    This is a real shame for people looking forward to this game. It seems ominous that they haven't released a new date yet...

    I wonder how much polishing the game requires. There is this article from 2009 that said the game is 'feature complete' but just needs a polish:

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/gt...

  • Emmit_Assassin #143 2 years ago

    "In Europe "before christmas", says Sony.

    Yeah, which christmas is that then? 2014?

    By the way, it felt extremely weird typing that date in.....even though its only a few years off, its like....the future, man. So spun out right now...and I aint even drinking.

  • Kengro #144 2 years ago

    Yeah right, Q1 2011 i guess

  • mcreddie #145 2 years ago

    LOLZOR I bet they'll even add mandatory 200mb patches every fucking month. SUCH retards.

    Edited by mcreddie at 13/10/10 @ 19:44

  • Scimarad #146 2 years ago

    Ah, thank fuck for that - I was starting to get worried I was going to have to buy it before too much longer...

  • DoctorFraud #147 2 years ago

    Always 'next year' for Sony. When is that year due? Never, thats when.

  • coolbritannia #148 2 years ago

    I wonder if Forza Kinect will get released before this?

  • Machiavellian #149 2 years ago

    "Rational Side" Evidently if Sony decided to delay the game, then there is something serious enough that patching it would not be the best route. Have the developer take the rap or hit but it's probably something game breaking they found which mars the quality of the product enough to make taking a public slap in the face worth it.

    Anyway if the game is going to be the definitive car game, then waiting a few months really not going to make a difference.

    "Fanboy Side" Man, you think with the time spent on this game that such snafus would be found ahead of time. Expectations going to be rampant and little nitpicks will be escalated into huge issues where they wouldn't even dent the surface of another game.
    Edited by Machiavellian at 13/10/10 @ 20:37

  • Lucodeath #150 2 years ago

    I spoke to a lead programmer working on GT5 Mitsubishi Dave down the pub about the delays, His reply was
    "the ps3 is out already, id better tell the lads".

  • DjFlex52 #151 2 years ago

    You're no better, listing exclusives to somehow feel better about your console is really quite sad and pointless.

    Me, I've got both so I don't need to. My 'counter', as you put it was to merely state that the PS3 did have some fantastic exclusives this year but fable3 seemed to think otherwise.

    @Goodfella

    Then I guess you're really quite sad and pointless too since you listed the PS3 exclusives first :D
    So you have both consoles but you did need to, I see. You needed to counter fable3's fanboy rant. Oh please...tell me why?

    We all know that you've picked your side regardless of you owning both consoles since I've never seen you criticize the PS3 game listers all year. I'd feel "better" if I was reaping some capital from MS's exclusives, though ;)

    I play with all the consoles so your defensive argument is of no consequence to me.

  • pac666 #152 2 years ago

    This really is getting a bit nuts.

  • darren1976 #153 2 years ago

    With the amount of time in development if GT5 is not by far the greatest racing game ever then it will be very disappointing! I am now expecting the the best physics, best damage modelling, excellant AI, best graphics, the LOT!

    Have just bought Fanatec PWTS so I use it on 360, PS3 and PC, all I need now is GT5 to come out! FFS, how many years has it been now? Forza 3 is a great game, F1 is a great game (if the patch works), all the numerous PC sims are great. But fuck me GT5 should be better than all of them purely on investment and development time!

    Still be buying it cos my wheel and club sport pedals have cost a shed load (worth every penny!) but seriously I really am expecting to be blown away!
    Edited by darren1976 at 13/10/10 @ 21:21

  • metatron197924 #154 2 years ago

    when developers had the success in their pockets before the release of the game, shit happens.

  • MRFlakyFeet #155 2 years ago

    Jesus Wept!!!

    Thats it!!! I'm downloading Ferrari Race thingi-mi-bob... There's 11 quid down the drain!

    GT5 better be in my hands by Christmas hols or I'll write another post complaining vigorously.

    Jim

  • coolbritannia #156 2 years ago

    Goodfella is a PS3 fanboy in denial, he's a fully paid up member of the SDF. Me, I only own a 360 but I only play Reach anyway so couldn't care less.

  • busboy33 #157 2 years ago

    re: releasing before christmas.

    And EG was told this by the same people that told us the last 472 release dates/windows/random guesses?

    Did they pinky swear this time? It doesn't count unless they pinky swear.

  • TopKatt #158 2 years ago

    I'm not gonna do a list, but 2010 has been a great year for the PS3 and 2011 looks set to be another good one as well. There's not as much on the horizon for the 360 but GOW 3 will be a day one purchase for me.

  • JBlokeUK #159 2 years ago

    I swore I heard a major development like Polyphony person say about 2 months ago that GT5 will definitely, definitely, definitely be released on November 4th.

    And I will definitely, definitely, definitely win the lottery this week.

    At this rate my first child will get to play this before me, and my wife isn't even pregnant!

  • Vedfolner #160 2 years ago

    What ever the explanation is for this particular delay, there is no denying the fact that the people of PD are a bunch of amateurs.
    I don't care how great their games are: Constant delays means you're not doing your job right.

  • gjgjg #161 2 years ago

    Rodney you dipstick

  • TaniumZX #162 2 years ago

    [link url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandersnatch_%28video_game%29
    ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandersnatc...[/link]

    History repeating itself

  • sfp_noodle #163 2 years ago

    I have a strong feeling that Sony will either sack KY and disguise it like they did with Ken Kutaragi or KY will resign anyway. There's a limit to perfectionism too. I really cannot see any publisher supporting a dev this much after constant delays. Wasn't it Take 2 that sued the previous devs of Duke Nukem Forever for not meeting deadlines? I mean, I know PD are owned by Sony, but I haven't seen Sony support any of their studios as much as they have PD. As much as GT5 will be awesome (despite what people say), I really think it would be a good idea for KY to leave the series.

    I mean, if you watch his interviews from last year and the current year his health seems to have deterioated. Physically, he's much thinner and looks sleep starved. His dedication as admirable but he has to realise that if he wants to have the most up to date racing simulation possible you have to make sacrifices. There are a number of things KY could have left out with GT5 and the fans would be happy to have them patched in or in a later version. He could add new features for free if he's so loyal just like Criterion did with Burnout Paradise. The fans loved them for it. Surely stuff like 3D could be patched in. Surely?

    I will still be buying GT5 whenever its out, mainly because I've exausted Forza. If it comes out shortly after NFS though, then it may have to wait. I've only time for one racing game in 2010.

  • Lucodeath #164 2 years ago

    JBlokeUK
    You must have listened in on Mitsubishi Dave at the pub

  • chasejamie #165 2 years ago

    It's delayed until 2015 so that they can fit in the hover conversions to all the cars.

  • sfp_noodle #166 2 years ago

    @Marshall

    As a Muslim living in Leicester and having to put up with the fascist EDL attacking the city I live in, I take offence to that comment. People like you will never command any sort it respect.

    /ignored and reported

  • denyason #167 2 years ago

    i am so angry! delay! they been doing this for the past 3 years. they wait till its nearly out then give you the bad news. i have been waiting along time.
    what now? is it going to be move compatible? i just want it out.
    i guarantee there will be another delay!

  • Loghorn #168 2 years ago

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    LMAO. It's the next Duke Nukem Forever, along with Final Fantasy Versus XIII (which that has been in development since 2003; GT5 has been in development since 2004). Next, we'll be hearing about this game being delayed to Spring 2011, or even Winter 2011. :p

    Plus it's also very embarrassing when you got Microsoft & Turn 10 releasing 3 Forza games (during 2005-2009) around the same timeframe in which it's taking Polyphony Digital & Sony just to make one GT game (2004-2010). All in a effort for "perfection" with better graphics & such. Haven't Sony learned that it's not the graphics that makes the game, but the gameplay? There's a reason why people have been playing & putting loads of hours into games like Halo on the 360. Because games like that are fun, & are not all about the graphics. Graphics can be the second greatest thing in a game, but the first thing that should always comes first is the gameplay.

    Oh, AND there's news about another Forza game that may be coming out next year. Just very laughable at best.
    Edited by Loghorn at 14/10/10 @ 06:58

  • GamerG #169 2 years ago

    Guess it keeps Polyphony in work for a few more weeks, if Sony has any business sense whatsoever they'll shut them down the day after release, they are beyond a joke.

    The funny thing is the game still wont be as good as Forza!

  • VP1398 #170 2 years ago

    Damn it. It's been a very long delay to play Gran Turismo 5. At least I will be busy playing F1 2010 and Asassin's Creed Brotherhood.

  • VP1398 #171 2 years ago

    @GamerG. On the contrary, GT5 will blow Forza hands down.

  • Toadie48 #172 2 years ago

    Wow another delay :o.

    Seriously though if your looking forward to playing Gran Turismo 5 don't be dissopointed with this latest delay because Shigeru Miyamoto said 'A delayed game is eventually a good game, a bad game is forever'. And this game has the possibility of being a triple A quality racing game :).